Re: PowerPC daily install CDs? [Was: Re: Netinst for testing?]

2009-10-28 Thread Rick Thomas


On Oct 24, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:



On Oct 24, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Frans Pop wrote:


On Saturday 24 October 2009, Dennis Wicks wrote:

I thought that I had previously gotten net install CD iso
for what was then the testing release of Debian.


Links to current images are available from:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Cheers,
FJP



Hmmm... If I follow that link, then click on
"• netinst ... and businesscard ... CD images ... [powerpc]"
I get taken to a directory that claims "This build finished at Thu  
Oct 1 23:28:01 UTC 2009."


Is it possible that PowerPC CD builds have been down for over three  
weeks and nobody noticed?


!?!?!?!

Rick


Any idea when this will be fixed?  Just wondering...

Rick

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Re: howto interact with HW-detection of installer

2009-10-28 Thread Frans Pop
The debian-boot list is more appropriate for this question. Please reply to 
that list and not to debian-cd.

On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Geronimo Ma. Hernandez wrote:
> I read the wiki of DebianInstaller and DebianCustomCD, as well as
> "debian installer internals", but I stil didn't get rid of how to
> interface with HW-detection part of the installer.
>
> I would like to have different package-lists installed, based on the
> detected hardware.
>
> So how can I determine the result of hw-detection? Does the installer
> use environment  variables or the /proc filesystem, or ... ?

With current kernels d-i does not actually do very much hardware detection. 
Most hardware is detected automatically by the kernel in combination with 
udev. udev decides which modules to load based on the modules.*map files 
in /lib/modules//.

There are several ways to get info about hardware:
- files in /sys or /proc
- utilities like lspci, lsusb, dmidecode (not all available in D-I)

What to use depends on what you want...

> Or do I have to build my own udeb for the hw I like to detect?
> ... and if I do that, how can I switch the packagelist for the base
> installer?

base-installer is in most cases not the best place to install extra 
packages. Doing that in pkgsel is preferred.
There are quite a lot of methods you could use to make D-I install extra 
packages. What method is best depends. A lot can be done using preseeding 
(run a script in preseed-early and have that drop custom hook scripts in 
various places for example), but creating a custom udeb is also an option.

If you need to ask questions from the user, a custom udeb is the only 
really good solution.

> There's a lot of information out there, but the installer is quite
> complex ...

Yes, it is :-) Maybe we could help better if you gave more concrete 
examples of what you want.

Cheers,
FJP


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howto interact with HW-detection of installer

2009-10-28 Thread Geronimo Ma. Hernandez
Hello,

I read the wiki of DebianInstaller and DebianCustomCD, as well as "debian 
installer internals", but I stil didn't get rid of how to interface with 
HW-detection part of the installer.

I would like to have different package-lists installed, based on the detected 
hardware.

So how can I determine the result of hw-detection? Does the installer use 
environment  variables or the /proc filesystem, or ... ?

Or do I have to build my own udeb for the hw I like to detect? 
... and if I do that, how can I switch the packagelist for the base installer?

There's a lot of information out there, but the installer is quite complex ...

Any hint is appreciated.

kind regards
Geronimo


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