Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
On Mon, 22 Dec 1997 wnpp wrote: wnpp> Does anybody working on the egcs package? If not, I would like to try. Also I am going to do some research on the "Scheme->C" scheme. thks, borik __ Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Berger Financial Research, [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Building Home: +972 2 6411880 Tel-Aviv IsraelWork: +972 3 6944218 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BUG: SVGATextMode or GPM
-Original Message- From: Igor Grobman +ADw-igor+AEA-digicron.com+AD4- To: Adam Heath +ADw-adam.heath+AEA-usa.net+AD4- Cc: Debian Development +ADw-debian-devel+AEA-lists.debian.org+AD4- Date: Tuesday, December 23, 1997 12:37 AM Subject: Re: BUG: SVGATextMode or GPM +AD4APg- I am running lastest hamm, and when I upgraded to the new svgatextmode, it asked to remove the /etc/rc.boot files, and install new ones. I did so, but when I rebooted, it executed after gpm. When I boot, the kernel uses 80x25, and when svgatextmode runs, it changes it to 180x80. However, the mouse is locked in the upper left-hand corner. Running +ACI-/etc/init.d/gpm restart+ACI- fixes it, but svgatextmode should be run earlier in the sequence. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-This is not a bug, this is a FAQ :-). Default TextConfig now includes (and +AD4-has been since 1.6-2, I think) the following line: +AD4- +AD4-ResetProg +ACI-/usr/sbin/STM+AF8-reset+ACI- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-STM+AF8-reset is a script that sends a WINCH signal to gpm notifying it of the +AD4-screen resize. Since TextConfig is a conffile, and yours has probably been +AD4-modified, the change never got through to you. This will be mentioned in +AD4-README.debian of the next version of stm. +AD4- When it installed, I told it to overwrite the old file. I still consider it a bug, because the operation of the computer changes, and I have to manually run /etc/init.d/gpm restart. It would be nice to have a default STM+AF8-reset, that checks if /etc/init.d/gpm exists, and if so, restart it. Or better yet, make a directory that packages can install files into, and have STM+AF8-reset call them. IE /etc/stm.d. Any time the default way of do things is changed, the user should be notified. This doesn't warrant a pause, but at least a message would have been nice. I had been running 1.3.1, with libc6 installed for a while, and did the hamm upgrade(50+-megs). I was expecting to have lots of messages about config files, so it wouldn't have been a pain to wait for another message. BTW, the is default resetprog is +ACI-/etc/STM+AF8-reset+ACI-, and it should not be there. It should be in some bin dir. My old TextConfig had it also. Adam Heath of Borg-Linux adam.heath+AEA-usa.net Join the H323 effort. Email http://www.debian.org - Get Your Own Linux+ACE- h.323-request+AEA-cichlid.com with http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3375265 - Page Me the word subscribe in the body. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debhelper: suggestions
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> expr "`dpkg-parsechangelog`" : '.*Version: \(.*\).*\nDistribution:' I can't get that to work. I have much better luck with `gawk'. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
intent to maintain orphaned package `addressbook'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I intend to take over maintenance of the orphaned `addressbook' package. I've spoken to the former maintainer, the upstream source maintainer, and Mssr Fok, who was kind enough to do most the work that needs to be done on the package, and gotten their blessing. Expect an upload as soon as I get an account on master. This package is listed as orphaned in packages.sgml,v 1.63. .A. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.onShore.com/> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBNJ9Qu4/8QF79WmfNAQH9BwP/YlylbvoOYrcOr4fszGDLxQa/9U5aRmCm vMWcgaDOJ12iCEdKMQf9JfL/FgscPNv4ls+V1CDHURrE45HC6Sn4nLEuis+2o0nh 9IZWl3a2YPN0PnNNXFd/q/z6eLUNr2qC1d01R0RKaH1MIyou1tWh2zKJssKnEBW/ slaNwTspEW0= =xZgk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BUG: SVGATextMode or GPM
> I am running lastest hamm, and when I upgraded to the new svgatextmode, it > asked to remove the /etc/rc.boot files, and install new ones. I did so, but > when I rebooted, it executed after gpm. When I boot, the kernel uses 80x25, > and when svgatextmode runs, it changes it to 180x80. However, the mouse is > locked in the upper left-hand corner. Running "/etc/init.d/gpm restart" > fixes it, but svgatextmode should be run earlier in the sequence. This is not a bug, this is a FAQ :-). Default TextConfig now includes (and has been since 1.6-2, I think) the following line: ResetProg "/usr/sbin/STM_reset" STM_reset is a script that sends a WINCH signal to gpm notifying it of the screen resize. Since TextConfig is a conffile, and yours has probably been modified, the change never got through to you. This will be mentioned in README.debian of the next version of stm. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BUG: SVGATextMode or GPM
I got mail from Igor on this subject this morning. To save him the trouble of spelling it out yet again, here is his message. >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 23 05:35:27 1997 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:09:07 +0500 From: Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-testing@lists.debian.org, Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: *--* svgatextmode and gpm I am on debian-testing btw, so you did not have to cc :-) > > /etc/rcS2.d has these entries: > > S20gpm > S40svgatextmode > > My box starts up in 80x25 and is then changed to 116x33 and because gpm is > started before svgatextmode I cannot move my cursor outside the 80x25 > area. So gpm needs to be started after svgatextmode. > > I can fix my box, but how do I go about getting this situation corrected? No, it seems that you have a customized TextConfig, so yours did not get updated when I made the change to it that calls /usr/sbin/STM_reset script which sends SIGWINCH to gpm making it aware of changed screen size. Here is the line you need uncommented in your /etc/TextConfig ResetProg "/usr/sbin/STM_reset" This is becoming a FAQ, I should mention it in README.debian. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj Debian Unix =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Adam Heath wrote: > I am running lastest hamm, and when I upgraded to the new svgatextmode, it > asked to remove the /etc/rc.boot files, and install new ones. I did so, but > when I rebooted, it executed after gpm. When I boot, the kernel uses 80x25, > and when svgatextmode runs, it changes it to 180x80. However, the mouse is > locked in the upper left-hand corner. Running "/etc/init.d/gpm restart" > fixes it, but svgatextmode should be run earlier in the sequence. > > Adam Heath of Borg-Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Join the H.323 effort. Email > http://www.debian.org - Get Your Own Linux! [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3375265 - Page Me the word subscribe in the body. > > > > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Immutable files
>From a security point of view, it might be considered worthwhile to install system executables (particularly the suid ones) and then mark them immutable. This does stop some common attacks from succeeding, and it might prevent some stupid things accidentally done as root. My Debian 1.2.10 system (okay, it was an oldish CD-ROM..) has no files marked as immutable. Has this been considered for the hamm release? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Immutable files
And thus spake Matthew Wilcox, on Wed, Dec 24, 1997 at 01:41:27AM +: > From a security point of view, it might be considered worthwhile to install > system executables (particularly the suid ones) and then mark them immutable. > This does stop some common attacks from succeeding, and it might prevent some > stupid things accidentally done as root. My Debian 1.2.10 system (okay, it > was an oldish CD-ROM..) has no files marked as immutable. Has this been > considered for the hamm release? Immutability, append-only, and other kernel securelevel-dependent things really need to be managed on a site basis. As it stands, immutability is really pretty useless, and until the kernel securelevel mechanism is fully implemented it's really just not something to try to set up globally. Securelevel flags also add a completely new level of complexity to package management, if you require the dpkg system to maintain them. If you want to use immutable/append-only, go for it; some of us like to be able to upgrade our installations 5 or 6 times before we have to reboot. -- Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That is not dead which can eternal lie, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And with strange aeons even death may die. Developer / Mercenary / System Administrator - _The Necromicon_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ever heard of ftwalk?
dear debian-developers, i've written a freeware package, an awk-like script programming language. it was originally developed for file tree search/maintenance applications, so i called it "ftwalk". a more awk-like mode also exists, called "hawk". it has a rich type system, scads of built-in functions, etc. it does pretty much everything perl does, except of course it doesn't have millions of users or their libraries. it can be used interactively, like a super-calculator. it comes with full on-line doc, and there is a huge postscript file that you can print out. i even have an o'reilly-like pocket guide. it has been ported to several unix systems (linux, irix, solaris, ultrix, aix). the problem is: nobody has heard of ftwalk, nobody uses it, and i've grown weary of trying to do it all myself. but i still think it's too good to just walk away from, so please take a look at it. let me know what you think. and if you have any interest in helping to work on it, i'm game for at least one more release. please take a look at: http://www.contex.com/ftwalk thanks. you can write me back at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mopac - public domain
I wrote: > However, they have disclaimed copyright, so the only thing that would > forbid removal of the notice would be a US statute. As you are outside the > US you could ignore it, though it would be discourteous not to give credit. Kai Henningsen writes: > *Is* there such an US statute? Not that I know of, but IANAL. However, I'm fairly sure that 17 U.S.C. # 105 does deny them copyright. Thus, their "nonsense license" is unenforceable. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: New required base packages for Amiga, Atari, ... detection
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Mitchell) wrote on 24.12.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > > > > As in, ISA vs. MCA vs. PCI? :-) > > > > > > No, as in e.g. Intel-PC vs. Sun :-) > > > > Hardly. That would be a case of incompatible CPUs. Or does Sun produce x86 > > machines these days? Nothing is impossible ... > > No, the CPUs are the same in this instance, but the hardware architectures > are different. The types of programs that need this systen are hardware I seem to recall that the case in question (it _was_ Atari vs. Amiga, right?) still allowed you to run _the_very_same_kernel_ on both systems. > specific programs that only work on one kind of hardware architecture, > even though the same CPU is used for more than one hardware architecture. Well, yes. That _is_ the same as ISA/EISA/PCI/VBL/MCA. > > I don't think so. Dependencies are for cases where package A depends on > > package B. Not for hardware dependencies. > > I think in this case it makes sense to use dependencies such as these, > instead of changing control files to use something like: > > CPU: m68k > Architecture: amiga > > and > > CPU: m68k > Architecture: mac > > and > > CPU: ia32 > Architecture: generic-pc > > The dependencies also ensure a range of hardware specific programs can be > included at once, without having to find and select each separately. > > > We don't have any other hardware related mechanism, and I really don't > > think we need one. > > I think Roman's proposal is a very good idea. Well, I don't. > Perhaps you could reconsider after taking into account this additional > information? Actually, I already knew all that. It's _why_ I think this isn't a good idea. MfG Kai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: So where is the bo-unstable directory?
On 23 Dec 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: > Hmmm, i thought that bo-unstable was supposed to be created past > weekend or so, but i still don't see anything like this existing on > "ftp.debian.org". Will it happen already this year or sometime next > year? ;-) All necessary steps to get the bo-unstable directory set up have been performed. We have an executive decision to create that directory and we also have a policy. I just reported a bug against "ftp.debian.org" and I hope Guy will have time for this in the next few days. Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA \ / http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/ -.-.,---,-,-..---,-,-.,.-.- "DIE ENTE BLEIBT DRAUSSEN!" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Motif Software
Hi developers, I would like to know which motif software package would you suggest for use With debian 1.3.1? Thanks, Edmund P. Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
> "Steve" == Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Steve, you can have it, if you like; I learned from
>> repackageing it, perhaps you'll get something from it too. Let
>> me know.
Steve> All of this for such a small package... If you've already
Steve> done the work you might as well keep it. Please forward
Steve> the first part of this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell
Steve> them you are adopting the package from me.
I'd rather just let you take it. You can ftp a tarfile of it from:
(please, Steve only. This ISN'T a public server. It's my home computer.)
wget ftp://bittersweet.inetarena.com/pub/linuxlogo{-deb,_1.0.orig}.tar.gz
... this is everything for the debian package, and the original
pristine sources (I assume.) that I got from ftp.debian.org. I'll
leave the line on so you can get it; don't expect blazing speed, it's
across a 33.6 from the net.
The last release I made has an error. I missed installing the rcN.d
symlinks, so it doesn't get run on startup. I hope you can fix that.
I've added an icon and a menu entry, along with a wrapper script so
there's now a Games/Toys menu that will display the penguin.
I tried to put this under CVS, but it's not working. It causes cvs
to dump core. I think it's because the files got created under DOS,
and all have ^M line endings. I didn't convert it because it would
change every line of every file, and the diff would be twice as big
as the pristine sources.
Have fun, I hope you learn a lot from this.
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Re: Intent to split mysql package
Scott Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 22 Dec 1997, Scott Hanson wrote: > > > > > The server package will continue to be in non-free. The client is GPLd > > > and can go into contrib, and I think the other sub-packages can go > > > into contrib as well. > > > > Well, there was a discussion on debian-policy some time ago about such a > > setup. The problem is that all packages are built from a single source > > package (I think) and that package will have to be in non-free. Thus, we > > would not have full source for the contrib packages. > > > > We haven't decided yet how to handle this situation. > > True... there is only one source package. It's probably best to keep > everything in non-free. the alternative would be to split the source. This way the client side would be on every official CD. Merry Christmas Christian -- Christian Leutloff, Aachen, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oche.de/~leutloff/ Debian GNU/Linux 1.3.1! Mehr unter http://www.de.debian.org/ pgp74MTeLJAYm.pgp Description: PGP signature
intent to package: doom!
Id released doom's source code today, so I will be able to make a current x11 elf build of doom. Due to copyright, it will go in non-free. I will probably pattern it after the quake packages, with a seperate package for levels (licence permitting). -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Can I take wml and eperl?
Tommi Virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't understand how to modify this address! 8-( > PS. Currently wml includes eperl, iselect, > weblint, m4, txt2html etc. I intend to split > these (atleast the bigger ones) to separate > packages, and make wml depend on them. See > /usr/doc/wml/COPYRIGHT.OTHER. No reason to > have eperl or m4 installed twice.. But that > cames *after* getting a working version out. there is a least a separate weblint package: $ dpkg -s weblint Package: weblint Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: web Installed-Size: 84 Maintainer: Darren Stalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 1.020-1 Depends: perl Suggests: lynx Description: a syntax and minimal style checker for HTML A perl script which picks fluff off html pages, much in the same way traditional lint picks fluff off C programs. . Weblint checks HTML 3.2 by default with support for Netscape (v4) and Microsoft (v4) HTML extensions. It allows the various syntax and stylistic checks to be enabled or disabled by the user or in a system-wide configuration file. Bye Christian -- Christian Leutloff, Aachen, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oche.de/~leutloff/ Debian GNU/Linux 1.3.1! Mehr unter http://www.de.debian.org/ pgpgWZODG2T5C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Motif Software
First, try "lesstif", which is packaged with Debian and is free software. If you have the source for your application, it might work with lesstif, and then you won't need a motif package. Thanks Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Motif Software
It looks like you already have motif, right?
In this case I would recommend using all packages dynamicaly linked with
Motif (like ddd-dmotif, etc.) from contrib/ *and* hamm/contrib/.
Since Motif is not available for libc6 (glibc2) yet, all Motif packages,
even from unstable tree should be libc5- linked and therefore suitable
for Debian 1.3.1. You actually can try something like xacc, nice personal
accounting application (don't think it is available as Debian package).
Motif linkage of vim (text editor) makes it look much nicer in X, etc.
Some mail user agent programs for X use Motif.
Good luck.
Alex Y.
P.S. If you got Motif 1.2 (not 2.0), then you are even in better luck,
you could use dynamically linked Netscape.
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Re: intent to package: doom!
> Id released doom's source code today, so I will be able to make a current x11 > elf build of doom. Due to copyright, it will go in non-free. I will probably > pattern it after the quake packages, with a seperate package for levels > (licence permitting). Please, svgalib version too!! =) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
