Bug#934242: crystalhd: unusable without (available and properly working) firmware
affects 934242 src:kylin-video user release.debian@packages.debian.org usertag 934242 bullseye-will-remove Hi, On 21-12-2020 23:32, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Yes, there are still packages depending on it: Someone needs to work > actively with those still believing the library is more than snakeoil - > because our mechanisms auto-pressuring packages to to stay alert and in > line or else get kicked from testing works only on edge packages - > packages "well connected" in Debian are not affected. > > (while the allegory is funny, I really don't mean to imply that the > mechanisms were _intented_ to treat packages unequally, only that in > effect it does) So, let's inform the kylin-video team that we're about to remove crystalhd from bullseye. @kylin-video team, please drop your Build-Depends on libcrystalhd-dev and your Depends on libcrystalhd3. If this doesn't happen in a week or two, kylin-video will be removed from bullseye too. Paul OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#934242: crystalhd: unusable without (available and properly working) firmware
Hi Paul, Quoting Paul Gevers (2020-12-21 22:49:18) > [Release Team member watching] Nice :-) > On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 17:37:35 +0200 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Source: crystalhd > > Version: 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-1 > > Severity: grave > > Justification: renders package unusable > > > > It seems that libcrystalhd3 is only really useful together with > > firmware-crystalhd, which was never really usable in Debian, leading > > to that package being dropped: https://bugs.debian.org/865978 > > > > If someone wants to revive CrystalHD in Debian, it seems a good > > place to start is > > https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Broadcom_Crystal_HD#Feb._2014_Update > > Can you elaborate a bit? The package has a huge popcon (hence it's not > autoremoved). You're saying that all those people had it installed in > vain? Or is that due to a (past) library dependency and didn't it > actually add anything? Both: a) It never really worked (see bug#865978), and b) libavcodec* linked with it in Buster, and c) I guess because apt-mark is not really used (few use aptitude which invented the concept, and even debian-installer fails to provide an ideal baseline - see bug#742977) most previously affected users continue to have it installed after ffmpeg 7:4.1.4-1 stopped linking with it (see bug#917292). > elbrus@coccia:~$ dak rm --no-action -R --suite testing crystalhd > Will remove the following packages from testing: > > crystalhd | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | source > gstreamer1.0-crystalhd | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386 > libcrystalhd-dev | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386 > libcrystalhd3 | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386 > > Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers > > > --- Reason --- > > -- > > Checking reverse dependencies... > # Broken Depends: > kylin-video: kylin-video [amd64 i386] > > # Broken Build-Depends: > kylin-video: libcrystalhd-dev > > Dependency problem found. Yes, there are still packages depending on it: Someone needs to work actively with those still believing the library is more than snakeoil - because our mechanisms auto-pressuring packages to to stay alert and in line or else get kicked from testing works only on edge packages - packages "well connected" in Debian are not affected. (while the allegory is funny, I really don't mean to imply that the mechanisms were _intented_ to treat packages unequally, only that in effect it does) - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
Bug#934242: crystalhd: unusable without (available and properly working) firmware
Hi Jonas, [Release Team member watching] On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 17:37:35 +0200 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Source: crystalhd > Version: 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-1 > Severity: grave > Justification: renders package unusable > > It seems that libcrystalhd3 is only really useful together with > firmware-crystalhd, which was never really usable in Debian, leading to > that package being dropped: https://bugs.debian.org/865978 > > If someone wants to revive CrystalHD in Debian, it seems a good place to > start is https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Broadcom_Crystal_HD#Feb._2014_Update Can you elaborate a bit? The package has a huge popcon (hence it's not autoremoved). You're saying that all those people had it installed in vain? Or is that due to a (past) library dependency and didn't it actually add anything? elbrus@coccia:~$ dak rm --no-action -R --suite testing crystalhd Will remove the following packages from testing: crystalhd | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | source gstreamer1.0-crystalhd | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386 libcrystalhd-dev | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386 libcrystalhd3 | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386 Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers --- Reason --- -- Checking reverse dependencies... # Broken Depends: kylin-video: kylin-video [amd64 i386] # Broken Build-Depends: kylin-video: libcrystalhd-dev Dependency problem found. Paul OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#934242: crystalhd: unusable without (available and properly working) firmware
Source: crystalhd Version: 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-1 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 It seems that libcrystalhd3 is only really useful together with firmware-crystalhd, which was never really usable in Debian, leading to that package being dropped: https://bugs.debian.org/865978 If someone wants to revive CrystalHD in Debian, it seems a good place to start is https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Broadcom_Crystal_HD#Feb._2014_Update - Jonas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEn+Ppw2aRpp/1PMaELHwxRsGgASEFAl1MQbwACgkQLHwxRsGg ASEoVRAAkB3aduIq0KZJ88R68h8cQ27Fa86ekxCdTceenMidmoLts/iLDkkBCc0z ocvrLY0iJDfqYmfA7gWCJ10OlgwDonm1Y2JmgRlPkL5XjLNERm7MzE6awHaa8DeM lGe0WlG8bFDrUVGZYdz5/kOfEV0vuZsZyTcrmnUcEXeUFWwcU/H73XjzlEZvlOIf pIxdvVpbQB+hZiQiNoTBIcd4jBhiw7Y95DenzBNWEkqhfD6+p3Q/d6ypRpLXNmAV 3vx1slhgvKIUEfW/2Xed6oTJdwSMxwtWenB+bk+pTnw1EHZ98Nn6ECCwzuiBxpYp CwmB48dRMcVKPK3VFO0Tg+YMkf1J7l/TVONOl9RZdu54Bo0Mzt3ZHbedW3gpNdZE bx6Tty2OnnZ7mENEXRKi9ZamrP3Wpx6+ECIZZ9BtJsbYvoDQFrMQfGcHn1d0Ydfk 5eNTt0t3WnjrgvtGyXtln95celT3rE3LhgFevs0XW7iFCpmtYnztCve2q9676K0R xZnPb5sxldxehB2gh7leDkBXXoWPRMdIKFS7Q7RSh3JYpX4wBO9+a4OM/qJAyZg4 bWWiCTL1spnewlnZYmll6QaACHDnLQHKU9ffZlRU3TrEz0sFuygeVVmPW5FupT/w sejq90AdGATqDfPffiz4G/P4VwhyHfiSb2/1g/C6sMoIWvti4us= =kb8u -END PGP SIGNATURE-
