[Fwd: Re: Demographic analysis of debian user's language (was Re:b-f one-liner needs translating]

2002-03-07 Thread Phil Blundell

It would be great if debian-cd could include these files somehow.

p.


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On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 10:33, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:
> Perhaps if you put all the localisation data for each language into a
> separate file that is searched for in the root directory of the
> floppy, then people could download a localisation file separately and
> copy it onto the floppy. It wouldn't then matter so much which
> localisations are included with the standard floppy image. Also, it
> would be possible to add and update localisations without rereleasing
> the floppy image.

The image on the root floppy disk is compressed, which will make it
awkward for users to add extra files there.

I've checked in some changes to the boot-floppies to allow extra
language catalogs to be shipped on the CD.  This is obviously no help to
people who are booting from floppy disk, but it's probably better than
nothing.

For those on debian-boot, the drill is that dbootstrap searches for
extra languages in /.xlp/messages.XX on the CD during program startup. 
Any catalogs it finds are copied into /etc from where LC will pick them
up.  The build process creates an archive xlp.tgz containing the
catalogs for everything in $(langs), and i386-specials/mini-iso.sh knows
how to put it onto the CD.

p.

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Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?

2002-03-01 Thread Phil Blundell

On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:09, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> A good compromise. I suggest two kinds of flags on the CD-ROM:
> 
> .disk/kernel_installable
> .disk/base_installable
> 
> The first marks the disk containing kernel and modules, the second the
> one with the basedebs.

Sounds fine to me.

p.


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Re: Bug#123948: can someone test the patch?

2002-03-01 Thread Phil Blundell

On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 11:56, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Maybe I got the wrong impression, but why do we do all this detection
> and _force_ the user to use that Cd? 

The idea was to reduce the number of questions that the user gets
asked.  Debian's installer has long been notorious for forcing you to
navigate through countless dialogue boxes, usually just accepting the
defaults at every stage.  This is tedious and potentially confusing for
users.

How about a compromise.  If an attractive-looking CD is detected in the
drive, pop up a single dialogue box at the beginning along the lines of
"I see you have a Debian CD-ROM.  Do you want to use this as the source
medium for all the installation files?".  If the user answers yes,
behave as if they had booted with the "cdrom" argument and suppress all
the media-selection menus; if they answer no, prompt as usual.

Also, I am now coming round to the point of view that maybe this
decision should be decoupled from the issue of whether the CD is
"official" or not.  Debian-cd folk, how about adding a new file called
".disk/installable" or some such, whose presence signals that
boot-floppies should treat the CD as an install disk.  That way people
who are creating their own customised disks can make the decision for
themselves rather than having to modify dbootstrap, second-guess its
heuristics, or ask their users to supply boot arguments.

p.


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