Bug#2086: installation bugs/inadequacies

1996-01-03 Thread Thomas Netter
Hello Debian debuggers,

I gave my first try to Debian after installing Slackware
systems for nearly 2 years. Although I did prefer the Debian directory
structure and help files I remain rather disappointed with the rest.
The following applies to my trial with v0.93R6 on a 133MHz, 32Mb PCI
with EIDE HD machine.

* The base disks do not contain vi. This is unacceptable.

* I definitely did not read all READMEs but, well, I had dd the debian
1440 base disks directly without gunzipping them beforehand. Debian
was not able to recognize them :-(

* Debian did not recognize my D-Link DE-530CT ethernet card with the
  de-4x5 driver (Slackware has no problem with this).

* Ahhh, I had left out the PPP option and the whole system stayed
  hanging at boot-up trying to initialise a serial connection. Debian
is silly...

* Debian should check for the existence and show its contents to the
  user of /etc/init.d/network before updating. Debian appended data to
the file and screwed things up...

* Debian should ask from the start what keyboard I use and react
  accordingly . (Hint: Slackware does that, why not Debian?)

* It was not possible to format a diskette using the installation
  program :-(

Overall: I haven't been much further than base installation (I hoped I
could ftp the rest of Debian to the root directory before going
on). The installation program interface looks nice and clean but has a
long way to go before being as convenient as Slackware's Setup.

Cheers,

-T.Netter
CNRS National Center for Scientific Research, France



Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-03 Thread Juergen Menden
Raul Miller wrote lately:
> 
> Ian Murdock:
>I doubt there'll be a substantial number of architecture-neutral
>packages; we can either copy or link them into all of the trees.
> 
> I suppose this depends on what you mean by substantial...  Here's a
> list of packages that appear to be architecture-neutral, by cursory
> examination on my system.
> 
any package which needs to be compiled is of course not arch-independent.
on my system here (sunos, not debian ;-)) at least the following are 
partially compiled:

> ii  dvips5.58f 2TeX DVI-driver for Postscript
> ii  fort77 1.6 1An f2c front end to make it look like a 
> compile
> ii  makeidx   2.12  Makeindex, a general purpose index processor
> ii  metafont  2.71 2Metafont - TeX's font engine
> ii  xdvi  1.8f 2A TeX DVI-previewer for X11

the following is even in the source not arch-independent:
> ii  syslinux  1.20 0Boot disk creator.

of the following i don't know (now) which files are included.
some files which i call auxilary files (eg the string pool) 
are also arch-dependent, but they might not be included in this
package.
> ii  mflib  1.0 5Auxiliary files to run Metafont
> ii  texlib 1.0 4Auxiliary Files to run TeX

bye
jjm

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Bug#2085: /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs Capname definition questioned

1996-01-03 Thread Bill Mitchell

PACKAGE: ncurses3.0
VERSION: 1.9.8a-3

I noted some problems in the ae.rc file in the ae-493-9.deb
package I just uploaded after rebuilding it and several other
packages for ncurses3.0 compatability.  In checking into this,
I came across an apparent problem with /usr/lib/terminfo/l/linux.

In /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/us.map, I see the following:

keycode  14 = Delete   Delete
control keycode  14 = BackSpace
alt keycode  14 = Meta_Delete
and:
keycode  83 = KP_Period
altgr   control keycode  83 = Boot
control alt keycode  83 = Boot
and:
keycode 111 = Remove
altgr   control keycode 111 = Boot
control alt keycode 111 = Boot
and:
string Remove = "\033[3~"

Keycode 14 is produced by the key I'd call "backspace".
Keycode 83 is produced by the Keypad Period (also DEL) key.
Keycode 111 is produced by the Delete key.

I have no problem with the Keycode 83 and 111 keys, but I do
have a problem with the Keycode 14 key.

On initial login with no special stty setup done, "stty -a"
reports that the special char for erase is set to ^?.  That
works OK, and is compatable with the above.  Pressing the
"backspace" key deletes one char to the left.

However, "infocmp linux" reports that kbs=^H.  Considering the
Keycode 14 assignments, it's necessary to press either Control-H
or Control-Backspace for a program using terminfo with TERM=linux
to see the kbs Capname code.

It seems reasonable to me that pressing just the backspace key
without the control key should produce the kbs Capname code.
This suggests that either us.map (and, probably *.map) should
be changed or that /usr/lib/terminfo/linux should be changed.
Since the keytable maps impact much more than terminfo, it
looks to me as if /usr/lib/terminfo/linux should be changed
from kbs=^H to kbs=^?.

Or am I missing something which should be obvious to me?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)




Bug#2084: BUG: time conversion in trn

1996-01-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
Hello,

  there is a bug in trn, also present in the upstream version.
By now most people will have discovered it as it started on
1 Januari. There is a bug in the NNTP time conversion which
causes trn to think there are a lot of new newsgroups every
time it starts up.

I've fixed it for now - the real fix would be to use the
ANSI mktime() function instead.

I think it is the package maintainers task to report this to
Wayne Davidson?

--- nntp.c.ORIG Tue Jan  2 23:29:37 1996
+++ nntp.c  Wed Jan  3 11:23:53 1996
@@ -319,7 +319,7 @@
 for (month--; month; month--)
day += maxdays[month];

-ss = year-1970) * 365 + (year-1968)/4 + day - 1) * 24L + hh) * 60
+ss = year-1970) * 365 + (year-1969)/4 + day - 1) * 24L + hh) * 60
  + mm) * 60 + ss;

 return ss;
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sysvinit-2.58-1 uploaded [elf]

1996-01-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
Date: 02 Jan 96 22:58 UT
Source: sysvinit
Binary: sysvinit 
Version: 2.58-1
Description:
 sysvinit: System-V-like Init.
Priority: Medium
Changes:
 New Maintainer
 New upstream version (well, this _is_ the upstream version)
 .deb binaries built as ELF
 sulogin included
Files:
 -rw-r--r--   1 miquels  staff   77366 Jan  2 22:20 sysvinit-2.58-1.tar.gz
 -rw-r--r--   1 root staff   45775 Jan  2 22:10 sysvinit-2.58-1.deb
 e581101e4a5cd6611c4acd9f61e2c336  sysvinit-2.58-1.tar.gz
 f043a8af4d51cb0ae486b5a4c13fda25  sysvinit-2.58-1.deb

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Bug#2083: machine hangs when ftping large file

1996-01-03 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

The problem is due to your Intel Etherexpress. That card is _evil_. They are
to slow for fast LANs and get out of sync. I tried to use one (given as a
loan) for some months last year, There were zillions of similar bug reports
on comp.os.linux.networking.

While I agree that this answer is unsatisfactory as the system shouldn't
hang, all I can recommend is to simply get a new card. I switched to a
supercheap NE2000 clone that can be had for 30-35 US. And I have no problem
at all. Not one byte lost.

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Bug#2069: GNU last doesn't use ut_addr

1996-01-03 Thread Marek Michalkiewicz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I have reported this to the upstream maintainer. He promised me new acct code
> (last is part of acct) about six months ago, so don't hold your breath.

How about using last from util-linux?  It has the standard BSD copyright,
there are no patent issues that I know of, it knows about ut_addr, and
even comes with a man page :-).

Is the GNU last better?  Why?

Regards,

Marek



Bug#2069: GNU last doesn't use ut_addr

1996-01-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>   Marek> Is the GNU last better?  Why?
>
> We went through this before when I split last from the acct package to have a
> single last package for the /base/ section. Some people where proposing to
> use the BSD one, others recommended to keep the GNU last, and so we did. Take
> your pick. The discussion should be in the mailing list list archive.

There is a last with the GNU copyright in sysvinit. It isn't compiled
and installed by default, but it is small and fast.

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Bug#2083: machine hangs when ftping large file

1996-01-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman

>The network card is an Intel Etherexpress 16.

This is the problem right here.

The Intel driver, when confronted with a large file being transferred
over a local subnet on a fast (P5) system, will spool a zillion
messages to your syslog (as the errors mount) and then fall over.

I have verified this with both Slackware and Debian.

Solution: Get a new Ethernet card, or a slower machine.  Something
like the BOCA BocaLan PCI with the AMD Lance is nice.

Mike.
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Re: Bug#2083: machine hangs when ftping large file

1996-01-03 Thread Jeff Noxon
> Solution: Get a new Ethernet card, or a slower machine.  Something
> like the BOCA BocaLan PCI with the AMD Lance is nice.

Beware: the BocaLan PCI cards have a design flaw which can cause big
problems as well.  The Allied Telesyn PCI card uses the same chip but is
unaffected.  I'd also _highly_ recommend the DEC PCI cards, and also
the Kingston PCI cards.  The Kingston cards use the DEC ethernet chip,
work with the DE4X5 driver, and cost $60-$70.  Not bad for 1MB/sec
transfers.

Jeff



Bug#2069: GNU last doesn't use ut_addr

1996-01-03 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
  Miquel>  There is a last with the GNU copyright in sysvinit. It isn't
  Miquel> compiled and installed by default, but it is small and fast.

That sounds good to me. As your sysvinit package is part of every Debian
installation, we could use this 'last' binary and drop the last package
derived from acct.

Comments, anyone?

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Bug#2069: GNU last doesn't use ut_addr

1996-01-03 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Marek Michalkiewicz writes:
  Marek>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Dirk> I have reported this to the upstream maintainer. He promised me new
  Dirk> acct code (last is part of acct) about six months ago, so don't hold
  Dirk> your breath.
  Marek>  How about using last from util-linux?  It has the standard BSD
  Marek> copyright, there are no patent issues that I know of, it knows about
  Marek> ut_addr, and even comes with a man page :-).

The usual answer: if you want something that isn't there, you will have to
package it yourself.

  Marek> Is the GNU last better?  Why?

We went through this before when I split last from the acct package to have a
single last package for the /base/ section. Some people where proposing to
use the BSD one, others recommended to keep the GNU last, and so we did. Take
your pick. The discussion should be in the mailing list list archive.

--
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Bug#2087: ppmforge seg faults

1996-01-03 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Package: pbmplus
Version: 10dec91 Rev 2

ppmforge -stars produces an image which appears to be truncated, then
  stops with a Segmentation fault error.

Example:
% ppmforge -stars 0 > junk
ppmforge: planet: -seed 1357751156 -dimension 2.40 -power 1.20 -mesh 256
ppmforge: -inclination 18 -hour 12 -ice 0.40 -glaciers 0.75
ppmforge: -stars 0 -saturation 125.
Segmentation fault

This error appears to be independent of the numeric option given to
stars.  That is, the program also segfaults with "-stars 100".

If one then attempts to show the output image with 'xv', the result is
an error message "junk:  file appears to be truncated".  Despite this,
xv succeeds in showing that part of the image which is not truncated (which is
98% of it).

Two other options fail in the same way:
ppmforge -clouds
ppmforge -planet

The portion of the image which is being truncated can be illustrated
fairly dramatically using:
ppmforge -clouds | xv -root -quit -

On the other hand, this succeeds:
ppmforge -stars
Interestingly, this is the only one of the options which produces
only black and white output.

This system has:
===
ii  base0.93.6 13   Debian Base System Miscellaneous Files
ii  image   1.2.13 5Linux kernel binary image.
ii  ldso1.7.10 1The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilities
ii  libc4.6.27 6The Linux C library.
ii  pbmplus10dec91 2An extended portable bitmap toolkit.
ii  xlib 3.1.2 2XFree86 3.1.2 shared libraries.
ii  xs3  3.1.2 1XFree86 3.1.2 S3 server.
ii  xv   3.10a 1Interactive image display for the X Window Syst
===

Susan Kleinmann
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Bug#2085: usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs Capname definition questioned

1996-01-03 Thread Bruce Perens
In my ncurses program with keypad() and meta() TRUE, I think backspace
came through as key code 127, and DEL came through as the symbolic key
name KEY_DC. I think this supports your argument, but I can't say I've
looked at this at all deeply.

Bruce
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Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-03 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

[This goes to debian-devel only.]

  Raul Miller writes:
  Raul> It does look like dvips was superceeded by some other package, and
  Raul> that it did originally have some executables in it. 

Nils switched to the upstream convention of reflecting the 'k' for Karl
Berry's kpathsea in the package name.

I had moaned about this weeks ago. You have to manually delete dvips after
installing dvipsk, xdvi after xdvik etc. A "Conflicts:" in debian.control
might have helped here. Or a new "Replaces:" field.

  Raul> /usr/bin/fort77 is a perl script, the only other things I see in this
  Raul> package are a man page and a copyright statement.  Since I have f2c
  Raul> on my system as a separate package, I'd guess that fort77 has also
  Raul> been superceeded...

Nope. f2c is a pain as far as the interface is concerned. fort77 is a pretty
little perl beauty that gives it an f77-like interface so that you can
seamlessly use Makefiles that assume you have f77. (I also linked it to f77.)

[...]

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Bug#2083: machine hangs when ftping large file

1996-01-03 Thread John Larkin
> unaffected.  I'd also _highly_ recommend the DEC PCI cards, and also
> the Kingston PCI cards.  The Kingston cards use the DEC ethernet chip,
> work with the DE4X5 driver, and cost $60-$70.  Not bad for 1MB/sec
> transfers.

I've a dirt-cheep (ie, I got it for free) NE2000 clone with a UMC chip on
it.  Over unloaded ethernet, I can send at about 1200-1300 k/sec (the
theoretical max of ethernet), but only recieve at 500 or so (can't win em
all, I guess).  I've a P-120, and the card is 16 bit ISA.


- John Larkin



dpkg Replaces: field (was Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories)

1996-01-03 Thread Chris Fearnley
'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:'
>
>  Raul Miller writes:
>  Raul> It does look like dvips was superceeded by some other package, and
>  Raul> that it did originally have some executables in it. 
>
>Nils switched to the upstream convention of reflecting the 'k' for Karl
>Berry's kpathsea in the package name.
>
>I had moaned about this weeks ago. You have to manually delete dvips after
>installing dvipsk, xdvi after xdvik etc. A "Conflicts:" in debian.control
>might have helped here. Or a new "Replaces:" field.

Yes, this seems to me a good idea.  Conflicts involves too much
administrator intervention.  Ian, can we have this feature in dpkg?

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Bug#2089: lrzsz hangs

1996-01-03 Thread birkholz
Package: lrzsz
Version: 0.11

If the connection closes while lrz is downloading a file, lrz will hang.
This happens because the maintainer of the package commented out all of the
calls to signal().  I fixed the declarations of the signal handlers instead.

I'll append my patches.  Thanks in advance for integrating them.  I would
offer to take over the package, but I don't really use it and don't have
time to read the source code of dpkg/dselect.  (Is there any documentation
yet?)

Matt Birkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key ID = 74305425
Key Fingerprint = B3 34 FB 3E 3C FE E8 57  AA B4 B2 95 A7 C0 1E AF
*** lrz.c.~1~   Sun Jul 17 08:29:48 1994
--- lrz.c   Sat Dec  9 00:36:51 1995
***
*** 131,143 
  #include "zm.c"

  int tryzhdrtype=ZRINIT;   /* Header type to send corresponding to Last rx 
close */
!
! alrm()
  {
!   longjmp(tohere, -1);
  }

  /* called by signal interrupt or terminate to clean things up */
  bibi(n)
  {
if (Zmodem)
--- 131,148 
  #include "zm.c"

  int tryzhdrtype=ZRINIT;   /* Header type to send corresponding to Last rx 
close */
! #ifdef LINUX
! void
! #endif
! alrm(int signum)
  {
!   longjmp(tohere, signum);
  }

  /* called by signal interrupt or terminate to clean things up */
+ #ifdef LINUX
+ void
+ #endif
  bibi(n)
  {
if (Zmodem)
***
*** 240,246 
}
vfile("%s %s for %s\n", Progname, VERSION, OS);
mode(1);
! #ifndef LINUX
if (signal(SIGINT, bibi) == SIG_IGN) {
signal(SIGINT, SIG_IGN); signal(SIGKILL, SIG_IGN);
}
--- 245,251 
}
vfile("%s %s for %s\n", Progname, VERSION, OS);
mode(1);
!
if (signal(SIGINT, bibi) == SIG_IGN) {
signal(SIGINT, SIG_IGN); signal(SIGKILL, SIG_IGN);
}
***
*** 248,254 
signal(SIGINT, bibi); signal(SIGKILL, bibi);
}
signal(SIGTERM, bibi);
! #endif
if (wcreceive(npats, patts)==ERROR) {
exitcode=0200;
canit();
--- 253,259 
signal(SIGINT, bibi); signal(SIGKILL, bibi);
}
signal(SIGTERM, bibi);
!
if (wcreceive(npats, patts)==ERROR) {
exitcode=0200;
canit();
***
*** 574,582 
fprintf(stderr, "Readline:TIMEOUT\n");
return TIMEOUT;
}
! #ifndef LINUX
signal(SIGALRM, alrm); alarm(n);
! #endif
Lleft=read(iofd, cdq=linbuf, Readnum);
alarm(0);
if (Verbose > 5) {
--- 579,587 
fprintf(stderr, "Readline:TIMEOUT\n");
return TIMEOUT;
}
!
signal(SIGALRM, alrm); alarm(n);
!
Lleft=read(iofd, cdq=linbuf, Readnum);
alarm(0);
if (Verbose > 5) {
*** lsz.c.~1~   Sun Jul 17 08:29:57 1994
--- lsz.c   Sat Dec  9 00:46:35 1995
***
*** 145,150 
--- 145,153 
  jmp_buf intrjmp;  /* For the interrupt on RX CAN */

  /* called by signal interrupt or terminate to clean things up */
+ #ifdef LINUX
+ void
+ #endif
  bibi(n)
  {
canit(); fflush(stdout); mode(0);
***
*** 157,165 
exit(128+n);
  }
  /* Called when ZMODEM gets an interrupt (^X) */
! onintr()
  {
!   signal(SIGINT, SIG_IGN);
longjmp(intrjmp, -1);
  }

--- 160,171 
exit(128+n);
  }
  /* Called when ZMODEM gets an interrupt (^X) */
! #ifdef LINUX
! void
! #endif
! onintr(int signum)
  {
!   signal(signum, SIG_IGN);
longjmp(intrjmp, -1);
  }

***
*** 333,339 

mode(1);

- #ifndef LINUX
if (signal(SIGINT, bibi) == SIG_IGN) {
signal(SIGINT, SIG_IGN); signal(SIGKILL, SIG_IGN);
} else {
--- 339,344 
***
*** 342,348 
if ( !Fromcu)
signal(SIGQUIT, SIG_IGN);
signal(SIGTERM, bibi);
- #endif

if ( !Modem2) {
if (!Nozmodem) {
--- 347,352 
***
*** 840,849 
}
  }

!
! alrm()
  {
!   longjmp(tohere, -1);
  }


--- 844,855 
}
  }

! #ifdef LINUX
! void
! #endif
! alrm(int signum)
  {
!   longjmp(tohere, signum);
  }


***
*** 867,875 
if (Verbose>5) {
fprintf(stderr, "Timeout=%d Calling alarm(%d) ", timeout, c);
}
! #ifndef LINUX
signal(SIGALRM, alrm); alarm(c);
! #endif
c=read(iofd, byt, 1);
alarm(0);
if (Verbose>5)
--- 873,881 
if (Verbose>5) {
fprintf(stderr, "Timeout=%d Calling alarm(%d) ", timeout, c);
}
!
signal(SIGALRM, alrm); alarm(c);
!
c=read(iofd, byt, 1);
alarm(0);
if (Verbose>5)
***
*** 1236,1254 
c = getinsync(1);
goto gotack;
case XOFF:  /* Wait 

beware sysvinit 2.58 installation

1996-01-03 Thread Helmut Geyer
Hi!

There is a small problem with the new sysvinit (2.58-1) suite. Once you have
installed it, you can't shutdown/reboot/halt the system as these use a 
different way of communicating than the 2.57* init (a FIFO, no longer a file).
So please make copies of the old init,shutdown, halt and reboot programs and
reboot right after installing sysvinit 2.58. After rebooting, you can
delete the old files.

Helmut

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Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-03 Thread Raul Miller
Juergen Menden:
   any package which needs to be compiled is of course not
   arch-independent.  on my system here (sunos, not debian ;-)) at
   least the following are partially compiled:

   > ii  dvips5.58f 2TeX DVI-driver for Postscript
   > ii  fort77 1.6 1An f2c front end to make it look like a 
   > ii  makeidx   2.12  Makeindex, a general purpose index proce
   > ii  metafont  2.71 2Metafont - TeX's font engine
   > ii  xdvi  1.8f 2A TeX DVI-previewer for X11
   ...

It does look like dvips was superceeded by some other package, and
that it did originally have some executables in it.  [All I have on my
system from dvips is a copyright statement and some .tex
files].  makeidx, metafont and xdvi also seem to be mere stubs of
packages on my system.

/usr/bin/fort77 is a perl script, the only other things I see in this
package are a man page and a copyright statement.  Since I have f2c on
my system as a separate package, I'd guess that fort77 has also been
superceeded...

I think this is a bug in the debian packaging mechanisms.

The current mechanism presumes that files of the same name are drop-in
replacements for each other.  It currently manages the archive by
removing all references to a file but the most recent package to
provide the file.  This was conceived of as a way of managing packages
which are partially provided for on the base disks.

However, a better way of managing base packages is to record the
partial installation of the packages and mark them with a suitable
status code (for example, "unpacked").  Then, when they're installed
"for real" dpkg can treat these the same as any other incomplete
package installation.

For the more general case of packages which inadvertently provide the
same facilities, when one of the packages is removed the other may
become nonfunctional.

It's perfectly all-right for the most recent package to be installed
to provide the files for an ambiguous case.  But, the fact that
another package needs the file should also be recorded.  Only one
package can have supplied the physical instance of the file, but the
file might be included with more than one package.

Or, perhaps it would be simpler for dpkg to protest and refuse to
install a package if it has a file-overlap with another package?

Either way, the present behavior invites errors.

-- 
Raul



Re: Bug#2088: README.fdisk gone missing.

1996-01-03 Thread Jeff Noxon
This has been reported before -- the bug is still outstanding for several
reasons, but I will fix it in the next ELF release.

The future of the current version of fdisk seems to be somewhat
questionable, especially now that Bruce is working on a front-end for
fdisk 3.0.  I suppose we'll probably retain this one in some shape
or form just to keep familiar users happy.

In any case, I expect to release a new version of miscutils this weekend,
depending on my health after some minor surgery on Friday.  :)

Thanks,

Jeff

> Package: miscutils
> Version: 1.3-5
> 
> The BUGS section of the manpage for fdisk:
> 
>Although  this  man  page (written by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is
>poor, there is excellent documentation in the README.fdisk
>file  (written by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) that should always be
>with the fdisk distribution.  If you cannot find this file
>in  the  util-linux-* directory or with the fdisk.c source
>file, then you should write to  the  distributor  of  your
>version  of fdisk and complain that you do not have all of
>the available documentation.
> 
> I cannot find README.fdisk anywhere:
> 
>   % dpkg --search fdisk
>   miscutils: /usr/man/man8/fdisk.8
>   miscutils: /usr/man/man8/cfdisk.8
>   miscutils: /sbin/cfdisk
>   miscutils: /sbin/fdisk
> 
> Matt Birkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key ID = 74305425
> Key Fingerprint = B3 34 FB 3E 3C FE E8 57  AA B4 B2 95 A7 C0 1E AF



Re: beware sysvinit 2.58 installation

1996-01-03 Thread Jeff Noxon
Something similar happened last time I upgraded init -- to Bruce's ELF
version.

Shouldn't packages doing stuff like that do some postinst _after_ rebooting
the machine?  They could just add an rc file that removes itself once it
executes.

Thanks,

Jeff

Helmut Geyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is a small problem with the new sysvinit (2.58-1) suite. Once you have
> installed it, you can't shutdown/reboot/halt the system as these use a 
> different way of communicating than the 2.57* init (a FIFO, no longer a file).
> So please make copies of the old init,shutdown, halt and reboot programs and
> reboot right after installing sysvinit 2.58. After rebooting, you can
> delete the old files.



Bug#2088: README.fdisk gone missing.

1996-01-03 Thread birkholz
Package: miscutils
Version: 1.3-5

The BUGS section of the manpage for fdisk:

   Although  this  man  page (written by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is
   poor, there is excellent documentation in the README.fdisk
   file  (written by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) that should always be
   with the fdisk distribution.  If you cannot find this file
   in  the  util-linux-* directory or with the fdisk.c source
   file, then you should write to  the  distributor  of  your
   version  of fdisk and complain that you do not have all of
   the available documentation.

I cannot find README.fdisk anywhere:

% dpkg --search fdisk
miscutils: /usr/man/man8/fdisk.8
miscutils: /usr/man/man8/cfdisk.8
miscutils: /sbin/cfdisk
miscutils: /sbin/fdisk

Matt Birkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: Bug#2086: installation bugs/inadequacies

1996-01-03 Thread Jeff Noxon
I'll throw in some comments of my own.  :)

> * The base disks do not contain vi. This is unacceptable.

I'm also irritated by this.  Also, we should have a rescue disk of some
sort that has fsck.

> * Debian did not recognize my D-Link DE-530CT ethernet card with the
>   de-4x5 driver (Slackware has no problem with this).

This has been reported several times.  The de4x5 driver does not work
as a module without some parameters.  There is no way to pass these
parameters from /etc/modules.

Please: The de4x5 driver should not be provided as a module.

Unless, of course, someone wants to fix the PCI probing so it works
as a module.  Doing so is completely safe, but for some reason the
driver won't do it.

Thanks,

Jeff



FTP site performance low

1996-01-03 Thread Bruce Perens
Is there any prediction how long the FTP site will be bombarded by people
retrieving netscape? Is this going to be a regular occurrance? It's perhaps
a bit too slow for mirror scripts to run well. Performance from here seems
to be about 1K/second or less.

Thanks

Bruce
--
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Toy Story: > US$152M domestic box office receipts so far.



Bug#2090: no "uncompress" in gzip package

1996-01-03 Thread Mark W. Eichin
Package: gzip
Version: 1.2.4-6

uncompress should be a link to gunzip, as many programs (such as
w3.el) as well as users expect to be able to run uncompress on *.Z
files. (gunzip handles this fine, it's just a matter of naming...)

I'm using debian 0.93r6.



Re: FTP site performance low

1996-01-03 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> Is there any prediction how long the FTP site will be bombarded by people
> retrieving netscape? Is this going to be a regular occurrance? It's perhaps
> a bit too slow for mirror scripts to run well. Performance from here seems
> to be about 1K/second or less.

Well limits were just droped since we are close to school starting again.

Well netscape corp screwed me with politics and listed me in their mirror 
listings. Well there used to be more mirrors but it seems that we are one 
of three listed now. And until beta 5 or release version are out I can 
not get out of their list. And I can not remove their software until this 
happens.

So for now please use a mirror. Or get the files during the day when 
there is fewer users.



--
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Central Michigan University
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858

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... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental.  Any
resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them is left as an exercise for the reader.  The question of the
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New expect package

1996-01-03 Thread David Engel
Date: 04 Jan 96 03:17 UT
Source: expect
Binary: expect 
Version: 5.18.1-1
Description: 
 expect: The expect/expectk programs and libraries.
Priority: Low
Changes: 
 Updated to new upstream version.
 .
 Converted to ELF.
Files:
 -rw-rw-r--   1 root src391071 Jan  3 21:16 expect-5.18.1-1.tar.gz
 -rw-rw-r--   1 root src  1556 Jan  3 21:17 expect-5.18.1-1.diff.gz
 -rw-r--r--   1 root src367400 Jan  3 21:16 expect-5.18.1-1.deb
 938c64ad8afaaac8cd6e81d16c0bd33b  expect-5.18.1-1.tar.gz
 8a3ca0378c75b79f20f1fa9280c85f2c  expect-5.18.1-1.diff.gz
 7a6680b826b44271313413f009708635  expect-5.18.1-1.deb

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