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Bug#513071: Regression: for some hosts etch can connect but lenny can't 
(password auth)
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Bug#522354: kmymoney2: Crashes when opening a custom report
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Bug#522303: xfburn: Hangs when Burn Image pressed before drive has settled
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Bug#367026: linux-image-2.6.15-1-486: HID sermouse driver fails to detect 
Logitech mouse on ttyS0
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Bug#511455: xorg: Second (right-hand) screen doesn't let mouse got back to left 
hand screen
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Bug#512096: screem: DBus error - closing shared connection
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Bug#512477: picocom: Received uses send command if a filename is specified when 
prompted
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Bug#516668: screen: Screen fails to properly handle backspace in some terminals 
/ sessions
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Bug#516796: lxpanel: Does not work with 
/usr/share/applications/kde/application.desktop
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Bug#517190: lxde: Does not support the Debian Menu
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Bug#517463: debpartial-mirror: get_sources = true doesn't get sources
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> submitter 517797 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#517797: xscreensaver: Does not correctly handle differing horizontal and 
vertical DPI
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Bug#517799: inkscape: Does not respect different x from y DPI
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Bug#517800: fontconfig: Does not respect differing x and y DPI
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Bug#518089: xserver-xorg: X with resolution autoconfiguration (default) selects 
non-square pixels
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Bug#518683: pcman: Removable devices view has multiple entries for same device
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Bug#519200: k3b: Should recognize cdrskin as cdrecord (it's compatible)
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> submitter 519362 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#519362: kitty: .desktop file should be in /usr/share/applications
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Bug#522115: qemu-launcher: unstable qemu uses -vga std for standard vga not 
-std-vga
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> submitter 522124 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#522124: qemu: graphics beyond VGA hang VM
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> submitter 522214 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#522214: snd-gtk: depends on gamin; fam should be possible to (depend on 
libgamin0?)
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> submitter 522933 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#522933: Selecting Cancel after burn image's auto prompt for blanking disc 
hangs xfburn (uncloseable)
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> submitter 523017 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#523017: debian-cd: Doesn't support local udebs if using a repo that 
requires section: local/debian-installer for local udebs
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> submitter 510928 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#510928: Needs way to set tasksel/desktop with hacking 
/var/cache/debconf/config.dat
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> submitter 519329 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#519329: apt-src: Doesn't recognize codenames (e.g. lenny), but only suites 
(e.g. stable)
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> submitter 520365 crazycsh...@gmail.com
Bug#520365: No pol

Re: Bug#532515: on making decisions vs letting things happen

2009-07-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 05 July 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> I must say that I'm not at all sure that the change to include
> Recommends wasn't done prematurely or too lightly. It is quite likely
> to also affect the server tasks in quite a big way and could have a
> major impact on the contents of CD images if not handled correctly.

I also feel it is rather inconsistent to have tasksel install Recommends 
while debootstrap and base-installer do not.


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Re: Bug#532515: on making decisions vs letting things happen

2009-07-05 Thread Frans Pop
(Adding d-cd to CCs.)

On Sunday 05 July 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le samedi 04 juillet 2009 à 16:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > * After stable was released, many more maintainers began assuming
> > recommends would be installed by default. These recommends had to be
> > manually noticed and tracked in tasksel. IIRC there was a case where
> > the omission of a recommended package could have potentially left X
> > nearly unusable. (Don't remember the details.)
[...]
> >  At this point it became clear to me that
> >   it was time to make tasksel install recommends by default, since
> >   manually tracking them in tasks wasn't feasable going forward[2].
> >
> > * At that point, I reviewed packages that were only in task lists
> >   due to being recommended, and removed them. This had a nice benefit
> >   in simplifying the gnome-desktop task[1].
[...]
> I agree that feedback from the CD team would be nice. I’ll ask them to
> do a simulation once the GNOME 2.26 metapackages are ready. Anyway
> fitting all of this on the first CD is out of question. The primary
> package still being gnome-desktop-environment, I guess we should focus
> the size efforts on this one and ensure it can still fit on one CD.

The first full DVD needs to be considered too. It's supposed to support 
installing all four desktop environments without the use of a mirror.

In general debian-cd may need to be modified as AFAIK currently it does 
not consider Recommends at all when deciding which packages to include on 
which CD. It might be an option to extend d-cds functionality in such a 
way that Recommends do get considered, but only _after_ dependencies for 
all tasks relevant for a CD/DVD set.

I must say that I'm not at all sure that the change to include Recommends 
wasn't done prematurely or too lightly. It is quite likely to also affect 
the server tasks in quite a big way and could have a major impact on the 
contents of CD images if not handled correctly.
I also wonder what impact it will have on the total installed size of the 
different desktop environments and server tasks as documented in the 
manual. Quite likely testing task installs in emulators will be a bigger 
pain than it already is and the "available space" check in tasksel for 
the desktop task will probably need adjustment (4GB instead of the 
current 3GB?).

One option could of course be to not change d-cds functionality at all and 
only install Recommends if available (either from additional CDs or a 
mirror), which does seem to fit its purpose.


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