Re: I want one of those!

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:30:04AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> Now I'm not a buildd operator nor do I have any experience on non-x86 
> arches, but a 16 core MIPS 1U server that only pulls 50W power and that 
> ships with Debian preinstalled just has a very high coolness factor :-)
> 
> http://www.movidis.com/products/rev.asp
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=192201783&subSection=Breaking+News

Nice.

> (Ok, I know this is OT for d-d.  You can all go back to bashing JS now.)

So why don't you post it to -publicity?


Michael


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Work-needing packages report for Aug 18, 2006

2006-08-18 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 330 (new: 16)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 105 (new: 23)
Total number of packages requested help for: 25 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   blogtk (#382797), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: GTK Weblogging client
 Installations reported by Popcon: 68

   classworlds (#382813), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: Java ClassLoader Framework
 Reverse Depends: groovy
 Installations reported by Popcon: 38

   cvsps (#382809), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: Tool to generate CVS patch set information
 Reverse Depends: git-cvs
 Installations reported by Popcon: 244

   d4x (#382732), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: graphical download manager
 Reverse Depends: d4x
 Installations reported by Popcon: 283

   forrest (#382814), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: XML based documentation framework
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2

   gnome-extra-icons (#382810), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: Optional GNOME icons
 Installations reported by Popcon: 915

   groovy (#382815), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: Agile dynamic language for the Java Virtual Machine
 Installations reported by Popcon: 23

   jswat (#382816), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: JPDA java debugger
 Installations reported by Popcon: 13

   jswat2 (#382817), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: JPDA java debugger
 Installations reported by Popcon: 29

   libproc-process-perl (#382811), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: Perl library for accessing process table information
 Installations reported by Popcon: 293

   mined (#382750), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: Powerful text editor with extensive Unicode and CJK
   support
 Installations reported by Popcon: 32

   mockobjects (#382818), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: Framework for developing and using mock objects
 Reverse Depends: groovy
 Installations reported by Popcon: 30

   pgpdump (#383129), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: PGP packet visualizer
 Installations reported by Popcon: 67

   rsjog (#383134), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: A handler for Sony Vaio "Jog Dial"
 Installations reported by Popcon: 7

   tclsoap (#383530), orphaned today
 Description: SOAP implementation for Tcl.
 Installations reported by Popcon: 7

   xearth (#382654), orphaned 5 days ago (non-free)
 Description: Show a rotating earth on your X root window
 Installations reported by Popcon: 259

314 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   bfm (#382554), offered 6 days ago
 Description: A load monitor dockapp, descended from wmfishtime and
   bubblemon.
 Installations reported by Popcon: 240

   filerunner (#382555), offered 6 days ago
 Description: X-Based FTP program & file manager
 Installations reported by Popcon: 86

   gnubik (#382556), offered 6 days ago
 Description: 3D Rubik's cube game
 Installations reported by Popcon: 100

   gtimer (#382727), offered 5 days ago
 Description: GTK-based X11 task timer
 Installations reported by Popcon: 124

   ingo1 (#382563), offered 6 days ago
 Description: email filter component for Horde Framework
 Installations reported by Popcon: 70

   kronolith2 (#382564), offered 6 days ago
 Description: calendar component for Horde Framework
 Installations reported by Popcon: 60

   mnemo2 (#382565), offered 6 days ago
 Description: notes/memos component for Horde Framework
 Installations reported by Popcon: 42

   mydns (#382656), offered 5 days ago
 Description: DNS server using MySQL or PostgreSQL for data storage
 Installations reported by Popcon: 20

   nag2 (#382566), offered 6 days ago
 Description: task list component for Horde Framework
 Installations reported by Popcon: 54

   php-http-request (#383009), offered 3 days ago
 Description: provides an easy way to perform HTTP requests
 Reverse Depends: kronolith2 php-services-weather php-soap
   serendipity tikiwiki
 Installations reported by Popcon: 182

   php-log (#383010), offered 3 days ago
 Description: Log module for PEAR
 Reverse Depends: egroupware-core horde3 knowledgetree
 Installations reported by Popcon: 121

   php-net-checkip (#383011), offered 3 days ago
 Description: check the syntax of IPv4 addresses
 Installations reported by Popcon: 17

   php-net-dime (#3

Bug#383595: ITP: aria2 -- High speed download utility

2006-08-18 Thread Patrick Ruckstuhl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Patrick Ruckstuhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: aria2
  Version : 0.7.1 
  Upstream Author : Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://aria2.sourceforge.net
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : High speed download utility


Aria2 is a command line download client with resuming and segmented downloading.
Supported protocols are HTTP/HTTPS/FTP/BitTorrent and it also supports
Metalink.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.16.16
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)


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Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-18 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 18 August 2006 06:56, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:48:24PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> > So are some widespread programming languages. If you blindly follow bad
> > examples and bad styles you can dynamite yourself happily without even
> > noticing, but that does not make them disused or abandoned (on the
> > contrary some of them have notoriously prolonged life cycle ;-)... it
> > just matters who is using them and how.
>
> People without the skill to program in error-prone languages are
> encouraged to use more idiot-proof ones instead.  

The human itself is prone to error, and even skilled people could make funny 
and hard to detect errs, based on their current mood, attitude and character 
if you want, which tends to be impermanent.

> Why isn't the same done for build frameworks?

/* I rather wrote about their rеsemblance, not their divergence */
Probably because masses first invent and face the error-prone solution, then 
ascertain the fact that they are enough error-prone to be used by mortals, 
which could take quite long periods of time needed to accumulate that 
experience, and then strive to find out and learn about more robust 
approaches. E.g. if Ada predated C, we shouldn't see some of the human-nature 
based errors in UNIX, when you meant foo, but it easily turned to be bar 
instead ;-)... I don't believe this applies to autotools, even though beasts 
like scons seems to be better imho leaving lesser room to dig in errors.

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Re: I want one of those!

2006-08-18 Thread Riku Voipio
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:30:04AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> Now I'm not a buildd operator nor do I have any experience on non-x86 
> arches, but a 16 core MIPS 1U server that only pulls 50W power and that 
> ships with Debian preinstalled just has a very high coolness factor :-)

> http://www.movidis.com/products/rev.asp

Has anyone contacted movidis/cavium of getting this system supported
in etch? It would make a nice bullet in etch release notes :)


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Re: Why no /usr/local/etc in Debian?

2006-08-18 Thread Holger Levsen
severity 383493 serious
thanks

Hi,

On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:45, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> FYI, I've now filed this as #383493.  (Filed as "important" rather than
> "serious" to avoid stepping on the toes of release people.)

I've learnt that not filing bugs with the appropriate severity does more harm 
than good. We do want Etch to comply with FHS 2.3, don't we?! :)

Note that FHS 2.1 didn't mention /usr/local/etc, while 2.3 does. I'd say this 
explains why we have this bug today.

http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html#USRLOCALLOCALHIERARCHY


regards,
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Re: I want one of those!

2006-08-18 Thread Thomas Weber
Am Freitag, den 18.08.2006, 11:27 +0300 schrieb Riku Voipio:
> > http://www.movidis.com/products/rev.asp
> 
> Has anyone contacted movidis/cavium of getting this system supported
> in etch? It would make a nice bullet in etch release notes :)

According to the linked informationweek article in Adrians's original
posting, this machine actually ships with Debian.

Regards
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Re: I want one of those!

2006-08-18 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-18 10:48]:
> > Has anyone contacted movidis/cavium of getting this system supported
> > in etch? It would make a nice bullet in etch release notes :)
> 
> According to the linked informationweek article in Adrians's original
> posting, this machine actually ships with Debian.

That's not the point.  The point is that the system is not supported
by Debian, i.e. there's no kernel for it, no debian-installer support,
etc.

While it would be nice to support this system (and I'll probably see
what I can do), there are plenty of problems.  As a starter, the
Cavium people haven't actually published kernel patches for inclusion
in mainline...
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Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-08-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti:
> > * Package name: openwatcom
> >   Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable 
> > code
> 
> What does it mean for a compiler to produce portable code?

It produce executables for msdos, wfw311, win32, and linux.

(I am using DJGPP since around 14 years and OpenWatcom since 8 years)

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take anything you like...

2006-08-18 Thread Wolfgang Lonien
DDD (Dear Debian Developers),

just said kind of "thanks" in a mail to debian-boot, but I forgot to
mention one thing:

if anyone of you wants to take anything from my pages, for instance the
screenshots from

http://blog.thedebianuser.org/?p=27 (text-mode install) or
http://blog.thedebianuser.org/?p=79 (graphical install)

for any *.debian.* site or event, feel free to do so. I can only speak
for myself, but my stuff (also on wolfgang.lonien.de) may be used by all
of you (if there's something useful).

Thanks for working on Debian.

kind regards,
Wolfgang

P.S.: please CC me in case of answers. Thanks again.

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Bug#383609: ITP: pgfouine - PostgreSQL log analyzer

2006-08-18 Thread Clément Stenac

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: pgfouine
* Version : 0.7
* Upstream Author : Guillaume Smet
* URL : http://pgfouine.projects.postgresql.org/
* License : GPL
* Programming Lang: PHP
* Description : PostgreSQL log analyzer

pgFouine is a PostgreSQL log analyzer used to generate detailed reports
from a PostgreSQL log file.

It is able to:
* Analyze queries, to help determine which queries should be optimized to
speed up PostgreSQL based applications
* Get an overview of the database activity
* Analyse VACUUM maintainance operations
* Generate session files for the Tsung load testing software

pgFouine is easily extensible to add custom reports.






Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen

Rafael Laboissiere skrev:


I think that, in the case of responsive list moderators, this is indeed
the right thing to do.  However, I do not know how to configure Mailman
for doing it.  Does someone know?


Set respond_to_post_requests to no.  It's under notifications on the 
general settings page for the list.


- tfheen


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Re: Problems with security updates

2006-08-18 Thread Mgr. Peter Tuharsky

I just encountered another crash upon saving .sxw
Lucky that I don't use OpenOffice.org daily...

Peter

Mgr. Peter Tuharsky  wrote / napísal(a):

Ralph,

it's interesting, but now it works for me too, versions are the same. 
Just few days ago it "crashed happily".


Well, seems it would be harder to abandon Debian than it seemed :o) In 
fact, very hard for me..



Peter





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Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-08-18 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti:
> > > * Package name: openwatcom
> > >   Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, 
> > > portable code
> > 
> > What does it mean for a compiler to produce portable code?
> 
> It produce executables for msdos, wfw311, win32, and linux.

Erm, no.  That's a cross-compiler, isn't it?  Any given output isn't
portable (it will run only on one OS), but it can just target multiple
backends.

And when you say Linux, I assume you mean Linux on i386 only.  (Which
limits its utility compared to gcc, and means we can't use it to build
any Debian packages).


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Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-08-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-08-18 08:10:27, schrieb John Goerzen:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> > > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti:
> > > > * Package name: openwatcom
> > > >   Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, 
> > > > portable code
> > > 
> > > What does it mean for a compiler to produce portable code?
> > 
> > It produce executables for msdos, wfw311, win32, and linux.
> 
> Erm, no.  That's a cross-compiler, isn't it?  Any given output isn't
> portable (it will run only on one OS), but it can just target multiple
> backends.

Yes thats right.  You have ONE IDE (Windows and Linux are identic)
and you can produce on any systems Executable for other systems.

Except on DOS and WfW 3.11 where you can produce only 16Bit exes.

> And when you say Linux, I assume you mean Linux on i386 only.  (Which

Right

> limits its utility compared to gcc, and means we can't use it to build
> any Debian packages).

YesNo!  ;-9

The OpneWatcom has some extensions which do not exist in gcc
but produced Linux executable are running fine on Debian systems.

And then there are some C/C++ programs which can not compiled with
OpenWatcom.

I have create some and packed it up as Debian package.

Generaly it is its own system.

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Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen


On 2006-08-17 04:53:36, Matthias Julius wrote:


You could run autoconf from within rules and have configure be
created
during build.


Doh, why didn't I come up with that idea:-)
This is of-course the must generic solution.
Thanks.

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Re: Problems with security updates

2006-08-18 Thread Miriam Ruiz

 --- "Mgr. Peter Tuharsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> I just encountered another crash upon saving .sxw
> Lucky that I don't use OpenOffice.org daily...
> 
>   Peter

You should send a bug report to the BTS. Is there any point in publishing
every bug in this list?

BTW, What's the real purpose of using sentences like "Lucky that I don't use
OpenOffice.org daily"? It doesn't seem to add any value to your complaint and
it just gives a bad impression of your mail.

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Re: libslang2 breaks jed

2006-08-18 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Alastair,

Alastair McKinstry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jörg Sommer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've two problems with libslang2. The first is, the package libslang2
>> includes a patch that changes the behaviour of a function.
> I apologize for this; I'd lost track of this particular bug (busy doing
> RL) and
> forgot to upload. Will do so today.

Thank you.

>> And the second problem is, the dependency version for libslang2 calcuated
>> by dh_shlibdeps is always 2.0.1-1 although the installed version is
>> newer. Why? How can I change this? There were bug fixes in libslang2
>> since 2.0.1-1. I need a newer version than this.
>>
>>   
> You should just be able to do libslang2 (>= 2.0.6-3) in jed

Where? In the control file? The I get two entries of libslang2.

> to force dependencies on a late version. Nevertheless, as the behaviour
> of libslang has changed with the above change, I'll change the slib
> dependencies.

How you do this and how can you control the version that is picked out
in a different package?

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Bug#383645: ITP: nta -- network traffic analyzer, generate static html reports from /proc/net/dev

2006-08-18 Thread Luca Bigliardi
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Luca Bigliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: nta
  Version : 1.1
  Upstream Author : C. McCohy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://nta.kyberdigi.cz/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : network traffic analyzer, generate static html reports from 
/proc/net/dev

NTA is a perl script intended to run under cron that generates static
html reports of traffic passed through network interfaces.


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Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-18 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Russ Allbery may or may not have written...

> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> And, for example, all of a sudden (autoconf 2.5, I think) every/many
>> (newly generated or regenerated) configure script starting checking for
>> C++ compilers, Fortran compilers, etc. etc. etc. even for pure C projects.

> This is a libtool bug.

I'm using the following workaround for gxine (due to the browser plugin):

  m4_undefine([AC_PROG_CXX])
  m4_defun([AC_PROG_CXX],[])
  m4_undefine([AC_PROG_F77])
  m4_defun([AC_PROG_F77],[])

before invoking any A[CM]*LIBTOOL*.

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Re: Remove cdrtools

2006-08-18 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Aug-06, 23:33 (CDT), Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> [Steve Greenland]
> > By "autoconf related problems" I mean things like it suddenly
> > deciding it's running a cross compiler, or that stdlib.h is
> > missing. A lot of this kind of stuff could be improved by simply
> > SHOWING ME THE FSCKING ERROR MESSAGES, rather than just checking the
> > return code and guessing.
> 
> Too bad autoconf doesn't keep a log of everything configure does.[1]
> 
>[1] In case you missed it, it's called 'config.log'.

Amazingly enough, I knew about this.

>From an apache2 config.log, just 'cause it's the first one I found:

configure:2533: checking whether gcc accepts -g
configure:2565: checking how to run the C preprocessor
configure:2966: checking for rm
configure:3003: checking for mawk
configure:3044: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:3097: checking whether ln -s works
configure:3126: checking for ranlib
configure:3192: checking for AIX
configure:3216: checking for POSIXized ISC
configure:3238: checking for minix/config.h
configure:3291: checking for ANSI C header files
configure:3409: checking for string.h
configure:3409: checking for limits.h
configure:3409: checking for unistd.h
configure:3409: checking for sys/socket.h
configure:3409: checking for pwd.h
configure:3409: checking for grp.h

No sign of what it actually did, no sign of whether the answer was
yes or no. Yes, there is some stuff in there. But not always enough.
Sometimes it spits out what the compile command was, and the code used,
and sometimes it doesn't.

Hmmm, why is it checking for "string.h" and "limits.h" after it has
already checked for "ANSI C header files"?

Well, this has devolved into a "Yes it is"/"No it isn't" kind of
argument, and maybe that's all it can be: I don't like the autotools,
because of my particular experiences with them, and others do, because
of their particular experiences.

Steve

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Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 17 August 2006 22:57 schrieb Otavio Salvador:
> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The suggestion to use "nodaemon" as default for exim4 when only handling
> > local mail will probably be rejected?
>
> I guess you meant nullmailer.

No. I meant the setting in /etc/default/exim4

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Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-08-18 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti:
> > > * Package name: openwatcom
> > >   Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, 
> > > portable code
> > 

You should check the list archives.  Others have proposed to package
openwatcom, but there are license issues that prevent it from being in
debian, even in non-free.

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Question about different kernel versions included on Etch

2006-08-18 Thread carlopmart

Hi all,

 I need to deploy several xen servers under Debia nEtch next week, and 
I have one doubt. Which is the difference between these kernels: 
linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-686 and linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686? 
What does it means -vserver suffix?? Can I install third party kernel 
modules to these kernel like as I can do with "normal" kernels??


Many thanks.

P.D: sorry for the cross posting.

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using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen

Hi list,

I have a package which relies on support for long long and using gcc  
does not give problems. The same goes for printf support of %m. What  
various me is that these features are not supported in ISO C90. My  
question is if this is problem in Debian and if so should I make some  
checking in configure.ac and provide work-arounds in config.h?


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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-08-18 kello 23:25 +0200, Michael Rasmussen kirjoitti:
> I have a package which relies on support for long long and using gcc  
> does not give problems. The same goes for printf support of %m. What  
> various me is that these features are not supported in ISO C90. My  
> question is if this is problem in Debian and if so should I make some  
> checking in configure.ac and provide work-arounds in config.h?

C90 has been obsoleted by C99. The C implementation we have, consisting
of gcc and glibc, support long long and %m (the latter being a GNU
extension, even, it seems).

Anyway, the target platform for packages in Debian is Debian; you don't
need to provide portability fixes for non-Debian platforms. It may be
nice to do so, if you wish to help upstream, but for Debian, it is not
necessary. We've got enough to do, we don't need to worry about other
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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen


On 2006-08-18 23:36:50, Lars Wirzenius wrote:


C90 has been obsoleted by C99. The C implementation we have,
consisting
of gcc and glibc, support long long and %m (the latter being a GNU
extension, even, it seems).

So from what your a saying it would be allowed to add -std=c99 to gcc  
options? It would be nice since I will avoid these warnings using  
option -pedantic including warning against // before comments:-)


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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 18 August 2006 23:25 schrieb Michael Rasmussen:
> I have a package which relies on support for long long and using gcc
> does not give problems. The same goes for printf support of %m.

No, %m is, according to printf(2) manpage:
m  (Glibc extension.)  Print output of strerror(errno).  No argument is 
required.

So why isn't
 printf("%s\n",strerror(errno));
used instead of
 printf("%m\n");
?
Not like a problem in Debian GNU/* but you should tell upstream about 
questionable coding style and portability.

> What 
> various me is that these features are not supported in ISO C90. My
> question is if this is problem in Debian and if so should I make some
> checking in configure.ac and provide work-arounds in config.h?

Either it compiles in Debian or it doesn't.

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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen


On 2006-08-18 23:48:02, Hendrik Sattler wrote:


So why isn't
 printf("%s\n",strerror(errno));
used instead of
 printf("%m\n");
?
Not like a problem in Debian GNU/* but you should tell upstream about

questionable coding style and portability.

I agree with you on this issue - I personally prefer to apply to the  
standard specifications, so this will be change in source. Upstream is  
no problem since upstream is me - I have taken over an abandon  
application.


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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-08-18 kello 23:44 +0200, Michael Rasmussen kirjoitti:
> So from what your a saying it would be allowed to add -std=c99 to gcc  
> options? It would be nice since I will avoid these warnings using  
> option -pedantic including warning against // before comments:-)

Unless -std=c99 doesn't work on one of the Debian archs, certainly.

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Re: Problems with security updates

2006-08-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 04:16:47PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote:

> You should send a bug report to the BTS.

No, he shouldn't.  There is already an open bug report for this issue.

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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen


On 2006-08-19 00:25:38, Lars Wirzenius wrote:


Unless -std=c99 doesn't work on one of the Debian archs, certainly.


Great. Now added, and a nice warning free compilation as a result:-)

Is there any written documentation on debian.org for support of c99 in  
the archs supported by debian?


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Re: Bug#381599: ITP (RFC): python-debian -- python modules to work with Debian-related data formats

2006-08-18 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Adeodato Simó [Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:05:33 +0200]:

> also create a mailing list somewhere

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-python-debian-discuss

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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 12:52:17AM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote:

> Is there any written documentation on debian.org for support of c99 in  
> the archs supported by debian?

Well, even the gcc-4.2 documentation still has the sentence "GCC has
incomplete support for this [C99] standard version", so IMHO the formal
answer is "no Debian arch has full C99 support with the default
compiler".

On the other hand, most of the useful features of C99 seem to be supported
in current gcc versions, so the real-life answer is more like "you can
assume C99 support on all archs".

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Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen


On 2006-08-19 02:47:55, Gabor Gombas wrote:

in current gcc versions, so the real-life answer is more like "you
can
assume C99 support on all archs".


Nice, thanks.

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Bug#383735: ITP: renpy -- framework for developing visual-novel type games

2006-08-18 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: renpy
  Version : 5.5.4
  Upstream Author : PyTom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.bishoujo.us/renpy/
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python, C
  Description : framework for developing visual-novel type games

Ren'Py is a programming language and runtime, intended to ease the creation
of visual-novel type games. It contains features that make it easy to
display thoughts, dialogue, and menus; to display images to the user; to
write game logic; and to support the saving and loading of games.

Ren'Py tries to be like an executable script, allowing you to get a working
game without much more effort than is required to type the game script into
the computer.

Ren'Py is implemented on top of python, and that python heritage shows
through in many places. Many Ren'Py statements allow python expressions
to be used, and there are also Ren'Py statements that allow for the
execution of arbitrary python code. Many of the less-used features of
Ren'Py are exposed to the user by way of python. By only requiring use of
the simplest features of python, it's hoped that Ren'Py will be usable by
all game authors.

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Re: Bug#381568: ITP: med-fichier -- Library to exchange meshed data

2006-08-18 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 06:36:54AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > but some kind of strange feeling continues if I hear this name (and
> > the translation of it).  It's just misleading.
> 
> Er, just because you have a "strange feeling" doesn't mean the name is
> misleading.
> 
> "Med" is pretty ambiguous.  _I_ certainly don't have any immediate
> reaction that it contains "medical software," and I don't think it's a
> generally used abbreviation for medical in the wider population --

Not that I live in USA...  In USA, when an university student says
"pre-med" , that kids is trying to go to medical school. It is certainly
recognised as one short form for medical.   But quick look up in google
gives you "med" will lead you to things not only for
 www.med.stanford.edu
but
 club med (resort club name: "med" implicitly means Mediterranean)
.

So it can be many other thigss too.  (But you find mostly medical
related words there)

3 letter acronyms tend to crash each other so much. Considering this
being somewhat specialised purpose, I should say avoiding name crash was
prudent thing to do.

Osamu


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Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-18 Thread Bernd Schubert


Marc Haber wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:03:31 +0200, Bernd Schubert
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Ubuntu already has vmware kernel module packages
> 
> Yes, but adapting them to Debian seems to be nontrivial. I have not
> yet been able to get them build on Debian.

Actually I didn't have much problems using the Ubuntu directory, though I
have to admit that it was overly complex. You may find a cleaned up version
here:
http://www.pci.uni-heidelberg.de/tc/usr/bernd/downloads/vmware-modules/

Just tell me, if there's a problem with it.

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