Re: INTENT: to pkg netscape 4.5 full debs(not 4.05)
On 17 Jun 1998, Gregory S. Stark wrote: Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As some of you might know, I have been working on full debs of netscape 4.05. I have everything almost perfect, except for the reporting clause. Is there any possibility we could get permission from Netscape to skip the reporting clause? Frankly I'm concerned any such reporting directly from the client machine would be a nasty privacy violation. Since it's going in non-free anyways it doesn't particularly matter if it has debian-specific permissions. Sorry, I already tried. It would also be interesting to generate a pre-fortified version for nonus. That is something I have thought about. It is not foremost on my TODO list. PS: this may all be a distraction from working on real free software, but it's a darned attractive distraction... It would be real nice to a have a proper netscape package. I am working toward a proper deb. I am working on an automated email sender to satisfy netscape. Currently, it looks like this: = Received: from adam.heath by adam.hackers-net.com with local (Exim 1.92 #1 (Debian)) id 0ympGh-0002g6-00; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:43:11 -0500 X-Debian_Report_Version: 1.0 X-Debian_Report-Pkg: netscape4-java (4.05-0.11) X-Debian_Report-Pkg: netscape4-base (4.05-0.12) X-Debian_Report-Pkg: navigator4-smotif (4.05-0.12) X-Debian_Report-SRC: communicator From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian Automatic Package Registration Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:43:11 -0500 This is an automated mail message sent upon installation of certain packages. It is just used to tally the number of times it is installed worldwide. _start_of_data_ Package: netscape4-java Version: 4.05-0.11 Package: netscape4-base Version: 4.05-0.12 Package: navigator4-smotif Version: 4.05-0.12 = Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GMT seems to have moved...
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: On my bo system the GMT variable is set in /etc/init.d/boot, but my hamm system has no such file!. Where is GMT set now? /etc/defaults/rcS Would someple -PLEASE- put a comment to this effect in the hwclock.sh file?! Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
if you all do not stop this discussion i start writing an editor. easy to use just as EDIT.EXE. for anybody, especially a beginner. also for professionals. :wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
p2c 1.20-2.4 is now lintian-compliant and in Incoming.
It's targetted for 'frozen unstable' - yes, this is for hamm. I did *not* fix the old source format, or edit it to use debhelper, or anything else drastic - it *only* (a). fixes all the lintian errors and (b). gives us a libp2c1 package. I've tested it with the example code that comes with p2c, and the traditional hello world code. Please test it further and let me know of any problems. -- Robert Woodcock - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix and C are the ultimate computer viruses -- Richard Gabriel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serious performance bug in Perl
Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 12:38:45PM -0500, Richard Kaszeta wrote:
Christopher J. Fearnley writes (Re: Serious performance bug in Perl):
to call it (instead of the default perl - 5.004.04-6). Performance
improved several hundred-fold. So I believe the problem is either in
perl or libc6.
Any suggestions on how to resolve this? As I said before the slowdown
seems to occur in the get_current_uids subroutine (and possible
get_current_gids). Which has a loop on getpwent (and getgrent).
Can anyone else duplicate this behavior?
I can duplicate this behavior. Performance gets exponentially better
if I move my NIS password records into the local password file. So in
my case I am tempted to blame libc6's NIS performance (which in other
circumstances I have found to be rather slow anyways)
Are you running NIS?
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It's a perl thing. I can almost guarantee it. The problem is perl's
shadow password support and it's getpw* functions. Whenever these
functions are called (and assigned to a variable; if you just call
them and discard the value immediately this doesn't happen), perl
attempts to look up the shadow password entry associated with the
given struct passwd *, and this takes a while - especially since the
/etc/shadow file is closed immediately after each fetch. (Which could
be because perl is doing something like a getspnam call each time - of
course, since it's doing these getspnam calls in order, one might think
that perhaps libc6 should be smart enough to not close and re-open
/etc/shadow each time, but maybe perl surrounds the getspnam calls
with setspent() and endspent() calls or somesuch for security
reasons).
This clearly seems to be a case that calls for a bit of magic (as in
magic variables that invoke arbitrary code each time they're
referenced) - the second element of the list returned by getpw* should
be a magic scalar, which is looked up only when asked for. Could be
an idea that gets forwarded upstream.
In any case, at the moment you should be able to speed adduser up
considerably by modifying the get_current_uids routine as follows:
sub get_current_uids {
my(@uids, $uid);
my($olduid);
$olduid = $;
$ = $;
$ = ((getpwnam nobody)[2]);
setpwent;
push @uids, $uid while defined($uid = (getpwent)[2]);
endpwent;
$ = $;
$ = $olduid;
@uids;
}
(This should work even if adduser is made an suid script executable by
only a certain group)
This still causes (you can see with an strace) many attempts to open
/etc/shadow, but they're all denied so the whole process is much faster.
For what it's worth, I made libc5 and libc6 C programs that just
called getpwent or getspent repeatedly - both blazed through my 1000
user passwd and shadow files in well under 0.05 sec each, though the
libc5 one was about twice as fast on getpwent and the libc6 one was
about twice fast on getspent. Go figure.
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Re: Serious performance bug in Perl
Daniel == Daniel Martin at cush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel It's a perl thing. I can almost guarantee it. The Daniel problem is perl's shadow password support and it's getpw* Daniel functions. Whenever these functions are called (and Daniel assigned to a variable; if you just call them and discard Daniel the value immediately this doesn't happen), perl attempts Daniel to look up the shadow password entry associated with the Daniel given struct passwd *, and this takes a while - especially Daniel since the /etc/shadow file is closed immediately after Daniel each fetch. This is probably because the patch that allows Debian's Perl to use getspnam() and friends is pretty new and untested. Is there any way you can look at http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl-porters/1998-03/msg01574.html and see if the patch there can be made better? Let's try to fix this problem. Ben -- Brought to you by the letters S and X and the number 14. XTC versus Adam Ant -- which one will survive? -- They Might Be Giants Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow? http://www.debian.org/ I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serious performance bug in Perl
Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel == Daniel Martin at cush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel It's a perl thing. I can almost guarantee it. The Daniel problem is perl's shadow password support and it's getpw* Daniel functions. Whenever these functions are called (and Daniel assigned to a variable; if you just call them and discard Daniel the value immediately this doesn't happen), perl attempts Daniel to look up the shadow password entry associated with the Daniel given struct passwd *, and this takes a while - especially Daniel since the /etc/shadow file is closed immediately after Daniel each fetch. This is probably because the patch that allows Debian's Perl to use getspnam() and friends is pretty new and untested. Is there any way you can look at http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl-porters/1998-03/msg01574.html and see if the patch there can be made better? Let's try to fix this problem. My... it's been a while since I was investigating perl internals (writing C code that was callable from perl) - at least two years, which somehow seems much longer. Well, I'll have my machine download the perl source tonight and see what I can see... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package: MacGate
MacGate is a set of user-space programs for using the Appletalk-IP decapsulation driver in the 2.1.90 and later kernels (or 2.0 kernels with the Appletalk-Suite patch). It allows a GNU/Linux system with Netatalk to act as an Appletalk-IP router. The license is GPL. I've made preliminary source and binary packages for i386, which have been uploaded to my webpage at http://aix2.uottawa.ca/~s1204672/linux/ I hope this isn't a really stupid question, but I couldn't find anything relevant in the policy manual: Is it all right to package things like this that depend on experimental or patched kernels? I assumed it should go in extra and included a stern warning in the Description: field of the control file that it won't work with the standard 2.0.33/2.0.34 kernel images. Should I include the kernel patch in the package, with instructions? Assuming this is all right, and noone else is doing it (I'm planning to take over an orphaned package or two, anyway), I'll apply to become an official developer... If there's anyone in the Ottawa-Hull area that can sign my PGP key for me, please contact me by personal e-mail. As an aside, I wasn't able to get these programs to link against libatalk.so without also linking with /usr/lib/libwrap.a. I'm unsure whether to file this as a bug, and if so, whether it should be a bug against libatalk1-dev (which provides libatalk.so, which is where gcc complains about missing symbols) or netbase (which provides libwrap.a, but no libwrap.so) because I honestly have no idea what libwrap.a is for :-) Cheers Dave -- David Huggins-Daines [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aix2.uottawa.ca/~s1204672 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package: lf (linuxfocus)
Hello I would package linuxfocus, a online linux-magazin. It is nice :-) , but non-free :-( see: http://www.linuxfocus.org There is NO copyright-file. I have mail to the main author. He write that in the next issue (July 1998) is a copyright file :-). I put the english part of lf to /usr/doc/lf/en/199JMM/, the german part to /usr/doc/lf/de/199JMM and so on. Ok? Grisu pgpT2SlgrgsAV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
* Michael Dietrich (Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 04:31:52AM +0200) if you all do not stop this discussion i start writing an editor. easy to use just as EDIT.EXE. for anybody, especially a beginner. also for professionals. :wq Go ahead, it wouldn't hurt, would it? :-) -- SSM - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen Trust the Computer, the Computer is your Friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: * Michael Dietrich (Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 04:31:52AM +0200) if you all do not stop this discussion i start writing an editor. easy to use just as EDIT.EXE. for anybody, especially a beginner. also for professionals. :wq Go ahead, it wouldn't hurt, would it? :-) dosemu + edit.exe ... works for me (C: Regards Ray (Darksun - irc.debian.org#debian ) Why are you movin From one country to another to find peace? The sea of peace is just inside Your mind's silence-sky. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could we automate downgrade possibility by dpkg-repack?
Hi, when I install a package from unstable it sometimes happens that something is seriously broken and I'd like downgrade the package again. But the last recent version of the package has already disappeared from all the ftp mirrors and it is not easy to go back again. Could one include the option in dselect (and/or apt) to make a backup copy of a package before replacing it with the new one? This could be done by dpkg-repack. When I am sure that the new package works well, I could remove the backup copy of the last version. There are packaging systems that call this procedure to apply a patch (make a backup copy and replace something) and to commit (remove the backup copy). Cheers, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bootfile locations for rbootd?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [rbootd directory choice] the usual problem : you have an application and need an application home. with ftp it's /home/ftp, for web server /var/www, and for many other stuff it's currently /var/lib/package or /var/spool/package. but with slink you should use fhs, so it's ??? /var/state/package /var/cache/package and /var/spool/package are possible : - cache for data, that can get lost and regenerated - state for more permanent data - spool ... something in the middle. it exists for compatibility reasons :-) Hmm. Is the local sysadmin allowed to put random files in /var/ ? I thought you couldn't guarantee that the distribution wouldn't stomp on them... [if the local admin can't add files then the package is useless because it provides no boot images itself :-] do not use : /usr/local/* distributions should not touch that tree But in this case we aren't really using it; we're just saying 'if you put files in this directory then rbootd will serve them'. The policy manual explicitly says that we can create directories under /usr/local; is this advice now out of date? IMHO the right thing would be for rbootd to be able to accept more than one directory, specified in the configuration file rather than at compile time. Then we could have /var/whatever and the local sysadmin could use /usr/local/whatever. But that's not totally trivial as it requires some restructuring of the way the daemon works... Peter Maydell [I suppose I'm the upstream maintainer, BTW :- (and the NetBSD guys are upstream of me, until I get round to submitting my patches...)] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: lf (linuxfocus)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I put the english part of lf to /usr/doc/lf/en/199JMM/, the german part to /usr/doc/lf/de/199JMM and so on. Please use linuxfocus instead of lf to avoid namespace pollution... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNYoukSqK7IlOjMLFAQFNKgP+OXCryxu1/h9vd8DykvvgsrdDdKUfOGmM 9gbcYTPBLj7SgHHX2yoWV1lvWGXgAyS14Wd5qhaUkwfuGRrKQQSTCfJ1n4ZfGD8H 1Bp3Rcj7Rs5zz0+Em/SNNbpqtrTqVaHGop7YbmTy2Zx4INOkunCPGFuw6NXbVXl1 V2LlWrxyYZ4= =OBfe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: lf (linuxfocus)
Hi, But please only package the german things as soon as they are completely translated because we have more than one version then... That's not very good I think... cu, Gerhard --- at-net and VBS - We support experimental data transport technology! Linux International Web Administrator - http://www.li.org -=[ May the Source be with you ]=- On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Santiago Vila wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I put the english part of lf to /usr/doc/lf/en/199JMM/, the german part to /usr/doc/lf/de/199JMM and so on. Please use linuxfocus instead of lf to avoid namespace pollution... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNYoukSqK7IlOjMLFAQFNKgP+OXCryxu1/h9vd8DykvvgsrdDdKUfOGmM 9gbcYTPBLj7SgHHX2yoWV1lvWGXgAyS14Wd5qhaUkwfuGRrKQQSTCfJ1n4ZfGD8H 1Bp3Rcj7Rs5zz0+Em/SNNbpqtrTqVaHGop7YbmTy2Zx4INOkunCPGFuw6NXbVXl1 V2LlWrxyYZ4= =OBfe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help needed with libpaperg_1.0.3-10
Hi, a pair of days ago i have uploaded a new version of libpaper and libpaperg (version 1.0.3-10), to close a release critical bug: in the preinst of libpaperg i have added two diversions, since both libpaper and libpaperg contain the files /usr/sbin/paperconfig and /usr/bin/paperconf. Unfortunately, something is not working and i have received three bug reports: there are problems when upgrading from libpaperg_1.0.3-9 to libpaperg_1.0.3-10: this is the more interesting (bug#23644): Package: libpaperg Version: 1.0.3-9 Preparing to replace libpaperg 1.0.3-9 (using libpaperg_1.0.3-10.deb) ... Adding `diversion of /usr/bin/paperconf to /usr/bin/paperconf.libc5 by libpaperg' Adding `diversion of /usr/sbin/paperconfig to /usr/sbin/paperconfig.libc5 by libpaperg' Unpacking replacement libpaperg ... dpkg: error processing libpaperg_1.0.3-10.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/paperconf', which is the diverted version of `¼Z¨^ɸ×' (package:libpaperg) Errors were encountered while processing: libpaperg_1.0.3-10.deb E: Sub-process returned an error code Please notice the strange chars in the error message: i really do not know how this can be my fault! Moreover, I have tried to reproduce the bug, with no results: all works correctly on my machine. So, i really need your help with this bug: i am appending the preint script for libpaperg_1.0.3.10 (that introduces the diversions). Thank you, Marco libpaperg.preinst --- #! /bin/sh set -e FIRST_VERSION_WITH_DIVERT=1.0.3-10 if [ $1 = install ]; then dpkg-divert --package libpaperg --add --rename \ --divert /usr/bin/paperconf.libc5 /usr/bin/paperconf dpkg-divert --package libpaperg --add --rename \ --divert /usr/sbin/paperconfig.libc5 /usr/sbin/paperconfig fi if [ $1 = upgrade ] /usr/bin/dpkg --compare-versions $2 lt $FIRST_VERSION_WITH_DIVERT ; then dpkg-divert --package libpaperg --add \ --divert /usr/bin/paperconf.libc5 /usr/bin/paperconf dpkg-divert --package libpaperg --add \ --divert /usr/sbin/paperconfig.libc5 /usr/sbin/paperconfig fi exit 0 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: lf (linuxfocus)
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 11:25:40AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
I put the english part of lf to /usr/doc/lf/en/199JMM/, the german part to
/usr/doc/lf/de/199JMM and so on.
Please use linuxfocus instead of lf to avoid namespace pollution...
Ok.
the packages are named like:
lf-en-issue-199801
lf-en-issue-199803
lf-es-issue-199801
lf-es-issue-199803
lf-de-issue-199803
and alle *.gif, *.html .. go to /usr/doc/linuxfocus.
('lf' was like 'lg' = linuxgazette)
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Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
if you all do not stop this discussion i start writing an editor. easy to use just as EDIT.EXE. for anybody, especially a beginner. also for professionals. :wq Go ahead, it wouldn't hurt, would it? :-) OK, i would start if everybody promisses to stop the discussion if or if not a beginner has to tamper around with vi. -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: Key cross-signing in Hamburg/Germany
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New gnome packages
Am I correct that we currently do not have a complete desktop with gnome? Since there is no wm yet, it's pretty difficult to judge it. Also it seems some libraries/binaries are compiled with debug flags set. For intance I got this when using gnome-terminal: ** WARNING **: gnome_message_box_set_modal is deprecated. $ [l,1,1] [s,1,1] ,1,1] [e,1,1] [x,1,1] [i,1,1] [t,1,1] ,1,1] errno = 0, saverrno = 5 out of data on read Finally there is one incorrect dependency. gnome-utils depend on libobgtk0 but there is only libobgtk1 Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire! | Tel: (+49) 2405/4670-44 Use Debian GNU/Linux! | Fax: (+49) 2405/4670-10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New gnome packages
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 01:52:29PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: Am I correct that we currently do not have a complete desktop with gnome? Since there is no wm yet, it's pretty difficult to judge it. Last I heard, the gnome team doesn't intend to have a specific window manager---instead they're making the information on making a window manager ghome compliant freely available (and will probably do some mods to some of the more important wms, if the original authors don't seem interested). icewm is already gnome compliant, and has the advantage of being quite small. Enlightenment will also be gnome compliant, though larger. I believe WindowMaker is also already gnome compliant, though I'm less sure about that. Mike. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help needed with libpaperg_1.0.3-10
Jason I have CCd you because this is what caused the apt/dpkg problem I mailed you about. Perhaps you can experiment. On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 12:10:05PM +0200, Marco Pistore wrote: a pair of days ago i have uploaded a new version of libpaper and libpaperg (version 1.0.3-10), to close a release critical bug: in the preinst of libpaperg i have added two diversions, since both libpaper and libpaperg contain the files /usr/sbin/paperconfig and /usr/bin/paperconf. Unfortunately, something is not working and i have received three bug reports: there are problems when upgrading from libpaperg_1.0.3-9 to libpaperg_1.0.3-10: this is the more interesting (bug#23644): dpkg: error processing libpaperg_1.0.3-10.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/paperconf', which is the diverted version of `¼Z¨^ɸ×' (package:libpaperg) Errors were encountered while processing: libpaperg_1.0.3-10.deb E: Sub-process returned an error code I did not see the garbage but I did get the dpkg abort. I did not file a bug report because I was not sure which package was at fault, but libpaperg was the last package looked at before dpkg terminated. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-19
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Major changes: [snip] - Application moved out of main: sniffit, rat, crafty, kbd ^^^ I hope kbd has not been removed from hamm, it would be pretty bad for all the users _not_ having a US keyboard... [snip] Package: kbd Maintainer: Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23639 postinst [FIX] Yann Dirson added an additionnal test-and-remove on top of postinst and uploaded 0.95-16 on June 19. -- - Vincent RENARDIAS [EMAIL PROTECTED],pipo.com,debian.org} - - Debian/GNU Linux: Pipo:WAW: - - http://www.fr.debian.orghttp://www.pipo.com http://www.waw.com - --- - La fonctionnalite Son Visuel vous delivre des avertissements visuels. - - [Message durant l'installation de Windows95]:wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-19
Previously Vincent Renardias wrote: I hope kbd has not been removed from hamm, it would be pretty bad for all the users _not_ having a US keyboard... I stand corrected. kbd should have been in the list of packages for which a fixed version was uploaded/installed. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpUiQ1GvNcPS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-19
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to a nem Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List. Since Richar Braakman is currently on vacation, I will be maintaining this for the next two weeks. This is my first post, so please excuse any errors/oversights and report them to me. Wichert. Major changes: - Fixes were uploaded for dosemu, dwww, libpaper*, libsocks4, metamail, ssh, tetex-bin - Application moved out of main: sniffit, rat, crafty, kbd [...] kbd moved out of main? Is this the same kbd that is in section base? Isn't this an important package? E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More corrupted utmp/wtmp
I am having problems on 2 machines (both upgraded from bo). with the utmp/wtmp. The output below is from a machine that never has had an Xterm running (telnet access only): $ last ;* *.*5 192.168.5.51 Wed Dec 31 21:26 still logged in wtmp begins Tue Jun 16 08:45:00 1998 I have similar things on the other machine, which only occasionally runs an xterminal (it really gets messed up after exiting an xterm, otherwise it looks similar to above. I used the autoup.sh script to go from bo to hamm, and everything else seems to be working splendidly. Any tips on what to look at? thanks, troy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More corrupted utmp/wtmp
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote: : I am having problems on 2 machines (both upgraded from bo). with the : utmp/wtmp. : : The output below is from a machine that never has had an Xterm running : (telnet access only): : : $ last : ;* *.*5 192.168.5.51 Wed Dec 31 21:26 still logged in : : wtmp begins Tue Jun 16 08:45:00 1998 : : I have similar things on the other machine, which only occasionally runs an : xterminal (it really gets messed up after exiting an xterm, otherwise it : looks similar to above. : : I used the autoup.sh script to go from bo to hamm, and everything else : seems to be working splendidly. : : Any tips on what to look at? Do you have ssh installed? (or anything else from non-US) ... I seem to recall some troubles with the libc5 version of ssh ... -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intenet To Package: Electric Eyes
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Re: Intenet To Package: Electric Eyes
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I did check the WNPP this time! ;) Thanks for pointing out my error, everyone on debian-private. Sorry to disappoint you, but: sh-2.01# dpkg --list eeyes Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii eeyes 0.20-1 The Electric Eyes graphics viewer/editor It's part of the series of GNOME-packages Jim Pick uploaded a couple of days ago. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpeHNeHO26I1.pgp Description: PGP signature
libungif?
I've just installed Jim Pick's Gnome .20 .debs and they're all complaining that libungif.so.3 can't be found. Where would it be? There's no libungif package, according to www.debian.org/packages.html. thanks, Will -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome again
Okay, I tried starting icewm and then some gnome applets resp. some of the desktop tools. But they all seg fault. And I get a message that imlib is lacking the file in /usr/etc. Do I have to set an environment variable? I think we should add a README explaining how to use gnome to the packages. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire! | Tel: (+49) 2405/4670-44 Use Debian GNU/Linux! | Fax: (+49) 2405/4670-10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More corrupted utmp/wtmp
yes, ssh is installed on both machines. I will try rebuilding it... I will post the results of the trial. :) thanks! troy At 09:05 AM 6/19/98 -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote: : I am having problems on 2 machines (both upgraded from bo). with the : utmp/wtmp. : : The output below is from a machine that never has had an Xterm running : (telnet access only): : : $ last : ;* *.*5 192.168.5.51 Wed Dec 31 21:26 still logged in : : wtmp begins Tue Jun 16 08:45:00 1998 : : I have similar things on the other machine, which only occasionally runs an : xterminal (it really gets messed up after exiting an xterm, otherwise it : looks similar to above. : : I used the autoup.sh script to go from bo to hamm, and everything else : seems to be working splendidly. : : Any tips on what to look at? Do you have ssh installed? (or anything else from non-US) ... I seem to recall some troubles with the libc5 version of ssh ... -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: joilet fs for official cdrom
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 10:50:46PM +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: I used Andreas' tarball v 0.12 (which contains mkisofs) on a machine running 2.1.103, using -J -r (and -b, too), and it works fine... both 2.1.103 and 2.0.33 seem to prefer Joliet over RR, but I can see and use the symlinks on both systems... I pass no options to mount (fstab reads defaults,ro,noauto) btw: does the cd image boot ? yes, it does. i was told, that a bug with joilet+rr in 1.12* was fixed in 1.12a4, but i would feel better with someone who has tested it. I used the mkisofs you included in the tarball... which one is it? It doesn't say... Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: p2c 1.20-2.4 is now lintian-compliant and in Incoming.
Some time around Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:36:17 PDT, Robert Woodcock wrote: It's targetted for 'frozen unstable' - yes, this is for hamm. I did *not* fix the old source format, or edit it to use debhelper, or anything else drastic - it *only* (a). fixes all the lintian errors and (b). gives us a libp2c1 package. If it's the old source format, then is it still in hamm? I think every other old-source format package is no longer in hamm. I don't see why p2c would be the exception given that no one wants to maintain it anyway. Unless, of course you mean something different by old source format than what I am thinking of (does it have a .dsc file?) -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 09:30:17AM -0400, Ray Kinsella wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: * Michael Dietrich (Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 04:31:52AM +0200) if you all do not stop this discussion i start writing an editor. easy to use just as EDIT.EXE. for anybody, especially a beginner. also for professionals. :wq Go ahead, it wouldn't hurt, would it? :-) dosemu + edit.exe ... works for me (C: LOL!...ok... YOU try and fit that on a boot/rescue disk along with all of the other stuff that the disk needs. :) -Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libungif?
Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just installed Jim Pick's Gnome .20 .debs and they're all complaining that libungif.so.3 can't be found. Where would it be? There's no libungif package, according to www.debian.org/packages.html. They are in slink. The depends in gnome is screwed up. It says that it depends on (libgif3g | libungif3g), but panel is linked against libungif.3.so, which is not contained in the libgif3g package. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package JDE (Emacs Java Development Environment)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruud de Rooij) writes:
Package: jde
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Depends: emacs20 | xemacs20-bin
^^
Why? We run JDE on Emacs 19.34 here in the department just fine.
Recommends: jdk1.1-dev
\begin{just checking}You realise, of course, this puts it in
contrib?\end{just checking}
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Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some time around Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:07:24 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: elvis-tiny is small enough to fit on too (although that may have changed now that we use slang rather than ncurses - can elvis-tiny use slang??) and provides a decent editor for people who can't/won't use crap. With all these elvis-tiny discussions, I have to remind everyone that elvis is non-free. Technically, it shouldn't even be present in the base system (is it still?). No. elvis is non-free; elvis-tiny is not. Look at the copyright files. AIUI elvis-tiny is a much earlier version of elvis which was still free. Or something. Of course the copyright files may be ``inaccurate'', I'm disillusioned enough to realise that's a very real possibility these days. -- James ~Yawn And Walk North~ http://yawn.nocrew.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libungif?
it needs a symlink from libungif to libgif3g... just do: (from memory, should be right) % ln -s /usr/lib/libgif3g.so.3 /usr/local/lib/libungif.so.3 % ldconfig and it should work fine. or, if you want libungif (which is free, libgif3g is not) it's in slink/graphics On 19 Jun 1998, Steve Dunham wrote: Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just installed Jim Pick's Gnome .20 .debs and they're all complaining that libungif.so.3 can't be found. Where would it be? There's no libungif package, according to www.debian.org/packages.html. They are in slink. The depends in gnome is screwed up. It says that it depends on (libgif3g | libungif3g), but panel is linked against libungif.3.so, which is not contained in the libgif3g package. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Username length inconsistencies.
On Sun, May 31, 1998 at 11:32:18PM -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote: Wow, I think I'm going to open a zoo for root-checking methods:) Okay, how about this: cat /usr/local/bin/getuid #!/bin/sh USERNAME=`whoami` IFS=: set `grep ^$USERNAME /etc/passwd` echo $3 -- Deep in the fundamental heart of mind and universe, there is a reason - Slartibartfast Noel Maddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New gnome packages
be sure to check out the panel... it's cool. -brad On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: Am I correct that we currently do not have a complete desktop with gnome? Since there is no wm yet, it's pretty difficult to judge it. Also it seems some libraries/binaries are compiled with debug flags set. For intance I got this when using gnome-terminal: ** WARNING **: gnome_message_box_set_modal is deprecated. $ [l,1,1] [s,1,1] ,1,1] [e,1,1] [x,1,1] [i,1,1] [t,1,1] ,1,1] errno = 0, saverrno = 5 out of data on read Finally there is one incorrect dependency. gnome-utils depend on libobgtk0 but there is only libobgtk1 Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein Fire! | Tel: (+49) 2405/4670-44 Use Debian GNU/Linux! | Fax: (+49) 2405/4670-10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More corrupted utmp/wtmp
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote: : $ last : ;* *.*5 192.168.5.51 Wed Dec 31 21:26 still logged in : : wtmp begins Tue Jun 16 08:45:00 1998 Do you have ssh installed? (or anything else from non-US) ... I seem to recall some troubles with the libc5 version of ssh ... yes, ssh is installed on both machines. I will try rebuilding it... I will post the results of the trial. :) I'm pretty sure this is the fault of xterm. After a logout, it does this. Do an ldd on ssh before rebuilding. Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More corrupted utmp/wtmp
I rebuild ssh. Now last works: (no lost info) $ last troy ttyp0192.168.5.51 Fri Jun 19 12:40 still logged in troy ttyp0192.168.1.5 Fri Jun 19 11:00 - 11:00 (00:00) troy tty2 Thu Jun 18 09:03 still logged in troy tty1 Thu Jun 18 09:00 still logged in root tty1 Thu Jun 18 08:45 - 09:00 (00:14) troy ttyp1192.168.5.51 Tue Jun 16 13:58 - 14:09 (00:10) troy ttyp0192.168.5.51 Tue Jun 16 13:47 - 16:29 (02:41) reboot system boot Tue Jun 16 09:59 root tty1 Tue Jun 16 08:58 - 09:54 (00:55) reboot system boot Tue Jun 16 08:52 troy tty3 Tue Jun 16 08:45 - crash (00:06) wtmp begins Tue Jun 16 08:45:00 1998 Thanks finn! troy At 09:05 AM 6/19/98 -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote: : I am having problems on 2 machines (both upgraded from bo). with the : utmp/wtmp. : : The output below is from a machine that never has had an Xterm running : (telnet access only): : : $ last : ;* *.*5 192.168.5.51 Wed Dec 31 21:26 still logged in : : wtmp begins Tue Jun 16 08:45:00 1998 : : I have similar things on the other machine, which only occasionally runs an : xterminal (it really gets messed up after exiting an xterm, otherwise it : looks similar to above. : : I used the autoup.sh script to go from bo to hamm, and everything else : seems to be working splendidly. : : Any tips on what to look at? Do you have ssh installed? (or anything else from non-US) ... I seem to recall some troubles with the libc5 version of ssh ... -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Intenet To Package: Electric Eyes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 19-Jun-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I did check the WNPP this time! ;) Thanks for pointing out my error, everyone on debian-private. Maybe you missed the packets that are available already? This is what my bash has to say: # [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s eeyes # Package: eeyes # Status: install ok installed # Priority: optional # Section: graphics # Installed-Size: 67 # Maintainer: Luis Francisco Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Version: 0.1-2 # Depends: gdk-imlib, libc6, libgtk1 (= 1:0.99.4), libjpegg6a, libpng0g, # libtiff3g, xlib6g (= 3.3-5), zlib1g # Description: Simple image viewing program # ElectricEyes allows you to view and do simple manipulate of several image # formats and gives a nice thumbnail selection mechanism. Greetings Florian - --- Florian Hinzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PGP-Key fingerprint: DD 61 74 34 04 FB 8A BD 43 54 83 38 0C 82 EF B1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNYqLkCwSmQbonMu5AQEFNgP7BtnWg/25Z2vMITCjvY7/orUME1LhCisH CoAzB3lToOju2L4trOQRW0fc6DfcNc89iSDGjb7w9+B8sNm8PVHHUU0O8FaaVQsv HBYvaGpSwmKnsZ0t4VBp4m2R15TbogblvAOL+KMfBEa4peOrT9N8Qnbrz/ftMddy W/NY2dcsuco= =GxZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fate of binutils-m68k-palmos-coff
Hi, I sent this inquiry to the current maintainer and the wnpp maintainer but haven't yet received any reply, so I thought I'd ask here. In a nutshell, the situation is this: There is a package called binutils-m68k-palmos-coff that is part of a cross-compiler to compile programs to run on a PalmPilot. However, by itself it is largely useless. One also need the gcc and gdb packages. However, gcc-m68k-palmos-coff and gdb-m68k-palmos-coff are both orphaned, and the binutils-m68k-palmos-coff is outdated. (One actually needs pilrc as well, but that is from a separate source tree and not at issue here.) So, last weekend I packaged up prc-tools (which containcs the m68k-palmos-coff of all three of those programs, as in the upstream version). It has newer binutils than the binutils-m68k-palmos-coff package. prc-tools properly conflicts, replaces, and provides the older packages. This in all is a Good Thing since gcc-m68k-palmos-coff and gdb-m68k-palmos-coff are dropped, and without gcc at least, binutils-m68k-palmos-coff is pretty well useless. So, since we have newer, working versions of all these tools, should binutils-m68k-palmos-coff be removed? This is the question I asked its maintainer but haven't heard back yet. My reccommendation would be to remove binutils-m68k-palmos-coff. In any case, the gcc and gdb m68k-palmos-coff packages can be removed from the wnpp list since working versions now exist. John -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exciting Pilot/Debian news
It's probably going to stay like that until the upstream kpilot maintainer fixes the build process, which is a mess at this point. I spent a couple hours trying to fix it but got nowhere so I will just leave it as-is at the moment :-) John Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John kpilot -- KDE hotsync tool Hm.. kpilot seems to have been statically linked with libpisock. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]% dpkg -l 'libpi*' 1:38PM Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii libpisock-dev 0.8.11-1 static libraries for communicating with a Pi ii libpisock3 0.8.11-1 Libraries for communicating with a Pilot PDA but kpilot doesn't depend on libpisock3 -- perhaps it's not dynamically linked? It should be, though. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]% dpkg --status kpilot 1:38PM Package: kpilot Status: install ok installed Installed-Size: 1207 Maintainer: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 3.0.2-1 Depends: kdelibs0g (= 2:980312), libc6, libstdc++2.8 (= 2.90.26-1), qt1g (= 1.33-5), xlib6g (= 3.3-5) Description: PalmPilot/III hotsync package Kpilot provides file transfer and sync capabilities for owners of the 3COM PalmPilot or Palm III PDAs. It currently includes conduits for mail, datebook, and memo pad. Also, kpilot for some reason includes a lot of extra files, like: /usr/X11R6/lib/libpisock.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libpisock.la Yuck! Those shouldn't be in there. Good luck. -- Brought to you by the letters P and V and the number 19. I'm with insurance. -- 12 Monkeys Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow? http://www.debian.org/ I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exciting Pilot/Debian news
Behan Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Goerzen wrote: pilot-manager -- Perl/TK hotsync tool (waiting for me to download and try it out) pilot-manager is already packaged. In fact I've been using it for weeks already. I went back and ran a find in the main FTP area on master and in Incoming and found no pilot-manager package. Where is this? -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#23618: debmake: debstd corrupts .a files!
repoen 23618 stop I'm sorry, but saying that I should not use debmake because it is buggy does not fix the bug and the bug should not be closed! Corrupting files in packages that I am building is very serious indeed, and if I didn't set the severity to important or greater, I probably should have. debstd issues no warnings about it, and it took me several hours to figure out the problem, since this is a package with a source tree of over 100 megs and each rebuild takes in excess of 30 minutes. (Not only that, but the install method is complex and I looked everywhere else first, assuming that it could not possibly be debstd) Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: debstd is not supposed to guess that. stripping a library using just strip --strip-debug is ok for 95% of cases, if your case is in the remaining 5%, then the debstd provided by debmake is not suitable for your package. I would suggest either: a) debstd-ize your debian/rules Eh? debian/rules already uses debstd. b) copy debstd to your debian directory and change the debstd invocation by debian/debstd (probably adding a chmod +x debian/debstd in the build target). Then you can fine-tune your own debstd according to the special requirements of your package. OK, this could be a possibility then -- comment out that part. But still, I don't think it's a good solution to require me to hack the source. Further, there is no documentation anywhere that indicates that debstd may corrupt files. I do not consider this to be a bug in debstd. You are welcome to reassign it to the appropriate package (binutils?) then, but it is not fixed and should not be closed. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More corrupted utmp/wtmp
After rebuilding, everything works, and I have the lost entries back. here is the output of ldd: $ ldd sshd1.old libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000b000) $ ldd sshd libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4000f000) libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40015000) libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x40042000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40045000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) Hope this may help isolate the issue, troy At 01:24 PM 6/19/98 -0400, Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote: : $ last : ;* *.*5 192.168.5.51 Wed Dec 31 21:26 still logged in : : wtmp begins Tue Jun 16 08:45:00 1998 Do you have ssh installed? (or anything else from non-US) ... I seem to recall some troubles with the libc5 version of ssh ... yes, ssh is installed on both machines. I will try rebuilding it... I will post the results of the trial. :) I'm pretty sure this is the fault of xterm. After a logout, it does this. Do an ldd on ssh before rebuilding. Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package: 3d modellers and VRML tools
I intend to package several VRML tools I have found while doing an article on GNU/Linux and WWW/VRML browsers, they are (in no particular order..) - Viper, Vorlon, mcf and 'pw'; VRML 1.0/2.0/97 parsers - Libs por developping VRML apps: libJava, libC++ - FreeWRL, kwrl: VRML Browsers (kwrl is made as part of KDE so I'll have to contact kde maintainers as well as kwrl's author) - moonlight and GLspace: 3D modellers (which also export to VRML) Most of them are GPL'd but I have doubts in several of them, I'll keep you informed. I will probably not start packaging them until July (after final exams) and after I have tested them thoroughly. It will be a busy July, after all :) Regards Javi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Access to an Alpha for package compilation?
Is there a mechanism to request access to a Debian GNU/Linux Alpha system for compilation of a package? I am the maintainer of the r-base package which provides a language for statistical computing and graphics. I am also on the development team for the upstream sources. We recently released R-0.62.1 which I packaged it up for slink (it was too late for hamm). I have no trouble compiling the package on i386 systems and it passes our regression tests. I can compile the upstream sources on Solaris/SPARC and Solaris/Intel. I am having problems with Digital Unix on Alpha. I would like to see if Debian GNU/Linux on Alpha can compile and run R cleanly. -- Douglas Bates[EMAIL PROTECTED] Statistics Department608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madisonhttp://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access to an Alpha for package compilation?
On 19 Jun 1998, Douglas Bates wrote: I am the maintainer of the r-base package which provides a language for statistical computing and graphics. I am also on the development team for the upstream sources. We recently released R-0.62.1 which I packaged it up for slink (it was too late for hamm). I have no trouble compiling the package on i386 systems and it passes our regression tests. I can compile the upstream sources on Solaris/SPARC and Solaris/Intel. I am having problems with Digital Unix on Alpha. I would like to see if Debian GNU/Linux on Alpha can compile and run R cleanly. Funny you should mention it...I was just going to fetch it and build it. If you give me some test info, I'd be happy to test it for you too Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access to an Alpha for package compilation?
Christopher C Chimelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 19 Jun 1998, Douglas Bates wrote: I am the maintainer of the r-base package which provides a language for statistical computing and graphics. I am also on the development team for the upstream sources. We recently released R-0.62.1 which I packaged it up for slink (it was too late for hamm). I have no trouble compiling the package on i386 systems and it passes our regression tests. I can compile the upstream sources on Solaris/SPARC and Solaris/Intel. I am having problems with Digital Unix on Alpha. I would like to see if Debian GNU/Linux on Alpha can compile and run R cleanly. Funny you should mention it...I was just going to fetch it and build it. If you give me some test info, I'd be happy to test it for you too After building the package type make tests That will do several tests in a subdirectory called tests/Examples. On a Digital Unix system it does nothing because the program dies as soon as it starts up. On other systems you get several .Rout files and one great gronking .ps file from the graphics. Take a look at it under gv or something similar. If you get things that look like data plots, we are running. Another test are installation is to start R which should give you R : Copyright 1998, The R Development Core Team Version 0.62.2 in progress (June 20, 1998) R is free software and comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. You are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type ?license or ?licence for distribution details. R is a collaborative project with many contributors. Type ?contributors for a list. Type demo() for some demos, help() for on-line help, or help.start() for a HTML browser interface to help. then type, in response to the prompt demo(graphics) That will check the X11 graphics driver. You are asked to keep hitting Return. When you get back to the prompt, use q() to quit. (^D also works, I think.) Thanks in advance. -- Douglas Bates[EMAIL PROTECTED] Statistics Department608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madisonhttp://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package JDE (Emacs Java Development Environment)
On 1998/06/19, James Troup wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruud de Rooij) writes:
Package: jde
[...]
Depends: emacs20 | xemacs20-bin
^^
Why? We run JDE on Emacs 19.34 here in the department just fine.
According to the requirements as listed on http://sunsite.auc.dk/jde/, to
get JDE to work with [x]emacs 19.x, requires additional and updated elisp
packages, but JDE works out-of-the-box for [x]emacs 20.x.
Recommends: jdk1.1-dev
\begin{just checking}You realise, of course, this puts it in
contrib?\end{just checking}
Yes, I do realize that. I think a Suggests type dependency is too weak
here since a significant amount of the funcationality of JDE would be lost
if jdk1.1-dev wouldn't be installed.
Greetings,
Ruud.
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Re: Bug#23618: debmake: debstd corrupts .a files!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I will repeat what I said: debstd is not supposed to guess that your static library is in coff format, because normal libraries in Linux are ELF. stripping a library using just strip --strip-debug is ok for 95% of cases, if your case is in the remaining 5%, then the debstd provided by debmake, as is, is not suitable for your package. I would like to add that there are two different issues here: 1. You didn't know that debstd does strip --strip-debug on static libraries. By reading debstd(1), I realize that this may be a documentation bug in debmake, if you like. In such case I can retitle this bug to something like debstd behaviour is not fully documented and add a phrase saying debstd strips static libraries in the man page. Ok? 2. Normal strip seems to mess up a coff library. This is a completely different issue. If you think this is a bug in binutils, submit a bug against binutils. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNYq2XCqK7IlOjMLFAQEyPQP/W5ydMmQqHu52kWqt4hAH3zp2V7vqzpEx GoNuUK9/N2pjwGjoYAalgIUeNXZ6o7H9F+85gfK0p/Ra07CUgxpDg4k0qG+ZwLDI pL1oRyiFpP9iJRtVto1iLJbsbuAzzoQj7C1r4lOKlWpMPbDa1rMl7goNoFXcXaxL FJyPqs2YSvM= =4p2t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: 3d modellers and VRML tools
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 08:12:07PM +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: - moonlight and GLspace: 3D modellers (which also export to VRML) ^ Is thsi Moonlight Creator? Moonlight Creator is already packaged under the name moonlight. It is also not listed on the WNPP ..so it is not available either. I don't know about the others ...but I think 3D modelers are cool :) I must learn how to use them... -Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: joilet fs for official cdrom
i was told, that a bug with joilet+rr in 1.12* was fixed in 1.12a4, but i would feel better with someone who has tested it. I used the mkisofs you included in the tarball... which one is it? It doesn't say... it should be 1.12a4, the newest release. it's static compiled (so bo system can be used, too). it's not the one from the debian package. andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: joilet fs for official cdrom
using mkisofs (the one Andreas includes) it worked just fine on a PC with a QDI MB (it says something like Titanium IB+ TX... it's a 430TX chipset). so the current mkisofs generates bootable cdroms ? (i have to admin, i think i didn't change the mkisofs in 0.12, but i'm not sure. maybe you can check the one you use with date and/or md5sum against the current ?) andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: 3d modellers and VRML tools
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 08:12:07PM +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: - Viper, Vorlon, mcf and 'pw'; VRML 1.0/2.0/97 parsers - Libs por developping VRML apps: libJava, libC++ - FreeWRL, kwrl: VRML Browsers (kwrl is made as part of KDE so I'll have to contact kde maintainers as well as kwrl's author) - moonlight and GLspace: 3D modellers (which also export to VRML) ^ Moonlight Creator is already available. I'm the maintainer (well, actually, I haven't uploaded anything yet, but Joey made the initial releases). I'm working on 0.5.3 right now... I expect to upload it over the weekend (next weekend at most), I have been working on other packages, and I haven't had the change to fix a few things with 0.5.3... What exactly are libJava and libC++? Those have pretty generic names if they are modelers or VRML tools... wouldn't you be interested in packaging BMRT? Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing Documentation? (Bugs: Severity, debian/control: Priority
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi! Maybe they aren't there, maybe I am too tired: I don't find to things: - - An explanation of the available severity levels I may use in bug reports and - - an explanation of the available priorities I may use in the debian/control file. I know I've read about these once, but I can't find them now. I only remember a package is important if some longtime linux-users would say damn, where is foo/bar if it isn't there. I liked that explanation .. ;) I will gladly receive a RTFM if you give me a pointer where to read. Thanks Florian - --- Florian Hinzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PGP-Key fingerprint: DD 61 74 34 04 FB 8A BD 43 54 83 38 0C 82 EF B1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNYrOYCwSmQbonMu5AQHuGAQAkek7D8pYu7r/sSL/0kyopxlbXO7vydhD l75GcRF8OTDDQJeMVMPlGC0/u10xCggaEZvIzIi6+rUmtQv79+rjWXssrmQRTlx5 oslVWgGHEVKwdpdy+3DR6uEZXnExNlniewS0QfOpUzfLS5dJKlT+6DPEuqlK3jWh RWMJmkSljxA= =l58l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
p3nfs - got it compiled with libc6 - what should I do?
Hello, I've just got a patch for p3nfs to make it compile with libc6 (had to apply a couple of tweaks to make it compile under Debian hamm). Can I help the Hamm Bug Stamp-Out effort by simply uploading my version? I'm an inexperienced debian developer (packaged c2ps) so any help about this would be appreciated. (I'm also off the debian-devel list because I'm in the middle of finals period, so please cc replys to me). Thanks, --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing Documentation? (Bugs: Severity, debian/control: Priority
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Florian Hinzmann wrote: An explanation of the available severity levels I may use in bug reports http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer.html and an explanation of the available priorities I may use in the debian/control file. /usr/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch2.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNYrQpyqK7IlOjMLFAQGMQQP+KXRF8ulMFHuzuCn21Gw4fBPVivwvcdO4 E4D4TsjvvXUCyXh7OecwS02IPuYhMt7RyJ3c7sfcsGkOit2Lh5nSRClQ2qWfZQbl Vo5+yQ7Raz3sPBCqTMh68YXs4CUGEBscCcKZnFkOzgBTIMZiUQpmMXvr1jZbhO8N PNJamE7gZ3w= =JwaF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where is sed in slink?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian/home/ftp/debian/dists/slinkfind | grep sed ./main/binary-alpha/base/sed_2.05-22.deb ./main/binary-m68k/base/sed_2.05-22.deb ./main/binary-powerpc/base/sed_2.05-22.deb ./main/binary-sparc/base/sed_2.05-22.deb Available for all architectures but i386!? A lot of other important stuff is missing as well, like shellutils, textutils, mbr, util-linux.. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rsync vs. ftp usage
is rsync realy so good ? if it is, and rsync can make sure that transmissions will be always correkt and complete, and it can continues transmissions, i will consider createing the cdrom disk images as one big file, not splitting them and distributeing them only via rsync. but only if rsync is realy so good. one big fat image is IMO good, because people can download one image, burn it, remove it and download the next. i know that there are people out ther, who don't have the extra 640 mb to cat a splitted image back into one file. people told me, in this case cat `ls x??` |cd-write-app ... could be used. is this true ? anyway, as this adds extra complexity i don't like it. i want to keep it simple. is rsync available for windows ? i know there are people, who have cdwriters only at work, and there only have windows machines ... i would like it, if they could use rsync, too. the ftp method is well tested and seems to work. i can't say this for rsync, but i like it a lot. please give me more imput. andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#23618: debmake: debstd corrupts .a files!
reopen 23618 reassign 23618 binutils quit Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: debstd is not supposed to guess that your static library is in coff format, because normal libraries in Linux are ELF. stripping a library using just strip --strip-debug is ok for 95% of cases, if your case is in the remaining 5%, then the debstd provided by debmake, as is, is not suitable for your package. I would say that debstd should not touch that which it does not understand. This is perfectly reasonable. It does not understand coff, which is fine. It should not touch it, though. It so happens that touching it reduces a package with 100 megs of source to less usefulness than cat. 2. Normal strip seems to mess up a coff library. This is a completely different issue. If you think this is a bug in binutils, submit a bug against binutils. I have reassigned this one to binutils then. Closing it is not appropriate since the problem has not been dealt with. Also, file corruption is not a documentation issue only. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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will fix then some important stuff on the cdrom (easier access to the tools like rawrite etc.). andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About the Hamm Freeze (!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- James Troup, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: Of course, I agree, but my point was that gdbm *Shouldn't* be required and although it will need to be made so in hamm as a kludge, I tried to get this fixed properly back in March. And the point that I was trying to make was that it was too great of a change and that I'd do it in the next release. We WILL break people's scripts. Darren - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daft.com/~torin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Darren Stalder/2608 Second Ave, @282/Seattle, WA 98121-1212/USA/+1-800-921-4996 @ Sysadmin, webweaver, postmaster for hire. C/Perl/CGI programmer and tutor. @ @Make a little hot-tub in your soul. @ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBNYrj+44wrq++1Ls5AQE/PwP/SscliqYy5/gmPSoLwxr0UFY6h0atPsyz 31rXFSPsXNI7TCwBcTbWFFxj5Jo9AuGEd0uMFl2yoga7qsnIVgq/2F+kb0fEV94L 79NCKnYn+Xc0vxvv07Ir0/Z8vkEUPgLWz1gcCUA5+MwI/MYcQoJ83rHrwuqn9HhO lIRCeo79NmM= =bVSg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serious performance bug in Perl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Daniel Martin, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: My... it's been a while since I was investigating perl internals (writing C code that was callable from perl) - at least two years, which somehow seems much longer. Well, I'll have my machine download the perl source tonight and see what I can see... Thanks for taking a look at this. I won't have time to do so until Tuesday; it being Solstice Weekend and all. Darren - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daft.com/~torin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Darren Stalder/2608 Second Ave, @282/Seattle, WA 98121-1212/USA/+1-800-921-4996 @ Sysadmin, webweaver, postmaster for hire. C/Perl/CGI programmer and tutor. @ @Make a little hot-tub in your soul. @ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBNYrkd44wrq++1Ls5AQE60AQAgp7zWlwWvs0usGU/V+C2zGVh6I7st/ir qPGabYlDtF6nm/nIL8K5BzH+4v7oZw2NhKfdFY3793HoIbgJE2uUqYqcNnc3BDRf +k2A3H1o06UQk071b46ne5L7JN776ta3eHWL0VnxkoWmyJlm1a+4JHZ4P+pRvGfH bq1SrTAUguw= =YeSA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MetroX installer.
Has anyone looked into a MetroX installer package, or the like? It comes tar'ed or rpm'd . I'm thinking of all the Thinkpads with a neomagic videocard. I was trying to help a friend install Debian on one. (The tecra boot disk didn't work, but who knows, maybe the floppies were bad...) He'll probably end up going with RH, or worse, keep lose95 . Just a thought ... John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
