Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

[David Starner]

On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 11:33:54PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> Would you knock it off with the flamebait? 

That wasn't flamebait. You may have disagreed with it, it may have
be inaccurate or logically wrong, but it wasn't flamebait.

> I am not suggesting that anyone
> be forced to read any number of README.Debian files, just that it will,
> quite naturally, become part of the package installation process with the
> help of package management UIs.

And I disagree with your suggestion. Can you offer evidence?
 
> Not all README.Debians are alike.  Many of them contain information of the
> form "here is how Debian's foobar differs from upstream foobar, which you
> may be familiar with".  As such, it is not "in case of emergency"
> instructions, but a README in the traditional sense, to be read _before_
> using the software.

I glanced through the README.Debians on my disk. Out of about 15, 5 or 6
would be helpful to read before using the package; 7 or 8 had some
information that might be interesting to someone knowledgable about the
software; and a couple were worthless (empty or basically repeated the
description.) None of them were essential. 

If I'm in a documentation reading mood, I may as well pick up the README
file and other stuff in the /usr/share/doc/foo directory. I don't see
the reason to single out the README.Debian file.

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Re: Debian testing - uninstallable packages

[Anthony Towns]

On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM +0100, Andrew M. Bishop wrote:
> [ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list   ]
> [ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ]

Actually, the list still exists, and is available at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/. Not sure why it doesn't seem to be
listed amongst all the other mailing lists.

> I have seen a problem with two packages that I wanted to install from
> testing not being installable.  These were gnumeric and gnucash, so I
> raised bug reports about them - currently unanswered.

Right. There're a few packages that aren't installable in woody. There're
also a number that're out of sync, or that have RC bugs, or whatever. It's
not perfect, and it shouldn't really be expected to be.

FWIW, there're accurate lists of uninstallable packages (which does take into
account versions and conflicts, but ignores recommends and suggests) at
http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Orphaning all packages

[Martin Albert]

On Saturday 15 September 2001 10:08, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I'm afraid I don't really want to be co-maintainer either. Sorry.

I was afraid you'd say that.
If i see it orphaned for too long, i'll once ITA publib-dev.

Have fun! Martin

Re: [RFC] Developer documentation packages.

[Junichi Uekawa]

Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

> 
> doc-gen ebook-foo pdf
> 

That is a very interesting idea.
I'd go for one... something like this ?
(NB. not tested throughly, nor complete yet.)





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Re: Orphaning all packages -- adopting syslog-summary

[Tommi Virtanen]

Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Package: syslog-summary
> Description: Summarize the contents of a syslog log file.
>  This program summarizes the contents of a log file written by syslog,
>  by displaying each unique (except for the time) line once, and also
>  the number of times such a line occurs in the input. The lines are
>  displayed in the order they occur in the input.

I use syslog-summary extensively, I can take it.

The question is -- can I do upstreamish things to it, too?

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neat mutt bug.

[Adam McKenna]

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Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
into thinking Branden actually signed this.

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--Adam

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Re: New update_excuses output

[Paul Slootman]

On Sat 15 Sep 2001, Simon Richter wrote:

> > Would it be possible to also offer a compressed version of these files
> > (update_excuses.html, update_output.txt, etc)? Most browsers can handle
> > uncompressing these on the fly and it makes accessing these lists MUCH
> > faster. As a porter I often use update_excuses for tracking down
> > packages that are out of date (on alpha) for longer than normal (usually
> > indicating a problem that can't be handled by the build daemon), and
> > hence look at that list quite regularly.
> 
> It may also be an idea to generate per-arch excuses files.

I also look at the info about other arches sometimes; e.g. if a package
is out of date for alpha, but also for most other arches, I figure it's
the responsibility of the package's maintainer to get it in working
order, as there's abviously something wrong in general with it. If it's
only alpha (or maybe one other arch), then it's probable that it's an
alpha-specific thing that I may be solve quickly (having seen the same
problem in other packages, perhaps...)

So I find the current output OK, and the compressed version works nicely
now; thanks, AJ, for the quick fix :-)


Paul Slootman

Re: neat mutt bug.

[Martin F Krafft]

also sprach Adam McKenna (on Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:17:37AM -0700):
> Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
> into thinking Branden actually signed this.

oooh. this is ugly. reported it to bugtraq? if not bugtraq, then at
least michael elkins should know...

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Re: neat mutt bug.

[Adam McKenna]

On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:34:22PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
> also sprach Adam McKenna (on Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:17:37AM -0700):
> > Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
> > into thinking Branden actually signed this.
> 
> oooh. this is ugly. reported it to bugtraq? if not bugtraq, then at
> least michael elkins should know...

I just sent a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED], hopefully that list accepts
submissions from non-members.  I personally don't think it's bugtraq worthy,
since careful checking will reveal a bad date, but still, it's important
because the casual reader will most likely believe the data was signed.

--Adam
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Re: [RFC] Developer documentation packages.

[Junichi Uekawa]

Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit

> 
>   So we'd have some sort of book-get package, like the controversial
> porn-get (which shares the characteristics you've described)?

Heh, so we could indeed have 

book-get install packagename

and have preferences for documentation format.
Also, some book-cache search command.

"porn-get" could even be reused/extended to do this job.
The last part (of translating documentation formats)
is not implemented yet, but should be trivial,
really.

regards,
junichi


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Re: neat mutt bug.

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Adam McKenna wrote:
> Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person
> into thinking Branden actually signed this.

That's documented, nothing special about it.

Wichert.

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Re: Problem with resolv.conf and search list

[Bruno BEAUFILS]

Bernd Eckenfels writes:
-> host is not using the system resolver but contacting name servers directly.
-> You may want to use ping to check it, instead.

That's what exactly what I tried before. Does not work either :-(

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Re: Problem with resolv.conf and search list

[Bruno BEAUFILS]

Philippe Troin writes:
-> The parser for resolv.conf is very stupid.
-> Try:
-> 
->search lifl.fr univ-lille1.fr
->search iut-info.univ-lille1.fr
->nameserver 134.206.10.18
->nameserver 134.206.1.4
->nameserver 134.206.1.15

It does not work either because with this configuration only the last domain
is searched for (aka iut-info.univ-lille1.fr) and am unable to find host in
domain univ-lille1.fr.

The man page of resolv.conf says there may be only on search line containing
only 6 domains and which must not be longer than 256 characters. 

My configuration respect exactly that, but it does not work.

I would like to have a look at the code just in order to understand how is the
job done ? Did someone know in where the code of the resolver is situated :
glibc (maybe get_host_by_name) ?

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Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

[Josip Rodin]

On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:14:52PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> > People shouldn't have to sift through a bunch of entries of boring and
> > meaningless text (to them, at least :) to get such information...
> 
> The same being true of README.Debian.

Everything in README.Debian should be admin-oriented information, IMHO, in
which case it wouldn't be boring and meaningless. Perhaps they had already
read it, though, but even so, it's easier to skim through a few paragraphs
one has already read than through lots of terse changelog entries.

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Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

[Josip Rodin]

On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 06:51:21PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > > There is already a standard, reliable way of communicating package
> > > changes to the admin. Amazingly enough, it's called a "changelog". I
> > > usually find them under /usr/share/doc//...
> > 
> > We can't really expect the admins to parse through hundreds of changelogs;
> 
> But if it becomes common place to list changes in debconf notes, then
> the admins will be overwhelmed by them as well, if every upgrade leads
> to 50 new e-mails.

I agree that the maintainers would need to pay more attention to the note
priorities and locations.

> Consider what we're talking about: A package is moving files from one
> directory to another, and replacing the original directory with a
> symlink to the new one (assuming that's what Elie decides to do). Why
> does every admin need to be notified?

Ah, in this case it is indeed not necessary to notify the admin.

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Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

[Josip Rodin]

On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:46:52PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> In the future, though, package management frontends should make it easy to
> view README.Debian at installation time.

I agree, a button called "Debian README" in an X frontend would really be
convenient.

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rdate can't connect socket

[Bob Hilliard]

 I posted the following to -user three days ago with no response.
Can someone here help?

 I have the following command in a cron.daily script:
  rdate time.mist.god

 This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past
week or two it returns:
 rdate: Could not connect socket: Connection refused

 This message returns almost instantly - too quickly, I believe,
to be a connection refused at the remote server.

 Can this be a socket on my machine that refuses a connection?

 I have rdate 1.3-3.

Bob
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Re: rdate can't connect socket

[Samuel Tardieu]

On 16/09, Bob Hilliard wrote:

|  This has worked consistently for a long time, but for the past
| week or two it returns:
|  rdate: Could not connect socket: Connection refused
| 
|  This message returns almost instantly - too quickly, I believe,
| to be a connection refused at the remote server.
| 
|  Can this be a socket on my machine that refuses a connection?

Did you by chance update your firewall? Could it be rejecting this outgoing
connection?

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  800도 온열에서 살균처리하여 부서짐이 없고 습기에 강하며 벌레가 생기지않는 단단한
  “환”(알갱이) 으로 제조하여 건강에 도움이되는 향기나는 침구류 를 상품화
  하였읍니다.예로부터 건강향기 침구류라하여 몸에 좋으면서 고유의 향을 24절기에 맞는
  재료인 당귀, 천궁, 백작약, 숙지황, 목과, 오매, 원지, 석창포, 독활, 강활, 창출,
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  등을 각각 그 기운에 맞는 식물재료를 배합해 환으로 만들어 자연 재료의 식물인 자연 향을
  그대로 느낄 수 있고, 알갱이로 만들어 사용함에 따른 마모 등으로 가루가 발생되지 않으며,
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향방온열보료

 

 





향방온열보료(요1인용,2인용) 는
생명의 기를 보충하고 병독을 흡수하며 향약 성분이 인체에 흡수되어 자연 치유력을
고조시켜 주며, 전신에 은은한 한약 향과 함께 지압효과를 주기 때문에 온 몸 구석구석의
뭉친곳,결린곳을 자연스럽게 풀어주며 피순환 및 기 순환을 원활히 도와줍니다. 기가 허한
노약자, 잔병이 많은 어린이, 온 몸이 이유 없이 아픈 분, 자연 치유력을 높이고 싶은
분이 사용하면 온몸에 생기가 도는 것을 느낄 수 있습니다. 병든 세포가싱싱한
세포로,뭉친 병 덩어리를 풀어주며, 난치병의 치유 기간을 단축시켜줍니다.
요2인용 온도조절은 좌우 각각다르게 조절이 되며 수맥을잡아주며 전자파차단
특허기술적용으로 깊은 수면을 취할 수 있게 해주며 수면 시간이 짧더라도 충분한 피로
회복의 효과를 누릴 수 있습니다.

 


향방베개(향기나는)

 

 




향방베개(향기나는) 는적당한 차가움과
적당한 딱딱함 그리고 통기성과 좋은 베개의
조건으로(적당한차거움(두한족열)적당한딱딱함지압효과) 서늘 한 기운과 압력과 열을 받기
쉬운 복잡한 모세혈관들의 열기를 식혀주고 고혈압, 저혈압, 신경질환, 우울증 등의
다양한 질환에 효과가 있습니다. 향기베개는 아침까지 오래 베어도 베개 온도가 따뜻해지지
않고 시원한 기운이 감돌며 늘 머리를 맑고 상쾌하게 해줍니다. 잔병과 감기에 시달리는
아기의 건강과 시력을 좋게 하고 두뇌를 총명하게 해주며, 어린이,학생이 베면,
기억력,집중력이 좋아져 공부가 잘 되며, 주부 직장인이 베면,
뇌스트레스,두통,불면증,목디스크,우울해소, 비염에 좋으며, 고령자가 베면,
고혈압,중풍관리,치매 예방에 좋습니다. 혈액순환이 원활하도록 도와줘 정신을 맑게해
주며, 상시 정상적인 뇌의 온도를 유지할 수 있도록 해주기 때문에 귀가 잘 들리고 

Re: Problem with resolv.conf and search list

[Francois Cerbelle]

Le Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 02:26:49AM +0200, Bruno BEAUFILS ecrit :
> {watney-root-/etc}# host sole
> sole.lifl.fr does not exist (Authoritative answer)
> {watney-root-/etc}# host sole.iut-info.univ-lille1.fr
> sole.iut-info.univ-lille1.frA   134.206.40.114
Did you simply try dig, instead of host ?

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Bug#112463: ITP: siemens-dvb-firmware -- Firmware files from convergence integrated media GmbH

[Eduard Bloch]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: siemens-dvb-firmware
  Version : 0.9.3
  Upstream Author :  Ralph  Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & Marcus 
 Metzler for convergence integrated media GmbH
* URL : http://linuxtv.org/dvb/
* License : non-free -- binary only, apparently free distributable
Requires further investigation
  Description : Firmware for Fujitsu/Siemens based DVB cards

This package contains some non-free firmware files used by Digital satelite
receiver cards based on the Fujitsu Siemens DVB PCI reference card. The
firmware is needed for the siemens-dvb-drivers package.

-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux zombie 2.4.9 #1 Die Sep 11 22:24:52 CEST 2001 i686
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#112464: ITP: siemens-dvb-drivers-src -- drivers for Siemens based DVB cards

[Eduard Bloch]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: siemens-dvb-drivers-src
  Version : 0.9.3
  Upstream Author : Ralph  Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://linuxtv.org/dvb/
* License : GPL
  Description : drivers for Siemens based DVB cards

This is another early release of a Linux driver for the
Siemens/Fujitsu DVB PCI card. As such there are many features still
missing and not everything might work as intended. But we are at a
point where we think that the driver is useful to some people and an
exchange with a larger user base would be benefitial.
Please note that only the Siemens/Fujitsu DVB card is supported by us.
Other, also identical, cards by other manufacturers may work but are
NOT supported.
Siemens/Fujitsu was the only manufacturer willing to provide
documentation and support for a Linux driver.

-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux zombie 2.4.9 #1 Die Sep 11 22:24:52 CEST 2001 i686
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gettext override disparity

[Santiago Vila]

On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Debian Installer wrote:

> There are disparities between your recently installed upload and the
> override file for the following file(s):
>
> gettext-base_0.10.40-1_i386.deb: priority is overridden from standard to 
> important.
>
> Either the package or the override file is incorrect.  If you think
> the override is correct and the package wrong please fix the package
> so that this disparity is fixed in the next upload.  If you feel the
> override is incorrect then please reply to this mail and explain why.

If you think the package is correct and the override wrong please fix
the override so that this disparity is fixed. If you feel the package
is incorrect then please reply to this mail and explain why.

gettext-base has been standard for two years now. If you feel standard
is incorrect it should be *you* ftp admins who have to explain why,
*before* changing the override file, not me.

Bug#112467: general: rxvt 1:2.6.3-12

[briand]

Package: general
Version: 20010916
Severity: important

OK  I downloaded the testing source code distribution and compiled
it on my system.

I simply did :

./configure
make
make install


Now rxvt works perfectly well.  No more hanging or locking up the system.

Is it possible that the current rxvt binaries are out of sync with
one ore more libraries ?

Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Kernel Version: Linux soggy 2.4.7 #6 Sat Sep 15 14:02:27 PDT 2001 i686 unknown

Re: splitting /var/lib/dpkg/status and handling desc translation

[Michael Bramer]

On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 09:55:14AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Michael Bramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 1.) notification mails
> >This is already fixed.
> 
> >Verybody can stop the server to send this mails. And I send a
> 
> No it's not.  You have to send an email for every package that you maintain.
> This is simply unacceptable.  If I don't stop receiving these mails soon, I
> will have to impose a site-wide ban on mail from that location.

Yes, I know this problem. 

I will improve this and I have add all your packages on the
nonotification list. 

Thanks

Gruss
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Re: franc,ais locale (was Re: A language by any other name)

[Josh Huber]

Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  Mime-Version: 1.0
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>  Content-Disposition: inline
>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> in Cyrille's headers, which look fine.

...same here... I wonder if Gnus is doing some auto-detect action?

I wouldn't think it would add a Content-Type header though :P

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Re: neat mutt bug.

[Aaron Lehmann]

On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 02:33:29PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> That's documented

Where?

Re: neat mutt bug.

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> Where?

Euh, the manual I guess? I know I read it somewhere.

Wichert.

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Bug#112478: ITP: thoteditor -- customizable editor for structured documents

[Yann Dirson]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

  Package name: thoteditor
  Version : 2.1e
  Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://opera.inrialpes.fr/thot/
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/xapps/editors/
  License : BSD-like
  Description : customizable editor for structured documents

Thot is based on thotlib, which has been recently extented at W3C, and
is used by their Amaya browser/editor.  Unfortunately the Thot editor
has not been much worked on lately and some work will be required on
it.

Especially, I believe Thot has the potential to be used as
quasi-wysiwig editor for DocBook and other types of SGML documents.

-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux bylbo 2.2.19+reiserfs+ide #1 Wed Jun 13 20:05:28 CEST 2001 i586
Locale: LANG=français, LC_CTYPE=français

Fwd: Re: uptime

[Martin F Krafft]

woops. that went to -user... sorry...

- Forwarded message from Martin F Krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

also sprach Robert Waldner (on Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:01:26AM +0200):
> Not to give NT any honour, but that´s probably FW-1. It runs reasonably
>  (for commercial-firewall-software - values of) stable on AIX, Solaris and
>  Debian, but the NT-port is...utter crap.

well, that's probably true. but how can you port potentially good
software (i can't quite classify fw-1 as good, but it is a good start)
to a visual patch to a useless extension to a minor patch release for
32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit
operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written
by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.

ever done MFC programming? or windoze API for that sake? h!

> The Policy Editor, OTOH, is quite nice.

sure, but there are better. i forgot the name of the one i have in
mind, i'll post it tomorrow from the office.

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OT: Re: Fwd: Re: uptime

[Jeremy Zawodny]

On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 12:09:52AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote:
> 
> > The Policy Editor, OTOH, is quite nice.
> 
> sure, but there are better. i forgot the name of the one i have in
> mind, i'll post it tomorrow from the office.

Please don't.  It's already off-topic.
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Re: OT: Re: Fwd: Re: uptime

[Martin F Krafft]

also sprach Jeremy Zawodny (on Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:29:15PM -0700):
> > > The Policy Editor, OTOH, is quite nice.
> > 
> > sure, but there are better. i forgot the name of the one i have in
> > mind, i'll post it tomorrow from the office.
> 
> Please don't.  It's already off-topic.

well, the one i had in mind is a very nice GUI to iptables. better
than the policy editor of fw-1.

alright's interested parties, please contact me privately. i should
have the info by tomorrow...

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Re: HW Probe

[Scott Dier]

* Mike Markley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010913 14:47]:
> ignore, or are ignorant  the suggestion in the developers-reference that

Yeah, and if you bigots get any more annoying, you should try and get it
policy too.

Why cant some of you come up with a procmail setup that can at least
flag and/or delete that tripe at which you so hate.

Or just killfile pepople you cant stand.

Just stop the jabbering and whining about it in every comms channel you
people see fit.

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Bug#112486: ITP: dancer-services -- IRC services implementation for dancer-ircd

[Andrew Suffield]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-16
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: dancer-services
* License : GPL
  Description : IRC services implementation for dancer-ircd

dancer-services is an implementation of IRC services (nickserv,
chanserv, etc.), largely based on hybserv but patched to use the
dancer inter-server protocol (and thusly to work with dancer-ircd).

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Re: Preview of new Ghostscript packages - please test

[Torsten Landschoff]

On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 02:43:41AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
> On my todo list for tomorrow:
> 
> - Enabling the Omni driver
> - gimp-print support (stp)
> - Adding the wrappers to gs-common (ps2pdf etc.)

Of course I did not finish this task in the planned time frame. Anyway, 
at least there is now a gs package with the omni and stp drivers.
Everybody with a printer and running unstable please check it
out.

Location: http://people.debian.org/~torsten/gs/

Thanks

Torsten


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Bug#112491: general: sawfish requires a package for SHAPE extension, but does not have a dependency.

[John Hurst]

Package: general
Version: -u 20010917:092115
Severity: important

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/ajh 501 $ sawfish
sawfish: your X server doesn't suppot the SHAPE extension; aborting

-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Kernel Version: Linux hawthorn 2.4.2-2 #1 Sun Apr 8 20:41:30 EDT 2001 i686 
unknown

Re: sox sucks !

[John Galt]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:

>On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 02:37:55PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
>> Em Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:24:01 +0200
>> Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
>>
>> > Thanks to both of you  (Dag Belgïe :)
>> >
>> > Fact is I didn't know about this option, it's documentation is totally 
>> > hidden.
>> > Bug filed.
>> hmmm I learned this option with a simple "mpg123 --help"... is it really
>> hidden? btw, use mpg321 instead of mpg123 as mpg123 is non-free ;)
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ mpg321 --help 2>&1 | grep wav
>> --wav N or -w N  Use wave file N for output
>>
>> []s!
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ mpg123 --help 2>&1 |grep wav
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$
>

   -w  write Output as WAV file

case sensitive...

> :[ !
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ mpg123 --longhelp 2>&1 |grep wav
>-w  --wav   Writes samples as WAV file in  (- is stdout)
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$
>
>Admit you have to know it ...
>
>

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Processed: Re: Bug#112491: general: sawfish requires a package for SHAPE extension, but does not have a dependency.

[Debian Bug Tracking System]

Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> reassign 112491 sawfish
Bug#112491: general: sawfish requires a package for SHAPE extension, but does 
not have a dependency.
Bug reassigned from package `general' to `sawfish'.

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