Re: Bug#680668: tasksel: Input methods for chinese - (Was: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.)

2019-01-31 文章 Holger Wansing
Hi,

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz  wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> > On Jan 12, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Yao Wei (魏銘廷)  wrote:
> > 
> > or we can follow task-chinese-s-desktop and use fcitx instead of ibus in
> > task-chinese-t-desktop:
> > 
> > fcitx,
> > fcitx-chewing,
> > fcitx-table,
> > im-config,
> > fonts-arphic-ukai,
> > fonts-arphic-uming,
> > fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.
> > fonts-noto-cjk,
> > libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
> > libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
> > firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
> > poppler-data
> 
> I haven’t yet understood why people are moving to fcitx. I have tried it 
> myself after it was automatically installed on my openSUSE machine to replace 
> iBus and found it completely unusable. I didn’t even manage to get any input 
> languages added.
> 
> I am using iBus for writing Japanese and I consider it the superior and 
> simpler-to-use solution.
> 
> Is there anything that fcitx is supposed to do better than iBus?

I cannot judge on fcitx, but it was stated that GNOME3 has built-in support
for iBus, so we have that in any case.
The question "fcitx or scim" is just sort of a fallback.


Holger


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Re: tasksel: Input methods for chinese - (Was: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.)

2019-01-13 文章 Holger Wansing
Hi,

"Yao Wei (魏銘廷)"  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > On Jan 12, 2019, at 16:35, Holger Wansing  wrote:
> > 
> > And for traditional Chinese:
> > 
> > Package: task-chinese-t-desktop
> > Architecture: all
> > Description: Traditional Chinese desktop
> > This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.
> > Depends: ${misc:Depends},
> > Recommends:
> > scim,
> > scim-chewing,
> > scim-gtk-immodule,
> > im-config,
> > fonts-arphic-ukai,
> > fonts-arphic-uming,
> > # seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.
> > fonts-noto,
> > fonts-noto-cjk,
> > libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
> > libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
> > firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
> > # poppler-data is needed to display
> > # Chinese on poppler applications.
> > poppler-data
> > 
> > Is this working so far, or should things be improved, to close this bug?
> 
> Currently, the following set is recommended (for GNOME3 desktop) instead
> of the ones above, because current GNOME3 has native support on ibus
> (and probably fcitx):
> 
> ibus,
> ibus-chewing,
> ibus-table,
> im-config,
> fonts-arphic-ukai,
> fonts-arphic-uming,
> fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.
> fonts-noto-cjk,
> libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
> libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
> firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
> poppler-data
> 
> or we can follow task-chinese-s-desktop and use fcitx instead of ibus in
> task-chinese-t-desktop:
> 
> fcitx,
> fcitx-chewing,
> fcitx-table,
> im-config,
> fonts-arphic-ukai,
> fonts-arphic-uming,
> fonts-noto, # this seems to be unnecessary, but not really sure.
> fonts-noto-cjk,
> libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
> libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
> firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
> poppler-data
> 
> Other input methods like gcin and hime are also available, but I seldom
> see people using SCIM.

So, for the input method question, I would propose to skip SCIM and move to 
fcitx as in zh_CN.

Any objections or advocates?


Holger


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tasksel: Input methods for chinese - (Was: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.)

2019-01-12 文章 Holger Wansing
Hi all,

I stumbled over this 5 years old bug regarding input methods for Chinese.

Could someone comment on how the status is here?
What input methods are needed these days?


Currently we have for simplified Chinese:

Package: task-chinese-s-desktop
Architecture: all
Description: Simplified Chinese desktop
 This task localises the desktop in Simplified Chinese.
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
Recommends:
# Input method stuff
im-config,
fcitx,
fcitx-sunpinyin,
fcitx-googlepinyin,
fcitx-table-wubi,
# Fonts
fonts-arphic-ukai,
fonts-arphic-uming,
fonts-noto,
fonts-noto-cjk,
# Software help and localization
libreoffice-l10n-zh-cn,
libreoffice-help-zh-cn,
firefox-esr-l10n-zh-cn | firefox-l10n-zh-cn,
# Dictionary
goldendict,
# poppler-data is needed to display
# Chinese on poppler applications.
poppler-data



And for traditional Chinese:

Package: task-chinese-t-desktop
Architecture: all
Description: Traditional Chinese desktop
 This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
Recommends:
scim,
scim-chewing,
scim-gtk-immodule,
im-config,
fonts-arphic-ukai,
fonts-arphic-uming,
# seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.
fonts-noto,
fonts-noto-cjk,
libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
firefox-esr-l10n-zh-tw | firefox-l10n-zh-tw,
# poppler-data is needed to display
# Chinese on poppler applications.
poppler-data



Is this working so far, or should things be improved, to close this bug?

Thanks
Holger

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Re: Weblate service for debian-installer translations in the pipeline -- NOW ONLINE

2017-11-21 文章 Holger Wansing
Hi,

Boyuan Yang <073p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Holger,
> 
> It would be great if you could add zh_CN translation onto Weblate as well. We 
> are happy to cooperate via weblate. (Many zh_CN contributors are not DD thus 
> it's difficult for us to commit into VCS directly)
> 
> CC-ing zh_TW translators: are you interested in moving zh_TW d-i translation 
> onto Weblate?

Done. Thanks

Holger


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