Bug#410162: ITP: schafkopf -- a popular Bavarian card game

2007-02-08 Thread Sebastian Harl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: schafkopf
  Upstream Author : Dominik Seichter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://schafkopf.berlios.de/
* License : GPL
  Description : a popular Bavarian card game

This is a KDE version of the Schafkopf game (a.k.a. Sheepshead in parts of the
USA). It has an easy to use GUI, a custom Bavarian Card Deck, an advanced AI,
a network mode and much more...

The long description is extracted from the homepage so far. I will probably be
improved before upload.


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Re: Bug#409563: ITP: thinkfinger -- library and utility for the SGS Thomson Microelectronics fingerprint reader

2007-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland

Luca Capello wrote:

ATM I don't really see any reason to create a separate package just
for tf-tool, because libthinkfinger + tf-tool (binary and manpage)
should generate a package around less than 50K in size.  In case new
tools will be added, we can split the package.

Is a strong reason against this?
Can I reverse the question and ask why *not* a separate binary package? 
Is it just to the additional difficulty with initial packaging?



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Re: Bug#410162: ITP: schafkopf -- a popular Bavarian card game

2007-02-08 Thread Frank S. Thomas
On Thursday 08 February 2007, Sebastian Harl wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * Package name: schafkopf
>   Upstream Author : Dominik Seichter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://schafkopf.berlios.de/
> * License : GPL
>   Description : a popular Bavarian card game
>
> This is a KDE version of the Schafkopf game (a.k.a. Sheepshead in parts of
> the USA). It has an easy to use GUI, a custom Bavarian Card Deck, an
> advanced AI, a network mode and much more...
>
> The long description is extracted from the homepage so far. I will probably
> be improved before upload.

Hi Sebastian!

I've been packaging SchafKopf since version 0.5 but I never got round to 
filling an ITP and maintaining it for Debian. Maybe my package is helpful as 
starting point for yours:
http://frank.thomas-alfeld.de/download/debian/schafkopf/

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Re: Bug#409563: ITP: thinkfinger -- library and utility for the SGS Thomson Microelectronics fingerprint reader

2007-02-08 Thread Luca Capello
Hello!

Please keep d-d in the cc: header.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:28:33 +0100, Marcus Better wrote:
>> libpam-thinkfinger (depends on libthinkfinger0)
>> libthinkfinger0
>> libthinkfinger-dev
>> thinkfinger (depends on libpam-thinkfinger)
>
> (What is the thinkfinger package for, if the tool is in the library
> package?)

Joshua and I are working together in the package, but I'm a bit busy
until the end of the week, thus we haven't finished yet the planning.
Please be patient.

> I really think the binary should not go in the library package, see
[...]
> But I don't have much experience with library packaging. Why not ask
> debian-mentors?

I think d-d is a better place than d-mentors in this specific case.
Anyway, it seems that what I was proposing was really a bad thing.

> About the short description: Perhaps the manufacturer can be dropped
> entirely.  Most users don't know or care about the manufacturer, but
> they know they have a Thinkpad:
>
> "thinkfinger -- driver for the fingerprint reader found on some
> Thinkpad laptops"

No, this fingerprint reader is present in some ThinkPad, but not only
ThinkPad [1].  What's really specific here is the manufacturer, as
it's what you can find in /proc/bus/usb/devices [2].

Now it's just a question of patience ;-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

Footnotes: 
[1] it was discussed upstream if changing the name would have been
indeed necessary, but we ended up liking this name and not so
biased about ThinkPad ;-)
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=409563;msg=53;archive=yes


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Re: Bug#409563: ITP: thinkfinger -- library and utility for the SGS Thomson Microelectronics fingerprint reader

2007-02-08 Thread Luca Capello
Hello!

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:38:42 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Please do not include it in the lib package, it's a pain afterwards
> when a new version with a different soname is introduced and
> disallows parallel installation of those.

With my non-yet-skilled-library packager hat on, I don't see why one
should want to install an old binary version with the new library
one, as both are coming from the same source, thus the same version
number.

> (This will also be a problem for multi-arch).

I should admit that I don't know anything about multi-arch, but I
think I got your point.

So, once for all, tf-tool will be in thinkfinger-tools :-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: Bug#409563: ITP: thinkfinger -- library and utility for the SGS Thomson Microelectronics fingerprint reader

2007-02-08 Thread Luca Capello
Hello!

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:38:08 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> Luca Capello wrote:
>> ATM I don't really see any reason to create a separate package just
>> for tf-tool, because libthinkfinger + tf-tool (binary and manpage)
>> should generate a package around less than 50K in size.  In case
>> new tools will be added, we can split the package.
>>
>> Is a strong reason against this?
>
> Can I reverse the question and ask why *not* a separate binary
> package? Is it just to the additional difficulty with initial
> packaging?

FWIW, there's on difficulty in packagin ThinkFinger.

I was wondering if having two packages with only one or two files [1]
was worth it, because in this case we have 4 times [2] the same
changelog.gz, changelog.Debian.gz, copyright and README.

As I already said, however, there're going to be two separated
packages.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

Footnotes: 
[1] one in libthinkfinger0, two in thinkfinger-tools (binary and manpage)
[2] libthinkfinger0, libthinfinger-dev, libpam-thinkfinger,
thinfinger-tools 


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Re: dselect memory use

2007-02-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:04:14AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Given the dramatic increase in popularity of virtual machine technology (with 
> Xen being supported in Etch) it seems likely that a reasonable number of 
> people will want to run VMs with small amounts of memory.  For example a P3 
> desktop machine can not have more than 512M of RAM installed, this gives a 

Beside the point I know, but I had P-III machines with more RAM than
that installed in the past. 768Mb at least.

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dselect memory use

2007-02-08 Thread Russell Coker
Back when 16M of RAM was considered a lot (~1996) dselect ran quite nicely on 
such hardware.  Now it seems that dselect is unusable on 32M even though hard 
drives used for swap are much faster now than they used to be.

Given the dramatic increase in popularity of virtual machine technology (with 
Xen being supported in Etch) it seems likely that a reasonable number of 
people will want to run VMs with small amounts of memory.  For example a P3 
desktop machine can not have more than 512M of RAM installed, this gives a 
maximum of 6 domU's if each domU requires 64M of RAM.  While if 32M of RAM 
was usable then there could be 12 domU's on the same hardware.

Is it possible to reduce the memory use of dselect?

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Re: dselect memory use

2007-02-08 Thread Nicolas François
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:04:14AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to reduce the memory use of dselect?

There are some patches by Michel Lespinasse on:
http://bugs.debian.org/395140

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Re: Upcoming debian meetings

2007-02-08 Thread Wookey
On 2007-02-08 16:52 +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> If you know of other meetings, locations and/or sponsors that
> would be interested in hosting meetings, please let me know!

Some of us are at the Free Software World conference 3.0 in Badajoz,
(Speaking about the Debian Extremadura workmeetings) and the politicos
here have just commited to continue the series of Debian meetings
which ran here in 2006 (translations, d-i, emdebian, q-a, skolelinux)

I'm not sure exactly when, where, or what form this will take, but you
should definately talk to them about how best to take that forward. 

I suggest best initial contact is Cesar Gomex Martin:
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Re: Bug#409563: ITP: thinkfinger -- library and utility for the SGS Thomson Microelectronics fingerprint reader

2007-02-08 Thread Luca Capello
Hello!

This is for bug readers and d-d's information.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:24:55 +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
> * Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-08 12:04]:
>
>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:38:42 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
>> > Please do not include it in the lib package, it's a pain afterwards
>> > when a new version with a different soname is introduced and
>> > disallows parallel installation of those.
>> 
>> With my non-yet-skilled-library packager hat on, I don't see why one
>> should want to install an old binary version with the new library
>> one, as both are coming from the same source, thus the same version
>> number.
>
> I am not sure I understand your rebuttal above,

I was mostly focusing on:

- libthinkfinger0 is installed with tf-tool v0

- libhtinkfinger1 comes out and it contains tf-tool v1

Upgrading to libthinkfinger1 necessarily means that tf-tool v1 needs
to be upgraded as well (because they come from the same source and
version).

> but I think Guillem was referring to a scenario similar to the
> following:
>
> Package bar has Depends: libfoo0.  Let us say that the developers of
> libfoo release a new version with the SOVERSION bumped.  In Debian,
> the package will be called, say, libfoo1.  New packages, like
> e.g. baz, will depend on libfoo1.  Now, if bar is a legacy program
> and does not compile against libfoo1 (since backward
> incompatibilites may have been introduced), then it has to keep its
> dependency on libfoo0.

OK, now reading again Guillem's reply I clearly see the problem.
Mostly, I didn't see any other use for the fingerprint reader than
authenticating someone.  However, from [1] I can see that there're
already fingerprint projects other than authentication, e.g. a SANE
backend.

> If, by an error in design, libfoo1 and libfoo0 conflict with each
> other (e.g. by having both a binary /usr/bin/foo-tool), then it will
> be impossible to have both bar and baz installed in the system.
> That is the pain Guillem was referring to.

Full ACK, I agree that we need separate packages.

Thank to both for the explanation!

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

Footnotes: 
[1] http://wiki.debian.org/FingerForce


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Bug#410220: ITP: wxmacmolplt -- The MacMolPlt molecular visualization program

2007-02-08 Thread Brett Bode
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Brett Bode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: wxmacmolplt
  Version : 6.3.0
  Upstream Author : Brett Bode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/MacMolPlt/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : The MacMolPlt molecular visualization program

 MacMolPlt is designed to display the input and output of
 the GAMESS quantum chemistry package. It produces animations
 and/or publication quality output from a variety of input file
 formats.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-3-686
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)


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Re: Upcoming debian meetings

2007-02-08 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Wookey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070208 17:48]:
> On 2007-02-08 16:52 +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> > If you know of other meetings, locations and/or sponsors that
> > would be interested in hosting meetings, please let me know!
> 
> Some of us are at the Free Software World conference 3.0 in Badajoz,
> (Speaking about the Debian Extremadura workmeetings) and the politicos
> here have just commited to continue the series of Debian meetings
> which ran here in 2006 (translations, d-i, emdebian, q-a, skolelinux)
> 
> I'm not sure exactly when, where, or what form this will take, but you
> should definately talk to them about how best to take that forward. 
> 
> I suggest best initial contact is Cesar Gomex Martin:

yes, very cool! thanks for the update.


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ITP: libauthen-krb5-simple-perl -- Authenticate a user/password using Kerberose 5

2007-02-08 Thread Xavier Oswald
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Xavier Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: libauthen-krb5-simple-perl
  Version : 0.32
  Upstream Author : Damien S. Stuart, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : 
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/D/DS/DSTUART/Authen-Krb5-Simple-0.32.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Description : Authenticate a user/password using Kerberose 5

The Authen::Krb5::Simple module provides a means to authenticate a
user/password using Kerberose 5.  Simply use this module and call its
authenticate function with a username (or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and a password.

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ITP: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl -- Simple Kerberos authentication

2007-02-08 Thread Xavier Oswald
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Xavier Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: libauthen-simple-kerberos-perl
  Version : 0.1 
  Upstream Author : Christian Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : 
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/C/CH/CHANSEN/Authen-Simple-Kerberos-0.1.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Description : Simple Kerberos authentication

This package allow to use Kerberos authentication methods.

It uses the libauthen-simple-perl framework.


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Re: Upcoming debian meetings

2007-02-08 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:25:32PM +, Wookey wrote:
> 
> I suggest best initial contact is Cesar Gomex Martin:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

gomex-> gomez :)

(in both surname and email address)

Ana


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Re: Upcoming debian meetings

2007-02-08 Thread Wookey
On 2007-02-08 20:19 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:25:32PM +, Wookey wrote:
> > 
> > I suggest best initial contact is Cesar Gomex Martin:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> 
> gomex-> gomez :)
> 
> (in both surname and email address)

Indeed - thank you. I have no idea how I managed to get it wrong twice.

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Re: Upgrade Experiences (27 Sarges -> Etch, and counting)

2007-02-08 Thread Vincent Danjean
Maarten Verwijs a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I took the plunge and upgraded about half of the Lab here to Etch. 
> This is about 27 machines to date, catering almost the same amount of
> users.

A few days ago, I also upgraded two servers from sarge to etch.
Basically, all has been fine. I just note a few things to take care for
the other servers not yet upgraded :
- be sure that a 2.6 kernel is installed (servers were still in 2.4)
  before typing 'reboot' ;-) : "apt-get dist-upgrade" did not get
  a linux-2.6 kernel package.
- take care of partition name : the servers had SATA hd. This means
  /dev/hdX with 2.4 kernel and /dev/sdX with 2.6 kernel. I fall into
  the trap for the first server upgrade. I add to boot with
  init=/bin/bash and correct /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst
- the second server (nfs server) has a RAID SCSI hd. The initrd load
  the SATA driver and the RAID driver in no order. So my disks switch
  between /dev/sda? and /dev/sdb? once out of two.
  To solve this, I used label in /etc/fstab, /etc/grub/menu.lst and
  I set fsid in /etc/exports
All other things upgrade without any problem (nis client, autofs, samba,
...)

> Thanks for all the hard work! Debian is still the one and only
> distribution for me. It Just Works. Thanks for your efforts.

Same for me.

  Best regards,
Vincent


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ITP memlockd

2007-02-08 Thread Russell Coker
memlockd - daemon to lock files into RAM

When a system starts paging excessively it may be impossible for the sysadmin 
to login for the purpose of killing the runaway processes (sometimes the 
login program times out due to thrashing).  Memlockd allows important system 
files (such as /bin/login, /bin/getty, and the admin shell) to be locked in 
memory so that there will be no delay in accessing executable pages.  In my 
tests this can decrease the time required for the administrator to login on a 
thrashing system by a factor of more than 3.

GPL, I wrote it.

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Re: Debian in Sanger (Re: update on binary upload restrictions)

2007-02-08 Thread Roger Leigh
Paul Cager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Tim Cutts wrote:
>> What I'd actually like is some sort of non-root packaging system so that
>> users could build software with decent dependency checking for their
>> shared software infrastructure.   Can dpkg be cajoled into doing that?
>
> Could you use a schroot instance to do that?

You can if you combine it with sbuild (specifically for Debian
packaging, though).  However, it's still a bit risky, because there
are ways the user could abuse their access to the chroot in order to
subvert the system (e.g. via the debian/rules binary target or in the
postinst of a package pulled in as a build-dependency).  Worse, the
current design allows the sbuild user unrestricted root access to the
chroot.  If you don't use schroot, sbuild *requires* unrestricted sudo
access to the host system!

I do have plans (post-etch) to eliminate the user access to the chroot
via sudo or schroot, so that sbuild should become safe for untrusted
users.  Once I have got my thoughts organised, I'll post them to
buildd-tools-devel in the next week.


Regards,
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Re: ITP memlockd

2007-02-08 Thread Brian May
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Russell> memlockd - daemon to lock files into RAM When a system

Can I assume there is meant to be a full stop after RAM? It reads very
differently otherwise...

Russell> starts paging excessively it may be impossible for the
Russell> sysadmin to login for the purpose of killing the runaway
Russell> processes (sometimes the login program times out due to
Russell> thrashing).  Memlockd allows important system files (such
Russell> as /bin/login, /bin/getty, and the admin shell) to be
Russell> locked in memory so that there will be no delay in
Russell> accessing executable pages.  In my tests this can
Russell> decrease the time required for the administrator to login
Russell> on a thrashing system by a factor of more than 3.

How much memory typically needs to be locked for this to be
beneficial?

(I guess this would depend on what PAM and NSS modules you use...)
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Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced

2007-02-08 Thread Theodore Tso
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:50:33PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:39:24AM +, Enrico Zini wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > the feature as in the subject is nice and makes me feel safe, but
> > sometimes it hits on the laptop, when booting on batteries, with people
> > watching.
> 
> There actually is a feature in e2fsck to double the amount of mounts
> before an fsck is done if you're running on batteries; so unless you
> boot from batteries all the time, this shouldn't happen. See #205177 and
> #242136.
> 
> You do need a mounted /proc at that time, though, which may be the
> reason it's not working for you.

A mounted /proc and if ACPI has been built using modules, the ACPI
battery module needs to be installed, since that's how we tell whether
we are running on the AC mains or battery

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nice logo

2007-02-08 Thread katarina
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Work-needing packages report for Feb 9, 2007

2007-02-08 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 351 (new: 0)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 85 (new: 1)
Total number of packages requested help for: 38 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



No new packages have been orphaned, but a total of 351 packages are
orphaned.  See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned
for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   cyrus2courier (#409876), offered 3 days ago
 Installations reported by Popcon: 11

84 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

   aboot (#315592), requested 595 days ago
 Description: Alpha bootloader: Looking for co-maintainers
 Reverse Depends: aboot aboot-cross dfsbuild ltsp-client
 Installations reported by Popcon: 60

   apt-build (#365427), requested 285 days ago
 Description: Need new developer(s)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 590

   apt-cacher (#403584), requested 52 days ago
 Description: caching proxy system for Debian package and source
   files
 Installations reported by Popcon: 253

   apt-show-versions (#382026), requested 184 days ago
 Description: lists available package versions with distribution
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2206

   athcool (#278442), requested 835 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 252

   audacity (#397166), requested 95 days ago
 Description: looking for co-maintainer
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2604

   cdw (#398252), requested 88 days ago
 Description: Tool for burning CD's - console version
 Reverse Depends: cdw gcdw
 Installations reported by Popcon: 235

   cvs (#354176), requested 350 days ago
 Description: Concurrent Versions System
 Reverse Depends: bonsai crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage
   cvs2cl cvs2html cvschangelogbuilder cvsconnect cvsd cvsdelta (17
   more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 11425

   docbook (#358522), requested 323 days ago
 Description: standard SGML representation system for technical
   documents
 Reverse Depends: alcovebook-sgml docbook-dsssl docbook-to-man
   sgmltools-lite
 Installations reported by Popcon: 3750

   docbook-xml (#358520), requested 323 days ago
 Description: standard XML documentation system, for software and
   systems
 Reverse Depends: dblatex docbook-dsssl docbook-ebnf
   docbook-html-forms docbook-jrefentry docbook-mathml docbook-simple
   docbook-slides docbook-website docbook-xsl-stylesheets-ko (6 more
   omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 18334

   dpkg (#282283), requested 810 days ago
 Description: dselect: a user tool to manage Debian packages
 Reverse Depends: alien alsa-source apt-build apt-cross apt-src
   backuppc build-essential clamsmtp crosshurd cvs-autoreleasedeb (83
   more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 27826

   gpsdrive (#406522), requested 28 days ago
 Description: Car navigation system
 Installations reported by Popcon: 282

   grub (#248397), requested 1004 days ago
 Description: GRand Unified Bootloader
 Reverse Depends: dfsbuild grub-splashimages replicator
 Installations reported by Popcon: 23907

   gtkpod (#319711), requested 564 days ago
 Description: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod
 Installations reported by Popcon: 501

   ispell-et (#391105), requested 127 days ago
 Description: Estonian dictionary for Aspell/Ispell/MySpell
 Installations reported by Popcon: 24

   lighttpd (#401575), requested 66 days ago
 Description: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint
 Reverse Depends: lighttpd-mod-cml lighttpd-mod-magnet
   lighttpd-mod-mysql-vhost lighttpd-mod-trigger-b4-dl
   lighttpd-mod-webdav
 Installations reported by Popcon: 391

   loop-aes-modules (#385615), requested 161 days ago
 Description: loop-AES modules
 Reverse Depends: loop-aes-2.6-486 loop-aes-2.6-686
   loop-aes-2.6-686-bigmem loop-aes-2.6-alpha-generic
   loop-aes-2.6-alpha-legacy loop-aes-2.6-alpha-smp loop-aes-2.6-amd64
   loop-aes-2.6-footbridge loop-aes-2.6-iop32x loop-aes-2.6-itanium (24
   more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 33

   loop-aes-utils (#385614), requested 161 days ago
 Description: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems
 Reverse Depends: lo