Re: is the Debian mail server healthy?

2005-10-30 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello,

On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 07:04:02PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> There were also some bugs for tetex-* that were never sent to the
> Maintainer: field, namely the debian-tetex-maint mailing list.
Here is another one.  The following message (related to bug #335689)
spend six days in the vincinity of master.

Received: from master.debian.org (master.debian.org [146.82.138.7])
by dd1234.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391E91752C5
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:21:27 +0100 (CET)
Received: from qa by master.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian))
id 1EWRAJ-00020H-00; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:20:59 -0600
Received: from spohr.debian.org [140.211.166.43] by master.debian.org with
esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1EUQ6i-Rb-00; Tue, 25 Oct 2005
09:48:56 -0500
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I hope this helps,
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Re: Dummy packages and metapackages (call for consistency in the descriptions)

2005-10-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Would it be unreasonable to ask that metapackages have to be _empty_,
> > i.e., that all their functionality it's in their control file?
> 
> As long as you give no reasons to do so I would in deed call it
> unreasonable.

The principle of least surprise, and the meaning of "meta" are good enough
reasons for me to never have ANYTHING but debian/control in a meta package.

If the package packages something, it is NOT a meta-package, it is a
package. IMHO anyway.

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Re: In Need Of Serious Help

2005-10-30 Thread billy am
Hi
first , how did you get those errors? Could you tell us how can we
replicate the errors you get ? Which app ? Does it happen everytime
you follow the same process ? and perhaps pls describe your machine ,
hardware , software anything.

regards
billy

On 10/30/05, lisbeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> Bare with me I am new to Linux, and I am not sure If this is the right
> place to post this ?, This is the errors I am receiving
> QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
> kdecore (klibloader): Warning: KLibrary:/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4:
> undefined symbol: init_kwifimanager_kamodule
> ALSA lib pam_hw.c:494:(snd_pam_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START
> failed:Broken pipe
> I hope this give a general idea, there are many more errors,
> and I don't know what I am doing? Help Please
>
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Bug#336534: ITP: stopwatch -- A virtual stopwatch and timer

2005-10-30 Thread Daniel J. Milstein
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Daniel J. Milstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: stopwatch
  Version : 3.4
  Upstream Author : Don Libes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://expect.nist.gov/stopwatch/
* License : Public domain
  Description : A virtual stopwatch and timer program
  
  Stopwatch is a stopwatch and timer program that
  uses the Tk toolkit. It has millisecond accuracy.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-9-386
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)


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Re: Alacarte - GNOME menu editor

2005-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:54:52AM +1100, Rob Weir said
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> * Package name: alacarte
>   Version : 0.8
> * Upstream Author : Travis Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
> * License : GPL v2.
>   Description : GNOME-based freedesktop.org menu editor
> 
> Alacarte is an menu editor for GNOME that can add and edit new entries and
> menus. It works with the freedesktop.org menu specification and should work
> with any desktop environment that uses the spec.

Erk, forgot x-debbugs-cc.

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Save Chechnya Campaign

2005-10-30 Thread Alberta Aaron
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Re: Help: Bug#336469: pure-ftpd uninstallable : no pure-ftpd-common

2005-10-30 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Stefan Hornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Is the following line in debian/control too strict ?

> Depends: pure-ftpd-common (=${Source-Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}

It evidently creates problems for binary NMUs (where only the
arch-dependent packages are uploaded with an NMU revision in the
Source-Version). A workaround would be to add something like

dpkg-parsechangelog | perl -ne '\
  s/^Version: /Indep-Version=/ or next;\
  s/(-\d+\.\d+)\.d+$$/$$1/ && s/\.0$$//;\
  print' >> debian/substvars

in debian/rules before the dh_gencontrol, and the use

  Depends: pure-ftpd-common (=${Indep-Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}

instead. (Probably with some extra plumbing due to make the defn reach
the package-specific substvars files).

Such a construction ought to be used everytime one uses
=${Source-Version} to refer to an arch-independent package.
There really ought to be some stock magic in {dpkg-,dh_}gencontrol
for this, but currently there isn't.

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Re: Help: Bug#336469: pure-ftpd uninstallable : no pure-ftpd-common

2005-10-30 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Stefan Hornburg wrote:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   pure-ftpd: Depends: pure-ftpd-common (= 1.0.19-6.0.1) but 1.0.19-6 is
>   to be installed 
> 
> Where are these 1.0.19-6.0.1 packages are coming from ? 

Looks like a binary-NMU.

> How can I fix this issue - just releasing 1.0.19-7 ?

Good question. I received a similar bugreport against the ion3 package
yesterday.

Norbert


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Re: Help: Bug#336469: pure-ftpd uninstallable : no pure-ftpd-common

2005-10-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 08:05:19PM +0100, Stefan Hornburg wrote:
> Hello, fellow developers !
> 
> I have a couple of questions about this bug:
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   pure-ftpd: Depends: pure-ftpd-common (= 1.0.19-6.0.1) but 1.0.19-6 is
>   to be installed 
> 
> Where are these 1.0.19-6.0.1 packages are coming from ? 
> 
> How can I fix this issue - just releasing 1.0.19-7 ?
> 
> Is the following line in debian/control too strict ?
> 
> Depends: pure-ftpd-common (=${Source-Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}
> 
> Thanks for your help !
> 

A three-part version after the last dash indicates a binary-only NMU.
Maybe Someone tried to do an NMU and it partially failed?

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Re: is the Debian mail server healthy?

2005-10-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:34:49 +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Oct 30, 2005, at 10:52, Marc Haber wrote:
>> I can confirm that master sits on some messages for days, such as this
>> one, for example:
>> |Received: from master.debian.org ([146.82.138.7])
>> |by torres.zugschlus.de with esmtp (Exim 4.54)
>> |id 1EVmC6-lm-8a
>> |for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:36:07 +0200
>> |Received: from qa by master.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1  
>> (Debian))
>> |id 1EUOw2-0003y4-00; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:33:50 -0500
>>
>> So, there might be a problem, because these things happen quite
>> regularly in the last few weeks.
>
>That does not mean that master has not tried to deliver it to you  
>during these days.

If it didn't try, it's broken. torres was available all the time and
was actually receiving mail.

>  Logs from master might shed some light over this  
>issue.

Right.

Greetings
Marc

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Help: Bug#336469: pure-ftpd uninstallable : no pure-ftpd-common

2005-10-30 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Hello, fellow developers !

I have a couple of questions about this bug:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  pure-ftpd: Depends: pure-ftpd-common (= 1.0.19-6.0.1) but 1.0.19-6 is
  to be installed 

Where are these 1.0.19-6.0.1 packages are coming from ? 

How can I fix this issue - just releasing 1.0.19-7 ?

Is the following line in debian/control too strict ?

Depends: pure-ftpd-common (=${Source-Version}), ${shlibs:Depends}

Thanks for your help !

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Bug#336481: ITP: epix -- create mathematically accurate graphics with a C++-like syntax

2005-10-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: epix
  Version : 1.0.6
  Upstream Author : Andrew D. Hwang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://math.holycross.edu/~ahwang/current/ePiX.html
* License : GPL
  Description : create mathematically accurate graphics with a C++-like 
syntax

ePiX (pronounced like "epic" with a soft "k", cf. "TeX") is a collection
of batch-oriented utilities for *nix, creates mathematically accurate
line figures, plots, and movies using easy-to-learn syntax. LaTeX and
dvips comprise the typographical rendering engine, while ImageMagick
is used to create bitmapped images and animations.  The user interface
resembles that of LaTeX: You prepare a short scene description in a
text editor, then "compile" the input file into a picture. Default
output formats are eepic (a plain text enhancement to the LaTeX
picture environment), eps, pdf, png, and mng.


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Re: In Need Of Serious Help

2005-10-30 Thread lisbeth

Hello,
Bare with me I am new to Linux, and I am not sure If this is the right 
place to post this ?, This is the errors I am receiving

QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kdecore (klibloader): Warning: KLibrary:/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4:
undefined symbol: init_kwifimanager_kamodule
ALSA lib pam_hw.c:494:(snd_pam_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START 
failed:Broken pipe

I hope this give a general idea, there are many more errors,
and I don't know what I am doing? Help Please


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Re: Dummy packages and metapackages (call for consistency in thedescriptions)

2005-10-30 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Andreas Tille [Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:23:20 +0100]:

> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, Adeodato [iso-8859-1] Simó wrote:

> > Would it be unreasonable to ask that metapackages have to be _empty_,
> > i.e., that all their functionality it's in their control file?

> As long as you give no reasons to do so I would in deed call it
> unreasonable.

  Dude, the second paragraph on my mail contains an example.

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Re: Dummy packages and metapackages (call for consistency in the descriptions)

2005-10-30 Thread Andreas Tille

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, Adeodato [iso-8859-1] Simó wrote:


 Would it be unreasonable to ask that metapackages have to be _empty_,
 i.e., that all their functionality it's in their control file?


As long as you give no reasons to do so I would in deed call it
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Re: is the Debian mail server healthy?

2005-10-30 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen


On Oct 30, 2005, at 10:52, Marc Haber wrote:


I can confirm that master sits on some messages for days, such as this
one, for example:
|Received: from master.debian.org ([146.82.138.7])
|by torres.zugschlus.de with esmtp (Exim 4.54)
|id 1EVmC6-lm-8a
|for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:36:07 +0200
|Received: from qa by master.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1  
(Debian))

|id 1EUOw2-0003y4-00; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:33:50 -0500

So, there might be a problem, because these things happen quite
regularly in the last few weeks.


That does not mean that master has not tried to deliver it to you  
during these days.  Logs from master might shed some light over this  
issue.


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Proposal: Start wrapping source control file fields

2005-10-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi,

A while ago bug 90989 was submitted, it was asking to extend the
definition of source control file fields to be all (physical not
logical) multi-line. I think it makes sense as we are supposedly
using RFC822, and more given some really long and obscene fields
in packages from d-i or xorg.

As debian-policy will not allow this kind of change without
demonstrated wide use, I'll start wrapping source control fields
on new uploads of all my packages. I did that pre-sarge, but
reverted just before release to not introduce possible delays
(although nothing broke during that period), and when lintian
started giving errors about that.

I will not set a lintian override so it's easy to track down,
be it to revert or to be able to see how wide spread it has got.

So please speak now if you have anything against this.

regards,
guillem


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Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-10-30 kello 10:37 +0100, Marc Haber kirjoitti:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:58:23 +1100, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >That is my point - adduser will print a warning if the user already
> >exists.
> >
> >So you need to check to make sure the user doesn't exist first, before
> >attempting to add it. Or you get a stupid warning appearing when
> >upgrading packages.
> 
> If you feel disturbed by the warning, redirect addusers output to
> /dev/null. It is specially tailored to not kill the package install if
> the user already exists.

This means that all other error messages will go to /dev/null as well.
adduser can fail for other reasons and it is not acceptable to make it
harder to debug for the sysadmin. I've stumbled upon several packages
doing that, and filed bugs on them, when testing things with piuparts,
which happened to create a chroot that was valid, but caused chage, and
therefore adduser, to fail. Packages that hid adduser's error messages
were much more annoying to deal with than those that let chage's error
message be visible.

I don't know perl, so I can't create a patch, sorry, but at a guess
changing the dief call around 693 to something that doesn't print out an
error message if --quiet has been given would seem to do the trick.

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Re: Sorting source packages to reduce build effort

2005-10-30 Thread Peter Samuelson

  [Daniel Ruoso]
> > The question is: Is there a way (I mean, already implemented) to sort
> > the packages putting the most used and less dependencies on the front
> > and showing wich packages needs to be installed before the build can
> > start?

[Goswin von Brederlow]
> No. :(

Sounds like a job for tsort, with input from apt-rdepends -b or
similar, driven by random scripting.


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Re: A thought about killing two bird with one stone

2005-10-30 Thread Luca Capello
Hello!

On Thu 27 Oct 2005 00:57 +0200, Brian May wrote:
> (I have seen a system that appears to run ntpdate on startup before
> the network is configured - but it hasn't bothered me enough to
> investigate why yet.)

If you're using ifplugd, this is a known (and wontfix) issue:

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=204499

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: apt with index diff support

2005-10-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow:

> Doesn't the 'If-Range: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:18:20 GMT' mean the proxy
> should query upstream? Also what is the time to live on the reply? And
> shouldn't the proxy always query for an update if the TTL is gone?

Indeed, I should have looked at the ngrep output more closely.  It
turns out that this clearly apt-proxy's fault.  The patch below should
fix this (it's only lightly tested, though).

diff -rN -u old-apt-proxy-1.9.32/apt_proxy/apt_proxy.py 
new-apt-proxy-1.9.32/apt_proxy/apt_proxy.py
--- old-apt-proxy-1.9.32/apt_proxy/apt_proxy.py 2005-10-30 11:04:52.0 
+0100
+++ new-apt-proxy-1.9.32/apt_proxy/apt_proxy.py 2005-10-30 11:04:52.0 
+0100
@@ -89,8 +89,8 @@
 FileType(re.compile(r"\.txt$"), "application/plain-text", 1),
 FileType(re.compile(r"\.html$"), "application/text-html", 1),
 
-FileType(re.compile(r"/(Packages|Release(\.gpg)?|Sources|Contents-.*)"
-r"(\.(gz|bz2))?$"), 
+FileType(re.compile(r"/(Packages|Release(\.gpg)?|Sources|Index"
+r"|(?:Contents|Translation)-.*)(\.(gz|bz2))?$"), 
  "text/plain", 1),
 
 FileType(re.compile(r"\.rpm$"), "application/rpm", 0),
diff -rN -u old-apt-proxy-1.9.32/debian/changelog 
new-apt-proxy-1.9.32/debian/changelog
--- old-apt-proxy-1.9.32/debian/changelog   2005-10-30 11:04:52.0 
+0100
+++ new-apt-proxy-1.9.32/debian/changelog   2005-10-30 11:04:52.0 
+0100
@@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
+apt-proxy (1.9.32.1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Non-maintainer upload
+  * Map type of "Index" and "Translation-*" files to text/plain.
+
+ -- Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Sun, 30 Oct 2005 11:04:48 +0100
+
 apt-proxy (1.9.32) unstable; urgency=low
 
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Re: is the Debian mail server healthy?

2005-10-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:04:02 +0200, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I only just now (Saturday) received the message from a mailing list I
>> had sent last Tuesday.  I know the message reached the mailing fine
>> since I already received replies to it on the Tuesday.  But the original
>> message only just came in.
>
>There were also some bugs for tetex-* that were never sent to the
>Maintainer: field, namely the debian-tetex-maint mailing list.

I can confirm that master sits on some messages for days, such as this
one, for example:
|Received: from master.debian.org ([146.82.138.7])
|by torres.zugschlus.de with esmtp (Exim 4.54)
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So, there might be a problem, because these things happen quite
regularly in the last few weeks.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: Packages file missing from unstable archive

2005-10-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Robert Lemmen wrote:
>> if zsync would be taught to handle .deb files as it does .gz files, and
>
> You are talking about freaking lot of metadata here, and about changing some
> key stuff to get --rsyncable compression.
>
> I may not understand why most apt metadata in .gz (Packages, Sources,
> Contents...) is not made --rsyncable, but I am quite sure the chances of
> anyone doing official changes to dpkg to use --rsyncable right now are nil.

Zsync checksum files are, depending on block size, about 3% of the
file size. For the full archive that means under 10G more data. As
comparison adding amd64 needs ~30G. After the scc split there might be
enough space on mirrors for both.

zsync is also more capable then rsync and can sync a normal gzip file
efficiently from the checksums of the uncompressed file. It will
download chunks of the gzip file containing changes and reconstruct
the gzip file from the local uncompressed data and those chunks. The
--rsyncable option is not needed as zsync can pinpoint the exact byte
where the changed uncompressed block starts in the gziped file.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:58:23 +1100, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That is my point - adduser will print a warning if the user already
>exists.
>
>So you need to check to make sure the user doesn't exist first, before
>attempting to add it. Or you get a stupid warning appearing when
>upgrading packages.

If you feel disturbed by the warning, redirect addusers output to
/dev/null. It is specially tailored to not kill the package install if
the user already exists.

>or in a practical sense either:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# adduser aaa
>adduser: The user `aaa' already exists.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# adduser --quiet aaa
>adduser: The user `aaa' already exists.
>
>(this is sarge/stable - maybe it has changed in unstable?)

Probably not. Maybe one should add an option to suppress these
messages on request. An appropriate patch would be appreciated.

>[1] What is a "progress" message?

Probably inappropriate wording for adduser. An appropriate patch would
be appreciated.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: apt with index diff support

2005-10-30 Thread Andreas Metzler
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> PS: Is the index file listed in Release?

Quoting http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/Release
[...]
41c3cd8cf26c2eba317c37dfe9d0d3bf  2761295 main/binary-alpha/Packages.bz2
18680c3a635a695e01f69166daef4148 2177 main/binary-alpha/Packages.diff/Index
3af8fbafe3e4538520989de964289712   83 main/binary-alpha/Release
[...]
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Re: apt with index diff support

2005-10-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * Michael Vogt:
>
>> When fully supported by the archive, the diff support will be
>> completely transparent, no changes on your side necessary.
>
> When downloading the Index file, APT does not send instructions to
> bypass the proxy cache:
>
> T 212.9.189.177:51459 -> 212.9.189.169: [AP]
>   GET /debian/dists/experimental/main/source/Sources.diff/Index HTTP/1.1..Hos
>   t: proxy.enyo.de:..Connection: keep-alive..User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/
>   1.3GET /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 HTTP/1.1..H
>   ost: proxy.enyo.de:..Connection: keep-alive..Range: bytes=246835-..If-R
>   ange: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:18:20 GMT..User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3   
>
> (This is with apt 0.6.42.1exp1.)
>
> This means that apt-proxy (and probably other proxies as well) returns
> a stale copy.  Sure, this could be fixed on the proxy side, but I
> think to actually achieve the transparency you are aiming at, you have
> to implement a workaround in APT.

Doesn't the 'If-Range: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:18:20 GMT' mean the proxy
should query upstream? Also what is the time to live on the reply? And
shouldn't the proxy always query for an update if the TTL is gone?

I don't want to download the diff every time. Not when I update a
32 Nodes cluster over one proxy within minutes. So just plainly
baypassing the proxy seems wrong.

> (Apart from that, I can only repeated what I already wrote a couple of
> weeks ago: Nice work.)

MfG
Goswin

PS: Is the index file listed in Release?


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Re: Sorting source packages to reduce build effort

2005-10-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Ruoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> As you may know, I'm working on i386-uclibc arch. And I'm finally
> starting to build the base+build-essential packages. At this moment I
> have a list of 87 source packages (not counting these packages
> build-dep) that must be built.
>
> The question is: Is there a way (I mean, already implemented) to sort
> the packages putting the most used and less dependencies on the front
> and showing wich packages needs to be installed before the build can
> start? (I have a gentoo-embedded environment, so I can emerge the
> build-depends for the most important packages).
>
> daniel

No. :(

MfG
Goswin


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