About ALPHA - CD and DVD - Debian Lenny

2010-06-16 Thread Alex

Problems !!!

In http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/iso-cd/ there are only 
3 CD.
And 6 CD Debian Update.

In http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/iso-dvd/ there is only 
1 DVD.
And 1 DVD Debian Update.

But in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/jigdo-cd/ there are 29 template  jigdo 
files for 29 CD


And in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/jigdo-dvd/ there are 5 template  jigdo 
files for 5 DVD


What happened ?
I need the 5 DVDs for Alpha :)

Thanks for your attention.

Alex


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Re: About ALPHA - CD and DVD - Debian Lenny

2010-06-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
(should really get this added to the FAQ...)

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:24:27AM +0200, Alex wrote:
Problems !!!

In http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/iso-cd/ there are 
only 3 CD.
And 6 CD Debian Update.

In http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/iso-dvd/ there is 
only 1 DVD.
And 1 DVD Debian Update.

But in
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/jigdo-cd/ there
are 29 template  jigdo files for 29 CD

And in
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.4/alpha/jigdo-dvd/
there are 5 template  jigdo files for 5 DVD

What happened ?

We don't store/serve the full set of ISO images for all architectures,
to reduce the amount of space taken up on the mirrors. You can use the
jigdo tool to recreate the ISOs instead. See

  http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#why-jigdo

for more information.

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Re: Multi-arch netinst getting too big

2010-06-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:06:14PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:30 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 For the last few builds, the i386/amd64/powerpc sid netinst image has
 become too big to fit on one CD any more. The following packages are
 falling off onto a second disk now:
 
 i386:main:linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem:27213342
 i386:main:linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem:3036
 i386:main:linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem:516338
 i386:main:linux-headers-2.6-686-bigmem:2930

The linux-image ones were added to support installation into a Xen PV
domain and were added to this image precisely because it was one of the
few images which was considered to have room -- it would be a shame to
have to drop them.

Hmmm, OK.

 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/20100615-5/multi-arch/list-cd/debian-testing-amd64-i386-powerpc-netinst.list.gz
 
 in case anybody wants to take a look and suggest things...

I'm afraid I don't have any good ideas. Is this particular image
supposed to contain a complete base system or just enough to fetch the
remainder of the base system from the net?

The netinsts are meant to have the base system, yes. I can't see
anything obvious myself that we can drop. Maybe time to give up on
powerpc on that image, like we've done on the m-a DVD. Shame, but
there's only so much stuff we can accommodate here. Anybody else have
an opinion here? Frans/Joey?

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Re: Multi-arch netinst getting too big

2010-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 I'm afraid I don't have any good ideas. Is this particular image
 supposed to contain a complete base system or just enough to fetch the
 remainder of the base system from the net?

 The netinsts are meant to have the base system, yes. I can't see
 anything obvious myself that we can drop. Maybe time to give up on
 powerpc on that image, like we've done on the m-a DVD. Shame, but
 there's only so much stuff we can accommodate here. Anybody else have
 an opinion here? Frans/Joey?

The i386 netinst has also grown substantially. The base system probably 
needs cleaning as part of the final preparations for Squeeze. I suspect 
ATM 2 versions of Python get installed for example, and probably some 
(old) libs have a too high priority.

But partly it's normal growth: the G-I initrds are still larger than
for Lenny due to the switch to X.Org. The kernel packages are undoubtedly 
bigger again and the addition of firmware packages will not have helped 
either.

Someone will have to do a detailed comparison between Lenny and Squeeze 
images to see where the changes are and whether some cleanup is possible. 
Possibly some udebs and/or packages can be excluded.
All inclusion/exclusion lists should be reviewed in general.

Beside the netinsts, all first CD and DVD images will need careful review 
of contents as well: are desktops installable using first images only (at 
least for i386 and amd64)?

One option may be to drop PDF and text versions of the manual. But space 
will have to be reserved for the Release Notes.

I will not be doing any work on any of this myself this release.

Cheers,
FJP


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qsvu vl2

2010-06-16 Thread Justa Denisha
tj6


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Upcoming Lenny point release

2010-06-16 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi,

The next Lenny point release (5.0.5) is scheduled for Saturday, June
26th.

Stable NEW will be frozen during the weekend of June 19th - 20th.

Regards,

Adam


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