Processed: Re: Bug#752221: [axiom] Some sources are not included in your package
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Bug#752221: [axiom] Some sources are not included in your package
severity 752221 important thanks Greetings! And thank you again for all your work on Debian and free software! Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Control: reopen -1 Camm Maguire c...@maguirefamily.org writes: The file alleged to be problematic: src/axiom-website/axiomgraph/js/arbor.js I respectfully disagree according to source it is minified from at least: * etc.js * kernel.js * atoms.js * system.js * physics.js Greetings! Respectfully, comments /* etc.js */ are proof of no such thing. Umm, the very comments that says which files it is generated from is proof that it is not a generated file? Indeed, how do we know from the comments that the alleged output has not been edited, making it the 'original source'? I agree that the comments and the formatting are suggestive. I think from your use of the word 'might' below that we are in agreement here. Also please take a look at [1]. That might be the actual source for the line with /* kernel.js */ (minus version and so on). [1] https://github.com/samizdatco/arbor/blob/master/src/kernel.js This makes things clearer -- thanks! In general, to establish this case, I think one needs either 1) the original sources together with the program that produces the file in question, or 2) a claim by the original author that these files are simply machine output from other files. I've done some spot checking, and the correspondence appears close, but not exact. In any case, I'm including the mentioned sources in the next axiom upload, as they are published under the free MIT license in any case. Note that the source version has whitespace, informative variable names and comments. These are all stripped by the minimization compiler (which translates Javascript into Javascript). While I certainly share the goal of having source that is easily readable by a human, I do wonder at the original claim that including source in 'minimized' format somehow violates copy-left. Where do we get this idea? I can assure you that lines of code I've contributed, including assembler, look far more forbidding and less readable than this javascript. If we do not use the standard of 'compiling into the executable' as the standard, whose human beauty standards are we going to use? What about C beautifiers, or even emacs auto-indent? Take care, Ansgar -- Camm Maguirec...@maguirefamily.org == The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens. -- Baha'u'llah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#752221: [axiom] Some sources are not included in your package
Control: reopen -1 Camm Maguire c...@maguirefamily.org writes: The file alleged to be problematic: src/axiom-website/axiomgraph/js/arbor.js I respectfully disagree according to source it is minified from at least: * etc.js * kernel.js * atoms.js * system.js * physics.js Greetings! Respectfully, comments /* etc.js */ are proof of no such thing. Umm, the very comments that says which files it is generated from is proof that it is not a generated file? Also please take a look at [1]. That might be the actual source for the line with /* kernel.js */ (minus version and so on). [1] https://github.com/samizdatco/arbor/blob/master/src/kernel.js Note that the source version has whitespace, informative variable names and comments. These are all stripped by the minimization compiler (which translates Javascript into Javascript). Ansgar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Bug#752221: [axiom] Some sources are not included in your package
Package: axiom Version: 20120501-14 user: debian...@lists.debian.org usertags: source-is-missing severity: serious X-Debbugs-CC: ftpmas...@debian.org Hi, Your package seems to include some files that lack sources in prefered forms of modification: src/axiom-website/axiomgraph/js/arbor.js According to Debian Free Software Guidelines [1] (DFSG) #2: The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form.. This could also constitute a license violation for some copyleft licenses such as the GNU GPL. In order to solve this problem, you could: 1. repack the origin tarball adding the missing source to it. 2 add the source files to debian/missing-sources directory Both way satisfies the requirement that we ship the source. Second option might be preferable due to the following reasons [2]: - Upstream can do it too and you could even supply a patch to them, thus full filling our social contract [3], see particularly ยง2. - If source and non-source are in different locations, ftpmasters may miss the source and (needlessly) reject the package. - The source isn't duplicated in every .diff.gz/.debian.tar.* (though this only really matters for larger sources). You could also ask debian...@lists.debian.org or #debian-qa for more guidance. [1] https://www.debian.org/social_contract.en.html#guidelines [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=736873#8 [3] https://www.debian.org/social_contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
