Re: problems with debian-security machine ?

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously jason andrade wrote:
> perhaps this isn't exactly the right forum but i'm not sure who
> looks after pandora aka the machine which makes non-US and security
> available via rsync.

That is satie, not pandora

> it's been spitting out "10 users connected full" rsync messages
> for a couple of days and now doesn't appear to be running a
> rsyncd at all, with a connection refused.

It just seems to be very busy. Maybe we can up the limit to 20 users?

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Re: jigo gone missing

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Previously Richard Atterer wrote:
> There's a backup of the files at
> . My uni's
> sysadmins are usually pretty quick - if it isn't fixed soon, I'll make
> www/jigdo-cd/ point to the backup.

Would it make sense to move these to some debian.org machine anyway?
Imho it's kind of silly to have such an essential utility on a 
non-Debian server.

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jigo gone missing

[Wichert Akkerman]

http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ tells me to download jigdo from
http://home.in.tum.de/~atterer/jigdo/, but tje jigdo-lite download
links on that page all point to non-existing files.

Can someone please fix that?

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Re: debian-cd and security mirror

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Yes. I asked Anne Bezemer (who patched debian-cd to support that) to
> document it but he never did it.
> 
> export SECURITY=/mirror/security.debian.org

What does debian-cd use the security mirror for? You might want to know
that the structure for security.debian.org for woody is now very
different (it uses package pools now).

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Re: Bug#149491: dpkg depends hard on working F_SETLK fcntl

[Wichert Akkerman]

Since I don't know the answer to this one I'll cc debian-boot and
debian-cd in the hope somewhere there can answer this.

Wichert.

Previously Paul Stoeber wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 06:43:57PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > Are you running rpc.statd on the client?
> 
> That makes locking work.  Thank you very much.
> 
> 
> statd and lockd aren't on woody_netinst-20020416-powerpc.iso.
> Will they be on the stable woody installation CD?
> Maybe they should because the installer expressly supports
> installation to an NFS root.
> They'll also have to be in basedebs.tar, so that dpkg
> can run after the second boot.  (I just downloaded
> basedebs.tar from ftp.de.debian.org.  They're missing.)
> 
> 
> Let me restate the argument I've got left for my case:
> 
> Some users may want to use an NFS server with broken locking
> when they don't have enough control over it to fix it.
> 
> Reserving one directory name for the lockfile only would make
> that easy (a tiny local filesystem can be mounted there, a ramdisk
> for example), and it would leave dpkg essentially unchanged
> (just "/var/lib/dpkg/lock-dir/lock" or similar
> instead of "/var/lib/dpkg/lock").
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Re: What kernel stuff on CD1? Was Still no TeX in CD#1

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Philip Hands wrote:
> The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
> xdm, xfs & xterm are out.  This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm & kdm
> are on there, and one can survive without xfs, and gnome-terminal is in,
> we could actually live without those, but will the resulting lack of
> x-window-system cause a problem with the tasks?

Breaking X is imho a much worse than getting TeX on CD1. gnome-terminal
is definitely not a replacement for xterm. 

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Re: Still no TeX in CD#1

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> "These days"? Do you think everybody is using w**d, or is there something
> else you can use for writing papers, books, letters, faxes, creating posters?

For scientific documents *TeX is still pretty much the only real
solution, but with scientific community these days is only a minority
of Linux users. And the rest doesn't care about TeX, they'll use
something like abiword. 

I find myself never using *TeX anymore for example, even though it used
to be the only thing I used a couple of years ago. These days I'm using
either docbook for documentation, the always present plain text or
abiword. Together those three cover all my needs.

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Re: Still no TeX in CD#1

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Santiago Vila wrote:
> I believed there was a consensus that the most popular packages would
> be on CD #1. Thanks for replying but my question remains unanswered.

So prove to us that TeX is popular. These days that would surprise
me very much.

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Re: web pages

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Josip Rodin wrote:
> Eh? cdimage.d.o will be redirecting to that when it's all polished up
> (shouldn't be too long now).

Most of the images on the header seem to be missing..

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Re: Redesign of cdimage website

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Richard Atterer wrote:
> over the last days, I've finished the work on the new cdimage website,
> the result can be viewed at . 
> Comments welcome!

I really like the content, but I'ld rather see it having the same
look as the rest of the debian.org sites so we have a consistent
look & feel everywhere.

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Re: Redesign of cdimage website

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Richard Atterer wrote:
> How do people like it? Does it stand any chance of eventually
> replacing ?

I already like it a lot more then the current maze.

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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> What do other people think about that ?

Ditch it.

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Re: JBoss the J2EE application server

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Tobias Frech wrote:
> Would it be possible for me to customize the debian distribution in a way, 
> that after downloading a install disk or burning a install CD they only need 
> to go through the installation process and end up with a ready-to-run 
> application server machine ?

Definitely! You can also modify the installed to automatically install
your application during the initial install.

How exactly this should be done depends on what version of Debian
you want to use. potato has a very different installation procedure
then woody will have, but it has the advantage of being released
already and well supported.

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Re: How do I create a Packages file?

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Justin F. Knotzke wrote:
>   I have done all except create the so called "Packages" file. How do
> I do that?

dpkg-scanpackages or apt-ftparchive.

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Re: question regarding 2.4 kernal release for Debian...

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Ross wrote:
> When will debian release a stable version of the 2.4 kernel ?

Not before 2.4 itself becomes stable.

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Re: Debian 1.3

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Stephen Kasirye wrote:
> I am looking for Debian 1.3 release. I am looking for a Debian CD or
> preferably the Debian 1.3 official CD image.
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.

As far as I know we don't have those CD images online anymore. The
complete archive is still available at our archives server:
ftp://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/Debian-1.3.1/

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Re: official 2.2_rev3 CDs available

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Attila Nagy wrote:
> BTW, wouldn't be wiser to figure out a layout which is compatible with the
> "rsync way" of mirroring?

Not really, rsyncing individual files can't notice packages that moved
from one CD image to another.

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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Nate Duehr wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote:
> > AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source
> > are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. 
> 
> You don't like *any* of the 2.2 series?

Considering he said `in release order' I assume he means 2.0.36,
2.2.17, 2.2.19 and 2.4.2.

Personally the only ones I would use are 2.0.39, 2.2.19 and 2.4.XacY
with X and Y and high as possible.

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Re: "pool"- and "dists"-structure of the current Debian packages mirror

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Otto Wyss wrote:
> Note: While this thread might be interesting for both mailing list,
> please discuss it only in debian-dpkg. Also do a CC to
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" since I'm not subscribed to either list.

This really does not impact dpkg at all so please do not discuss
this on debian-dpkg.

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Re: Rsync and incremental updates on top of Original CDs

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously J.A. Bezemer wrote:
> Ah, indeed! I appear to have a manpage for it, but it isn't mentioned in the
> glibc documentation where I searched initially. But why did they call it
> _f_truncate when in fact it does _not_ use a FILE* stream?!

The kernel knows not about FILE*. Compare it with systemcalls like
fstat, fsync, fdatasync, etc.

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Re: your mail

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Zbigniew Bojko wrote:
> Please send me the address of Debian CD-ROM seller in Poland.
> The address on your Web Page is not actual.

Which address exactly is invalid, and on what page?

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Re: using GRUB

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Uh, well, you mean hda to hdc?  Plus SCSI drives, etc etc.  Oh, ick.
> There must be a better way.

grub uses a different naming scheme for drives: so (hd1) means the
whole first IDE disk (ie /dev/hda).

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Re: improved boot.bat

[Wichert Akkerman]

Slight change in the script:

Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> @echo off
echo Flush any write-cached disk blocks before we leave DOS. 
echo If your system does not use smartdrv an error message will appear;
echo you can safely ignore that.
> smartdrv /c
> 

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Re: md5sum for FreeBSD

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
> May I know where to get md5sum for a FreeBSD system;
> or its source code?

There is source for md5sum in the dpkg sourcetree.

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Re: Package pools, testing, 2.2r2

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Anthony Towns wrote:
> All who're interested: katie (ie, the new dinstall, ie package pools)
> will be rolled out when James has enough time to cope with any unforseen
> problems. Hopefully in the next week or two. "testing" will be rolled out
> shortly afterwards, in all probability.

Do you realize this will break dselect for everyone who uses apt
currently? I suggest you hold off doing this until we see if that
can be fixed.

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Re: Good news on RSYNC issues

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That brings up a dos window with whatever magical fix done.

The `magical' fix is simply that command.com will allocate more
space for the environment. The default is 256 bytes iirc.

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Re: BTS virtual package

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously J.A. Bezemer wrote:
> On
>   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=yes&pkg=cd-images

Try cd-image instead of cd-images.

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Re: [Patch] for new Package format

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:05:17PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> >On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:05:18PM +0200, Michael Schlueter wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> as discribed in the BTS the Package format has changes a bit (Filename is now 
> >> FileName). Here is the Patch to make debian-cd work with this changes:
> >
> >>m/^Filename: (\S+)/m and $file = $1;
> >> +  m/^FileName: (\S+)/m and $file = $1;

Where did this change come from, and what Package file exactly are we
talking about?

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Re: Suggestions for 2.2 r1

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Bernd Hentig wrote:
> We already have 'non-US', so this could disappear then since
> only the "us"-Version of the first Debian CD would not have
> crypto support,

non-US is not just crypto, it also has patented stuff.

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Re: 2.2.17 early access testing version (i386)

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> i386 build of the CVS boot-floppies as of yesterday is available at
> http://auric.debian.org/~aph/bf/2.2.17/>.

Please note that the 2.2.17 kernel is basically ready as well, Alan Cox
is just waiting for Linus to make it official. We should get that
in 2.2.r1 as well..

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Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
>   Just couldn't help but add my $0.02!  For the M$ server products (NT and
> 2000), the initial release is always Service Pack 1.

That is not true. A service pack is a collection of hotfixes and other
(sometimes major) changes. For example the first service pack for win2k
has recently been released, while win2k has been out there for some time
now.

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Re: point release versioning [was Re: dedication]

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Philip Hands wrote:
> Shouldn't that be 2.2 r1?

The first revision will be 2.2r1, but we'll do a second revision
as well at some point.

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Re: TC3 CD#1 images are different sizes on ftp.d.o and cdimage.d.o

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Philip Hands wrote:
> The reason for this split is that ftp.d.o is a lot quicker than
> cdimage.d.o so can produce a full range of CDs in the time it takes
> cdimage to start producing the first, so these images filled a need
> while people were waiting for cdimage.d.o to do it's thing.

We'll probably want to produce a single set for the final release
though.

Wichert.

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TC3 CD images for LWCE

[Wichert Akkerman]

Can someone please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as soon
as i386 and source CD images for TC3 are finished? Bradley kindly
agreed to produce TC3 CDs for us so we can hand them out at LinuxWorld,
but he needs the images quickly seens LinuxWorld isn't very far away..

Also please tell him where he can get them; he has reasonable bandwidth
to cdimage.debian.org and good bandwith to ftp.debian.org at least.

Wichert.

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Re: Updated forcd1

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously J.A. Bezemer wrote:
> forcd1: When we discussed kernel-source not long ago, Raphael said that anyone
> could commit such little changes. When I saw it hadn't been done yet, I did
> it myself.

Forcing new application on CD 1 is not a `little thing'. And if you
do that for applications like aptitude and gnome-apt which very few
people use and are of beta-quality (gnome-apt has a big warning that
it may destroy your system even) I'm temtped to call it bad judgement
even.

> And then, it's CVS, so anyone can see what I changed and why, and undo/modify
> my changes if necessary. (CVS has so many useful features that so few people
> use...)

True, however this late in the release process it's not that difficult
to miss such a change and discover that too late.

Wichert.

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