Re: [PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:39:52AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 00:03, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Monday 05 March 2007 23:40, Robert Millan wrote:
> > > I think this is very necessary given how much confusion has been
> > > introduced by amd64 and the intel-mac transition.  Users could:
> > >
> > >   1- Confuse ia64 with amd64 (I've seen that happen, and not
> > > precisely with novice users).
> 
> This has certainly appened, *but* I have only see it happen with downloads 
> of Sarge images as amd64 are not mentioned on the sarge pages (because it 
> was not a release arch). To the best of my recollection, I have never yet 
> seen this happen with Etch images.
> 
> To prevent this an additional "note" about what to use with EM64T 
> processors could be useful. Or maybe a link "Confused about all these 
> images?" to a new page with a general overview of types of images and 
> arches would be good.

Here we count with the advantage that ia64 admins have a clear idea of what
they're looking for.  It is amd64 users that get confused.  If we exploit
this advantage by making multi-arch images very visible so that amd64 users
will choose that over ia64 (but still ia64 admins can find what they want),
we can solve the problem without adding extra information in a separate
page (which IMHO would make the interface more clumsy).

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Re: [PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 06:24:17PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Frans Pop wrote:
> > +   Multi-arch CD/DVD image for PC or Mac (i386 / amd64 / powerpc)
> > +   
> > +   Download via HTTP: [ > href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-cd/";>CD]
> >  [ > href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-dvd/";>DVD]
> > +   Download via  > href="$(HOME)/CD/jigdo-cd">jigdo: [ > href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-cd/";>CD]
> >  [ > href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-dvd/";>DVD]
> > +   
> 
> This seems reasonable, although it's wishful thinking that this will
> prevent people from downloading the right image. Indeed, the multiarch
> netinst linked to above is not the right image for a lot of people..

What kind of people do you have in mind ?  Users of other architectures should
have a clear idea of what they're looking for.

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Re: [PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:03:34AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> As this page is "owned" and maintained by the d-i project, this mail 
> should have gone to the debian-boot list and not d-cd or d-www.
> Moving the mail there for proper discussion.

Sorry about that.

Also, I forgot to mention that although I'm proposing the change in d-i
development page, my primary concern would be www.d.o/CD/ (which presumably
will just follow on what we decide here).

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Bug#413506: strange error from make_disc_trees.pl

2007-03-05 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi mates

The original bug seems to be fixed, thanks a lot.
However now I get another error, I attached the build log for that one.
The problem seems to be in add_packages this time with the call of
->gzclose();

Cheers
Steffen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator$ ./build.sh test 
etch-test
Found old logfiles: -rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  211 2006-10-01 18:09 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-10-01T18:09
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  319 2006-10-15 18:30 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-10-15T18:30
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  386 2006-10-19 16:21 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-10-19T16:21
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  497 2006-12-24 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-12-24T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  583 2006-12-28 18:08 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-12-28T18:05
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  675 2007-01-03 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-03T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  764 2007-01-07 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-07T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  853 2007-01-11 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-11T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  942 2007-01-19 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-19T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1031 2007-01-22 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-22T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1130 2007-02-01 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-01T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1220 2007-02-05 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-05T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1310 2007-02-12 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-12T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1400 2007-02-12 11:30 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-12T11:30
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1490 2007-02-20 11:16 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-20T11:16
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1580 2007-02-23 11:00 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-23T11:00
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 2210 2007-03-05 13:13 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-03-05T13:13
Debian-edu CD build on administrator.skolelinux.no

Build started 2007-03-06T07:45

Updating build tree
patching file data/etch/i386_udeb_include
patching file data/etch/amd64_udeb_include
patching file data/etch/powerpc_udeb_include
patching file tasks/Debian_etch
patching file tasks/debian-installer+kernel-etch
patching file tasks/debian-installer-etch
patching file tools/list2cds
patching file tools/add-bin-doc
patching file data/etch/exclude-udebs-i386
patching file tools/boot/etch/boot-i386
patching file data/etch/exclude-udebs
patching file tasks/exclude-etch
./build.sh: line 1: ARCHES: command not found

Updating tasks

Missing package file for arch alpha.
Missing package file for arch arm.
Missing package file for arch hppa.
Missing package file for arch hurd-i386.
Missing package file for arch ia64.
Missing package file for arch m68k.
Missing package file for arch mips.
Missing package file for arch mipsel.
Missing package file for arch s390.
Missing package file for arch sparc.
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory

Build begins

./build.sh: line 1: ARCHES: command not found
Using CONF from 
/home/builder/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator/CONF-etch-test.sh
/bin/sh: line 1: [: too many arguments
Cleaning the build directory
/bin/sh: line 1: [: too many arguments
Using the provided status file for etch-i386 ...
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/skolelinux/administrator/home2/builder/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator/debian-cd'
/bin/sh: line 1: [: too many arguments
Generating a fake status file for apt-get and apt-cache...
:> /skolelinux/administrator/temp_storage/builder/etch-test/apt/status
Ign file: etch/main/debian-installer Release
Ign file: etch/local/debian-installer Release
Reading Package Lists...
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  bind9-host: Depends: libisccfg1 but it is not installed
  dnsutils: Depends: libisccfg1 but it is not installed
  libbind9-0: Depends: libisccfg1 but it is not installed
  nfs-common: Depends: ucf but it is not installed
  Depends: libgssapi2 but it is not installed
  openssh-client: Depends: libedit2 (>= 2.5.cvs.20010821-1) but it is not 
installed
  pciutils: Depends: libpci2 but it is not instal

Re: Error in debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso (was: Re: Cd debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso com erro)

2007-03-05 Thread Frans Pop
(Please do not CC debian-project on this from now on.)

On Tuesday 06 March 2007 03:38, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
>   Marco is reporting that the debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso has
> a correct MD5 but he is find 27 errors in the MD5 verification of the
> recorded CD. He tried the below links[2][3][4].

Let's go back one step.
Does Marco really want the ia64 CD, which is for Intel Itanium processors 
only and not for the far more common Intel 64-bits EM64T or AMD64 
processors?

If he does not have an Itanium system, but rather a regular modern 64-bits 
system, he should probably not try to install Sarge at all (as the Sarge 
kernel is unlikely to correctly support his hardware), but rather use one 
of the amd64 images from [1], and install Etch.

[1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/


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Error in debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso (was: Re: Cd debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso com erro)

2007-03-05 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Debian Project, english information below, skip to [DEBIAN-CD]

Olá Marco,

Obrigado por sua mensagem. A lista debian-project é uma lista
na qual deve-se utilizar o inglês, se a língua estrangeira for um
problema pra você, não hesite em contatar a [1]debian-l10n-portuguese
que poderá ajudá-lo com as traduções.

  1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese


Além disso, o objetivo central da lista é discutir itens do
Projeto como um tudo, para questões ligadas aos CDs, o mais indicado
é contatar a lista debian-cd (também em inglês). Eu fiz uma livre
tradução da sua mensagem para adiantar o trabalho, sinta-se à
vontade para continuar acompanhando as mensagens nas listas apropriadas.


[DEBIAN-CD]
Hi People!

Marco is reporting that the debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso has
a correct MD5 but he is find 27 errors in the MD5 verification of the
recorded CD. He tried the below links[2][3][4].


On 03/05/2007 05:20 PM, Marco Aurélio Borges wrote:
> Ola,
> 
> apesar do md5 do iso estar correto, estou encontrando 27 erros na
> verificação do md5 do cd gravado
> debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso, que ja baixei dos seguintes links:
2. > 
http://debian.osuosl.org/debian-cdimage/current/ia64/bt-cd/debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso.torrent
3. > 
http://debian.pop-sc.rnp.br/mirror/debian-cd/current/ia64/iso-cd/debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso
4. > 
http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ia64/iso-cd/debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso
> 
> em anexo o relatório de erros


This is the Error Report:


> .\dists\testing\main\binary-ia64\Release ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\main\binary-ia64\Release does not exists.
> .\dists\testing\main\binary-ia64\Packages.gz ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\main\binary-ia64\Packages.gz does not exists.
> .\dists\testing\main\binary-ia64\Packages ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\main\binary-ia64\Packages does not exists.
> .\dists\testing\main\debian-installer\binary-ia64\Packages.gz ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\main\debian-installer\binary-ia64\Packages.gz does not 
> exists.
> .\dists\testing\main\debian-installer\binary-ia64\Packages ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\main\debian-installer\binary-ia64\Packages does not exists.
> .\dists\testing\contrib\binary-ia64\Release ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\contrib\binary-ia64\Release does not exists.
> .\dists\testing\contrib\binary-ia64\Packages.gz ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\contrib\binary-ia64\Packages.gz does not exists.
> .\dists\testing\contrib\binary-ia64\Packages ERROR: 
> I:\.\dists\testing\contrib\binary-ia64\Packages does not exists.
> .\dists\testing\Release ERROR: I:\.\dists\testing\Release does not exists.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-basic_defs.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-compat.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-contributing.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-customizing.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-faqinfo.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-ftparchives.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-getting.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-kernel.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-nexttime.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-pkg_basics.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-pkgtools.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-redistrib.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-software.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-support.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-uptodate.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\footnotes.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\doc\FAQ\html\index.html ERROR: Checksum did not match.
> .\pool\main\l\linux-kernel-di-ia64\firewire-core-modules-2.4.27-3-itanium-smp-di_1.00sarge1_ia64.udeb
>  ERROR: 
> I:\.\pool\main\l\linux-kernel-di-ia64\firewire-core-modules-2.4.27-3-itanium-smp-di_1.00sarge1_ia64.udeb
>  does not exists.
> .\dists\sarge\main\binary-ia64\Release OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-compat.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\main\binary-ia64\Packages.gz OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-contributing.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\main\binary-ia64\Packages OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-customizing.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\main\debian-installer\binary-ia64\Packages.gz OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-faqinfo.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\main\debian-installer\binary-ia64\Packages OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-ftparchives.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\contrib\binary-ia64\Release OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-getting.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\contrib\binary-ia64\Packages.gz OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-kernel.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\contrib\binary-ia64\Packages OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-nexttime.en.html OK
> .\dists\sarge\Release OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-pkg_basics.en.html OK
> .\.disk\info OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-pkgtools.en.html OK
> .\.disk\base_installable OK
> .\doc\FAQ\html\ch-redistrib.en.html OK
> .\.disk\base_com

RE: [PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread peter green

> This has certainly appened, *but* I have only see it happen with 
> downloads 
> of Sarge images as amd64 are not mentioned on the sarge pages (because it 
> was not a release arch). To the best of my recollection, I have never yet 
> seen this happen with Etch images.
me neither but from the posts on the debian forms i get the impression that 
those that are out of the loop don't try etch until after they have been told 
they don't have an ia64 chip and that this is likely to change after etch 
release. I also see a lot of posts about this that don't mention either etch or 
sarge explicitly in the initial post (and of course people immediately tell 
them to try amd64 etch so the question of which ia64 image they were using 
doesn't come up).

intel does not publicise the fact that they are now the cloners and amd the 
cloned so anyone who has been out of the techy loop for a while (or never been 
in it) is going to assume that amd64 is not going to run on an interl chip and 
anyone who has seen ia-32 used to reffer to 32 bit intel (not that uncommon). 
Also i belive there are many who won't remember macs are no longer powerpc.

> 
> To prevent this an additional "note" about what to use with EM64T 
> processors could be useful. Or maybe a link "Confused about all these 
> images?" to a new page with a general overview of types of images and 
> arches would be good.
another alternative would be to structure the page so that it could accomodate 
a short comment on what each architecture was for alongside the links for each 
architecture.

currently it seems for the stable releases there isn't even a download page as 
such, i just get directed to a folder on the mirror and left to find my own way 
from there.



Re: [PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 00:03, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 05 March 2007 23:40, Robert Millan wrote:
> > I think this is very necessary given how much confusion has been
> > introduced by amd64 and the intel-mac transition.  Users could:
> >
> >   1- Confuse ia64 with amd64 (I've seen that happen, and not
> > precisely with novice users).

This has certainly appened, *but* I have only see it happen with downloads 
of Sarge images as amd64 are not mentioned on the sarge pages (because it 
was not a release arch). To the best of my recollection, I have never yet 
seen this happen with Etch images.

To prevent this an additional "note" about what to use with EM64T 
processors could be useful. Or maybe a link "Confused about all these 
images?" to a new page with a general overview of types of images and 
arches would be good.

> >   2- Ignore wether their PC supports 64-bit mode (and in the latter
> > case, see #1).
> >   3- Ignore wether their Mac is powerpc-based or x86-based (and in
> > the latter case, see #2)

That said, all your arguments are very reasonable. I will take a closer 
look at the patch later.
The page needs some reorganization anyway because the KDE and Xfce images 
should get a place as well.

In general the "getting Debian" pages (including distrib, CD and 
devel/d-i) could do with some restructuring. IMHO it is a bit of a maze 
ATM.


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Re: [PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread Joey Hess
Frans Pop wrote:
> + Multi-arch CD/DVD image for PC or Mac (i386 / amd64 / powerpc)
> + 
> + Download via HTTP: [ href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-cd/";>CD]
>  [ href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-dvd/";>DVD]
> + Download via  href="$(HOME)/CD/jigdo-cd">jigdo: [ href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-cd/";>CD]
>  [ href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-dvd/";>DVD]
> + 

This seems reasonable, although it's wishful thinking that this will
prevent people from downloading the right image. Indeed, the multiarch
netinst linked to above is not the right image for a lot of people..

-- 
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Re: [PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread Frans Pop
As this page is "owned" and maintained by the d-i project, this mail 
should have gone to the debian-boot list and not d-cd or d-www.
Moving the mail there for proper discussion.

On Monday 05 March 2007 23:40, Robert Millan wrote:
> I think this is very necessary given how much confusion has been
> introduced by amd64 and the intel-mac transition.  Users could:
>
>   1- Confuse ia64 with amd64 (I've seen that happen, and not precisely
> with novice users).
>   2- Ignore wether their PC supports 64-bit mode (and in the latter
> case, see #1).
>   3- Ignore wether their Mac is powerpc-based or x86-based (and in the
>  latter case, see #2)
Index: images.data
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diff -u -r1.34 images.data
--- images.data	22 Feb 2007 11:13:03 -	1.34
+++ images.data	5 Mar 2007 22:20:23 -
@@ -45,18 +45,16 @@
 
 
 FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/iso-cd"; arch="" />
-[http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-cd/";>multi-arch] 
 
 
-FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/iso-dvd"; arch=" multi-arch" />
+FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/iso-dvd"; arch="" />
 
 
 
 FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/jigdo-cd"; arch="" />
-[http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-cd/";>multi-arch] 
 
 
-FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/jigdo-dvd"; arch=" multi-arch" />
+FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/jigdo-dvd"; arch="" />
 
 
 # Include only amd64 and i386 as the only images that are seeded sufficiently
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--- index.wml	16 Feb 2007 09:36:53 -	1.189
+++ index.wml	5 Mar 2007 22:20:24 -
@@ -116,6 +116,12 @@
 Debian testing.
 
 
+	Multi-arch CD/DVD image for PC or Mac (i386 / amd64 / powerpc)
+	
+		Download via HTTP: [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-cd/";>CD] [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-dvd/";>DVD]
+		Download via jigdo: [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-cd/";>CD] [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-dvd/";>DVD]
+	
+	
 	full CD/DVD sets
 	
 		CD: 


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[PATCH] make multi-arch CD/DVD images more visible

2007-03-05 Thread Robert Millan

See attached patch (and screenshot).

I think this is very necessary given how much confusion has been introduced by
amd64 and the intel-mac transition.  Users could:

  1- Confuse ia64 with amd64 (I've seen that happen, and not precisely with
 novice users).
  2- Ignore wether their PC supports 64-bit mode (and in the latter case,
 see #1).
  3- Ignore wether their Mac is powerpc-based or x86-based (and in the
 latter case, see #2)

-- 
Robert Millan

My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Note: this address is only intended
for spam harvesters.  Writing to it will get you added to my black list.
Index: images.data
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retrieving revision 1.34
diff -u -r1.34 images.data
--- images.data	22 Feb 2007 11:13:03 -	1.34
+++ images.data	5 Mar 2007 22:20:23 -
@@ -45,18 +45,16 @@
 
 
 FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/iso-cd"; arch="" />
-[http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-cd/";>multi-arch] 
 
 
-FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/iso-dvd"; arch=" multi-arch" />
+FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/iso-dvd"; arch="" />
 
 
 
 FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/jigdo-cd"; arch="" />
-[http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-cd/";>multi-arch] 
 
 
-FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/jigdo-dvd"; arch=" multi-arch" />
+FJP http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/@ARCH@/jigdo-dvd"; arch="" />
 
 
 # Include only amd64 and i386 as the only images that are seeded sufficiently
Index: index.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.189
diff -u -r1.189 index.wml
--- index.wml	16 Feb 2007 09:36:53 -	1.189
+++ index.wml	5 Mar 2007 22:20:24 -
@@ -116,6 +116,12 @@
 Debian testing.
 
 
+	Multi-arch CD/DVD image for PC or Mac (i386 / amd64 / powerpc)
+	
+		Download via HTTP: [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-cd/";>CD] [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/iso-dvd/";>DVD]
+		Download via jigdo: [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-cd/";>CD] [http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/multi-arch/jigdo-dvd/";>DVD]
+	
+	
 	full CD/DVD sets
 	
 		CD: 


multi-arch.png
Description: PNG image


Bug#413510: get_diskusage.pl is missing

2007-03-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007, Steffen Joeris wrote:
> I am a bit surprised of why the get_diskusage.pl script was dropped? Maybe I 
> am missing something, in this case sorry for the noise, but I could not find 
> any information about it in the changelog or in the svn log.
> I attached the script again and a small patch which I applied for the new 
> debian-cd version, can you maybe consider readding it or is it obsolete?

No idea for this, I'll let Steve answer.

> -"$ENV{TDIR}/$ENV{CODENAME}-$ENV{ARCH}/log.list2cds");
> +"$ENV{TDIR}/$ENV{CODENAME}-$ENV{ARCHES}/log.list2cds");

I doubt that this patch would work with debian-cd 3.0.

$ARCHES is a space separated list of arch and the file log.list2cds is now
in $TDIR/$CODENAME/ IIRC.

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Processed: Re: strange error from make_disc_trees.pl

2007-03-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> tag 413506 + patch pending
Bug#413506: strange error from make_disc_trees.pl
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Tags added: patch, pending

> severity 413506 serious
Bug#413506: strange error from make_disc_trees.pl
Severity set to `serious' from `grave'

> thanks
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Bug#413506: strange error from make_disc_trees.pl

2007-03-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
tag 413506 + patch pending
severity 413506 serious
thanks

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007, Steffen Joeris wrote:
>   Placing packages into image 1
> Nested quantifiers in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/^g++ <-- HERE $/ 
> at 
> /home/builder/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator/debian-cd/tools/make_disc_trees.pl
>  
> line 246.
> make: *** [image-trees] Error 9
> 
> I am not quite sure what is going mad there and it is probably too late
> for me to do debugging, sorry.

Please try this patch (or svn update your debian-cd tree) and confirm me
that it fixes your problem.

I already committed it to debian-cd's svn.

I leave the severity at RC level because we need to make sure that
debian-cd 3.0.1 (unreleased) gets into etch, it has many fixes used for
generating the real official Debian CDs and we want this into etch.
I'll leave the upload up to Steve.

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Index: tools/make_disc_trees.pl
===
--- tools/make_disc_trees.pl	(révision 1372)
+++ tools/make_disc_trees.pl	(copie de travail)
@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@
 foreach my $reinclude_pkg (@excluded_package_list) {
 my ($arch, $pkgname) = split /:/, $reinclude_pkg;
 foreach my $entry (@unexclude_packages) {
-if (($pkgname =~ /^$entry$/m)) {
+if (($pkgname =~ /^\Q$entry\E$/m)) {
 print LOG "Re-including $reinclude_pkg due to match on \"\^$entry\$\"\n";
 $guess_size = int($hfs_mult * add_packages($cddir, $reinclude_pkg));
 $size += $guess_size;
@@ -243,7 +243,7 @@
 my $should_exclude = 0;
 
 foreach my $entry (@exclude_packages) {
-	if (($pkgname =~ /^$entry$/m)) {
+	if (($pkgname =~ /^\Q$entry\E$/m)) {
 print LOG "Excluding $pkg due to match on \"\^$entry\$\"\n";
 $should_exclude++;
 }
@@ -254,7 +254,7 @@
 # exclude the package at the same time. If so, complain and
 # bail out
 foreach my $entry (@unexclude_packages) {
-if (($pkgname =~ /^$entry$/m)) {
+if (($pkgname =~ /^\Q$entry\E$/m)) {
 print LOG "But ALSO asked to unexclude $pkg due to match on \"\^$entry\$\"\n";
 print LOG "Make your mind up! Bailing out...\n";
 die "Incompatible exclude/unexclude entries for $pkg...\n";


Re: Problem downloading images with jigdo

2007-03-05 Thread Jens Seidel
Hi David,

On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:58:06PM +1100, David Eagleton wrote:
> I have been trying to download the template and jigdo files for v31r5 
> from cdimage.debian.org and have not been able to completely download 
> any template file, they always die when I get 535K of the file downloaded.

I can download
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/jigdo-dvd/debian-31r5-i386-binary-1.template
 
and
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-31r5-i386-binary-1.template
without any problem. Please try a different program to download the
files (I used wget). 
What file exactly fails for you?
 
There are also debian-update-* files available which are smaller. Maybe
you can use these?

> I have used jigdo several times in the past and not had a problem 
> before. Have you changed something at your webserver? Do I have to do 
> something different to get these files now? Is there an Australian 
> mirror for the jigdo and template files?

Sorry, I do not know any mirror. I cc:ed debian-cd which is the right
list for this kind of questions.

Jens


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Problems downloading from cdimage.debian.org

2007-03-05 Thread David Eagleton
I am trying to download the 31r5 i386 template and jigdo files from
cdimage.debian.org, and every time I hit 532K worth of download the
connection is broken.

What gives? I am using a 56K modem, I don't have access to ADSL or any
other fast connection, and in the past it has always worked OK. Are you
now only providing a service to users lucky enough to have a fast
connection? Or is there something wrong with your server?

Cheers,

David Eagleton.


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Bug#413510: get_diskusage.pl is missing

2007-03-05 Thread Steffen Joeris
Package: debian-cd
Severity: normal
Tags: Patch

Hi mates

I am a bit surprised of why the get_diskusage.pl script was dropped? Maybe I 
am missing something, in this case sorry for the noise, but I could not find 
any information about it in the changelog or in the svn log.
I attached the script again and a small patch which I applied for the new 
debian-cd version, can you maybe consider readding it or is it obsolete?

Cheers and thanks a lot
Steffen


--- trunk/src/build/CD-administrator/get_diskusage.pl   2007-03-05 12:54:44 
UTC (rev 31376)
+++ trunk/src/build/CD-administrator/get_diskusage.pl   2007-03-05 12:55:08 
UTC (rev 31377)
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
 getopts('cm:t', \%opts); 
 
 my $logfile = ($ARGV[0] ||
-"$ENV{TDIR}/$ENV{CODENAME}-$ENV{ARCH}/log.list2cds");
+"$ENV{TDIR}/$ENV{CODENAME}-$ENV{ARCHES}/log.list2cds");
 
 my $cdlimit = ($ARGV[1] || 1) + 1;


get_diskusage.pl
Description: Perl program


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Bug#413506: strange error from make_disc_trees.pl

2007-03-05 Thread Steffen Joeris
Package: debian-cd
Severity: grave

Hi mates

Today I started to upgrade the debian-edu version of debian-cd to the newest 
svn version. After some startup configuration I got it to a point where I get 
this error from make_disc_trees.pl :

  Placing packages into image 1
Nested quantifiers in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/^g++ <-- HERE $/ 
at 
/home/builder/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator/debian-cd/tools/make_disc_trees.pl
 
line 246.
make: *** [image-trees] Error 9

I am not quite sure what is going mad there and it is probably too late for me 
to do debugging, sorry.
I attached the output from the build. There are some parts, for instance the 
usage of get_diskusage.pl which was added, but as far as I can see the 
problem is not caused by any patching, maybe a missconfiguration?
So maybe you want to downgrade the priority, but so far I can't get it build 
and maybe there is a problem with the make_disc_trees.pl script.

Cheers and thanks for your help.
Steffen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator$ ./build.sh test 
etch-test
Found old logfiles: -rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  211 2006-10-01 18:09 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-10-01T18:09
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  319 2006-10-15 18:30 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-10-15T18:30
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  386 2006-10-19 16:21 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-10-19T16:21
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  497 2006-12-24 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-12-24T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  583 2006-12-28 18:08 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2006-12-28T18:05
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  675 2007-01-03 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-03T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  764 2007-01-07 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-07T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  853 2007-01-11 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-11T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder  942 2007-01-19 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-19T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1031 2007-01-22 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-01-22T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1130 2007-02-01 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-01T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1220 2007-02-05 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-05T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1310 2007-02-12 11:15 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-12T11:15
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1400 2007-02-12 11:30 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-12T11:30
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1490 2007-02-20 11:16 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-20T11:16
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 1580 2007-02-23 11:00 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-02-23T11:00
-rw-r--r--  1 builder builder 2210 2007-03-05 13:13 
/tmp/debian-edu-cd-build-2007-03-05T13:13
Debian-edu CD build on administrator.skolelinux.no

Build started 2007-03-05T15:06

Updating build tree
patching file data/etch/i386_udeb_include
patching file data/etch/amd64_udeb_include
patching file data/etch/powerpc_udeb_include
patching file tasks/Debian_etch
patching file tasks/debian-installer+kernel-etch
patching file tasks/debian-installer-etch
patching file tools/list2cds
patching file tools/add-bin-doc
patching file data/etch/exclude-udebs-i386
patching file tools/boot/etch/boot-i386
patching file data/etch/exclude-udebs
patching file tasks/exclude-etch
./build.sh: line 1: ARCHES: command not found

Updating tasks

Missing package file for arch alpha.
Missing package file for arch arm.
Missing package file for arch hppa.
Missing package file for arch hurd-i386.
Missing package file for arch ia64.
Missing package file for arch m68k.
Missing package file for arch mips.
Missing package file for arch mipsel.
Missing package file for arch s390.
Missing package file for arch sparc.
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory
zcat: 
/skolelinux/administrator/debmirror/debian/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-m68k/Packages.gz:
 No such file or directory

Build begins

./build.sh: line 1: ARCHES: command not found
Using CONF from 
/home/builder/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator/CONF-etch-test.sh
/bin/sh: line 1: [: too many arguments
Cleaning the build directory
/bin/sh: line 1: [: too many arguments
Using the provided status file for etch-i386 ...
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/skolelinux/administrator/home2/builder/src/debian-edu/src/build/CD-administrator/debian-cd'
/bin/sh: line 1: [: too many arguments
Generating a fake status file for apt-get and apt-cache...
:>