2.2rev3

2001-11-20 Thread GPS



hello,

I purchased the 3 set debian CD's and the 
configuration is a mess. I go to the configuration section after the 
install and the menu locks up in the X window system Font section.

I cannot make a choice nor proceed further without 
rebooting the system

-GPS



Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-23 Thread Bernd Hentig


  On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote:
   AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source
   are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. All others are
 
  You don't like *any* of the 2.2 series?
 
 it looks like a typo to me
 
 2.0.36, 2.2.17, 2.2.19, 2.4.2

Yeah, sure this was a typo :)
Sorry folks, I was in a hurry and probably hit the keys faster than my 
brain was working - need a CPU upgrade probably ;-)
 
 i am not sure why one would want 2.0.36 or 2.2.17 on cd1.. i would
 have put them on cd3, but that's just my opinion.  from what anne
 originally said though, 10 kernels is certainly getting out of hand
 (and disk space) in a release sense.

Yes. Usually I can't think of any reason to have the kernel sources
of any version other than the installation kernel on the first CD.
My idea was that not too many kernel source trees should be on the
distribution CDs at all since they are just taking space and there
won't be many people using them. 
 
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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (and status of cdimage.d.o)

2001-04-22 Thread phil

On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:15:03AM +1000, jason andrade wrote:

 have debian addressed the alleged file corruption (ext2) issue that
 i heard was present in 2.4.X uptil 2.4.3 ?

Well, given that that seems to be what's been causing cdimage.debian.org
grief recently (I stupidly upgraded to 2.4.3 to see if it would cure
a DMA interrupt error I've been getting on the HPT366 controller)
I'd say the answer to that question was probably "no".

BTW open.hands.com (a.k.a. cdimage.d.o, www.uk.d.o etc.) died rather
more effectively than expected, and is no longer getting past the LILO
"Loading Linux" bit.  I should be able to sort this out before the
end of today (GMT), at which point I'll move /dev/hdc to /dev/hdg, 
which should apparently side-step the issues with the VIA/Athlon combo.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman

Previously Nate Duehr wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote:
  AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source
  are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. 
 
 You don't like *any* of the 2.2 series?

Considering he said `in release order' I assume he means 2.0.36,
2.2.17, 2.2.19 and 2.4.2.

Personally the only ones I would use are 2.0.39, 2.2.19 and 2.4.XacY
with X and Y and high as possible.

Wichert.

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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-22 Thread Nate Duehr

On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:15:03AM +1000, jason andrade wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Nate Duehr wrote:
 
  On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote:
   AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source
   are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. All others are
 
  You don't like *any* of the 2.2 series?
 
 it looks like a typo to me
 
 2.0.36, 2.2.17, 2.2.19, 2.4.2

I noted that after I hit send... hmm.  Heh.
 
 i am not sure why one would want 2.0.36 or 2.2.17 on cd1.. i would
 have put them on cd3, but that's just my opinion.  from what anne
 originally said though, 10 kernels is certainly getting out of hand
 (and disk space) in a release sense.

I haven't looked lately, but I don't think many distros keep around too
many older kernels on the installation media -- they just let people
grab them from their ftp sites.  Newbies don't know how to replace
kernels on boot media if they have a machine that is reluctant to use a
newer kernel, and hopefully the newer kernels actually perform BETTER --
but we all know that doesn't always happen... :-)

 have debian addressed the alleged file corruption (ext2) issue that
 i heard was present in 2.4.X uptil 2.4.3 ?

On that question, I would have no idea.  I would assume the kernel
maintainers would have more info -- the debian-cd crew tries to stick to
their created packages for CD's, definitely.

All the best,

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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-22 Thread jason andrade

On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Nate Duehr wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote:
  AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source
  are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. All others are

 You don't like *any* of the 2.2 series?

it looks like a typo to me

2.0.36, 2.2.17, 2.2.19, 2.4.2

i am not sure why one would want 2.0.36 or 2.2.17 on cd1.. i would
have put them on cd3, but that's just my opinion.  from what anne
originally said though, 10 kernels is certainly getting out of hand
(and disk space) in a release sense.

have debian addressed the alleged file corruption (ext2) issue that
i heard was present in 2.4.X uptil 2.4.3 ?

regards,

-jason


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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (and status of cdimage.d.o)

2001-04-22 Thread phil

On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:43:03AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW open.hands.com (a.k.a. cdimage.d.o, www.uk.d.o etc.) died rather
 more effectively than expected, and is no longer getting past the LILO
 "Loading Linux" bit.  I should be able to sort this out before the
 end of today (GMT), at which point I'll move /dev/hdc to /dev/hdg, 
 which should apparently side-step the issues with the VIA/Athlon combo.

It seems that that was a mis-diagnosis, and what what actually happening
was 2.4.3 not doing the right thing with serial consoles, combined with
me being a bit dim, and not realising that that was why there was no output
after the "Loading Linux".  Doh!

Anyway, the good news is that open is now up and running, using a 2.2.19
kernel, it's not generating the { DriveStatusError BadCRC } messages
on hdc (that seem to be related to the problems it was having), and it's
now running ext3, so should not end up failing to fsck if it does crash
again.

I've run debsums and rsync -c mirrors, without finding any corruption, so
it looks like I'm ready to do a CD run.

The only things I'm doing to the archive prior to making CDs, is deleting
the bulkmail binaries, and adding a link for the mysql source.  If there's
something I'm missing, please tell me about it.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-22 Thread Nate Duehr

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Bernd Hentig wrote:
 AFAIK, the only kernels worth having in either binary or source
 are (in release order) 2.0.36, 2.0.17, 2.0.19, 2.4.2. All others are
 either junk and pretty unstable or useless (at least IMHO).
 So, I've never really seen any use in having ancient sources in 
 the *distribution* cds and I fear things will become worse with
 woody (5 CDs binary installation ?).

You don't like *any* of the 2.2 series?

What have you found to be the problems with them?  I run them on a
number of production machines at work and at home (mostly 2.2.19 now,
but some older).

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2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-19 Thread J.A. Bezemer


On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

 Le Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:16:11AM +0200, Martin Schulze écrivait:
   Also - is there any chance that .iso images or pseudo image
   configurations could be ready _before_ the release is announced - eg
   tonight cdimage.debian.org still has no idea about 2.2r3 - shouldnt .isos
   be part of the release and the release be conditional upon them being done
   ??
  
  Please get in touch with the debian-cd list, they should know about
  cdimage.d.o
 
 No, no, the problem is with you. You install packages in the archive and 4
 hours later you make the announcement. You need to let one day so that
 files propagate to mirrors, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 asking us to generate the new ISO with the newly installed files and let
 another day so that ISO images have a chance to propagate too. And only
 then you should do the announcement.
 
 That said, people who usually create the debian-cd images ? What are you
 doing with 2.2r3 ? Please take care to NOT use the CVS version of
 debian-cd to generate the images (since I've introduced the new stuff for
 signed Release file and so on and it's not yet ready for prime time) but
 rather the last package (or even older ... but not too much). Or you may
 use the latest debian-cd if you take care to remove manually the rules
 *-secured in the Makefile.

Sorry for having been this silent. In the past few days I've spent many hours
on getting debian-cd ready for 2.2 rev3 (issues you mentioned, updated/
redesigned README (matching www.d.o but actually better code) and the
long-promised "make-a-useful-CD1" project which involved lots of test runs and
a new unexclude feature). I'm mostly finished now, a few things still need
some tweaking, then I'll leave it to Phil to generate the new .iso's.

The unexclude will be used to move any number of kernel sources to CDx, x=2;
the source of only 2.2.19 will be on CD1. However because we currently have
10 (!!) kernel sources in potato, it looks like we're going to have a 4th CD
with only 15MB on it. So, unless anyone objects, I think we'd better NOT
have the sources of 2.2.10 and possibly 2.2.12 on any CD (which still leaves
us 2.2.13, 2.2.15, 2.2.17, 2.2.18pre21, 2.2.18, 2.2.19pre17 and 2.2.19 -- and
2.0.36, 2.0.38 of course).


Regards,
  Anne Bezemer
(who still needs to process lots of mails to these and other lists :( )


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Re: 2.2rev3 CDs (was Re: Stable Release plan)

2001-04-19 Thread Philip Hands

"J.A. Bezemer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry for having been this silent. In the past few days I've spent
 many hours on getting debian-cd ready for 2.2 rev3 (issues you
 mentioned, updated/ redesigned README (matching www.d.o but actually
 better code) and the long-promised "make-a-useful-CD1" project which
 involved lots of test runs and a new unexclude feature). I'm mostly
 finished now, a few things still need some tweaking, then I'll leave
 it to Phil to generate the new .iso's.

Fair enough --- I'll get on to it later this evening, when I get home.

 The unexclude will be used to move any number of kernel sources to
 CDx, x=2; the source of only 2.2.19 will be on CD1. However because
 we currently have 10 (!!) kernel sources in potato, it looks like
 we're going to have a 4th CD with only 15MB on it. So, unless anyone
 objects, I think we'd better NOT have the sources of 2.2.10 and
 possibly 2.2.12 on any CD (which still leaves us 2.2.13, 2.2.15,
 2.2.17, 2.2.18pre21, 2.2.18, 2.2.19pre17 and 2.2.19 -- and 2.0.36,
 2.0.38 of course).

Sounds like a good plan.  Although I expect that means that it will
take several attempts to get them to fit, since this always seems to
be the case if you try to fill CDs to the limit :-/

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debian-cd-for-2.2r3 ready (Re: 2.2rev3 CDs)

2001-04-19 Thread J.A. Bezemer


On 19 Apr 2001, Philip Hands wrote:

 "J.A. Bezemer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Sorry for having been this silent. In the past few days I've spent
  many hours on getting debian-cd ready for 2.2 rev3 (issues you
  mentioned, updated/ redesigned README (matching www.d.o but actually
  better code) and the long-promised "make-a-useful-CD1" project which
  involved lots of test runs and a new unexclude feature). I'm mostly
  finished now, a few things still need some tweaking, then I'll leave
  it to Phil to generate the new .iso's.
 
 Fair enough --- I'll get on to it later this evening, when I get home.

Finished. My copy of debian-cd for 2.2 rev3 is available at
http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/debian-cd-22r3/

I hope I can find time tomorrow to check the stuff into CVS, when I've read
enough docs to safely try branching off the Makefile. That's why I'm posting
it on the web for the moment. 

On the same location is the typescript and the interesting parts of the
working directory of my final test run. You can use it to check if your images
make any sense (esp. md5sums.txt). My resulting images:

-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   666783744 Apr 19 23:56 potato-i386-1.raw
-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   678498304 Apr 19 23:57 potato-i386-1_NONUS.raw
-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   665352192 Apr 19 23:59 potato-i386-2.raw
-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   605020160 Apr 20 00:00 potato-i386-3.raw
-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   641851392 Apr 20 00:08 potato-src-1.raw
-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   665235456 Apr 20 00:09 potato-src-1_NONUS.raw
-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   671942656 Apr 20 00:11 potato-src-2.raw
-rw-r--r--1 costar   costar   664254464 Apr 20 00:13 potato-src-3.raw

AFAIK these images are correct in every aspect, except the non-US Contents.gz
files.

  The unexclude will be used to move any number of kernel sources to
  CDx, x=2; the source of only 2.2.19 will be on CD1. However because
  we currently have 10 (!!) kernel sources in potato, it looks like
  we're going to have a 4th CD with only 15MB on it. So, unless anyone
  objects, I think we'd better NOT have the sources of 2.2.10 and
  possibly 2.2.12 on any CD (which still leaves us 2.2.13, 2.2.15,
  2.2.17, 2.2.18pre21, 2.2.18, 2.2.19pre17 and 2.2.19 -- and 2.0.36,
  2.0.38 of course).
 
 Sounds like a good plan.  Although I expect that means that it will
 take several attempts to get them to fit, since this always seems to
 be the case if you try to fill CDs to the limit :-/

I actually had to exclude four kernels, 2.2.10, 2.2.12, 2.2.13 and 2.2.15,
to get rid of the 4th Source CD. For that, I've also added a source-exclude
feature.
(BTW, this is already set up in the CONF.sh of my package, you should only
have to change the various source/destination directories.)

Before running, cd dists/potato/main/source/misc/ in the FTP archive and
  ln -s ../../../../../pool/main/m/mysql/mysql_3.22.32.orig.tar.gz .

And maybe it's better to wait for a good version of the non-US Contents.gz;
I already sent a report to debian-devel but it might help if more people
do ;-)


Regards,
  Anne Bezemer
(who's off to bed right now, for he hasn't had very much sleep the past few
days...)


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