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Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?
Am Freitag 15 September 2006 22:52 schrieb Florian Weimer: > aptitude > automatically installs packages recommended by new packages). This can be turned off either via the GUI, via entry in the config file or even from command line with -R. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?
* Hendrik Sattler: > Am Freitag 15 September 2006 17:27 schrieb Michelle Konzack: >> If I update 600 Sarge systems to Etch, they would currently install >> discover as a depends. > > No, it is only a recommends: Which means it will be automatically installed if you follow the documented upgrade procedure (which involves aptitude, and aptitude automatically installs packages recommended by new packages). Or am I missing something? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?
Am Freitag 15 September 2006 17:27 schrieb Michelle Konzack: > If I update 600 Sarge systems to Etch, they would currently install > discover as a depends. No, it is only a recommends: Depends: xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-video-all | xserver-xorg-video, xserver-xorg-input-all | xserver-xorg-input, debconf, xkb-data | xkb-data-legacy, xbase-clients Pre-Depends: x11-common (>= 7.0.0-0ubuntu3) Recommends: laptop-detect, xresprobe, mdetect, discover1 | discover Thus, you can install xorg without installing discover. Do you always install with all recommends? That will pull in lots of useless stuff... HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up pbuilder or sbuild like experimental buildds
Hi, > Then I thought I might have forgotten APT::Default-Release, and with > APT::Default-Release set to "unstable", I could pin experimental higher > than 500, 700 for example, and it wouldn't upgrade the packages > automatically, however it still doesn't work. > > These are the scores of the package I'm interested in: > > bee# apt-cache policy libglib2.0-dev > libglib2.0-dev: > Installed: 2.10.3-3 > Candidate: 2.10.3-3 > Version table: > 2.12.0-1 0 > 600 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages > *** 2.10.3-3 0 > 990 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > I checked the code of pbuilder-satisfydepends, and I see it tries all > versions of "apt-cache show" output to see whether one of them would be > enough, but I see no place where it would request a particular version. Yup, that's not supported in current pbuilder-satisfydepends codebase. You're welcome to submit a patch, however. regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED],netfort.gr.jp} Debian Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (proposed) Mass bug fi ling for debcon f "abuse" by using low|medium priority debconf notes?
> This note appears to warn the user that he has to restart applications, > and only when the script is *sure* that there are applications to > restart. I think it is harmless, but given that it will never appear to > someone doing the default install, it is also useless now. Maybe it's > worth removing. Well, that could be a good case for using high priority. After all, in your description, the occurrence of the note is rare, but when it is shown you actually give it a high importance. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?
Am 2006-09-15 16:01:03, schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > Am Freitag 15 September 2006 12:30 schrieb Michelle Konzack: > > Since X.org requires discover > > Huh? Did I miss something? X.org runs fine without discover installed. > Actually, uninstalling discover is the first thing I do after an installation > of the base system. Xorg use discover for the autodetection of the Graphiccard Now for 2 days I think, I have read on that they are working on it. (removing of discover and using the Xorg own detection tool... If I update 600 Sarge systems to Etch, they would currently install discover as a depends. And then I am in trouble since on the machines I have recently installed (Clean Sarge) discover had detect nonexisting Hardware and loaded over 100 modules for nothing (and conflicting). Effectivly we need to load between 15 and 20 modules. The dist-upgrade Woody=>Sarge had not the problem. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?
Am Freitag 15 September 2006 12:30 schrieb Michelle Konzack: > Since X.org requires discover Huh? Did I miss something? X.org runs fine without discover installed. Actually, uninstalling discover is the first thing I do after an installation of the base system. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: transitioning config files between two packages
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you're right that this code unconditionally uses the user's version of > the conffile when moving it, instead of allowing the conffile question to > happen. > > The way to get the conffile prompt for a user-modified file is Someone should correct this in the wiki. I wanted to do this, but won't have time to start yet an other Debian work. TIA, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)
Bug#387628: ITP: libdatetime-format-mysql-perl -- Parse and format MySQL dates and times
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libdatetime-format-mysql-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : David Rolsky * URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/DateTime/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description : Parse and format MySQL dates and times DateTime::Format::Builder creates DateTime parsers. Many string formats of dates and times are simple and just require a basic regular expression to extract the relevant information. Builder provides a simple way to do this without writing reams of structural code. . Builder provides a number of methods, most of which you'll never need, or at least rarely need. They're provided more for exposing of the module's innards to any subclasses, or for when you need to do something slightly beyond what I expected. - -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17.200609021509 Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFCrFrOzKYnQDzz+QRAurbAJ94CaP87iZTcpc9nxrIEV27idIOogCg+yMj 8JjWbvaxf4QjRt+fydBthVg= =qiqP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#387629: ITP: libdatetime-format-builder-perl -- Create DateTime parser classes and objects
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libdatetime-format-builder-perl Version : 0.7807 Upstream Author : Kellan Elliott-McCrea * URL : http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/DateTime/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description : Create DateTime parser classes and objects DateTime::Format::Builder creates DateTime parsers. Many string formats of dates and times are simple and just require a basic regular expression to extract the relevant information. Builder provides a simple way to do this without writing reams of structural code. . Builder provides a number of methods, most of which you'll never need, or at least rarely need. They're provided more for exposing of the module's innards to any subclasses, or for when you need to do something slightly beyond what I expected. - -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17.200609021509 Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFCrHROzKYnQDzz+QRAq4eAJ9DTYsv3QadEctSEwxzxvHP/IBPwwCgtJTT LSWKarETkFd1SB4bEezUE1o= =cF6b -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forking source code for puting into Debian?
In the last 8 Month I have send 6 E-Mails an 5 Web-Requests (last Web-Request yesterday). He does not respond. :-( If you mean, that he is alive, I take the Sources, rename it and continue to add more value (pgsql, moving /etc/swhoisd.conf to /var/lib/swhoisd/..., using /etc/swhoisd.conf as reguler config) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?
Am 2006-09-11 22:08:02, schrieb Joseph Smidt: > I know I am in for an argument, but I think it is a good > question. I'm sure many of you have read Mark's blog: > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56. It says 76% of Debian > users run unstable and probably a fair fraction of the rest run testing. Not possibel, since I have only two machines with Sid, two with Etch and now over 160 with Sarge. > Isn't it a cause of stress trying to cram for the freeze? I do not think so. > Haven't we seen emails about how we are behind the RC goals for > Etch which causes frustration? All the questions: is this or that going > in Etch, why not? (I have been resposible for some of these) Like to run a Testing/Unstable server public? - Apache, php5, courier... No Thanks! > I think we all really love running unstable. It is very fun Unstable is good for development and nothing more. I use Debian since 03/1999 and with Sid I had in the 7 1/2 years at least 40 total fallouts after upgrading... I (and probably many others) must earn money with it and a fallout of on day can cost your Enterprise. > because it is exciting and sometimes unpredictible. Debian, in my You are sick! Debian GNU/Linux is an Operating System and NOT A GADGET from Redmond. > 1. Those who maintain Debian love unstable. It is the OS that offers the I am Developer (French Army) and I do not like Unsatable in any kind! It is my job to develop software on Unstable and then do testing on Unstable, Testing and Stable. All other is brain damaged and humbug! > 2. Testing would be a better distro. The time and effort that goes > into Freezing, maintaining Stable and Oldstable, could be pulled into Since X.org requires discover it is uninstallable on many machines of my customers (I t loads tonns of modules they never need and I am not able to compile over 600 different Kernels and I do not know, how to blacklist the Whole Kernel-Module-Tree at once). I hope this will be solved soon... > making testing a better distro for those who want new software, without > the risk of running Unstable. Those who enjoy trying to live on the > bleeding edge, who don't want to bleed to death. For such Harakiri are other Distributions based on Debian better. > 3. The freeze seems to cause more stress then happiness. ??? > 4. Let's face it, it does both Debian and Desktop users who want a > constantly updating, "Easy as Windows to use", stable distro a favor to And what about the majority of Debian Users running several 100.000 Servers worldwide. (I have 160 own, then they are arround 1800 Servers at the French Army, several 1000 at Police Nationale, ...) > send them to Ubuntu. Debian will stop getting harassed how Ubuntu's > stable is so much nicer for users then Debian's. On the other, it does Ubuntu has another goal as Debian. Do not compare apples with pears. > them a favor to go where life is made easier for them. (I am not saying > Ubuntu stable is better then Debian's Stable, just the type of users who Ubuntu Stable is Debian Unstable And Ubuntu does not fit anything I need. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (proposed) Mass bug filing for debconf "abuse" by using low|medium priority debconf notes?
Le jeudi 14 septembre 2006 à 19:41 +0200, Christian Perrier a écrit : > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > gtk2-engines-spherecrystal -- config:22 > gtk2-engines/restart_gtk_apps_for_svg This note appears to warn the user that he has to restart applications, and only when the script is *sure* that there are applications to restart. I think it is harmless, but given that it will never appear to someone doing the default install, it is also useless now. Maybe it's worth removing. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom
Bug#387612: RFP: python-debtags -- Access Debtags information from python
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-debtags Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debtags/python * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Access Debtags information from python Python module to access Debtags information. The package also provide some tools and a wxpython-based prototype for a Debian package smart search interface. I'm looking for someone to package svn://svn.debian.org/debtags/python for me: it's simple enough python stuff (one Debian.py and a few runnable scripts, but they use set() and so they require at least python 2.4), but I don't want to learn the python policy just for it. Thanks, Enrico -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-1-686 Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#387596: RFA: root-portal -- Monitors the system and displays the results on the desktop
Package: wnpp Hi, I no longer have time to maintain root-portal so I'm asking if anybody wants to maintain it. One of the packages it depends on, libzvt is orphaned so it probably requires a bit of work to port root-portal to use vte instead. If nobody picks it up, I'll ask for removal in a bit. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
