Re: dvd Jessie images

2013-10-16 Thread Bob Proulx
andrey.ry...@bilkent.edu.tr wrote:
> > http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#not-all-images
> Thanks!!
> It seems this is the best answer ))

Just to show how easy jigdo is let me show an example.

  # apt-get install jigdo-file

  $ mkdir jigdo-stuff
  $ cd jigdo-stuff
  $ jigdo-lite --noask 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/debian-7.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo
  ...lots of output and some minutes of time...
  OK: Checksums match, image is good!

  $ ls -ldog debian-7.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
  -rw-rw-r-- 1 3934945280 Oct 16 14:49 debian-7.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

Very easy!  I did the above as I wrote this response to verify that
the process was exactly as I cut and pasted it.  (I also needed to
make a disk image for my own purposes so it was convenient to do.)

The amount of time to download the DVD will depend upon the speed of
your network connection.  It could take a while!  But that would also
be true of a full image.  Jigo caches the files in process and so may
be restarted efficiently if it is stopped and started again.

Bob


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Re: Why Debian has only 3 DVD's ISO?

2013-05-08 Thread Bob Proulx
arypsg wrote:
> Why Debian has only 3 DVD's ISO?

All of the DVDs images are available.  It is only that Debian is not
hosting them as iso images on their download site.  There are 10 DVD
images for amd64.

But only a very unusually rare number of people will need any of the
higher numbered DVD images.  I assume this is an academic question of
yours as to why the images are not available?

> I thought amd64 and i368 are common architectures in Debian, but it seems
> that I was wrong, as you on
> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ you said:
> " For the less common architectures only a limited number of images from
> the CD and DVD sets is available as ISO file. The full sets are only
> available via jigdo."

That does seem like a minor documentation bug that should be updated
on that page.  Until they became so large all images were hosted there.

> On http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ there are only
> 3 DVD's ISO.

It is a problem of mirror site disk space and bandwidth.  Mirror sites
do not have infinite disk space nor infinite bandwidth.  There is a
cost to everything.  At some point there isn't enough space nor
bandwidth nor the associated actual cost of hosting them.  Mirrors
would stop hosting Debian if it grew without bounds.

Therefore compromises must be made.  The very little used images are
not hosted.  It is very unusual for anyone to need or to use those
images.  However they are available and you can create them for
yourself very easily.

If you desire any or all of the 10 DVD set for amd64 then they are
available for very easy creation using jigdo-lite.  Here is an example.

  # apt-get install jigdo-file

  $ mkdir jigdo-stuff
  $ cd jigdo-stuff
  $ jigdo-lite --noask 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/debian-7.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo
  ...lots of output and some minutes of time...
  OK: Checksums match, image is good!   

  $ ls -ldog debian-7.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
  -rw-rw-r-- 1 3998007296 May  8 12:39 debian-7.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

Very easy!  I did the above as I wrote this response to verify that
the process was exactly as I cut and pasted it.  (I also needed to
make a disk image for my own purposes so it was convenient to do.)

Bob


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Re: I Can't download debian —Prakash Thangavelu

2008-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Prakash Thangavelu wrote:
> I am Prakash from Chennai, India. I have downloaded first 2 DVD
> images of the stable version of Debian 4. Now I can't continue the
> download. Please help me to download 3rd DVD image. I have spend 4
> days to download the first 2 DVD images. I am downloading the images
> with BitTorrent and I am using uTorrent as my torrent client.

Before spending a lot of time trying to download the third dvd image
it is good to assure you that the third disk is not needed to install
Debian.  Unless you are operating completely offline and unconnected
from the Internet then downloading all of the dvd images are not
needed to install Debian.  Generally only the first disk of either the
CD or DVD install disks is enough to install Debian.  It is generally
preferable to install from the first disk and then to add other
components by installing with a network available.  The latest
available packages will be installed over the network.

The later disks are provided for completeness.  It makes it possible
to install a complete system in an isolated environment that does not
have network access.  It makes it possible to archive a complete set
of software for long term risk abatement.  But for most users this is
not needed nor is it desirable.  For most users installing from the
first disk with a network available for additional components is the
best installation choice.

Bob


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Re: no root file system question

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Proulx
David Ashworth wrote:
> Hello, hope I am in the right area to ask this question.  If I am
> not, please tell me a better place.

This list is about creating CD images.  The debian-boot list would be
more appropriate.  It is about the debian-installer and your question
is really more about how to drive the installer.  Here are some
resources that will be useful to you.

  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller

  http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/

But let me give you a few hints here anyway.

> I am trying to install debian via the cd.  I get to one area and I
> am stumped.  I get the message" no root file system is defined.
> please correct this from the partitioning menu." Now, I go to the
> partitioning menu and go around and around in a loop and get the
> same no root file system message.  I don't know what it wants. Maybe
> something simple, but what?

I don't remember the exact wording but perhaps I can give enough hints
to provide help anyway.

The root filesystem is the part where you would have indicated it
being "ext3" or one of the others and assigned it the the "/"
location.  Do you remember doing that?

> I am using the second drive in my PC.  It is all Linux.  Here is what it
> looks like: (hdb) 61.5 GB, #1 primary 59.3 GB B K lvm,#5 logical 2.2 GB
> F swap swap.

It is a little hard to read what you wrote since those lines are
smashed together but neither of those are the root partition.  The
first is a partition that is indicated to be used for LVM.  When this
is seen by the installer it will add a new option to the top list
which is to configure the lvm manager.  After assigning a partition
for use with LVM then you must then configure lvm to create logical
volumes and then use one of those logical volumes for the root
partition.  But as you show things now you do not yet have a partition
assigned to the root filesystem.  The second partition that you show
is a swap partition.

> So, I am in this loop.  Where is this root file?  Is it on the CD?  I am new
> to this, so I am a little confused.  Everything up to this step has gone OK.
> Been reading the help files, but being as I am new to this, more confusion
> than help.

If you want to continue with lvm then configure the lvm manager and
create a volume group and then create a logical volume on that volume
group.  Then assign it to the root partition.

If you have never used lvm before it can be somewhat confusing.  I use
lvm routinely because it allows me to resize partitions and in general
think it is a good thing to use.  But if you are not familiar with lvm
them it might be better to try the installation without it.  That
would make things a little bit simpler.  In which case you could
delete the lvm partition and use that space for a regular ext3
filesystem and then assign that filesystem to "/".

This is where the "guided" partitioning is very helpful.  You could
simply allow the installer to automatically partition the disk for
you.  Putting everything into one filesystem may be the easiest way to
get going.

Bob


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Re: installation CD/DVD of ia64 is not being recognized on boot

2008-03-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Rudolf Hellmuth wrote:
> A month ago, I installed Debian Etch in a i386 laptop and became very happy
> with it. Now I'm trying to install in my ia64 desktop, but the the media,
> either CD or DVD (both disc 1 of 40r3), aren't being recognized on
> boot.

A common problem is that people confuse ia64 and amd64 with each
other.  I believe you have done so here because your symptoms match
this frequently seen problem.  The amd64 hardware exists widely but
ia64 is much less common.  Please verify the architecture of your
machine.  It is very likely that you are trying to install an ia64
image onto an amd64 architecture machine.  In that case the solution
is to use the amd64 installation image instead.

Bob


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Re: Request for Free Linux CD

2007-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
> Can you Please send me Free debian Linux CD to the below
> mentioned address.

I am sorry but Debian itself does not have the resources to send out
free cd media.  The data may be freely downloaded however.  Please see
this reference for more information.

  http://www.debian.org/distrib/

Bob


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> 19D,third Cross,Pattamal Nagar,
> Mudalairpet,
> Pudhucherry-605004,
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Re: broken $MIRROR/dists/$CODENAME/Release file

2007-11-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Otavio Salvador wrote:
> It's supported for this kind of bug (critical) but not others.

Good.  Thanks.

> Ack.

Ack.  :-)

Bob


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Re: broken $MIRROR/dists/$CODENAME/Release file

2007-11-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Otavio Salvador wrote:
> While I see your reasons for the message, I'd say that you're wrong
> since debian-cd is used from svn even for point releases (just, in
> this case, from a branch).

I think what you are saying by this (even if not intended) is that
packaged versions of debian-cd should not be used and the svn version
is the only supported version.  If that is true then the package
should be removed from stable.  On the other hand if the package is
useful and supported then bugs should be accepted against the stable
version of the package.

This is a fundamental discussion that has been talked about on various
Debian lists for a very long time.  Is the BTS for stable or unstable?
Is stable supported or is only unstable supported?

*I don't want to solve it here!*  I am just pointing out that this
basic paradigm schism seems to be at the core of this topic point.

Bob


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Re: just to say thank you

2007-09-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert Chute wrote:
> is there any way you can remove my email address from this post
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2003/10/msg2.html   
> i never knew that saying "thank you" would get so much spam

Welcome to the hostile world of spammers.  :-(

Unfortunately what you want is not usually possible in any practical
sense.  Mail sent to mailing lists are replicated thousands of times
to all of the subscribers of the mailing list.  Many of the
subscribers are automated robots that archive the messages into
archives most of which are available on the Internet.  Therefore even
if that particular archive on lists.debian.org were to delete the
message that message would still appear on other archives and in other
people's personal mailboxes and other places.  In order to put this
genie back into the bottle you would need to hunt down probably a
thousand locations and remove that message.  It is simply not
possible.

Now before you say, "But Google only shows this one location.", let me
say that I am sure this is temporary and other sites will eventually
be threaded.  Also viruses on MS machines with your message in
personal mailboxes will respond to and forge from that address and so
eventually it will show up in other strange places too at a "joe-job".
It will remain in the google cache for a while and also there are
"wayback" machines that will archive it and so on.

In any case the place to appeal to in order to handle messages to
mailing lists the "-owner" address, in this case the debian-cd owner
is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address.  That is the list
owner address.  No one on the debian-cd mailing list is an
administrator.  We are all users here.  So that would be the place to
ask your question.  I don't know what their policy is on those types
of requests.  You might get lucky.

Just so that I can be more depressing for you today (sorry) let me add
that hiding an email address only lasts for so long.  Almost certainly
some loved one will think they are doing something nice and send you a
greeting card from a greeting card site and then at that time your
mail address would escape once again into the spammers hands.  Friends
and relatives almost never understand how things work well enough to
protect your email address to the extent you would need to keep it
hidden long term and all it takes is one mistake by any of them and it
is once again out in the wild.

But in any case it would already be too late to hide.  If you are
already getting spam then that address is already in the hands of
spammers and will always receive spam in the future.  I am still
getting spam to addresses that I have turned into a honeypot because
they are a decade obsolete addresses but still they get spam.  It is
better to install spam handling tools such as SpamAssassin and fight
the problem head on.

Good luck!
Bob


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Re: debian-30r3-i386

2004-11-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Edgardo Vázquez wrote:
> Hi, i would like to know what kernel come with the
> debian-30r3-i386-binary-1.iso, i need to install shorewall to my
> machine but it dont work with kernel 2.2.20 and i tried to install a
> new kernel but have many problems, so decided to download the
> debian-30r3-i386-binary-1.iso but im not sure what kernel it have. If
> anyone know please let me know.

Debian released 3.0 with both a linux-2.2 kernel a linux-2.4 kernel.
You may select either one when installing.  At install time you should
press F1, F2, F3, etc. and read the installation instructions provided
there.  The option you are looking for is "bf24".

If after having installed Debian with a linux-2.2 kernel you find that
you wish to upgrade to a linux-2.4 kernel you may do so easily with
the APT tools.  There is no need to reinstall the system.  Simply
install the new kernel.

  apt-get update
  apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4

These questions are best for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not for
debian-cd.  Please post any further questions to the debian-user list.

Bob


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Re: debian cd cover generator

2004-11-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert Lemmen wrote:
> http://www.semistable.com/cdcover.pl
>
> so, comments please...

Extremely cool!  Can't wait for the cd label feature.

Would it be possible to add amd64 to the architecture list?

Bob


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Re: password

2004-06-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Darren Smith wrote:
> Hi I know this sounds silly but Ive installed linux debian and everything went very 
> well i thought but I came to the end when I hit a login prompt which i thought i had 
> written login and passwords down but its not working.Can you help me please.

Boot from your installation media, but don't install.  Use ALT-F2 to
select the other virtual console giving you a root terminal.  Use that
mount your new system and to set a new password there.

Example commands below.  Note "example" as you will need to change
your commands accordingly.

  ALT-F2
  mkdir /new
  mount /dev/hda1 /new
  chroot /new /bin/bash
  passwd root
  exit
  reboot

Note this question would be better asked in debian-user and not
debian-cd.

Bob


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Re: jigdo and unofficial Debian images

2004-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Atterer wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The most common problem with jigdo I've found is that what is specified
> > in the .jigdo file to be downloaded to complete the image is not an
> > accurate reflection of what actually exists on the corresponding mirror. 
> 
> This is a general problem with Debian mirrors: They are a "moving target" - 
> while CD images are only created weekly, the mirror contents change every 
> day.

Would it be possible (or even reasonable given load usage constraints)
to base the unstable jigdo images off of the snapshot.debian.net
archive?  That provides an unmoving snapshot of sid.  I would hate to
overload their archive, however.  It is a very valuable resource and I
use it often but I think it is a single distribution point.  Perhaps
as a fallback only?

Just a passing thought...

Bob


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Re: Adding eepro100.o to sarge netinst

2003-06-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Bob Proulx]
> > So basically with the 2.4.20 and later kernels you need to change
> > the module name for that driver from eepro100 to e100.
> 
> Yes, we know.  We are waiting for discover version 2 to be able to fix
> this.

But apparently the original poster did not know that.  This was in
response to his posting.

> BTW: The correct mailing list for discussing the Debian installation
>   system is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes.  But who is talking about the installer?  In the original
message, the OP was asking how to get the eepro100 driver added to the
ISO cd image.  He did not know that he did not need it there nor why.

Yes, discover 2 will be wonderful.  But if we talk about that then we
will be talking about the installer and should do that in debian-boot
instead of here.  :-)

Bob


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Re: Adding eepro100.o to sarge netinst

2003-06-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Bob Proulx]
> > So basically with the 2.4.20 and later kernels you need to change
> > the module name for that driver from eepro100 to e100.
> 
> Yes, we know.  We are waiting for discover version 2 to be able to fix
> this.

But apparently the original poster did not know that.  This was in
response to his posting.

> BTW: The correct mailing list for discussing the Debian installation
>   system is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes.  But who is talking about the installer?  In the original
message, the OP was asking how to get the eepro100 driver added to the
ISO cd image.  He did not know that he did not need it there nor why.

Yes, discover 2 will be wonderful.  But if we talk about that then we
will be talking about the installer and should do that in debian-boot
instead of here.  :-)

Bob


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Re: Adding eepro100.o to sarge netinst

2003-06-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Joseph Barillari wrote:
> > does not have the eepro100 (a fairly common ethernet card)
> > driver. Is there an easy way to build an image that has it? Failing
> > that, where may I suggest that it be added to the ISO?
> 
> I suspect this driver is called e100 now.

Just some background...

This card has has two different drivers for quite a while.  One is the
'eepro100' driver which was a free driver and widely distributed.
Unfortunately it had some problems and under some conditions would
stop working on a system and requiring a reset to restore functioning.

The second driver was the driver source direct from Intel, the
manufacturer of the chipset, called the 'e100' driver.  It seems to be
a high quality driver and to avoid the "drop out" problem of the
eepro100 driver.  We have switched entirely over to it.  It has been
available as a direct download from Intel from their web site but it
had originally been released under a non-free Intel copyright.

Intel recently changed the copyright on the e100 driver.  It is now
free and redistributable.  It is now getting distributed with the
2.4.20 kernel series.  Intel did a good thing there by making their
driver both available and free.

So basically with the 2.4.20 and later kernels you need to change the
module name for that driver from eepro100 to e100.

Bob


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Re: Adding eepro100.o to sarge netinst

2003-06-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Joseph Barillari wrote:
> > does not have the eepro100 (a fairly common ethernet card)
> > driver. Is there an easy way to build an image that has it? Failing
> > that, where may I suggest that it be added to the ISO?
> 
> I suspect this driver is called e100 now.

Just some background...

This card has has two different drivers for quite a while.  One is the
'eepro100' driver which was a free driver and widely distributed.
Unfortunately it had some problems and under some conditions would
stop working on a system and requiring a reset to restore functioning.

The second driver was the driver source direct from Intel, the
manufacturer of the chipset, called the 'e100' driver.  It seems to be
a high quality driver and to avoid the "drop out" problem of the
eepro100 driver.  We have switched entirely over to it.  It has been
available as a direct download from Intel from their web site but it
had originally been released under a non-free Intel copyright.

Intel recently changed the copyright on the e100 driver.  It is now
free and redistributable.  It is now getting distributed with the
2.4.20 kernel series.  Intel did a good thing there by making their
driver both available and free.

So basically with the 2.4.20 and later kernels you need to change the
module name for that driver from eepro100 to e100.

Bob


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Re: stuff that needs to be on cd #1

2003-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
> > Please make sure that the following stuff is on cd #1, if at all possible:

Previously 'rsync' was on CD2.  But that is also a key enabling
program.  If possible I would like to see rsync on CD1.  190k

Thanks
Bob


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Re: 3.0r1 DVD ISO jigdo: Myth or Reality?

2003-03-08 Thread Bob Proulx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Are you using a 2.4 kernel? I'm afraid the default kernel is a 2.2 kernel. 
> > Either install a newer one or enter "bf2.4" at the CD boot prompt...
> 
> Yes, you were right - the default kernel ist still 2.2.20 with Debian GNU
> Linux 3.0 (!). To be honest, I did not expect that any recent distribution
> would not come with Kernel 2.4.x, so I didn't even check it. Shame on me ;-)

When woody froze for release the 2.4 kernel was that new, untested and
somewhat flakey kernel of the future, not the old reliable trusted
friend that we know it to be today.  Look back two years from now and
you will see that the current 2.4.20 kernel will be viewed as an old
kernel and who would be using any such ancient thing.  It is all
relative.

> I installed Kernel 2.4.18-k7, but this was not trivial since the
> installation did not generate a valid modules.conf automatically (as
> I would have expected), so I had to manually enter all the modules
> for the machine hardware (like Ethernet, SCSI, sound etc.).

Debian currently does not have any automatic hardware detection.  You
need to know what hardware you have installed and to configure that
hardware in /etc/modules.

The lack of any automatic hardware discovery is a well known and well
thrashed issue with Debian.  The new debian-installer project well
under way today is addressing that issue specifically in addition to
many others.  Please be patient.  It is only an install issue.  It
does not affect daily operation.  I use the computer daily.  But I
installed the software only once.

Also, the file you refer to is not the correct location for your
modules.  You should list those in /etc/modules instead of
/etc/modules.conf.  That was was probably your main problem.  The
/etc/modules.conf file is automatically generated from another set of
files.  You changes may be overwritten in the future.

One would normally either edit /etc/modules and place their list
there, or use the 'modconf' utility to help them do that.  I recommend
'modconf' since it has some safety built it.

> Hopefully this problem will also be fixed with Debian 3.1 ?  I think
> many Linux Newbies will find it difficult to manually figure out
> their hardware configuration.

Yes.

> I also noticed that there is still KDE 2.2.2 included, I think I need to
> generate an image with KDE 3.1 updates for our customers. This might be
> a non-trivial task too.

The same discussion above concerning versions of the kernel applies to
versions of KDE as well.  In this case it is as if the development lab
(kde.org) has released the bits but manufacturing (debian.org) has not
finished packaging, integrating and testing them and the other ten
thousand packages currently in the distribution to the point of
releasing them as the next official stable release.  One must have
patience for rock solid stability.  With such a large distribution
there is a lot going on.

But the bleeding edge is always available.  Install the stable release
and then upgrade your bits to the "today's build" of 'unstable'.
There you will find the very latest versions of most software
packages.  Software in 'unstable' is updated frequently by their
maintainers.  By testing and reporting any bugs or issues found in
those latest packages you will be improving the stability of the next
'stable' release.

For your needs you might wish to try the KNOPPIX image.  It features
both automatic hardware detection and the latest KDE bits.  I highly
recommend it.

  http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

This list debian-cd is really not the right place to be discussing
installation issues.  That is well beyond the issues of the cd.  A
better place to discuss these other topics would be debian-user which
is the user support discussion list for Debian.  If you would be so
kind as to ask your further questions not related to cd's in
debian-user I believe you will find a large helpful user community
there.

Bob


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Re: 3.0r1 DVD ISO jigdo: Myth or Reality?

2003-03-08 Thread Bob Proulx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Are you using a 2.4 kernel? I'm afraid the default kernel is a 2.2 kernel. 
> > Either install a newer one or enter "bf2.4" at the CD boot prompt...
> 
> Yes, you were right - the default kernel ist still 2.2.20 with Debian GNU
> Linux 3.0 (!). To be honest, I did not expect that any recent distribution
> would not come with Kernel 2.4.x, so I didn't even check it. Shame on me ;-)

When woody froze for release the 2.4 kernel was that new, untested and
somewhat flakey kernel of the future, not the old reliable trusted
friend that we know it to be today.  Look back two years from now and
you will see that the current 2.4.20 kernel will be viewed as an old
kernel and who would be using any such ancient thing.  It is all
relative.

> I installed Kernel 2.4.18-k7, but this was not trivial since the
> installation did not generate a valid modules.conf automatically (as
> I would have expected), so I had to manually enter all the modules
> for the machine hardware (like Ethernet, SCSI, sound etc.).

Debian currently does not have any automatic hardware detection.  You
need to know what hardware you have installed and to configure that
hardware in /etc/modules.

The lack of any automatic hardware discovery is a well known and well
thrashed issue with Debian.  The new debian-installer project well
under way today is addressing that issue specifically in addition to
many others.  Please be patient.  It is only an install issue.  It
does not affect daily operation.  I use the computer daily.  But I
installed the software only once.

Also, the file you refer to is not the correct location for your
modules.  You should list those in /etc/modules instead of
/etc/modules.conf.  That was was probably your main problem.  The
/etc/modules.conf file is automatically generated from another set of
files.  You changes may be overwritten in the future.

One would normally either edit /etc/modules and place their list
there, or use the 'modconf' utility to help them do that.  I recommend
'modconf' since it has some safety built it.

> Hopefully this problem will also be fixed with Debian 3.1 ?  I think
> many Linux Newbies will find it difficult to manually figure out
> their hardware configuration.

Yes.

> I also noticed that there is still KDE 2.2.2 included, I think I need to
> generate an image with KDE 3.1 updates for our customers. This might be
> a non-trivial task too.

The same discussion above concerning versions of the kernel applies to
versions of KDE as well.  In this case it is as if the development lab
(kde.org) has released the bits but manufacturing (debian.org) has not
finished packaging, integrating and testing them and the other ten
thousand packages currently in the distribution to the point of
releasing them as the next official stable release.  One must have
patience for rock solid stability.  With such a large distribution
there is a lot going on.

But the bleeding edge is always available.  Install the stable release
and then upgrade your bits to the "today's build" of 'unstable'.
There you will find the very latest versions of most software
packages.  Software in 'unstable' is updated frequently by their
maintainers.  By testing and reporting any bugs or issues found in
those latest packages you will be improving the stability of the next
'stable' release.

For your needs you might wish to try the KNOPPIX image.  It features
both automatic hardware detection and the latest KDE bits.  I highly
recommend it.

  http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

This list debian-cd is really not the right place to be discussing
installation issues.  That is well beyond the issues of the cd.  A
better place to discuss these other topics would be debian-user which
is the user support discussion list for Debian.  If you would be so
kind as to ask your further questions not related to cd's in
debian-user I believe you will find a large helpful user community
there.

Bob


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Re: CD-RW writing problems

2003-02-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert wrote:
> I'm unable to write to my CD-RW.  Below is the output.  I'm using:

This list is really for posting about getting the Debian distribution
on CD and not about problems with a cdrom on Debian.  The place to ask
your question is on debian-user.

But your question has been asked many times there.  Please search the
archives for the answer and you will find it discussed many times and
you won't even have to ask it yourself.  Start here.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200212/msg04993.html

If you have any followups, please post them to debian-user.

Bob


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Re: CD-RW writing problems

2003-02-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert wrote:
> I'm unable to write to my CD-RW.  Below is the output.  I'm using:

This list is really for posting about getting the Debian distribution
on CD and not about problems with a cdrom on Debian.  The place to ask
your question is on debian-user.

But your question has been asked many times there.  Please search the
archives for the answer and you will find it discussed many times and
you won't even have to ask it yourself.  Start here.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200212/msg04993.html

If you have any followups, please post them to debian-user.

Bob



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Re: [job #15092] debian 3.0r1

2003-01-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Marcel Kunath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-09 10:54:05 +1100]:
> 
> If a Debian guru can come up with a way to create a 
> 
> Debian 3.0r0 -> 3.0r1 Update CD
> 
> then we are most happy to supply this disc to our Debian customers.

That would be a useful thing.  I know that I would also like to have
an update CD available.  I have a number of friends with only slow
network access that I supply with Debian updates.  Currently that
means burning a number of CD's for each of them.  An update would
allow only a single CD to incrementally update them.

The possibility of an update CD been discussed briefly on this list
just recently.  I think it will eventually happen.  But from browsing
the list archives I could not see that anyone had committed to making
update CD images available.  But let me second you that I also think
they would be very useful and I would like them as well.

But so far "official" images of 3.0r1, let alone updates, have not
been available yet.  I think most of us have been trying to wait
patiently for official images to appear and are not making any noise
until that happens.  I have seen several "unofficial" images,
however.  All of the Debian web pages still document that 3.0r0 is the
currently official release bits.

Anxious for the "official" images, even though I personally update
across the network regularly.

Bob


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Re: [job #15092] debian 3.0r1

2003-01-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Marcel Kunath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-09 10:54:05 +1100]:
> 
> If a Debian guru can come up with a way to create a 
> 
> Debian 3.0r0 -> 3.0r1 Update CD
> 
> then we are most happy to supply this disc to our Debian customers.

That would be a useful thing.  I know that I would also like to have
an update CD available.  I have a number of friends with only slow
network access that I supply with Debian updates.  Currently that
means burning a number of CD's for each of them.  An update would
allow only a single CD to incrementally update them.

The possibility of an update CD been discussed briefly on this list
just recently.  I think it will eventually happen.  But from browsing
the list archives I could not see that anyone had committed to making
update CD images available.  But let me second you that I also think
they would be very useful and I would like them as well.

But so far "official" images of 3.0r1, let alone updates, have not
been available yet.  I think most of us have been trying to wait
patiently for official images to appear and are not making any noise
until that happens.  I have seen several "unofficial" images,
however.  All of the Debian web pages still document that 3.0r0 is the
currently official release bits.

Anxious for the "official" images, even though I personally update
across the network regularly.

Bob



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Re: creating Debian CD images after jigdo download

2002-12-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Geert & Fatima, Didden - Hassouni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-12 14:57:45 
+0100]:

> However it then says that you can create the CD's using your favorite tool,
> still being a M$ user for the time being we used ROXIO Easy CD creator and
> selected to create 'bootable' CD's..

By selecting 'bootable' before you were actually telling Roxio to
change the bits, which corrupted them.  Don't do that and you should
be okay.

In Roxio go to file, then the pull down menu to "write from image" or
some such.  I can't remember the exact wording and don't have a
working MS machine to check.  But you just want to burn an ISO image
to CD.

The default file type in Roxio will be some format that Roxio likes
but no one uses.  Change the file type to '*.iso' and then select it
to use the iso image you just downloaded.  Tell it to start writing.

My frail memory recalls these steps as the correct proceedure.

Bob


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Re: creating Debian CD images after jigdo download

2002-12-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Geert & Fatima, Didden - Hassouni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-12 14:57:45 +0100]:

> However it then says that you can create the CD's using your favorite tool,
> still being a M$ user for the time being we used ROXIO Easy CD creator and
> selected to create 'bootable' CD's..

By selecting 'bootable' before you were actually telling Roxio to
change the bits, which corrupted them.  Don't do that and you should
be okay.

In Roxio go to file, then the pull down menu to "write from image" or
some such.  I can't remember the exact wording and don't have a
working MS machine to check.  But you just want to burn an ISO image
to CD.

The default file type in Roxio will be some format that Roxio likes
but no one uses.  Change the file type to '*.iso' and then select it
to use the iso image you just downloaded.  Tell it to start writing.

My frail memory recalls these steps as the correct proceedure.

Bob



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Re: Do you guys ever proof read?

2002-07-31 Thread Bob Proulx

Karl M. Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 20:04:30 -0700]:
> Do you guys ever proof read?

Does that mean you are volunteering to do so for the next release?
Many hands make light work.  It is a cooperative effort after all.  I
think a BTS report has already been filed for your particular issue
and it should get fixed or 3.0r1.

Meanwhile, if that is the worst that someone finds to complain about I
think the CD team did a great job.

Bob

Note that I am not affiliated with the CD team in any way and this is
an independent remark.



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Re: CD-Cover f?r Debian (woody - r3.0 r0)

2002-07-28 Thread Bob Proulx

Flex wrote:
> Hier habe ich noch ein CD Cover f?r Debian / WOODY
> http://www.heinschink.at/accounts/ntwfx/various/Linux/cdcovers/

I found that cover very well done.  Thanks for posting it.

Since the .zip (of the .png) files is the same size as the .png I
suggest that you drop the .zip versions.  They don't save you any
space at all and are just likely to confuse someone downloading them.

Also, I thought your page here,

  http://www.heinschink.at/accounts/ntwfx/index/indexh.htm

was a nicer introduction to the work than the raw directory.  In fact
if you were to change the 'download' link, offer 'download png 1.4MB'
plus offer 'download jpg 125kb' then users could easily choose and
that would be a really nice offering.

Thanks
Bob



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