Re: I want one of those!
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:30:04AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Now I'm not a buildd operator nor do I have any experience on non-x86 > arches, but a 16 core MIPS 1U server that only pulls 50W power and that > ships with Debian preinstalled just has a very high coolness factor :-) > > http://www.movidis.com/products/rev.asp > http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=192201783&subSection=Breaking+News Nice. > (Ok, I know this is OT for d-d. You can all go back to bashing JS now.) So why don't you post it to -publicity? Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Work-needing packages report for Aug 18, 2006
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 330 (new: 16) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 105 (new: 23) Total number of packages requested help for: 25 (new: 0) Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information. The following packages have been orphaned: blogtk (#382797), orphaned 4 days ago Description: GTK Weblogging client Installations reported by Popcon: 68 classworlds (#382813), orphaned 4 days ago Description: Java ClassLoader Framework Reverse Depends: groovy Installations reported by Popcon: 38 cvsps (#382809), orphaned 4 days ago Description: Tool to generate CVS patch set information Reverse Depends: git-cvs Installations reported by Popcon: 244 d4x (#382732), orphaned 5 days ago Description: graphical download manager Reverse Depends: d4x Installations reported by Popcon: 283 forrest (#382814), orphaned 4 days ago Description: XML based documentation framework Installations reported by Popcon: 2 gnome-extra-icons (#382810), orphaned 4 days ago Description: Optional GNOME icons Installations reported by Popcon: 915 groovy (#382815), orphaned 4 days ago Description: Agile dynamic language for the Java Virtual Machine Installations reported by Popcon: 23 jswat (#382816), orphaned 4 days ago Description: JPDA java debugger Installations reported by Popcon: 13 jswat2 (#382817), orphaned 4 days ago Description: JPDA java debugger Installations reported by Popcon: 29 libproc-process-perl (#382811), orphaned 4 days ago Description: Perl library for accessing process table information Installations reported by Popcon: 293 mined (#382750), orphaned 5 days ago Description: Powerful text editor with extensive Unicode and CJK support Installations reported by Popcon: 32 mockobjects (#382818), orphaned 4 days ago Description: Framework for developing and using mock objects Reverse Depends: groovy Installations reported by Popcon: 30 pgpdump (#383129), orphaned 3 days ago Description: PGP packet visualizer Installations reported by Popcon: 67 rsjog (#383134), orphaned 2 days ago Description: A handler for Sony Vaio "Jog Dial" Installations reported by Popcon: 7 tclsoap (#383530), orphaned today Description: SOAP implementation for Tcl. Installations reported by Popcon: 7 xearth (#382654), orphaned 5 days ago (non-free) Description: Show a rotating earth on your X root window Installations reported by Popcon: 259 314 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list. The following packages have been given up for adoption: bfm (#382554), offered 6 days ago Description: A load monitor dockapp, descended from wmfishtime and bubblemon. Installations reported by Popcon: 240 filerunner (#382555), offered 6 days ago Description: X-Based FTP program & file manager Installations reported by Popcon: 86 gnubik (#382556), offered 6 days ago Description: 3D Rubik's cube game Installations reported by Popcon: 100 gtimer (#382727), offered 5 days ago Description: GTK-based X11 task timer Installations reported by Popcon: 124 ingo1 (#382563), offered 6 days ago Description: email filter component for Horde Framework Installations reported by Popcon: 70 kronolith2 (#382564), offered 6 days ago Description: calendar component for Horde Framework Installations reported by Popcon: 60 mnemo2 (#382565), offered 6 days ago Description: notes/memos component for Horde Framework Installations reported by Popcon: 42 mydns (#382656), offered 5 days ago Description: DNS server using MySQL or PostgreSQL for data storage Installations reported by Popcon: 20 nag2 (#382566), offered 6 days ago Description: task list component for Horde Framework Installations reported by Popcon: 54 php-http-request (#383009), offered 3 days ago Description: provides an easy way to perform HTTP requests Reverse Depends: kronolith2 php-services-weather php-soap serendipity tikiwiki Installations reported by Popcon: 182 php-log (#383010), offered 3 days ago Description: Log module for PEAR Reverse Depends: egroupware-core horde3 knowledgetree Installations reported by Popcon: 121 php-net-checkip (#383011), offered 3 days ago Description: check the syntax of IPv4 addresses Installations reported by Popcon: 17 php-net-dime (#3
Bug#383595: ITP: aria2 -- High speed download utility
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Patrick Ruckstuhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: aria2 Version : 0.7.1 Upstream Author : Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://aria2.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : High speed download utility Aria2 is a command line download client with resuming and segmented downloading. Supported protocols are HTTP/HTTPS/FTP/BitTorrent and it also supports Metalink. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16.16 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remove cdrtools
On Friday 18 August 2006 06:56, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:48:24PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > So are some widespread programming languages. If you blindly follow bad > > examples and bad styles you can dynamite yourself happily without even > > noticing, but that does not make them disused or abandoned (on the > > contrary some of them have notoriously prolonged life cycle ;-)... it > > just matters who is using them and how. > > People without the skill to program in error-prone languages are > encouraged to use more idiot-proof ones instead. The human itself is prone to error, and even skilled people could make funny and hard to detect errs, based on their current mood, attitude and character if you want, which tends to be impermanent. > Why isn't the same done for build frameworks? /* I rather wrote about their rеsemblance, not their divergence */ Probably because masses first invent and face the error-prone solution, then ascertain the fact that they are enough error-prone to be used by mortals, which could take quite long periods of time needed to accumulate that experience, and then strive to find out and learn about more robust approaches. E.g. if Ada predated C, we shouldn't see some of the human-nature based errors in UNIX, when you meant foo, but it easily turned to be bar instead ;-)... I don't believe this applies to autotools, even though beasts like scons seems to be better imho leaving lesser room to dig in errors. -- pub 4096R/0E4BD0AB 2003-03-18 fingerprint 1AE7 7C66 0A26 5BFF DF22 5D55 1C57 0C89 0E4B D0AB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want one of those!
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:30:04AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Now I'm not a buildd operator nor do I have any experience on non-x86 > arches, but a 16 core MIPS 1U server that only pulls 50W power and that > ships with Debian preinstalled just has a very high coolness factor :-) > http://www.movidis.com/products/rev.asp Has anyone contacted movidis/cavium of getting this system supported in etch? It would make a nice bullet in etch release notes :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why no /usr/local/etc in Debian?
severity 383493 serious thanks Hi, On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:45, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > FYI, I've now filed this as #383493. (Filed as "important" rather than > "serious" to avoid stepping on the toes of release people.) I've learnt that not filing bugs with the appropriate severity does more harm than good. We do want Etch to comply with FHS 2.3, don't we?! :) Note that FHS 2.1 didn't mention /usr/local/etc, while 2.3 does. I'd say this explains why we have this bug today. http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html#USRLOCALLOCALHIERARCHY regards, Holger pgpd3VGzzbVKe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I want one of those!
Am Freitag, den 18.08.2006, 11:27 +0300 schrieb Riku Voipio: > > http://www.movidis.com/products/rev.asp > > Has anyone contacted movidis/cavium of getting this system supported > in etch? It would make a nice bullet in etch release notes :) According to the linked informationweek article in Adrians's original posting, this machine actually ships with Debian. Regards Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want one of those!
* Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-18 10:48]: > > Has anyone contacted movidis/cavium of getting this system supported > > in etch? It would make a nice bullet in etch release notes :) > > According to the linked informationweek article in Adrians's original > posting, this machine actually ships with Debian. That's not the point. The point is that the system is not supported by Debian, i.e. there's no kernel for it, no debian-installer support, etc. While it would be nice to support this system (and I'll probably see what I can do), there are plenty of problems. As a starter, the Cavium people haven't actually published kernel patches for inclusion in mainline... -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code
Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti: > > * Package name: openwatcom > > Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable > > code > > What does it mean for a compiler to produce portable code? It produce executables for msdos, wfw311, win32, and linux. (I am using DJGPP since around 14 years and OpenWatcom since 8 years) Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
take anything you like...
DDD (Dear Debian Developers), just said kind of "thanks" in a mail to debian-boot, but I forgot to mention one thing: if anyone of you wants to take anything from my pages, for instance the screenshots from http://blog.thedebianuser.org/?p=27 (text-mode install) or http://blog.thedebianuser.org/?p=79 (graphical install) for any *.debian.* site or event, feel free to do so. I can only speak for myself, but my stuff (also on wolfgang.lonien.de) may be used by all of you (if there's something useful). Thanks for working on Debian. kind regards, Wolfgang P.S.: please CC me in case of answers. Thanks again. -- wjl aka Wolfgang Lonien GPG key: 728D9BD0 Fingerprint: a9232294b7edeb3e2f18ae56aab8d36a728d9bd0 http://wolfgang.lonien.de/ http://thedebianuser.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#383609: ITP: pgfouine - PostgreSQL log analyzer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: pgfouine * Version : 0.7 * Upstream Author : Guillaume Smet * URL : http://pgfouine.projects.postgresql.org/ * License : GPL * Programming Lang: PHP * Description : PostgreSQL log analyzer pgFouine is a PostgreSQL log analyzer used to generate detailed reports from a PostgreSQL log file. It is able to: * Analyze queries, to help determine which queries should be optimized to speed up PostgreSQL based applications * Get an overview of the database activity * Analyse VACUUM maintainance operations * Generate session files for the Tsung load testing software pgFouine is easily extensible to add custom reports.
Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)
Rafael Laboissiere skrev: I think that, in the case of responsive list moderators, this is indeed the right thing to do. However, I do not know how to configure Mailman for doing it. Does someone know? Set respond_to_post_requests to no. It's under notifications on the general settings page for the list. - tfheen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with security updates
I just encountered another crash upon saving .sxw Lucky that I don't use OpenOffice.org daily... Peter Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote / napísal(a): Ralph, it's interesting, but now it works for me too, versions are the same. Just few days ago it "crashed happily". Well, seems it would be harder to abandon Debian than it seemed :o) In fact, very hard for me.. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti: > > > * Package name: openwatcom > > > Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, > > > portable code > > > > What does it mean for a compiler to produce portable code? > > It produce executables for msdos, wfw311, win32, and linux. Erm, no. That's a cross-compiler, isn't it? Any given output isn't portable (it will run only on one OS), but it can just target multiple backends. And when you say Linux, I assume you mean Linux on i386 only. (Which limits its utility compared to gcc, and means we can't use it to build any Debian packages). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code
Am 2006-08-18 08:10:27, schrieb John Goerzen: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > > > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti: > > > > * Package name: openwatcom > > > > Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, > > > > portable code > > > > > > What does it mean for a compiler to produce portable code? > > > > It produce executables for msdos, wfw311, win32, and linux. > > Erm, no. That's a cross-compiler, isn't it? Any given output isn't > portable (it will run only on one OS), but it can just target multiple > backends. Yes thats right. You have ONE IDE (Windows and Linux are identic) and you can produce on any systems Executable for other systems. Except on DOS and WfW 3.11 where you can produce only 16Bit exes. > And when you say Linux, I assume you mean Linux on i386 only. (Which Right > limits its utility compared to gcc, and means we can't use it to build > any Debian packages). YesNo! ;-9 The OpneWatcom has some extensions which do not exist in gcc but produced Linux executable are running fine on Debian systems. And then there are some C/C++ programs which can not compiled with OpenWatcom. I have create some and packed it up as Debian package. Generaly it is its own system. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder
On 2006-08-17 04:53:36, Matthias Julius wrote: You could run autoconf from within rules and have configure be created during build. Doh, why didn't I come up with that idea:-) This is of-course the must generic solution. Thanks. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- Use the fundamental control flow constructs. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher) pgppkq3W18SnE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems with security updates
--- "Mgr. Peter Tuharsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I just encountered another crash upon saving .sxw > Lucky that I don't use OpenOffice.org daily... > > Peter You should send a bug report to the BTS. Is there any point in publishing every bug in this list? BTW, What's the real purpose of using sentences like "Lucky that I don't use OpenOffice.org daily"? It doesn't seem to add any value to your complaint and it just gives a bad impression of your mail. Miry __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libslang2 breaks jed
Hello Alastair, Alastair McKinstry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jörg Sommer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've two problems with libslang2. The first is, the package libslang2 >> includes a patch that changes the behaviour of a function. > I apologize for this; I'd lost track of this particular bug (busy doing > RL) and > forgot to upload. Will do so today. Thank you. >> And the second problem is, the dependency version for libslang2 calcuated >> by dh_shlibdeps is always 2.0.1-1 although the installed version is >> newer. Why? How can I change this? There were bug fixes in libslang2 >> since 2.0.1-1. I need a newer version than this. >> >> > You should just be able to do libslang2 (>= 2.0.6-3) in jed Where? In the control file? The I get two entries of libslang2. > to force dependencies on a late version. Nevertheless, as the behaviour > of libslang has changed with the above change, I'll change the slib > dependencies. How you do this and how can you control the version that is picked out in a different package? Bye, Jörg. -- A red sign on the door of a physics professor: 'If this sign is blue, you're going too fast.' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#383645: ITP: nta -- network traffic analyzer, generate static html reports from /proc/net/dev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luca Bigliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nta Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : C. McCohy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://nta.kyberdigi.cz/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description : network traffic analyzer, generate static html reports from /proc/net/dev NTA is a perl script intended to run under cron that generates static html reports of traffic passed through network interfaces. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remove cdrtools
I demand that Russ Allbery may or may not have written... > Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> And, for example, all of a sudden (autoconf 2.5, I think) every/many >> (newly generated or regenerated) configure script starting checking for >> C++ compilers, Fortran compilers, etc. etc. etc. even for pure C projects. > This is a libtool bug. I'm using the following workaround for gxine (due to the browser plugin): m4_undefine([AC_PROG_CXX]) m4_defun([AC_PROG_CXX],[]) m4_undefine([AC_PROG_F77]) m4_defun([AC_PROG_F77],[]) before invoking any A[CM]*LIBTOOL*. -- | Darren Salt| linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | Toon | RISC OS, Linux | youmustbejoking,demon,co,uk | Northumberland | Army | + Burn less waste. Use less packaging. Waste less. USE FEWER RESOURCES. I'd like to, but I have to answer all of my "occupant" letters. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remove cdrtools
On 17-Aug-06, 23:33 (CDT), Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Steve Greenland] > > By "autoconf related problems" I mean things like it suddenly > > deciding it's running a cross compiler, or that stdlib.h is > > missing. A lot of this kind of stuff could be improved by simply > > SHOWING ME THE FSCKING ERROR MESSAGES, rather than just checking the > > return code and guessing. > > Too bad autoconf doesn't keep a log of everything configure does.[1] > >[1] In case you missed it, it's called 'config.log'. Amazingly enough, I knew about this. >From an apache2 config.log, just 'cause it's the first one I found: configure:2533: checking whether gcc accepts -g configure:2565: checking how to run the C preprocessor configure:2966: checking for rm configure:3003: checking for mawk configure:3044: checking for a BSD compatible install configure:3097: checking whether ln -s works configure:3126: checking for ranlib configure:3192: checking for AIX configure:3216: checking for POSIXized ISC configure:3238: checking for minix/config.h configure:3291: checking for ANSI C header files configure:3409: checking for string.h configure:3409: checking for limits.h configure:3409: checking for unistd.h configure:3409: checking for sys/socket.h configure:3409: checking for pwd.h configure:3409: checking for grp.h No sign of what it actually did, no sign of whether the answer was yes or no. Yes, there is some stuff in there. But not always enough. Sometimes it spits out what the compile command was, and the code used, and sometimes it doesn't. Hmmm, why is it checking for "string.h" and "limits.h" after it has already checked for "ANSI C header files"? Well, this has devolved into a "Yes it is"/"No it isn't" kind of argument, and maybe that's all it can be: I don't like the autotools, because of my particular experiences with them, and others do, because of their particular experiences. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Status of inetd for etch
Am Donnerstag 17 August 2006 22:57 schrieb Otavio Salvador: > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The suggestion to use "nodaemon" as default for exim4 when only handling > > local mail will probably be rejected? > > I guess you meant nullmailer. No. I meant the setting in /etc/default/exim4 HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti: > > > * Package name: openwatcom > > > Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, > > > portable code > > You should check the list archives. Others have proposed to package openwatcom, but there are license issues that prevent it from being in debian, even in non-free. Cheers, Daniel -- GnuPG Key Fingerprint 86 F5 81 A5 D4 2E 1F 1C http://gnupg.org And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way early, now I have the rest of the afternoon to sniff fragrant tea-roses or strangle cute bunnies or something. -- Michael Devore signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Question about different kernel versions included on Etch
Hi all, I need to deploy several xen servers under Debia nEtch next week, and I have one doubt. Which is the difference between these kernels: linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-686 and linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686? What does it means -vserver suffix?? Can I install third party kernel modules to these kernel like as I can do with "normal" kernels?? Many thanks. P.D: sorry for the cross posting. -- CL Martinez carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using long long and printf("%m") in debian
Hi list, I have a package which relies on support for long long and using gcc does not give problems. The same goes for printf support of %m. What various me is that these features are not supported in ISO C90. My question is if this is problem in Debian and if so should I make some checking in configure.ac and provide work-arounds in config.h? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- printk("you lose buddy boy...\n"); linux-2.6.6/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c pgp315E3bWyNz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
pe, 2006-08-18 kello 23:25 +0200, Michael Rasmussen kirjoitti: > I have a package which relies on support for long long and using gcc > does not give problems. The same goes for printf support of %m. What > various me is that these features are not supported in ISO C90. My > question is if this is problem in Debian and if so should I make some > checking in configure.ac and provide work-arounds in config.h? C90 has been obsoleted by C99. The C implementation we have, consisting of gcc and glibc, support long long and %m (the latter being a GNU extension, even, it seems). Anyway, the target platform for packages in Debian is Debian; you don't need to provide portability fixes for non-Debian platforms. It may be nice to do so, if you wish to help upstream, but for Debian, it is not necessary. We've got enough to do, we don't need to worry about other systems, too. -- The difference between appealing and appaling is very small. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
On 2006-08-18 23:36:50, Lars Wirzenius wrote: C90 has been obsoleted by C99. The C implementation we have, consisting of gcc and glibc, support long long and %m (the latter being a GNU extension, even, it seems). So from what your a saying it would be allowed to add -std=c99 to gcc options? It would be nice since I will avoid these warnings using option -pedantic including warning against // before comments:-) -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- The Public is merely a multiplied "me." -- Mark Twain pgpJz1gOqglz4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
Am Freitag 18 August 2006 23:25 schrieb Michael Rasmussen: > I have a package which relies on support for long long and using gcc > does not give problems. The same goes for printf support of %m. No, %m is, according to printf(2) manpage: m (Glibc extension.) Print output of strerror(errno). No argument is required. So why isn't printf("%s\n",strerror(errno)); used instead of printf("%m\n"); ? Not like a problem in Debian GNU/* but you should tell upstream about questionable coding style and portability. > What > various me is that these features are not supported in ISO C90. My > question is if this is problem in Debian and if so should I make some > checking in configure.ac and provide work-arounds in config.h? Either it compiles in Debian or it doesn't. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
On 2006-08-18 23:48:02, Hendrik Sattler wrote: So why isn't printf("%s\n",strerror(errno)); used instead of printf("%m\n"); ? Not like a problem in Debian GNU/* but you should tell upstream about questionable coding style and portability. I agree with you on this issue - I personally prefer to apply to the standard specifications, so this will be change in source. Upstream is no problem since upstream is me - I have taken over an abandon application. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- If you can read this, you're too close. pgpKfc4MmWGnK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
pe, 2006-08-18 kello 23:44 +0200, Michael Rasmussen kirjoitti: > So from what your a saying it would be allowed to add -std=c99 to gcc > options? It would be nice since I will avoid these warnings using > option -pedantic including warning against // before comments:-) Unless -std=c99 doesn't work on one of the Debian archs, certainly. -- You need fewer comments, if you choose your names carefully. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with security updates
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 04:16:47PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > You should send a bug report to the BTS. No, he shouldn't. There is already an open bug report for this issue. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
On 2006-08-19 00:25:38, Lars Wirzenius wrote: Unless -std=c99 doesn't work on one of the Debian archs, certainly. Great. Now added, and a nice warning free compilation as a result:-) Is there any written documentation on debian.org for support of c99 in the archs supported by debian? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- It is often the case that the man who can't tell a lie thinks he is the best judge of one. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" pgpVO5uSvlSaY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#381599: ITP (RFC): python-debian -- python modules to work with Debian-related data formats
* Adeodato Simó [Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:05:33 +0200]: > also create a mailing list somewhere http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-python-debian-discuss -- Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es Debian Developer adeodato at debian.org Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. -- John Maynard Keynes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 12:52:17AM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Is there any written documentation on debian.org for support of c99 in > the archs supported by debian? Well, even the gcc-4.2 documentation still has the sentence "GCC has incomplete support for this [C99] standard version", so IMHO the formal answer is "no Debian arch has full C99 support with the default compiler". On the other hand, most of the useful features of C99 seem to be supported in current gcc versions, so the real-life answer is more like "you can assume C99 support on all archs". Gabor -- - MTA SZTAKI Computer and Automation Research Institute Hungarian Academy of Sciences - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian
On 2006-08-19 02:47:55, Gabor Gombas wrote: in current gcc versions, so the real-life answer is more like "you can assume C99 support on all archs". Nice, thanks. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://keyserver.veridis.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- Debian Hint #25: If you would like to thank a maintainer for handling an issue, check out reportbug --kudos. pgpRIs34y7riZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#383735: ITP: renpy -- framework for developing visual-novel type games
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: renpy Version : 5.5.4 Upstream Author : PyTom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.bishoujo.us/renpy/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python, C Description : framework for developing visual-novel type games Ren'Py is a programming language and runtime, intended to ease the creation of visual-novel type games. It contains features that make it easy to display thoughts, dialogue, and menus; to display images to the user; to write game logic; and to support the saving and loading of games. Ren'Py tries to be like an executable script, allowing you to get a working game without much more effort than is required to type the game script into the computer. Ren'Py is implemented on top of python, and that python heritage shows through in many places. Many Ren'Py statements allow python expressions to be used, and there are also Ren'Py statements that allow for the execution of arbitrary python code. Many of the less-used features of Ren'Py are exposed to the user by way of python. By only requiring use of the simplest features of python, it's hoped that Ren'Py will be usable by all game authors. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-2-686 Locale: LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381568: ITP: med-fichier -- Library to exchange meshed data
Hi, On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 06:36:54AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > but some kind of strange feeling continues if I hear this name (and > > the translation of it). It's just misleading. > > Er, just because you have a "strange feeling" doesn't mean the name is > misleading. > > "Med" is pretty ambiguous. _I_ certainly don't have any immediate > reaction that it contains "medical software," and I don't think it's a > generally used abbreviation for medical in the wider population -- Not that I live in USA... In USA, when an university student says "pre-med" , that kids is trying to go to medical school. It is certainly recognised as one short form for medical. But quick look up in google gives you "med" will lead you to things not only for www.med.stanford.edu but club med (resort club name: "med" implicitly means Mediterranean) . So it can be many other thigss too. (But you find mostly medical related words there) 3 letter acronyms tend to crash each other so much. Considering this being somewhat specialised purpose, I should say avoiding name crash was prudent thing to do. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware packaging
Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:03:31 +0200, Bernd Schubert > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Ubuntu already has vmware kernel module packages > > Yes, but adapting them to Debian seems to be nontrivial. I have not > yet been able to get them build on Debian. Actually I didn't have much problems using the Ubuntu directory, though I have to admit that it was overly complex. You may find a cleaned up version here: http://www.pci.uni-heidelberg.de/tc/usr/bernd/downloads/vmware-modules/ Just tell me, if there's a problem with it. Cheers, Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]