Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-23 Thread Laurent LEVIER

Oh sorry guys,

I did not get the cc. My mistake...

"if I would know I would not come".
The faults are volontary. It is coming from a child mouth in "The War of the Buttons".

I was saying I was discovering there was a script that gets all data and create a 
bootable ISO image.
Much better to get "C which seems to be not yet available...

So I will use this method instead of waiting for...CD mirrors to be up2date.

Finally, I was considering I was trustable to provide this Debian source for my 
company, as I head the security department :-)

Thanks guys

At 11:51 22/04/2001 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>So sprach Laurent LEVIER am Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0200:
>> Raph,
>> 
>> "si j'aurais su j'aurais pas venu" :-)...
>> 
>> Il y a donc un script qui indique tout l'arbre a prendre, et qui genere une image 
>ISO bootable...
>> 
>> Super...Je vais exploiter cette methode plutot que d'attendre la dispo chez les 
>miroirs.
>> Je serais de toute facons accrediter a fournir la debian, vu que c'est pour ma 
>boite seulement, et que je gere le departement securite, je dois donc etre un peu 
>trustable :-)
>
>Could you please say that again in German/English?
>
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Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-22 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Laurent LEVIER am Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 08:02:27PM +0200:
> Gentlemen,
> 
> You should really consider being more opened for Debian downloads...
> 
> The 2.2rev3 is not available on ANY of the listed sites, whatever the format is.

Uh?  The ISO images aren't available, that's for sure.  But the individual
packages are.  For example, ftp.debian.org has it ->
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/mirrors/debian/dists/Debian2.2r3

When will the ISO images (or even just the .list files) be available?

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Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:24:50AM +0200, Laurent LEVIER écrivait:
> Ok, so for guys waiting for ISO images, it would be great to have a
> simple script to create them.

How what a good idea !! It's called debian-cd. :) However when you build
the CDs yourself you're not providing official debian CDs.

BTW, Phil Hands has had some (hardware/kernel driver) troubles on the
computer on which he should have generated the images, that explains why
they are not yet available.

> This way, at the moment when the distribution is made, it is 5 minutes
> to create the new ISO image...

The script take more time than 5 minutes to run.

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Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-22 Thread phil

On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:00:33AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:24:50AM +0200, Laurent LEVIER écrivait:
> > Ok, so for guys waiting for ISO images, it would be great to have a
> > simple script to create them.
> 
> How what a good idea !! It's called debian-cd. :) However when you build
> the CDs yourself you're not providing official debian CDs.
> 
> BTW, Phil Hands has had some (hardware/kernel driver) troubles on the
> computer on which he should have generated the images, that explains why
> they are not yet available.
> 
> > This way, at the moment when the distribution is made, it is 5 minutes
> > to create the new ISO image...
> 
> The script take more time than 5 minutes to run.

For all architectures, on a reasonably quick machine, probably a minimum of
6 hours (that would need a quicker machine than I've got ;-), and that's
assuming that the archive is in a clean state, which it currently is not.

While it's true that open.hands.com has been crashing a lot recently, that
is not the main reason I've not built images.  I've actually succeeded in
doing 2 & 2 halfs of CD production runs, between crashes, but the fact
that the non-US/Contents file was broken, and that the package pool links
for a few packages were wrong, means that the images were not 100% right,
and while it might be OK to release the main archive with minor flaws,
I'm of the oppinion that we should not release the CDs until all known
fixable bugs are fixed, because downloading a load of CD images takes a
long time, and if you then find that you're missing the one thing you
were really intreested in, you're not going to be happy.  When it comes
to people that want to press CDs in quantity (which is the whole motivation
behind the "official" CD images, after all) the reasons not to release
are magnified yet further.

If CD production were a trivial 5 minute thing, then I wouldn't bother
with making official images.  The fact is that it isn't, which is why
it's worth doing them, and as long as I'm doing them you're going to
have to put up with my anal "100% right, or not at all" attitude.

If that's not to your liking, go ahead, get a copy of debian-cd and
make your own --- it's not hard really.  It takes a certain amount of
attention to detail, and several hours, but it's not difficult.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-22 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Laurent LEVIER am Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0200:
> Raph,
> 
> "si j'aurais su j'aurais pas venu" :-)...
> 
> Il y a donc un script qui indique tout l'arbre a prendre, et qui genere une image 
>ISO bootable...
> 
> Super...Je vais exploiter cette methode plutot que d'attendre la dispo chez les 
>miroirs.
> Je serais de toute facons accrediter a fournir la debian, vu que c'est pour ma boite 
>seulement, et que je gere le departement securite, je dois donc etre un peu trustable 
>:-)

Could you please say that again in German/English?

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Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-22 Thread Laurent LEVIER

Raph,

"si j'aurais su j'aurais pas venu" :-)...

Il y a donc un script qui indique tout l'arbre a prendre, et qui genere une image ISO 
bootable...

Super...Je vais exploiter cette methode plutot que d'attendre la dispo chez les 
miroirs.
Je serais de toute facons accrediter a fournir la debian, vu que c'est pour ma boite 
seulement, et que je gere le departement securite, je dois donc etre un peu trustable 
:-)

Merci

@+/L

At 11:00 22/04/2001 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>Le Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:24:50AM +0200, Laurent LEVIER écrivait:
>> Ok, so for guys waiting for ISO images, it would be great to have a
>> simple script to create them.
>
>How what a good idea !! It's called debian-cd. :) However when you build
>the CDs yourself you're not providing official debian CDs.
>
>BTW, Phil Hands has had some (hardware/kernel driver) troubles on the
>computer on which he should have generated the images, that explains why
>they are not yet available.
>
>> This way, at the moment when the distribution is made, it is 5 minutes
>> to create the new ISO image...
>
>The script take more time than 5 minutes to run.
>
>Cheers,
>-- 
>Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/
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Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-22 Thread Laurent LEVIER

Ok, so for guys waiting for ISO images, it would be great to have a simple script to 
create them.

I mean a script that provides the list of files/trees, and the (I guess) mkisofs 
command with appropriate parameters and associated files to build automagically the 
ISO image.

This way, at the moment when the distribution is made, it is 5 minutes to create the 
new ISO image...

Thanks

Brgrds/Laurent

At 00:53 22/04/2001 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>So sprach Laurent LEVIER am Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 08:02:27PM +0200:
>> Gentlemen,
>> 
>> You should really consider being more opened for Debian downloads...
>> 
>> The 2.2rev3 is not available on ANY of the listed sites, whatever the format is.
>
>Uh?  The ISO images aren't available, that's for sure.  But the individual
>packages are.  For example, ftp.debian.org has it ->
>ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/mirrors/debian/dists/Debian2.2r3
>
>When will the ISO images (or even just the .list files) be available?
>
>Alexander Skwar
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Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date

2001-04-21 Thread Laurent LEVIER

Gentlemen,

You should really consider being more opened for Debian downloads...

The 2.2rev3 is not available on ANY of the listed sites, whatever the format is.

I wish to download it to provide our Intranet users (more than 10 000) on our FTP site.

Can you help ?

Thanks

Brgrds

Laurent LEVIER 
IT Systems & Networks Security Specialist

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Security Incidents Response Team Manager

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