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Re: Suivi par CVS d'un paquet utilisant dbs ?

2002-08-22 Thread Thomas Parmelan
Le mardi 20 août 2002 à 19:24, d'après
Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 À mon sens, DBS n'est bien que s'il y a plusieurs tarball upstream.

Dans mon cas, l'auteur du paquet Debian officiel utilise DBS. Je ne fais
que maintenir des modifications locales, et le but est de pouvoir les
adapter facilement aux futures versions du paquet officiel : je ne vais
donc pas tout changer juste pour ne pas utiliser DBS ...

 Personnellement, j'utilise dpatch pour gérer 1 tarball source + plusieurs
 patchs.
[...]
 http://cvs.debian.org/gcc-3.1/?cvsroot=debian-gcc

Ça a l'air de ressembler pas mal à DBS, du moins à l'utilisation que
j'en fais. Mais où puis-je trouver de la documentation à ce sujet ?

Les fichiers .dpatch ne sont pas générés à la main j'espère ... avec DBS
le coupe dbs-edit-patch / dbs-update-patch est vraiment pratique pour
réaliser cela.

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[Aide] Packaging de Sympa pour Debian

2002-08-22 Thread Jérôme Marant

Bonjour,

  Afin de conserver un paquet de qualité et plus régulièrement
  à jour, je cherche un (ou deux) co-mainteneur sur le paquet Sympa.

  Je n'utilise plus Sympa depuis un moment (je ne gère plus de
  listes moi-même) et je n'ai pas le temps de suivre les
  listes.

  Les conditions :
  - être utilisateur de Sympa et suivre l'évolution du produit
  - connaître le shell et Perl
  - s'intéresser au packaging Debian dont Debconf
  - idéal : avoir déjà mis le nez dans le fonctionnement du paquet

  Le but étant de monter une (petite) équipe qui travaille sur
  le packaging via CVS.

  Me contacter si intéressé.

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Bug#157810: [ITP]: passivetex -- Macros to process XSL formatting objects

2002-08-22 Thread Fabien Niñoles
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

  Package name: passivetex
  Version : 1.18
  Upstream Author : Sebastian Rahtz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  URL : http://users.ox.ac.uk/~rahtz/passivetex/
  License : BSD like (see below)
  Description : Macros to process XSL formatting objects

  PassiveTeX is a library of TeX macros which can be used to process an
  XML document which results from an XSL transformation to formatting
  objects.

This package need xmltex = 1.9 (not currently in Debian).  I will
contact xmltex maintainer about this.  Working debs can be found at
http://www.tzone.org/~fabien/debian/.

LICENSE:

% Copyright 2002 Sebastian Rahtz/Oxford University  
%  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%
% Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
% a copy of this software and any associated documentation files (the
% ``Software''), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
% without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
% distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
% permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to
% the following conditions:
% 
% The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included
% in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.




Re: Accepted e16menuedit 0.1-5 (i386 source)

2002-08-22 Thread Oohara Yuuma
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Packaging programs with all features or with most used?

2002-08-22 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
  Hi

  I used 'sid' for two years but now (as I don't have net access in
home) I switched to 'woody' as base system and upgraded it a little with
some sid packages. Yesterday ,when I want to install sylpheed-claws
0.8.1 from sid package, I discovered that I didn't get some packages to
make it - but that's ok - I can live with it (or someday get source and
recompile).

  The question is other: Do packages have to be build with all possible
features or with most used (in sylpheed palm pda support is compiled by
default - but does 50% of syl users needs it?) ?


PS I think that I will start to change my Debian 'testing/unstable' to
some kind of DFS (Debian From Scratch) - libgtk2.0-0 2.0.6-1 provides
libgtk2.0-0png3 at my system ;)

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Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Roland McGrath
I think you can get the effect you need just by using -Bsymbolic.  In your
example, build the GTK+ library with -Bsymbolic.  If that causes problems
because some of the library's references should be resolved in the normal
global scope, then confine the code that uses libpng to a wrapper library
that you build with -Bsymbolic.  Then link the GTK+ library against that
shared object, and I think you will get the result you need: the GTK+
library code that uses libpng will be in a DT_SYMBOLIC object and thus
resolve according to its own dependency on the desired libpng soname,
while the application is free to link a conflicting libpng in directly.




Update excuses - please explain

2002-08-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello

   http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html#paul

says:

# paul (- to 0.1.0.2-5)

* Maintainer: Andreas Tille
* 76 days old (needed 2 days)
* paul/m68k unsatisfiable Depends: libgtkdatabox (= 0.1.3)
* paul/sparc unsatisfiable Depends: libgtkdatabox (= 0.1.3)
* Valid candidate

Moreover:

auric:~ madison paul
  paul |  0.1-1 | oldstable | source, alpha, arm, i386, m68k, 
powerpc, sparc
  paul |  0.1.0.2-5 |  unstable | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, 
m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
auric:~ madison libgtkdatabox
libgtkdatabox | 0.1.12.3-1 | oldstable | source, alpha, arm, i386, m68k, 
powerpc, sparc
libgtkdatabox | 1:0.1.13.0-6 |   testing | source
libgtkdatabox | 1:0.1.13.0-6 |  unstable | source


Sorry I can't verify the problem why paul has unsatisfiable Depends on
m68k and sparc.  Could anybody please enlighten me?

Kind regards

Andreas.




Re: Update excuses - please explain

2002-08-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:26:20AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
 # paul (- to 0.1.0.2-5)
 * paul/m68k unsatisfiable Depends: libgtkdatabox (= 0.1.3)
 * paul/sparc unsatisfiable Depends: libgtkdatabox (= 0.1.3)
 Moreover:
 auric:~ madison libgtkdatabox
 libgtkdatabox | 0.1.12.3-1 | oldstable | source, alpha, arm, i386, m68k, 
 powerpc, sparc
 libgtkdatabox | 1:0.1.13.0-6 |   testing | source
 libgtkdatabox | 1:0.1.13.0-6 |  unstable | source

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ madison libgtkdatabox-0.1.13-0
libgtkdatabox-0.1.13-0 | 1:0.1.13.0-6 |   testing | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, 
ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
libgtkdatabox-0.1.13-0 | 1:0.1.13.0-6 |  unstable | alpha, arm, hppa, 
hurd-i386, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc

 Sorry I can't verify the problem why paul has unsatisfiable Depends on
 m68k and sparc.  Could anybody please enlighten me?

Which is to say libgtkdatabox no longer exists, but it used to, and
that's what the m68k and sparc buildds used to build paul. The sparc and
m68k debs need to be updated to reflect the new library.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Update excuses - please explain

2002-08-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Anthony Towns wrote:

 Which is to say libgtkdatabox no longer exists, but it used to, and
Oh well, yes - I remember ;)

 that's what the m68k and sparc buildds used to build paul. The sparc and
 m68k debs need to be updated to reflect the new library.
But what to do that these debs will be updated?  The autobuilder
leaves no trace that there went something wrong and I can see the
debs in the archive.  Isn't it strange?

Kind regards

 Andreas.




Re: Sympa package: Seeking for co-developers

2002-08-22 Thread Jérôme Marant
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 11:35:52PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
   I'm seeking for co-developers who have some interests in the

  Perhaps I should have said co-maintainers than co-developers.

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Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 05:10:58PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
 I was asking for real examples in order to discuss how the case of
 bind and db.root is *not* a member of that set and how there may be a
 genuine problem with the handling of installing over missing
 configuration files.

Maybe db.root just shouldn't be a conffile, that's all.

 As far as I can tell there is no way to pass --force-confmiss to dpkg
 when using apt-get.  Perhaps this is the only real omission.  

Sure there is: it's something like -o DPkg::Options=--force-confmiss.

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Re: OpenSSL-linked exim

2002-08-22 Thread Philip Hazel
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:

 :In addition, for the avoidance of any doubt, permission is granted to link
 :this program with OpenSSL or any other library package.

 This seems to be intended as the kind of exception statement Debian needs in
 order to be able to include OpenSSL-linked exim binaries (or
 OpenLDAP-linked-against-OpenSSL exim binaries) in its main archive, although
 people on debian-legal would probably point out that this doesn't spell out
 permission to redistribute the result of such linking.

 Philip, if I recall correctly, previous discussions on debian-legal have
 resulted in a recommended phrasing for such an exception statement
 (unfortunately, I can't seem to find a link for it at the moment); would you
 please consider getting the NOTICE updated along the lines of that phrasing
 so as to make it clear that redistribution of OpenSSL-linked exim binaries
 is allowed?

Oh, how I hate having to deal with licencing issues. I am not a legally
competent person. (Also, I am not on any Debian lists.)

If Debian would like such a statement, then please can somebody send me
the wording that they want, and I will probably have no problem
inserting it. Basically, I don't apply any restriction on linking Exim
with any library you like, and distributing the resulting binary.
(Obviously, the licencing terms of the library must be respected.)
However, the usual GPL conditions apply: the people to whom it is
distributed must have access to all the source of the Exim part.

Philip

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Re: Update excuses - please explain

2002-08-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 09:21:39AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Anthony Towns wrote:
  that's what the m68k and sparc buildds used to build paul. The sparc and
  m68k debs need to be updated to reflect the new library.
 But what to do that these debs will be updated?  The autobuilder
 leaves no trace that there went something wrong and I can see the
 debs in the archive.  Isn't it strange?

No, nothing stange about it at all. paul got rebuilt before the new
libgtkdatabox-* was available. It either needs to be binNMUed on those
architectures, or a new source needs to be uploaded to get it rebuilt.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:47:46AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 05:10:58PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
  I was asking for real examples in order to discuss how the case of
  bind and db.root is *not* a member of that set and how there may be a
  genuine problem with the handling of installing over missing
  configuration files.
 
 Maybe db.root just shouldn't be a conffile, that's all.

{Gesturing} That's what I'm saying. 

 
  As far as I can tell there is no way to pass --force-confmiss to dpkg
  when using apt-get.  Perhaps this is the only real omission.  
 
 Sure there is: it's something like -o DPkg::Options=--force-confmiss.

OK.  You got me.  Is there any hope that's you'll at least cede that
that's not as straightforward as we *could* be?

 
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Re: Update excuses - please explain

2002-08-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Anthony Towns wrote:

 No, nothing stange about it at all. paul got rebuilt before the new
 libgtkdatabox-* was available. It either needs to be binNMUed on those
 architectures, or a new source needs to be uploaded to get it rebuilt.
Well, now I understand the trouble.  New upload just went to incoming.
On the other hand I insist on my statement that this is not obviously
to see using the update_excuses and madison and needs some guessing
on developers side.

Next question:  Is there any trace of packages which are uploaded to
stable and should go to woody-proposed-updates?  How can I check if
the moove to there is progressing or whether I need to do something?

Kind regards

 Andreas.




Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On 21 Aug 2002, Luca Barbieri wrote:

 This is a proposal (including patches) for a GNU extension to the ELF
 executable format that adds a flag that causes the dynamic loader to
 start searching for symbols referenced by modules with the flag set from
 the module itself and its immediate dependencies. If the symbol is not
 found in this way, the dynamic linker continues the search as usual. 
 
 This extension would be useful to allow to load in the same address
 space multiple libraries that define identical symbols, that would be
 used by different modules possibly unaware of each other's use of such
 symbols. 

 Hmm, what if two functions which get imported from different versions of
the same library operate on a static (private to the library) variable
that is needed for a proper operation for some reason?  You'd better
rebuild the sources to use a single version of each library instead. 

-- 
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Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Arthur de Jong
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Marc Singer wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:42:53PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
Sounds like you want dpkg --force-confmiss.
  
   I wouldn't expect that since the documentation states:
  
confmiss: Always install  a  missing  configuration
 file.  This  is  dangerous, since it means not pre-
 serving a change (removing) made to the file.
  
   How could it be dangerous to install a *missing* configuration file?
 
  If the default configuration data in the file do something you don't want.

 For example...

Logcheck has a number of files under /etc/logcheck/ignore.d... that are
marked as configuration files. Removing a configuration files means that
more information is present in the log summary. (automaticly) Replacing
these configuration files would result in unwanted behaviour.

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Re: orphaning most (of my) packages

2002-08-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:43:52PM +0200, Ivo Timmermans wrote:
 Robert van der Meulen wrote:
  kernel-patch-int (should be superseded by cryptoapi; i can't find the time).
  
  Then there's some ITP's i (enthousiastically) did; i'm going to be closing
  them too. Interested people can upload and close at will, if they're faster
  than me: ricochet, loop-aes, cryptoapi, ipsec-tunnel.
 
 I would like to take over your ITP for cryptoapi.  If noone else wants
 it, I can take kernel-patch-int too.
 
Now that you are taking them over, some documentation to be
included in the Debian Securing Manual regarding these packages could be
useful too BTW. There's currently not a single paragraph on how to setup
these patches to the kernel in Debian.

Regards

Javi




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 01:18:35AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:47:46AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
  On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 05:10:58PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
   As far as I can tell there is no way to pass --force-confmiss to dpkg
   when using apt-get.  Perhaps this is the only real omission.  
  
  Sure there is: it's something like -o DPkg::Options=--force-confmiss.
 
 OK.  You got me.  Is there any hope that's you'll at least cede that
 that's not as straightforward as we *could* be?

Yep, certainly.

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Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Arthur de Jong
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Arthur de Jong wrote:

  For example...

 Logcheck has a number of files under /etc/logcheck/ignore.d... that are
 marked as configuration files. Removing a configuration files means that
 more information is present in the log summary. (automaticly) Replacing
 these configuration files would result in unwanted behaviour.

Oh I just thought of a better one: a lot of packages have configfiles in
/etc/cron.{daily,monthly,weekly}. Removind a configfile is clearly not the
same as having a default in this case.

Bluntly overwriting the db.root file is also not a good idea since some
people use alternative root nameservers. If you screwed up your package
configuration you should do:
  apt-get --purge remove bind9
  apt-get install bind9
(maybe apt-get --purge --reinstall install bind9 would be nice)
You either replace you whole configuration or just your binaries. I don't
think tat changing dpkg to do vodoo for you is a good idea.

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Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 10:35:33AM +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
 On 21 Aug 2002, Luca Barbieri wrote:
 
  This is a proposal (including patches) for a GNU extension to the ELF
  executable format that adds a flag that causes the dynamic loader to
  start searching for symbols referenced by modules with the flag set from
  the module itself and its immediate dependencies. If the symbol is not
  found in this way, the dynamic linker continues the search as usual. 
  
  This extension would be useful to allow to load in the same address
  space multiple libraries that define identical symbols, that would be
  used by different modules possibly unaware of each other's use of such
  symbols. 
 
  Hmm, what if two functions which get imported from different versions of
 the same library operate on a static (private to the library) variable
 that is needed for a proper operation for some reason?  You'd better
 rebuild the sources to use a single version of each library instead. 

Or, even better, introduce symbol versioning for libpng.so and maintain it
ABI compatible from this point on...

Jakub




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Marc Singer
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 10:19:49PM -0400, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
  Still, breaking bind's access to root name servers is particularly
  troublesome because it may tend to break all net access.  It may be
  worthwhile to remove db.root from the list of configuration files.
  Especially, because this list isn't something anyone should need to
  change.
 
 I beg to disagree.  Changing db.root is the primary way to use an alternate
 DNS root (either for an all-internal DNS, or to utilize an alternate DNS
 root than NetSol's).  Just because you can't see why something might be
 configured differently doesn't mean other people can't.

One can change the database reference in named.conf to do this.  The
difference is that db.root references 'the' root servers.  You can
choose which ones you want to use in the zone file:

  // prime the server with knowledge of the root servers
  zone . {
  type hint;
  file /etc/bind/db.alternative_root;
  };

The trouble with removing db.root is that it may not be obvious how to
recover when it is missing.




Re: orphaning most (of my) packages

2002-08-22 Thread Robert van der Meulen

Quoting Mako Hill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  razor   ('needed' by spamasassin; needs updating)
 
 I've check out the bug list and the package and I'd like to take this
 on unless some more qualified wants it.

Taken - sorry ! :)

Greets,
Robert
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Re: orphaning most (of my) packages

2002-08-22 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Quoting Thorsten Sauter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  libphp-adodb (a php database abstraction layer, required for 'acidlab')
 
 I'll like to adopte the libphp-adodb package from you.

Too late :/

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Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread David Schmitt
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 01:08:53PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
 Without a single example, I don't see how installing a configuration
 file where there is none can have *any* affect on the system.

Removing /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf causes snmpd to _NOT_ start.

Reinstalling the conffile would reenable snmpd, which is - given the
history of snmp-related security-problems - dangerous.


Regards, David
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Re: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL

2002-08-22 Thread Panu A Kalliokoski
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 07:11:52PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Luca Barbieri wrote:
  This is an another problem that would be easily and compatibly solved by
  my ELF extension (until the library gets properly fixed upstream).
 Yes and no. Versioned symbols are here NOW and can be used NOW, and they fix
 the issue cleanly without drawbacks:  they are as painful as a
 do-it-only-once global soname increase (which is quite painful though).

If versioned symbols means including the versions of the dependencies
in the SONAME, the biggest drawback I see is that it using it will
render all libraries binary-incompatible with programs / libraries
developed elsewhere... or have I missed something?

In the sense of being a widely-adopted standard, versioned symbols are
*not* here now. 

Panu




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 05:10:58PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:

 This terse reply is obviously inappropriate.  If you are annoyed, stop
 writing.

No less appropriate than your one-line dismissal of a reasonable and tactful
response.

 I was asking for real examples in order to discuss how the case of bind
 and db.root is *not* a member of that set and how there may be a genuine
 problem with the handling of installing over missing configuration files.

Are you saying that you think that the situation with this particular
conffile is different enough, and that there are enough other similar
conffiles, that it justifies different handling by dpkg?  If so, I think
that I would disagree.

In the particular case of BIND, it is entirely reasonable to move the entire
configuration somewhere else (such as into a chroot) and remove /etc/bind
and its contents.  It would be confusing to have them reappear when BIND is
upgraded.

 As far as I can tell there is no way to pass --force-confmiss to dpkg
 when using apt-get.  Perhaps this is the only real omission.  

man 5 apt.conf, search for 'dpkg', 6th match.

 Still, breaking bind's access to root name servers is particularly
 troublesome because it may tend to break all net access.  It may be
 worthwhile to remove db.root from the list of configuration files.
 Especially, because this list isn't something anyone should need to
 change.

The conffile system does nothing to break BIND's access to root nameservers;
this only happens if an administrator explicitly removes db.root.  If this
was an accident, they need to reinstall with --force-confmiss.  If not, then
their change is preserved as it should be.  What purpose would be served by
making db.root not a conffile?

-- 
 - mdz




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Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Luca Barbieri
On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 08:13, Roland McGrath wrote:
 I think you can get the effect you need just by using -Bsymbolic.  In your
 example, build the GTK+ library with -Bsymbolic.  If that causes problems
 because some of the library's references should be resolved in the normal
 global scope, then confine the code that uses libpng to a wrapper library
 that you build with -Bsymbolic.  Then link the GTK+ library against that
 shared object, and I think you will get the result you need: the GTK+
 library code that uses libpng will be in a DT_SYMBOLIC object and thus
 resolve according to its own dependency on the desired libpng soname,
 while the application is free to link a conflicting libpng in directly.
But -Bsymbolic only puts the module that uses it in front of the search
list so the wrapper will use the library used by the program and will
fail.

You could do this by dlopen'ing libpng and getting symbols from it with
dlsym but this requires source modifications and isn't exactly elegant
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Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Luca Barbieri
  Hmm, what if two functions which get imported from different versions of
 the same library operate on a static (private to the library) variable
 that is needed for a proper operation for some reason?  You'd better
 rebuild the sources to use a single version of each library instead. 
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Re: MailMan Security patch for Woody Broken?

2002-08-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Matt Zimmerman 

| If that is the only issue, then it is a simple matter to prepare fixed
| packages which use string.lower('string') rather than 'string'.lower(),
| which should work with both python 1.5 and python 2.x.  Please let me know
| as soon as you are able to test this.

Fixed in proposed-updates now.

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Re: Next Debconf

2002-08-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Joe Drew 

| On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 12:20, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|  since nobody else has taken up the thread:
| 
| I long ago declared my intention to organize debconf 3 in montreal or
| vancouver, but I am absolutely not opposed to having the in-between
| debconf outside of Canada.

Ok, sorry about that, then.  I guess you'll host debconf4 then. :)

|  I am planning Debconf 3 to be held in Oslo, from Friday July 18th to
|  Sunday July 20th.
| 
| You'll be interested in bug#152529, which details the request for a
| debian-conference list. This will help all debconfs in the future,
| whenever it gets created.

yup, looks good.

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Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Luca Barbieri
On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 11:23, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 10:35:33AM +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
  On 21 Aug 2002, Luca Barbieri wrote:
  
   This is a proposal (including patches) for a GNU extension to the ELF
   executable format that adds a flag that causes the dynamic loader to
   start searching for symbols referenced by modules with the flag set from
   the module itself and its immediate dependencies. If the symbol is not
   found in this way, the dynamic linker continues the search as usual. 
   
   This extension would be useful to allow to load in the same address
   space multiple libraries that define identical symbols, that would be
   used by different modules possibly unaware of each other's use of such
   symbols. 
  
   Hmm, what if two functions which get imported from different versions of
  the same library operate on a static (private to the library) variable
  that is needed for a proper operation for some reason?  You'd better
  rebuild the sources to use a single version of each library instead. 
 
 Or, even better, introduce symbol versioning for libpng.so and maintain it
 ABI compatible from this point on...
Yes, you could compatibly introduce versioning in libraries and continue
to build unversioned binaries and it will work.

However, this introduces a minor ABI modification that will cause
libraries to break if they are used with libraries created by someone
else that decided to do the same but invented a different versioning
scheme.

So this should be done in accordance with the library maintainers and
other distributors while this extension can be introduced immediately
and used until there is a universally accepted plan to add versioning.

Also, libpng is not the only target: this can similarly be used in all
the cases where the library maintainers decide to inconvenience everyone
else by creating two incompatible libraries with conflicting symbols.

BTW, how is RedHat handling this?



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Re: orphaning most (of my) packages

2002-08-22 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 11:57:39AM +0200, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
 Too late :/
 
Has kernel-patch-int been adopted? As one of the upstream authors I
would be glad to take it over.

Regards,
Kyle
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Re: orphaning most (of my) packages

2002-08-22 Thread Robert van der Meulen

Quoting Kyle McMartin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 11:57:39AM +0200, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
  Too late :/
  
 Has kernel-patch-int been adopted? As one of the upstream authors I
 would be glad to take it over.

I have agreed with Ivo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), that he can take over the package.
If you're interested - or more suitable, or whatever :) - you should discuss
things with him; I Cc'd him on this message.

Greets,
Robert

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gluck is down

2002-08-22 Thread Scott Dier
To avoid the 'only heard on IRC' problem, gluck is down right now.  I've
been told (via irc) that an HP-er has been notified and that it is being
worked on.

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Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:44:04AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 05:10:58PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
 
  This terse reply is obviously inappropriate.  If you are annoyed, stop
  writing.
 
 No less appropriate than your one-line dismissal of a reasonable and tactful
 response.

So let me get this straight.  You equate shut up with a request for
concrete examples.  How unfortunate.

 
  I was asking for real examples in order to discuss how the case of bind
  and db.root is *not* a member of that set and how there may be a genuine
  problem with the handling of installing over missing configuration files.
 
 Are you saying that you think that the situation with this particular
 conffile is different enough, and that there are enough other similar
 conffiles, that it justifies different handling by dpkg?  If so, I think
 that I would disagree.
 
 In the particular case of BIND, it is entirely reasonable to move the entire
 configuration somewhere else (such as into a chroot) and remove /etc/bind
 and its contents.  It would be confusing to have them reappear when BIND is
 upgraded.

The idea is that db.root is a different kind of file.  Most of the
time, configuration files reflect the personality of the user's
machine.  db.root contains information about the root name servers.  I
would differentiate the presence of this information on a user's
machine with the application of that information.  It has a closer
relationship to terminfo files or the POSIX timezone files than the
global bash rc file.

 
  As far as I can tell there is no way to pass --force-confmiss to dpkg
  when using apt-get.  Perhaps this is the only real omission.  
 
 man 5 apt.conf, search for 'dpkg', 6th match.

That's a global change.  Someone else pointed out that it can be
passed with -o.

 
  Still, breaking bind's access to root name servers is particularly
  troublesome because it may tend to break all net access.  It may be
  worthwhile to remove db.root from the list of configuration files.
  Especially, because this list isn't something anyone should need to
  change.
 
 The conffile system does nothing to break BIND's access to root nameservers;
 this only happens if an administrator explicitly removes db.root.  If this
 was an accident, they need to reinstall with --force-confmiss.  If not, then
 their change is preserved as it should be.  What purpose would be served by
 making db.root not a conffile?

Albeit, this isn't a grave consideration, but one that make repairing
a broken name server a little easier.  Because --force-confmiss isn't
a very desirable switch to use, because there is no compelling reason
to keep db.root a configuration file, and because making this change
would make restoring a missing db.root simple it seems that real
question is qhy not?.




Re: exim vs. exim-tiny (was: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL)

2002-08-22 Thread Hilko Bengen
David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As the main person in #exim on OPN, I've seen several people ask
 about exim with mysql or postgres support. There is a bug about
 having mysql support in exim in debian. (Wouldn't it be nice to have
 voting in debbugs?). I realise that exim does not have the sanest of
 build systems, but is there any chance of getting two exim packages
 built? 

Yes, there is. It requires quite a few modifications to debian/rules. 
I have done this before for building our internal Exim packages with
embedded Perl support. I just keep multpile EDITME files in the
debian/ directory and have debian/rules copy them as needed.

I have contacted Mark Baker about this before, but he seems not to
have had the time to look at my patches.

-Hilko




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 10:26:45AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:44:04AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
  No less appropriate than your one-line dismissal of a reasonable and
  tactful response.
 
 So let me get this straight.  You equate shut up with a request for
 concrete examples.  How unfortunate.

You are expecting others to do your homework for you.  If you take a casual
look around your system, it should be clear why things are done the way they
are.

  In the particular case of BIND, it is entirely reasonable to move the
  entire configuration somewhere else (such as into a chroot) and remove
  /etc/bind and its contents.  It would be confusing to have them reappear
  when BIND is upgraded.
 
 The idea is that db.root is a different kind of file.  Most of the time,
 configuration files reflect the personality of the user's machine.
 db.root contains information about the root name servers.  I would
 differentiate the presence of this information on a user's machine with
 the application of that information.  It has a closer relationship to
 terminfo files or the POSIX timezone files than the global bash rc file.

It sounds like you are arguing that DNS zone files should not be considered
configuration files.  If you read section 11.7.1 of the policy manual, it is
clear that DNS zone files meet the policy manual's definition of
configuration files.

   As far as I can tell there is no way to pass --force-confmiss to dpkg
   when using apt-get.  Perhaps this is the only real omission.  
  
  man 5 apt.conf, search for 'dpkg', 6th match.
 
 That's a global change.  Someone else pointed out that it can be
 passed with -o.

I pointed you to the documentation for the configuration option.  You are
complaining that it is a global configuration option, and in the same
paragraph explaining how to set it for a particular invocation.  This does
not make sense to me.

  The conffile system does nothing to break BIND's access to root
  nameservers; this only happens if an administrator explicitly removes
  db.root.  If this was an accident, they need to reinstall with
  --force-confmiss.  If not, then their change is preserved as it should
  be.  What purpose would be served by making db.root not a conffile?
 
 Albeit, this isn't a grave consideration, but one that make repairing a
 broken name server a little easier.  Because --force-confmiss isn't a very
 desirable switch to use, because there is no compelling reason to keep
 db.root a configuration file, and because making this change would make
 restoring a missing db.root simple it seems that real question is qhy
 not?.

If you want a db.root that is easy to restore, file a wishlist bug asking
the maintainer to include a copy of the default db.root in
/usr/share/doc/bind9/examples.

-- 
 - mdz




Re: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL

2002-08-22 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
Tore Anderson wrote:
 As far as I know, exim is the only package with priority: important that
 depend on libldap2. Howevery, the basic configuration generated by exim's
 postinst doesn't use the LDAP functionality (AFAIK). So, I think exim
 should be fixed so that it doesn't depend on libldap2 anymore.

How about moving postfix to priority important and exim to optional? :)
LDAP support in postfix is already split off into a separate package.
The postfix package still depends on postfix-ldap though. I suppose that
dependency was added to prevent breaking LDAP support on upgrades. Now
that woody is released, couldn't that dependency be dropped?

/me runs

Roland

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Re: Bug#152778: DBS feature request vs dpkg-source v2

2002-08-22 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:22:56AM +1000, Brian May wrote:

 I received this wish list request for dbs.

 Ideally, I want to make the transition as easy as possible from dbs to
 dpkg-source v2 once it comes out of being experimental. So I do not want
 to add new features to dbs that may make this transition harder because
 they are not supported by dpkg-source v2.

 However, I don't have time to look at dpkg-source v2 now, not until it
 becomes feasible to convert Heimdal (and this won't be while uploads are
 being rejected).

 So what should I do with this wishlist request?

Hey Brian, sorry about the delay in responding.  If you're comfortable
that dpkg-source v2 is actually going to see the light in the next 6
months or so, I wouldn't worry about it.  Because it's in
experimental, I haven't looked at it at all, but I've been intending
to move to it as soon as it's even minimally ready.

If you have the feeling that it will take longer than 6 months to hit
unstable, then you should maybe nudge me to write a patch for you. =)

Tks,
Jeff Bailey

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Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On 22 Aug 2002, Luca Barbieri wrote:

   Hmm, what if two functions which get imported from different versions of
  the same library operate on a static (private to the library) variable
  that is needed for a proper operation for some reason?  You'd better
  rebuild the sources to use a single version of each library instead. 
 I don't see how this could cause problems. Each png library should bind
 its own references to its own symbols.

 Do you suggest your proposed change should only be activated for the png
library? 

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Re: pam_console for debian

2002-08-22 Thread Sam Clegg
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 10:23:09AM -0700, David Caldwell wrote:
 Sounds like what you really want is a way to take exclusive access to the 
 camera device somehow. Can you exclusively open the device and prevent 
 others from opening it too? I suppose even that would have a timing 
 splinter: Someone could take exclusive control before you got a chance...

I would like to see someting like this for hotpluggable storage as well.

If I want to keep private data (private keys etc) on a USB keyring I
would like to be sure that nobody else can mount it before me.

Perhaps the hotplug system could implement some kind of method for a
user to say any device plugged in the next 1 minute is mine.  Clearly
this is vulnerable to DoS by others but this is far better than others
being able to mount your disks/read your photos.

sam
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Re: ELF extension for starting symbol search from module dependencies

2002-08-22 Thread Luca Barbieri
On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 21:35, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
 On 22 Aug 2002, Luca Barbieri wrote:
 
Hmm, what if two functions which get imported from different versions of
   the same library operate on a static (private to the library) variable
   that is needed for a proper operation for some reason?  You'd better
   rebuild the sources to use a single version of each library instead. 
  I don't see how this could cause problems. Each png library should bind
  its own references to its own symbols.
 
  Do you suggest your proposed change should only be activated for the png
 library? 
The proposed change is activated for everything that is compiled with
the -Blocal linker option.

For the specific case of libpng, the problem can be solved by linking
libpng.so.2 and libpng.so.3 with -Bsymbolic and all libraries that use
them with -Blocal (alternatively you can also solve this with versioned
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Re: pam_console for debian

2002-08-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:46, Sam Clegg wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 10:23:09AM -0700, David Caldwell wrote:
  Sounds like what you really want is a way to take exclusive access to the
  camera device somehow. Can you exclusively open the device and prevent
  others from opening it too? I suppose even that would have a timing
  splinter: Someone could take exclusive control before you got a chance...

 I would like to see someting like this for hotpluggable storage as well.

 If I want to keep private data (private keys etc) on a USB keyring I
 would like to be sure that nobody else can mount it before me.

 Perhaps the hotplug system could implement some kind of method for a
 user to say any device plugged in the next 1 minute is mine.  Clearly
 this is vulnerable to DoS by others but this is far better than others
 being able to mount your disks/read your photos.

Ivo is apparently taking over crypto-api and hopefully he'll have it in sarge 
soon.  That should solve your problem, just encrypt the device and only the 
user with the password can get access.

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If you use Outlook then please do not put my email address in your
address-book so that WHEN you get a virus it won't use my address in the
From field.




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 22-Aug-02, 11:12 (CDT), Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 11:38:36PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
  The trouble with removing db.root is that it may not be obvious how to
  recover when it is missing.
 
 the questions to replace/diff/keep a modified conffile, why dont they apply
 to missing conffiles, too?

Because you only get that question if the distributed version of the 
conffile is changed also.

Steve

-- 
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system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the
world.   -- seen on the net




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
because there is no compelling reason
to keep db.root a configuration file


But there IS a compelling reason to keep db.root a configuration file:
alternic

I don't use them, but debian shouldn't trash files that a sysadmin needs
to change to use them just because they arn't recomended.

(See http://www.alternic.org/ for info on alternic.  While I have my
problems with the way icann runs the DNS, alternic doesn't show signs
of being run better, just differently.)

-- 
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http://www.blars.org/blars.html
Text is a way we cheat time. -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 01:49:39PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 because there is no compelling reason
 to keep db.root a configuration file
 
 
 But there IS a compelling reason to keep db.root a configuration file:
 alternic
 
 I don't use them, but debian shouldn't trash files that a sysadmin needs
 to change to use them just because they arn't recomended.
 
 (See http://www.alternic.org/ for info on alternic.  While I have my
 problems with the way icann runs the DNS, alternic doesn't show signs
 of being run better, just differently.)

Perhaps the file is poorly named

  db.root - db.internic-root




IO::Socket::INET question

2002-08-22 Thread Brian May
Hello, on my mostly woody system, this line in /usr/sbin/amavisd
works fine:

my $sock = IO::Socket::INET-new('127.0.0.1:8127');

However, on another prewoody system where I have upgraded
all of perl and all perl modules to the woody version, it keeps
coming up with the following error:

Cannot determine remote port

Which appears to come from /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/IO/Socket/INET.pm,
in the configure routine. This file is from perl-base, and
it is the same version as in woody, and the same version that works
on all my other systems.

Does anyone have any ideas of why this doesn't work, but only on one
system that appears to be identical to every other system that does
work?

Am I missing some depends from amavis-postfix? I don't think so,
but still, this would be the most obvious source of the problem.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-22 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Steve Greenland wrote:

 apt-get --option Dpkg::Options=--force-confmiss 


apt-get \
 -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confmiss \
 -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-somethingelse \
 

Note the trailing ::




Re: RFC: OpenLDAP and TLS/SSL

2002-08-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Panu A Kalliokoski wrote:
 If versioned symbols means including the versions of the dependencies
 in the SONAME, the biggest drawback I see is that it using it will

Nothing of the sort. It stores the soname of the library along with its
symbols, which then become known as soname + symbol.  Dependencies are not
in the scope at all.

 In the sense of being a widely-adopted standard, versioned symbols are
 *not* here now. 

No, they are not, except where the breakage is so bad even RedHat and the
other vendors can't ignore them with an straight face.  That means libc
(upstream does it), and I believe we (Debian) forced down their throats
versioning for libdb2 and libdb3 as well.

-- 
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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: IO::Socket::INET question

2002-08-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 07:50:21AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
 Which appears to come from /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/IO/Socket/INET.pm,
 in the configure routine. This file is from perl-base, and
 it is the same version as in woody, and the same version that works
 on all my other systems.

Russell Coker suggested I run cruft on the system, and I did so.
It produced a long list of files several screen fulls long.

I found some interesting entries:

sat# grep usr.*perl /tmp/out
/usr/lib/perl5/CGI/Carp.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/CGI/Carp_dist.pm

These files don't seem to exist, I am not sure why cruft reported them.

More importantly:

/usr/lib/perl5/IO/Socket.pm

I strongly suspect this was the cause of my problems.

Anyway I backed up all of these files with:

sat# tar czvf /root/oldperl.tar.gz `grep usr.*perl /tmp/out`

and deleted the originals, and now it seems to work fine.

Thanks!
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]




question about --print-architecture

2002-08-22 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
rum$ CC= dpkg --print-architecture
i386-none
rum$ CC=gcc dpkg --print-architecture
i386

flow$ CC= dpkg --print-architecture
i386-none
flow$ CC=gcc dpkg --print-architecture
i386

This is a problem when using make-kpkg because it can't find the
architecture. dpkg complains about i386-none not being in it's mapping
table.

By using HOSTCC=gcc make-kpkg it works fine.

kernel-package version 7.04.potato.3
dpkg version 1.9.9

Thanks,
-- 
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 There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that can do binary
 arithmetic and those that can't.




proposal for the gcc 3.2 transition

2002-08-22 Thread Jack Howarth
Hello,
I would like to make a proposal for one aspect of the
gcc 3.2 migration in sid. A critical part of this transition
will be the discovery of how many arches still require creation
of libgcc-compat code in glibc. Currently we are told by Jakub
Jelinek that i386 is fine. Franz Sirl has just finished ppc in
both branches of the glibc cvs. The ia64 arch has a version available
in the glibc trunk that could be backported. Jakub also said alpha
and sparc32 should be fine (not sure if that needs backported from 
the trunk though into glibc-2-2-branch). The rest will have to be
handled by the arch maintainers here.
After talking to Daniel Stone, I found out that the kde 3.0.3
introduction to sid was being delayed until the gcc 3.2 switchover
has occurred. Since the scheme above will greatly delay kde 3.0.3
being added to sid, I would like to propose the following. Assuming
each arch passes their gcc 3.2 testsuite and the most current binutils
is mandated for use with gcc 3.2, we should be able to short-circuit
the process as follows.

1) adjust the debian/control in glibc to build all arches at their
current gcc  3.1 regardless if gcc 3.2 is installed.
2) switch the gcc-default to gcc 3.2
3) as each arch can demonstrate that their libgcc-compat issues are
resolved, their arch would be switched over in the glibc debian/control
file to build glibc with gcc 3.2.

This approach has the advantages of making the transition to
gcc 3.2 go much faster while removing the need for each arch
to immediately resolve their issues with libgcc-compat. 
 All comments and suggestions are welcome.
 Jack




CMap files to be shared

2002-08-22 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all,

PDF-viewers recently can handle CMap files to display
mutibyte characters (CJK, for example).

As far as I know, there are ghostscript(gs-cjk or cmap-adobe-japan1),
xpdf(xpdf-japanese, for example) and dvipdfm-cjk which
provide CMap files independently.

Is it impossible to provide only one set of CMap files to be
shared among these binaries?

As I am not an expert of fonts nor PDF so I might misunderstand
something important.

Best regards,  2002/8/23

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 Department of Math., Univ. of Tokushima




Accepted libgd-graph-perl 1.35-2 (all source)

2002-08-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:19:18 +0200
Source: libgd-graph-perl
Binary: libgd-graph-perl
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.35-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libgd-graph-perl - Graph Plotting Module for Perl 5
Closes: 157481
Changes: 
 libgd-graph-perl (1.35-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Depend on unversioned libgd-perl, now that it is only a virtual
 package (and stable Debian contains libgd-perl way above the
 critical 1.9).
   * Build the package using binary-indep build-target (closes: #157481).
   * Add the non-clause to copyright, just to be on the safe side...
Files: 
 110c3deed35d9f0641e3f45a598797f0 617 graphics extra libgd-graph-perl_1.35-2.dsc
 0c4826c2b6677cad980538dcf32c3ac2 2712 graphics extra libgd-graph-perl_1.35-2.diff.gz
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  to pool/main/libg/libgd-graph-perl/libgd-graph-perl_1.35-2.diff.gz
libgd-graph-perl_1.35-2.dsc
  to pool/main/libg/libgd-graph-perl/libgd-graph-perl_1.35-2.dsc
libgd-graph-perl_1.35-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/libg/libgd-graph-perl/libgd-graph-perl_1.35-2_all.deb


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Accepted libdata-compare-perl 0.02-2 (all source)

2002-08-22 Thread Jean-Francois Dive

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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:03:07 +1000
Source: libdata-compare-perl
Binary: libdata-compare-perl
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.02-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jean-Francois Dive [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jean-Francois Dive [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libdata-compare-perl - Compare two perl data structures recursively.
Closes: 157472 157563
Changes: 
 libdata-compare-perl (0.02-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fixed copyright information (closes: #157563).
   * Changed maintainer address.
   * Fixed rule file (closes: #157472).
Files: 
 6e575fda0950cc2d599cf35d0071704e 595 libs optional libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2.dsc
 32f7fc42bf01df4670b918305d5b3324 3885 libs optional libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2.tar.gz
 5301fc50b23cb0f2e4266575ec3dbf8a 6006 libs optional 
libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2_all.deb

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Accepted:
libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2.dsc
  to pool/main/libd/libdata-compare-perl/libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2.dsc
libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2.tar.gz
  to pool/main/libd/libdata-compare-perl/libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2.tar.gz
libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/libd/libdata-compare-perl/libdata-compare-perl_0.02-2_all.deb


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Accepted camlzip 1.01-6 (i386 source)

2002-08-22 Thread Sven Luther

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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:10:42 +0200
Source: camlzip
Binary: libzip-ocaml libzip-ocaml-dev
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.01-6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libzip-ocaml - ocaml compression libraries
 libzip-ocaml-dev - ocaml compression libraries
Changes: 
 camlzip (1.01-6) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Rebuilt for ocaml 3.06.
Files: 
 698b537fb89c3f3aecb487bc863fcd9c 719 devel optional camlzip_1.01-6.dsc
 b618758c75135fb469fc5f5857450711 2441 devel optional camlzip_1.01-6.diff.gz
 5c30ba545d509e12791955324420ec16 5806 libs optional libzip-ocaml_1.01-6_i386.deb
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camlzip_1.01-6.diff.gz
  to pool/main/c/camlzip/camlzip_1.01-6.diff.gz
camlzip_1.01-6.dsc
  to pool/main/c/camlzip/camlzip_1.01-6.dsc
libzip-ocaml-dev_1.01-6_i386.deb
  to pool/main/c/camlzip/libzip-ocaml-dev_1.01-6_i386.deb
libzip-ocaml_1.01-6_i386.deb
  to pool/main/c/camlzip/libzip-ocaml_1.01-6_i386.deb


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Accepted fluxconf 0.8.8-1 (i386 source)

2002-08-22 Thread Emmanuel le Chevoir

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:03:03 +0200
Source: fluxconf
Binary: fluxconf
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.8.8-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Emmanuel le Chevoir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Emmanuel le Chevoir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 fluxconf   - FluxBox configuration utility
Changes: 
 fluxconf (0.8.8-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New Upstream Release
   * Acknowlegded previous changes to the control file.
 (Thanks to Marcelo E. Magallon for the NMU.)
   * Fix error messages. Fluxconf already allows modifications to conffile
 locations.
   * Happy birthday to the author :-)
Files: 
 707b81f7b63d7d45b4f0f8a5b7407110 531 x11 optional fluxconf_0.8.8-1.dsc
 77f31c72054b47194e7946fd5c630b7d 147357 x11 optional fluxconf_0.8.8-1.tar.gz
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Accepted:
fluxconf_0.8.8-1.dsc
  to pool/main/f/fluxconf/fluxconf_0.8.8-1.dsc
fluxconf_0.8.8-1.tar.gz
  to pool/main/f/fluxconf/fluxconf_0.8.8-1.tar.gz
fluxconf_0.8.8-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/f/fluxconf/fluxconf_0.8.8-1_i386.deb


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Accepted debbugs-el 7.10-2 (all source)

2002-08-22 Thread Roland Mas

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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:48:42 +0200
Source: debbugs-el
Binary: debbugs-el
Architecture: source all
Version: 7.10-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 debbugs-el - Access the Debian BTS from within Emacs
Closes: 157798
Changes: 
 debbugs-el (7.10-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Force compression of the compilation log, to allow for non-interactive
 installation (closes: #157798).
Files: 
 9c202da08f16746f9e386d30ed8d2536 507 utils optional debbugs-el_7.10-2.dsc
 39d9b4585aed57cb2398af86716ddd98 19756 utils optional debbugs-el_7.10-2.tar.gz
 f96e02baf19b001b5fd15c0b11b532b2 21056 utils optional debbugs-el_7.10-2_all.deb

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  to pool/main/d/debbugs-el/debbugs-el_7.10-2.dsc
debbugs-el_7.10-2.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/debbugs-el/debbugs-el_7.10-2.tar.gz
debbugs-el_7.10-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/debbugs-el/debbugs-el_7.10-2_all.deb


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Accepted gtk+1.2 1.2.10-14 (i386 source all)

2002-08-22 Thread Akira TAGOH

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:33:00 +0900
Source: gtk+1.2
Binary: libgtk1.2-dev libgtk1.2-doc libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-dbg libgtk1.2-common
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 1.2.10-14
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Akira TAGOH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Akira TAGOH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libgtk1.2  - The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X
 libgtk1.2-common - Common files for the GTK+ library
 libgtk1.2-dbg - Debugging files for the GIMP Toolkit
 libgtk1.2-dev - Development files for the GIMP Toolkit
 libgtk1.2-doc - Documentation for the GIMP Toolkit
Changes: 
 gtk+1.2 (1.2.10-14) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/control: s/Recommends/Suggests/ for devhelp-book-gtk.
Files: 
 1f0a197acc0a43d336737dadeff66e87 666 libs optional gtk+1.2_1.2.10-14.dsc
 534aeec0d03567bde6e48208b8e3a020 97071 libs optional gtk+1.2_1.2.10-14.diff.gz
 f196a82dca0f550ffd1f4d4e25c36d2b 156 doc optional libgtk1.2-doc_1.2.10-14_all.deb
 eb7355b71040e132c61a15a988fc0681 207006 misc optional 
libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-14_all.deb
 03161b8e378bb562996558c491906e0b 795734 libs optional libgtk1.2_1.2.10-14_i386.deb
 f2c043ff49798dc3d2fcb89df787eea7 1109742 devel optional 
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gtk+1.2_1.2.10-14.diff.gz
  to pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/gtk+1.2_1.2.10-14.diff.gz
gtk+1.2_1.2.10-14.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/gtk+1.2_1.2.10-14.dsc
libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-14_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-14_all.deb
libgtk1.2-dbg_1.2.10-14_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2-dbg_1.2.10-14_i386.deb
libgtk1.2-dev_1.2.10-14_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2-dev_1.2.10-14_i386.deb
libgtk1.2-doc_1.2.10-14_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2-doc_1.2.10-14_all.deb
libgtk1.2_1.2.10-14_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2_1.2.10-14_i386.deb


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Accepted radiusd-livingston 2.1-7 (i386 source)

2002-08-22 Thread Paul Martin

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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:36:39 +0100
Source: radiusd-livingston
Binary: radiusd-livingston
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.1-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Paul Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Paul Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 radiusd-livingston - Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service (RADIUS) server
Closes: 157754
Changes: 
 radiusd-livingston (2.1-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Included radtest program in the package at the suggestion of
 Todd Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED].
   * Use debhelper v4.
   * Standards-Version: 3.5.6
   * Updated to use db2 includes, as the db1-compat header files are no
 longer supported by libc6.
   * Allow use of shadow passwords. (Closes: #157754)
   * Additions to README.Debian, and debian/rules clean now cleans up
 install-stamp.
Files: 
 a6e0869b226bdd3d59bc6172e86ab7b8 588 net optional radiusd-livingston_2.1-7.dsc
 cb44761fe81a5bbb4f71c3ba91439771 14367 net optional radiusd-livingston_2.1-7.diff.gz
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Accepted:
radiusd-livingston_2.1-7.diff.gz
  to pool/main/r/radiusd-livingston/radiusd-livingston_2.1-7.diff.gz
radiusd-livingston_2.1-7.dsc
  to pool/main/r/radiusd-livingston/radiusd-livingston_2.1-7.dsc
radiusd-livingston_2.1-7_i386.deb
  to pool/main/r/radiusd-livingston/radiusd-livingston_2.1-7_i386.deb


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Accepted dpkg-dev-el 2.7-2 (all source)

2002-08-22 Thread Roland Mas

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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:38:07 +0200
Source: dpkg-dev-el
Binary: dpkg-dev-el
Architecture: source all
Version: 2.7-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dpkg-dev-el - Emacs-related Debian development helpers
Closes: 157811
Changes: 
 dpkg-dev-el (2.7-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Changed the load-path used at install time, to fix installation
 problem on Xemacs (closes: #157811).
Files: 
 5b5f2e5f5a1fd99b58bf497b63f2563d 508 utils optional dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2.dsc
 ecb78d0150f8d1531ca680f4c82055ec 36317 utils optional dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2.tar.gz
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Accepted:
dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2.dsc
  to pool/main/d/dpkg-dev-el/dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2.dsc
dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dpkg-dev-el/dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2.tar.gz
dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dpkg-dev-el/dpkg-dev-el_2.7-2_all.deb


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Accepted control-center2 2.0.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2002-08-22 Thread Christian Marillat

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:44:13 +0200
Source: control-center2
Binary: gnome-control-center2
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.0.1.1-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gnome-control-center2 - The GNOME Control Center for GNOME 2
Changes: 
 control-center2 (2.0.1.1-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Remove fam from recommends should be in libgnomevfs2-0 package.
Files: 
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 56870f56e5702586783b6888f0c15e47 1832423 x11 optional 
control-center2_2.0.1.1.orig.tar.gz
 2aa0b6a007b6169cc5c1d5504d2b419f 6877 x11 optional control-center2_2.0.1.1-1.diff.gz
 d956a5e2fbc045147a5a8b21e832c1c5 938224 x11 optional 
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control-center2_2.0.1.1-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/c/control-center2/control-center2_2.0.1.1-1.diff.gz
control-center2_2.0.1.1-1.dsc
  to pool/main/c/control-center2/control-center2_2.0.1.1-1.dsc
control-center2_2.0.1.1.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/c/control-center2/control-center2_2.0.1.1.orig.tar.gz
gnome-control-center2_2.0.1.1-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/c/control-center2/gnome-control-center2_2.0.1.1-1_i386.deb


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Hackmeeting 2002 -Madrid

2002-08-22 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
Hola a todos,

Por si todavía no lo sabeís, este año el HackMeeting nacional se
organiza en Madrid a principios de octubre. Es un encuentro de geeks y
hackers de todo tipo viniendo de toda España. El año pasado tuvo lugar
en Leioa (Bilbao) y hace 2 años en Barcelona. Más detalles en la
pagina web:

http://www.sindomimio.net/wh2001

Estoy (modestamente) ayudando a la organización de este evento y se
esta planeando la idea de tener un stand Debian durante los 3 días que
dura la concentración. ¿Algunos estaríais interesados en venir montar
y cuidar el stand durante esos días? Me imagino que se pueden
organizar turnos. Por supuesto estaré yo también pero no podré estar
todo el tiempo en el stand.

Creo que jfs tiene contactos en lo que se refiere al material de
promoción que pertenece a Debian (el 'kit móvil'): carteles, banderas,
pegatinas, mecheros, condones, etc.

Saludos,

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