Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:26:52AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I tried to use the arphic chinese truetype fonts in application such as crxvt or netscape.The application will hang... and after I tried to kill the application,the X windows exit abnormally and I find that the xfs-xtt is killed.What's the problem? As a general rule, when you are reporting a problem, please be more specific and tell us the details. In particular: * What platform? (i386?) How much RAM? How much free memory? etc. * Are you using all-Debian packages? Or did you roll-your-own? * What versions of Debian packages, esp. ttf-arphic-*, xfonts-arphic-*, xfs-xtt, libxfont-xtt, xlib6g, freetype2, and your Linux kernel, etc. * potato, woody, or Debian 2.1? * What were the exact commands you used to run crxvt and friends? * Was the xfs-xtt killed _before_ or _after_ you tried to use any of the arphic fonts? * Have you been able to use any other TrueType fonts sucessfully with xfs-xtt? Arphic fonts work great on my Cyrix P166 system with 64MB RAM, Linux kernel 2.2.15, and XFree86 3.3.6, running on a Debian 2.2 (potato) system. If you have xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.10 installed, I suggest that you try xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.11, which is currently sitting in Incoming. You may find the following files at: http://incoming.debian.org/ ce1d1c504eec03707be8fcc7fb80f4b1 4706 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp_2.11_all.deb 64133d9bb9d9f62c6e01a881e7124b89 4710 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-bkai00mp_2.11_all.deb e8a9e765fb44b1d4ea4974323e9eb4eb 4704 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp_2.11_all.deb 53219e29435081cd2356297418be7668 4710 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-gkai00mp_2.11_all.deb Here's the changelog: xfonts-arphic (2.11) frozen unstable; urgency=low * To Release Manager: As the changes are minimal, and it would reduce the overhead and improve the stability of the X server and X font server, please include it in potato. * Removed the number of aliases for the fonts. There were 648 aliases for each single Chinese TTF font, most of them just for circumventing the font size glitch in Netscape 4.x. No wonder xlsfonts was so slow. Mea culpa. :-) The number of aliases has been reduced to 88. * [README.Debian]: Added a note to tell the users to use -default-* instead of -arphic-* in Netscape 4.x for the Chinese TrueType fonts to be displayed properly. -- Anthony Fok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 13 May 2000 02:54:17 -0600 This might help if you have, say, less than 32MB. You may also check your /etc/X11/xfs/config and /etc/X11/XF86Config files. I've attached the former with this message. As for XF86Config, make sure you have the line FontPath unix/:7100 and all the other direct FontPaths removed or commented out, so the fontpaths listed in in xfs/config are not repeated in XF86Config. Please let me know if the above remedies work or not. Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
Thanks for your information. :-) On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:27:24AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: * What platform? (i386?) How much RAM? How much free memory? etc. IBM Thinkpad notebook 390E 64MB RAM Celdron 336Mhz 64MB RAM. That looks good. :-) * Are you using all-Debian packages? Or did you roll-your-own? yes.. all the packages is updated to the newest version in the frozen archive. Good. * What were the exact commands you used to run crxvt and friends? crxvt: crxvt-Big5 -pt Root -fg white -bg black Did you set the font in ~/.Xresource? By default, crxvt uses the 16x15 taipei16 bitmap font (from ETen?) from the xfonts-intl-chinese package. Does that (taipei16) work? For your information, I am currently using: #!/bin/sh export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 xcin crxvt -ls \ -fm '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-big5-0' \ -fn '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1' \ -im xcin -pt OverTheSpot -bg black -fg white -geometry +0+0 also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. It works fine here. Hmm... I wonder what the problem is... * Was the xfs-xtt killed _before_ or _after_ you tried to use any of the arphic fonts? It seem when the application use the fonts,the application hang... killing the application make the xfs-xtt killed...thus the X exit abnormally too.. * Have you been able to use any other TrueType fonts sucessfully with xfs-xtt? up to now,I don't have any other truetype fonts..maybe I will try it later.. If you happen to have some fonts from Microsoft Windows, say times.ttf and arial.ttf, try them out and see if they can be displayed properly. If you have xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.10 installed, I suggest that you try xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.11, which is currently sitting in Incoming. You may find the following files at: I''m using xfonts-arphic 2.10 now...and ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9.. ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9? You meant 2.10-1, right? :-) Please download xfonts-arphic-_2.11. 2.10 added way too many aliases (648 of them), and those extraneous aliases have been removed. Now, only 88 aliases. That should reduce xfs-xtt / Xserver's overhead. Please try it out and let me know if it solves the problem. Use wget or snarf to get the following files: http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bkai00mp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gkai00mp_2.11_all.deb XF86Config: Section Files RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath unix/:7100 EndSection Looks good. :-) /etc/X11/xfs/config: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType Please remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese from the list. This might solve the problem. Also, please do a ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese and let me know what's in there. If all it contains is fonts.dir and/or fonts.alias, then you may safely do a rm -rf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese too. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese is a left-over from the old xfonts-cmex24-big5p package, which is now superceded by the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package. The old package installed fonts in its own /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese directory, but that didn't comply with Debian's X policy, so in the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package, the Chinese fonts were moved to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc instead. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese was left behind by mistake. See http://bugs.debian.org/54994 for more information. Oh wait, I almost forgot! One more thing: the deferglyphs = all line MUST /be in etc/X11/xfs/config, and the font cache control lines are recommended /too: deferglyphs = all # font cache control, specified in KB cache-hi-mark = 2048 cache-low-mark = 1433 As well, in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, make sure you add the option -deferglyphs 16, for example: :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 If my hypothesis is correct, your Xserver/xfs-xtt did not hang/crash, but rather, it was trying to load and render the ENTIRE Chinese TTF font with 14000+ glyphs (characters) into the memory. That would take _quite_ a while, and might even crash it. That's where the deferglyphs option come in: to tell both xfs-xtt and the Xserver to load only the fonts it needs. That's why you need that option in both /etc/X11/xfs/config and /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. So, to summerize, please do
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:26:52AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I tried to use the arphic chinese truetype fonts in application such as crxvt or netscape.The application will hang... and after I tried to kill the application,the X windows exit abnormally and I find that the xfs-xtt is killed.What's the problem? As a general rule, when you are reporting a problem, please be more specific and tell us the details. In particular: * What platform? (i386?) How much RAM? How much free memory? etc. IBM Thinkpad notebook 390E 64MB RAM Celdron 336Mhz * Are you using all-Debian packages? Or did you roll-your-own? yes.. * What versions of Debian packages, esp. ttf-arphic-*, xfonts-arphic-*, xfs-xtt, libxfont-xtt, xlib6g, freetype2, and your Linux kernel, etc. * potato, woody, or Debian 2.1? all the packages is updated to the newest version in the frozen archive. * What were the exact commands you used to run crxvt and friends? crxvt: crxvt-Big5 -pt Root -fg white -bg black also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. * Was the xfs-xtt killed _before_ or _after_ you tried to use any of the arphic fonts? It seem when the application use the fonts,the application hang... killing the application make the xfs-xtt killed...thus the X exit abnormally too.. * Have you been able to use any other TrueType fonts sucessfully with xfs-xtt? up to now,I don't have any other truetype fonts..maybe I will try it later.. Arphic fonts work great on my Cyrix P166 system with 64MB RAM, Linux kernel 2.2.15, and XFree86 3.3.6, running on a Debian 2.2 (potato) system. If you have xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.10 installed, I suggest that you try xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.11, which is currently sitting in Incoming. You may find the following files at: I''m using xfonts-arphic 2.10 now...and ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9.. http://incoming.debian.org/ ce1d1c504eec03707be8fcc7fb80f4b1 4706 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp_2.11_all.deb 64133d9bb9d9f62c6e01a881e7124b89 4710 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-bkai00mp_2.11_all.deb e8a9e765fb44b1d4ea4974323e9eb4eb 4704 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp_2.11_all.deb 53219e29435081cd2356297418be7668 4710 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-gkai00mp_2.11_all.deb Here's the changelog: xfonts-arphic (2.11) frozen unstable; urgency=low * To Release Manager: As the changes are minimal, and it would reduce the overhead and improve the stability of the X server and X font server, please include it in potato. * Removed the number of aliases for the fonts. There were 648 aliases for each single Chinese TTF font, most of them just for circumventing the font size glitch in Netscape 4.x. No wonder xlsfonts was so slow. Mea culpa. :-) The number of aliases has been reduced to 88. * [README.Debian]: Added a note to tell the users to use -default-* instead of -arphic-* in Netscape 4.x for the Chinese TrueType fonts to be displayed properly. -- Anthony Fok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 13 May 2000 02:54:17 -0600 This might help if you have, say, less than 32MB. You may also check your /etc/X11/xfs/config and /etc/X11/XF86Config files. I've attached the former with this message. As for XF86Config, make sure you have the line FontPath unix/:7100 Here's my part of XF86Config and /etc/X11/xfs/config XF86Config: Section Files RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath unix/:7100 EndSection /etc/X11/xfs/config: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType and all the other direct FontPaths removed or commented out, so the fontpaths listed in in xfs/config are not repeated in XF86Config. Please let me know if the above remedies work or not. Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: Thanks for your information. :-) On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:27:24AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: * What platform? (i386?) How much RAM? How much free memory? etc. IBM Thinkpad notebook 390E 64MB RAM Celdron 336Mhz 64MB RAM. That looks good. :-) * Are you using all-Debian packages? Or did you roll-your-own? yes.. all the packages is updated to the newest version in the frozen archive. Good. * What were the exact commands you used to run crxvt and friends? crxvt: crxvt-Big5 -pt Root -fg white -bg black Did you set the font in ~/.Xresource? By default, crxvt uses the 16x15 taipei16 bitmap font (from ETen?) from the xfonts-intl-chinese package. Does that (taipei16) work? For your information, I am currently using: #!/bin/sh export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 xcin crxvt -ls \ -fm '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-big5-0' \ -fn '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1' \ -im xcin -pt OverTheSpot -bg black -fg white -geometry +0+0 also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. um...still don't work...before I try to kill the crxvt... and run top and see that XF86_SVGA is working heavily..(9X.X% CPU usage...)xfs-xtt is still here before I kill the application... It works fine here. Hmm... I wonder what the problem is... * Was the xfs-xtt killed _before_ or _after_ you tried to use any of the arphic fonts? It seem when the application use the fonts,the application hang... killing the application make the xfs-xtt killed...thus the X exit abnormally too.. * Have you been able to use any other TrueType fonts sucessfully with xfs-xtt? up to now,I don't have any other truetype fonts..maybe I will try it later.. If you happen to have some fonts from Microsoft Windows, say times.ttf and arial.ttf, try them out and see if they can be displayed properly. How do I install the M$ truetype font? In redhat i have used a program called mkttfdir(may spell wrong)...to make font.alias and fonts.dir.. but now seem don't have that program If you have xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.10 installed, I suggest that you try xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.11, which is currently sitting in Incoming. You may find the following files at: I''m using xfonts-arphic 2.10 now...and ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9.. ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9? You meant 2.10-1, right? :-) Please download xfonts-arphic-_2.11. 2.10 added way too many aliases (648 of them), and those extraneous aliases have been removed. Now, only 88 aliases. That should reduce xfs-xtt / Xserver's overhead. Please try it out and let me know if it solves the problem. Use wget or snarf to get the following files: http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bkai00mp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gkai00mp_2.11_all.deb I have tried to installed xfonts-arphic-gbsn* and xfonts-arphic-bsmi*.. (can't install bkai and bsmi coz havn't installed their truetype fonts..) but seem...the same thing occur... XF86Config: Section Files RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath unix/:7100 EndSection Looks good. :-) /etc/X11/xfs/config: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType Please remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese from the list. This might solve the problem. Also, please do a ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese and let me know what's in there. If all it contains is fonts.dir and/or fonts.alias, then you may safely do a rm -rf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese too. yes..it just remain fonts.dir and fonts.alias...but deleting them and remove the path in /etc/X11/xfs/config doesn't help...:(... /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese is a left-over from the old xfonts-cmex24-big5p package, which is now superceded by the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package. The old package installed fonts in its own /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese directory, but that didn't comply with Debian's X policy, so in the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package, the Chinese fonts were moved to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc instead. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese was left behind by mistake. See http://bugs.debian.org/54994 for more information. Oh wait, I almost forgot! One more thing: the deferglyphs = all line MUST /be in etc/X11/xfs/config,
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:39:56PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 xcin crxvt -ls \ -fm '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-big5-0' \ -fn '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1' \ -im xcin -pt OverTheSpot -bg black -fg white -geometry +0+0 also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. um...still don't work...before I try to kill the crxvt... and run top and see that XF86_SVGA is working heavily..(9X.X% CPU usage...)xfs-xtt is still here before I kill the application... Hmm... not sure what XF86_SVGA is doing. However, I do know that XF86_SVGA or any other Xserver would use lots of CPU_time if it can't talk to xfs-xtt. If you happen to have some fonts from Microsoft Windows, say times.ttf and arial.ttf, try them out and see if they can be displayed properly. How do I install the M$ truetype font? In redhat i have used a program called mkttfdir(may spell wrong)...to make font.alias and fonts.dir.. but now seem don't have that program As root, run: # apt-get install fttools However, in Debian, mkttfdir may not do what you want, especially in X font directories used by Debian packages. So, instead of using mkttfdir, You may try the following instead: 1. Save the attached file (in this message). 2. Login as root. 3. Save that file as: /etc/X11/fonts/TrueType/microsoft-truetype.scale 4. Copy some MS Window non-CJK (iso-8859-1) *.TTF files (arial, times, etc.) to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType 5. Run: # cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType # /usr/sbin/update-fonts-scale # mkfontdir 6. Stop both xdm and xfs-xtt, then restart both. 7. Test the fonts. I have tried to installed xfonts-arphic-gbsn* and xfonts-arphic-bsmi*.. (can't install bkai and bsmi coz havn't installed their truetype fonts..) but seem...the same thing occur... Did you restart both xfs-xtt and xdm? # /etc/init.d/xdm stop; /etc/init.d/xfs-xtt stop # /etc/init.d/xfs-xtt start; /etc/init.d/xdm start I find that these line have already added b4. You are running X from xdm, and not by $ startx right? If you use startx, you'll have to run it like $ startx -deferglyph 16 too. So, to summerize, please do the following three things: 1. Install the new (and lighter) xfonts-arphic-*_2.11*.deb 2. Removing the old/unused fontpath in /etc/X11/xfs/config 3. Add the deferglyphs option in both /etc/X11/xfs/config and /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. tried all that...seem don't work...:(. (my XF86_SVGA is still using 98.x% CPU before I end the message).. Check these files: /var/log/xdm.log /var/log/xfs.log ~/.xsession-errors and look for clues. Well, I think I have run out of ideas. Hope the last few remedies above would do the trick. Good luck! Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/ 20 arialbd.ttf -Monotype-Arial-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdanaz.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdanai.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdana.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 timesi.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 timesbi.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 timesbd.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 times.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 impact.ttf -Monotype-Impact-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 couri.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 courbi.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 courbd.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 cour.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 cour.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 comicbd.ttf -Microsoft-Comic Sans MS-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 comic.ttf -Microsoft-Comic Sans MS-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 ariblk.ttf -Monotype-Arial Black-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 ariali.ttf -Monotype-Arial-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 arialbi.ttf -Monotype-Arial-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 arial.ttf -Monotype-Arial-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdanab.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 symbol.ttf -Microsoft-Symbol-normal-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:17:02AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right? If you use startx, you'll have to run it like $ startx -deferglyph 16 Yes..I havn't used xdm and use startx to start XWin and if I use startx -deferglyph 16 ... from the .xsession-error .. it say invalid number of argument(2)... seem the -deferglyph 16 not recognized. but then I tried xdm and it work maybe misspelling the argument -deferglyph 16 Yes, indeed; I forgot an s. Try, instead: $ startx -deferglyphs 16 Actually I have tried startx -deferglyphs 16 also...but still not right... We usually use xdm in Debian as opposed to using startx in Red Hat. If you usually go into X11 right after you boot up your computer, you might want to use xdm by default too. :-)
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 11:59:17AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have tried startx -deferglyphs 16 also...but still not right... You're right. /usr/bin/X11/startx doesn't seem to accept such command-line options. Maybe .xinitrc or other files are needed. I don't know. See man startx or study the source of /usr/bin/X11/startx (it's a sh script). Or better yet, use xdm. :-) Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
Anthony Fok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 11:59:17AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually I have tried startx -deferglyphs 16 also...but still not right...
You're right. /usr/bin/X11/startx doesn't seem to accept such command-line
options. Maybe .xinitrc or other files are needed. I don't know.
See man startx or study the source of /usr/bin/X11/startx (it's a sh
script). Or better yet, use xdm. :-)
If you wish to supply options to the X server via startx, you can do
startx -- -whatever
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Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:59:17 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 50191914 50191914 50191914 On Tue, 16 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: 50191914 50191914 On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:17:02AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 50191914right? If you use startx, you'll have to run it like 50191914 50191914$ startx -deferglyph 16 50191914 50191914 Yes..I havn't used xdm and use startx to start XWin 50191914 and if I use startx -deferglyph 16 ... 50191914 from the .xsession-error .. 50191914 it say invalid number of argument(2)... 50191914 seem the -deferglyph 16 not recognized. 50191914 but then I tried xdm and it work 50191914 maybe misspelling the argument -deferglyph 16 50191914 50191914 Yes, indeed; I forgot an s. Try, instead: 50191914 50191914 $ startx -deferglyphs 16 50191914 50191914 Actually I have tried startx -deferglyphs 16 also...but still not right... 50191914 We usually use xdm in Debian as opposed to using startx in Red Hat. 50191914 If you usually go into X11 right after you boot up your computer, you might 50191914 want to use xdm by default too. :-) 50191914 Maybe this... startx -- -deferglyphs 16 Liu, Hong-Hsing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: Thanks for your information. :-) On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:27:24AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: * What platform? (i386?) How much RAM? How much free memory? etc. IBM Thinkpad notebook 390E 64MB RAM Celdron 336Mhz 64MB RAM. That looks good. :-) * Are you using all-Debian packages? Or did you roll-your-own? yes.. all the packages is updated to the newest version in the frozen archive. Good. * What were the exact commands you used to run crxvt and friends? crxvt: crxvt-Big5 -pt Root -fg white -bg black Did you set the font in ~/.Xresource? By default, crxvt uses the 16x15 taipei16 bitmap font (from ETen?) from the xfonts-intl-chinese package. Does that (taipei16) work? For your information, I am currently using: #!/bin/sh export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 xcin crxvt -ls \ -fm '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-big5-0' \ -fn '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1' \ -im xcin -pt OverTheSpot -bg black -fg white -geometry +0+0 also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. um...still don't work...before I try to kill the crxvt... and run top and see that XF86_SVGA is working heavily..(9X.X% CPU usage...)xfs-xtt is still here before I kill the application... It works fine here. Hmm... I wonder what the problem is... * Was the xfs-xtt killed _before_ or _after_ you tried to use any of the arphic fonts? It seem when the application use the fonts,the application hang... killing the application make the xfs-xtt killed...thus the X exit abnormally too.. * Have you been able to use any other TrueType fonts sucessfully with xfs-xtt? up to now,I don't have any other truetype fonts..maybe I will try it later.. If you happen to have some fonts from Microsoft Windows, say times.ttf and arial.ttf, try them out and see if they can be displayed properly. How do I install the M$ truetype font? In redhat i have used a program called mkttfdir(may spell wrong)...to make font.alias and fonts.dir.. but now seem don't have that program If you have xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.10 installed, I suggest that you try xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.11, which is currently sitting in Incoming. You may find the following files at: I''m using xfonts-arphic 2.10 now...and ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9.. ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9? You meant 2.10-1, right? :-) Please download xfonts-arphic-_2.11. 2.10 added way too many aliases (648 of them), and those extraneous aliases have been removed. Now, only 88 aliases. That should reduce xfs-xtt / Xserver's overhead. Please try it out and let me know if it solves the problem. Use wget or snarf to get the following files: http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bkai00mp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gkai00mp_2.11_all.deb I have tried to installed xfonts-arphic-gbsn* and xfonts-arphic-bsmi*.. (can't install bkai and bsmi coz havn't installed their truetype fonts..) but seem...the same thing occur... XF86Config: Section Files RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath unix/:7100 EndSection Looks good. :-) /etc/X11/xfs/config: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType Please remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese from the list. This might solve the problem. Also, please do a ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese and let me know what's in there. If all it contains is fonts.dir and/or fonts.alias, then you may safely do a rm -rf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese too. yes..it just remain fonts.dir and fonts.alias...but deleting them and remove the path in /etc/X11/xfs/config doesn't help...:(... /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese is a left-over from the old xfonts-cmex24-big5p package, which is now superceded by the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package. The old package installed fonts in its own /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese directory, but that didn't comply with Debian's X policy, so in the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package, the Chinese fonts were moved to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc instead. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese was left behind by mistake. See http://bugs.debian.org/54994 for more information. Oh wait, I almost forgot! One more thing: the deferglyphs = all line MUST /be in etc/X11/xfs/config,
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:39:56PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 xcin crxvt -ls \ -fm '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-big5-0' \ -fn '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1' \ -im xcin -pt OverTheSpot -bg black -fg white -geometry +0+0 also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. um...still don't work...before I try to kill the crxvt... and run top and see that XF86_SVGA is working heavily..(9X.X% CPU usage...)xfs-xtt is still here before I kill the application... Hmm... not sure what XF86_SVGA is doing. However, I do know that XF86_SVGA or any other Xserver would use lots of CPU_time if it can't talk to xfs-xtt. If you happen to have some fonts from Microsoft Windows, say times.ttf and arial.ttf, try them out and see if they can be displayed properly. How do I install the M$ truetype font? In redhat i have used a program called mkttfdir(may spell wrong)...to make font.alias and fonts.dir.. but now seem don't have that program As root, run: # apt-get install fttools However, in Debian, mkttfdir may not do what you want, especially in X font directories used by Debian packages. So, instead of using mkttfdir, You may try the following instead: 1. Save the attached file (in this message). 2. Login as root. 3. Save that file as: /etc/X11/fonts/TrueType/microsoft-truetype.scale 4. Copy some MS Window non-CJK (iso-8859-1) *.TTF files (arial, times, etc.) to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType 5. Run: # cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType # /usr/sbin/update-fonts-scale # mkfontdir 6. Stop both xdm and xfs-xtt, then restart both. 7. Test the fonts. I have tried to installed xfonts-arphic-gbsn* and xfonts-arphic-bsmi*.. (can't install bkai and bsmi coz havn't installed their truetype fonts..) but seem...the same thing occur... Did you restart both xfs-xtt and xdm? # /etc/init.d/xdm stop; /etc/init.d/xfs-xtt stop # /etc/init.d/xfs-xtt start; /etc/init.d/xdm start I find that these line have already added b4. You are running X from xdm, and not by $ startx right? If you use startx, you'll have to run it like $ startx -deferglyph 16 too. So, to summerize, please do the following three things: 1. Install the new (and lighter) xfonts-arphic-*_2.11*.deb 2. Removing the old/unused fontpath in /etc/X11/xfs/config 3. Add the deferglyphs option in both /etc/X11/xfs/config and /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. tried all that...seem don't work...:(. (my XF86_SVGA is still using 98.x% CPU before I end the message).. Check these files: /var/log/xdm.log /var/log/xfs.log ~/.xsession-errors and look for clues. Well, I think I have run out of ideas. Hope the last few remedies above would do the trick. Good luck! Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/ 20 arialbd.ttf -Monotype-Arial-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdanaz.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdanai.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdana.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 timesi.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 timesbi.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 timesbd.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 times.ttf -Monotype-Times New Roman-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 impact.ttf -Monotype-Impact-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 couri.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 courbi.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 courbd.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 cour.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 cour.ttf -Monotype-Courier New-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 comicbd.ttf -Microsoft-Comic Sans MS-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 comic.ttf -Microsoft-Comic Sans MS-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 ariblk.ttf -Monotype-Arial Black-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 ariali.ttf -Monotype-Arial-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 arialbi.ttf -Monotype-Arial-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 arial.ttf -Monotype-Arial-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 verdanab.ttf -Microsoft-Verdana-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 symbol.ttf -Microsoft-Symbol-normal-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:39:56PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 xcin crxvt -ls \ -fm '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-big5-0' \ -fn '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1' \ -im xcin -pt OverTheSpot -bg black -fg white -geometry +0+0 also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. um...still don't work...before I try to kill the crxvt... and run top and see that XF86_SVGA is working heavily..(9X.X% CPU usage...)xfs-xtt is still here before I kill the application... Hmm... not sure what XF86_SVGA is doing. However, I do know that XF86_SVGA or any other Xserver would use lots of CPU_time if it can't talk to xfs-xtt. If you happen to have some fonts from Microsoft Windows, say times.ttf and arial.ttf, try them out and see if they can be displayed properly. How do I install the M$ truetype font? In redhat i have used a program called mkttfdir(may spell wrong)...to make font.alias and fonts.dir.. but now seem don't have that program As root, run: # apt-get install fttools However, in Debian, mkttfdir may not do what you want, especially in X font directories used by Debian packages. So, instead of using mkttfdir, You may try the following instead: 1. Save the attached file (in this message). 2. Login as root. 3. Save that file as: /etc/X11/fonts/TrueType/microsoft-truetype.scale 4. Copy some MS Window non-CJK (iso-8859-1) *.TTF files (arial, times, etc.) to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType 5. Run: # cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType # /usr/sbin/update-fonts-scale # mkfontdir 6. Stop both xdm and xfs-xtt, then restart both. 7. Test the fonts. I may try that later... You are running X from xdm, and not by $ startx right? If you use startx, you'll have to run it like $ startx -deferglyph 16 Yes..I havn't used xdm and use startx to start XWin and if I use startx -deferglyph 16 ... from the .xsession-error .. it say invalid number of argument(2)... seem the -deferglyph 16 not recognized. but then I tried xdm and it worke maybe misspelling the argument -deferglyph 16
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:17:02AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right? If you use startx, you'll have to run it like $ startx -deferglyph 16 Yes..I havn't used xdm and use startx to start XWin and if I use startx -deferglyph 16 ... from the .xsession-error .. it say invalid number of argument(2)... seem the -deferglyph 16 not recognized. but then I tried xdm and it work maybe misspelling the argument -deferglyph 16 Yes, indeed; I forgot an s. Try, instead: $ startx -deferglyphs 16 We usually use xdm in Debian as opposed to using startx in Red Hat. If you usually go into X11 right after you boot up your computer, you might want to use xdm by default too. :-) Anyway, I am glad that the problem is solved. :-) Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:26:52AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I tried to use the arphic chinese truetype fonts in application such as crxvt or netscape.The application will hang... and after I tried to kill the application,the X windows exit abnormally and I find that the xfs-xtt is killed.What's the problem? As a general rule, when you are reporting a problem, please be more specific and tell us the details. In particular: * What platform? (i386?) How much RAM? How much free memory? etc. IBM Thinkpad notebook 390E 64MB RAM Celdron 336Mhz * Are you using all-Debian packages? Or did you roll-your-own? yes.. * What versions of Debian packages, esp. ttf-arphic-*, xfonts-arphic-*, xfs-xtt, libxfont-xtt, xlib6g, freetype2, and your Linux kernel, etc. * potato, woody, or Debian 2.1? all the packages is updated to the newest version in the frozen archive. * What were the exact commands you used to run crxvt and friends? crxvt: crxvt-Big5 -pt Root -fg white -bg black also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. * Was the xfs-xtt killed _before_ or _after_ you tried to use any of the arphic fonts? It seem when the application use the fonts,the application hang... killing the application make the xfs-xtt killed...thus the X exit abnormally too.. * Have you been able to use any other TrueType fonts sucessfully with xfs-xtt? up to now,I don't have any other truetype fonts..maybe I will try it later.. Arphic fonts work great on my Cyrix P166 system with 64MB RAM, Linux kernel 2.2.15, and XFree86 3.3.6, running on a Debian 2.2 (potato) system. If you have xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.10 installed, I suggest that you try xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.11, which is currently sitting in Incoming. You may find the following files at: I''m using xfonts-arphic 2.10 now...and ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9.. http://incoming.debian.org/ ce1d1c504eec03707be8fcc7fb80f4b1 4706 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp_2.11_all.deb 64133d9bb9d9f62c6e01a881e7124b89 4710 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-bkai00mp_2.11_all.deb e8a9e765fb44b1d4ea4974323e9eb4eb 4704 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp_2.11_all.deb 53219e29435081cd2356297418be7668 4710 x11 optional xfonts-arphic-gkai00mp_2.11_all.deb Here's the changelog: xfonts-arphic (2.11) frozen unstable; urgency=low * To Release Manager: As the changes are minimal, and it would reduce the overhead and improve the stability of the X server and X font server, please include it in potato. * Removed the number of aliases for the fonts. There were 648 aliases for each single Chinese TTF font, most of them just for circumventing the font size glitch in Netscape 4.x. No wonder xlsfonts was so slow. Mea culpa. :-) The number of aliases has been reduced to 88. * [README.Debian]: Added a note to tell the users to use -default-* instead of -arphic-* in Netscape 4.x for the Chinese TrueType fonts to be displayed properly. -- Anthony Fok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 13 May 2000 02:54:17 -0600 This might help if you have, say, less than 32MB. You may also check your /etc/X11/xfs/config and /etc/X11/XF86Config files. I've attached the former with this message. As for XF86Config, make sure you have the line FontPath unix/:7100 Here's my part of XF86Config and /etc/X11/xfs/config XF86Config: Section Files RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath unix/:7100 EndSection /etc/X11/xfs/config: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType and all the other direct FontPaths removed or commented out, so the fontpaths listed in in xfs/config are not repeated in XF86Config. Please let me know if the above remedies work or not. Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-LingCivil and Environmental Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]University of Alberta, Canada Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp -- http://www.olvc.ab.ca/
Re: problem using arphic chinese truetype fonts
Thanks for your information. :-) On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:27:24AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2000, Anthony Fok wrote: * What platform? (i386?) How much RAM? How much free memory? etc. IBM Thinkpad notebook 390E 64MB RAM Celdron 336Mhz 64MB RAM. That looks good. :-) * Are you using all-Debian packages? Or did you roll-your-own? yes.. all the packages is updated to the newest version in the frozen archive. Good. * What were the exact commands you used to run crxvt and friends? crxvt: crxvt-Big5 -pt Root -fg white -bg black Did you set the font in ~/.Xresource? By default, crxvt uses the 16x15 taipei16 bitmap font (from ETen?) from the xfonts-intl-chinese package. Does that (taipei16) work? For your information, I am currently using: #!/bin/sh export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 xcin crxvt -ls \ -fm '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-big5-0' \ -fn '-Arphic-AR PL Mingti2L Big5-medium-r-normal--24-0-0-0-c-0-iso8859-1' \ -im xcin -pt OverTheSpot -bg black -fg white -geometry +0+0 also,for netscape,I choose to use the Alphic Fonts for Traditional Chinese and it hang too.. It works fine here. Hmm... I wonder what the problem is... * Was the xfs-xtt killed _before_ or _after_ you tried to use any of the arphic fonts? It seem when the application use the fonts,the application hang... killing the application make the xfs-xtt killed...thus the X exit abnormally too.. * Have you been able to use any other TrueType fonts sucessfully with xfs-xtt? up to now,I don't have any other truetype fonts..maybe I will try it later.. If you happen to have some fonts from Microsoft Windows, say times.ttf and arial.ttf, try them out and see if they can be displayed properly. If you have xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.10 installed, I suggest that you try xfonts-arphic-00?p_2.11, which is currently sitting in Incoming. You may find the following files at: I''m using xfonts-arphic 2.10 now...and ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9.. ttf-arphic-xxx 2.10-9? You meant 2.10-1, right? :-) Please download xfonts-arphic-_2.11. 2.10 added way too many aliases (648 of them), and those extraneous aliases have been removed. Now, only 88 aliases. That should reduce xfs-xtt / Xserver's overhead. Please try it out and let me know if it solves the problem. Use wget or snarf to get the following files: http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bsmi00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-bkai00mp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gbsn00lp_2.11_all.deb http://incoming.debian.org/xfonts-arphic-gkai00mp_2.11_all.deb XF86Config: Section Files RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath unix/:7100 EndSection Looks good. :-) /etc/X11/xfs/config: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType Please remove /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese from the list. This might solve the problem. Also, please do a ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese and let me know what's in there. If all it contains is fonts.dir and/or fonts.alias, then you may safely do a rm -rf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese too. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese is a left-over from the old xfonts-cmex24-big5p package, which is now superceded by the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package. The old package installed fonts in its own /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese directory, but that didn't comply with Debian's X policy, so in the new xfonts-cmex-big5p package, the Chinese fonts were moved to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc instead. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese was left behind by mistake. See http://bugs.debian.org/54994 for more information. Oh wait, I almost forgot! One more thing: the deferglyphs = all line MUST /be in etc/X11/xfs/config, and the font cache control lines are recommended /too: deferglyphs = all # font cache control, specified in KB cache-hi-mark = 2048 cache-low-mark = 1433 As well, in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, make sure you add the option -deferglyphs 16, for example: :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 If my hypothesis is correct, your Xserver/xfs-xtt did not hang/crash, but rather, it was trying to load and render the ENTIRE Chinese TTF font with 14000+ glyphs (characters) into the memory. That would take _quite_ a while, and might even crash it. That's where the deferglyphs option come in: to tell both xfs-xtt and the Xserver to load only the fonts it needs. That's why you need that option in both /etc/X11/xfs/config and /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. So, to summerize, please do
