Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:36:48PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>   Is this field meant to point at the Debian repository or the
> upstream repository?  (I assume the Debian one)

Both Vcs-Browser and Vcs-* are meant to contain the current development
copy of the repository used to build the official Debian package. The
intended use is for either a user who sees a bug tagged pending in the
BTS and want to get the patched code or, similarly, for a DD willing to
make an NMU and commit the code where appropriate (if possible).

See the bug I've pointed to in this thread for the complete doc.

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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:33:24PM +0100, Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> The packages listed below use the 'XS-Vcs-Browse' field, which has
> been obsoleted by the new, official 'Vcs-Browser' field.  Please
> consider upgrading your control files to use that.  Also note that
> the proper capitalization is 'Vcs-Browser', not 'VCS-Browser'.
> Thanks.

  Is this field meant to point at the Debian repository or the
upstream repository?  (I assume the Debian one)

  Daniel


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Re: what's up with sparc?

2007-10-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:19:04PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 11:08:07PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Thanks. OK so now a few of my packages have been built after a long
> > wait, but 2.5 days later still not uploaded apparently. Are they just
> > waiting for manual processing of some kind?
> 
> The .changes needs to get signed manually, as for every other upload.

What's the typical frequency of that? Still no action on sparc.

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Bug#448540: ITP: html5-validator -- WHATWG HTML5 markup validator

2007-10-29 Thread Kai Hendry
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Kai Hendry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: html5-validator
  Version : 2.1
  Upstream Author : Henri Sivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://validator.nu/
* License : GPL3 compatible
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : WHATWG HTML5 markup validator

 * RELAX NG and Schematron component for (non-SGML) HTML5 parsing and
   validation
 * No text/html XHTML http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml
 * Takes directions from the Web Hypertext Application Technology
   Working Group http://www.whatwg.org/
 * Supporting HTML5 
   http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/
 * Background from "An HTML5 Conformance Checker" thesis
   http://hsivonen.iki.fi/thesis/

For users who want a guaranteed level of service or want privacy.

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Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:40:15PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
> That only helps people who look now at it and it should be 
> (I guess it will be) at least documented in the developers reference.

See #391023, it has been there since a few days after I announced the
support of Vcs-* fields in the PTS.

Still there.

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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:23:17PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> So, should we use XS-Vcs-* or Vcs-* [1] in debian/control now?
> Is there a documentation/wiki/etc. of valid fields somewhere?

There have been documentation for XS-Vcs-* since ages in the BTS as an
addendum for the devref (#391023), with patch. The documentation should
be ok, except that you can forget the trailing "XS-" prefix since now
the fields are officially supported by dpkg.

I don't know where now this stuff should be documented (and I've lost a
bit of enthusiasm at documenting ...), but feel free to take the current
patch text and divert it where appropriate.

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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:33:24PM +0100, Romain Francoise wrote:
> The packages listed below use the 'XS-Vcs-Browse' field, which has
> been obsoleted by the new, official 'Vcs-Browser' field.  Please
> consider upgrading your control files to use that.  Also note that
> the proper capitalization is 'Vcs-Browser', not 'VCS-Browser'.
> Thanks.

There is really no such thing as "proper" capitalization, but that is
what dpkg will normalise it to, yeah.

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Bug#448532: ITP: phpmyvisites -- free web analytics

2007-10-29 Thread Frederic Daniel Luc Lehobey
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Frederic Daniel Luc Lehobey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: phpmyvisites
  Version : 2.3~b4 (2.3 beta4)
  Upstream Author : phpMyVisites team
* URL : http://www.phpmyvisites.us/
* License : GPL-any
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : free web analytics

 phpMyVisites is a free and powerful open source (GNU/GPL) software for websites
 statistics and audience measurements. 
 phpMyVisites gives a lot of information on websites visitors, visited pages,
 software/hardware utilization, etc... The GUI Interface is fun and practical.
 The installation is entirely automated and very simple.
 Statistics are very complete and use many clear graphics to present data. The
 web analytics software is translated in more than 30 languages!

For the beta4 release (expected to be the 2.3 final release), I will
target only experimental and move to unstable once 2.3 is really out.

I put below a temptative copyright file following the new proposal
http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat

Best regards,
Frédéric Lehobey

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Copyright: © 2002-2006 phpMyVisites team
License: GPL-any

Files: libs/artichow/*
Licence: PD

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Copyright: © 2003 by Bitstream, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Bitstream Vera is
  a trademark of Bitstream, Inc.
Licence: other
   Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
   of the fonts accompanying this license ("Fonts") and associated
   documentation files (the "Font Software"), to reproduce and distribute the
   Font Software, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, merge,
   publish, distribute, and/or sell copies of the Font Software, and to permit
   persons to whom the Font Software is furnished to do so, subject to the
   following conditions:
 .
   The above copyright and trademark notices and this permission notice shall
   be included in all copies of one or more of the Font Software typefaces.
 .
   The Font Software may be modified, altered, or added to, and in particular
   the designs of glyphs or characters in the Fonts may be modified and
   additional glyphs or characters may be added to the Fonts, only if the fonts
   are renamed to names not containing either the words "Bitstream" or the word
   "Vera".
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   This License becomes null and void to the extent applicable to Fonts or Font
   Software that has been modified and is distributed under the "Bitstream
   Vera" names.
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   The Font Software may be sold as part of a larger software package but no
   copy of one or more of the Font Software typefaces may be sold by itself.
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   THE FONT SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS
   OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
   FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT OF COPYRIGHT, PATENT,
   TRADEMARK, OR OTHER RIGHT. IN NO EVENT SHALL BITSTREAM OR THE GNOME
   FOUNDATION BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, INCLUDING
   ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES,
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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:40:15PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
> * Cyril Brulebois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-29 21:31]:
> > Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29/10/2007):
> > > So, should we use XS-Vcs-* or Vcs-* [1] in debian/control now?
> > 
> > Vcs-*.
> > 
> > > Is there a documentation/wiki/etc. of valid fields somewhere?
> > 
> > There's dpkg changelog in ???etc.???.
> 
> That only helps people who look now at it and it should be 
> (I guess it will be) at least documented in the developers reference.
> Btw, looking at Vcs-* the changelog only says:
> * Add Vcs-Browser and Vcs-Git fields to debian/control.

There is the deb-control(5) page, but that only applies to binary
packages. If someone would create a equivalent for source packages...
(It is somewhere on my dpkg TODO list)

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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Cyril,
* Cyril Brulebois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-29 21:45]:
> Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29/10/2007):
> > That only helps people who look now at it and it should be (I guess it
> > will be) at least documented in the developers reference.
> 
> I know, just pointing to the existing bits of documentation I know of.
> 
> > Btw, looking at Vcs-* the changelog only says:
> > * Add Vcs-Browser and Vcs-Git fields to debian/control.
> 
> You can also look at the previous entry, which contains others.

And this was exactly the reason why I said the changelog 
does not really help ;)
Kind regards
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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29/10/2007):
> That only helps people who look now at it and it should be (I guess it
> will be) at least documented in the developers reference.

I know, just pointing to the existing bits of documentation I know of.

> Btw, looking at Vcs-* the changelog only says:
> * Add Vcs-Browser and Vcs-Git fields to debian/control.

You can also look at the previous entry, which contains others.

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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Cyril,
* Cyril Brulebois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-29 21:31]:
> Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29/10/2007):
> > So, should we use XS-Vcs-* or Vcs-* [1] in debian/control now?
> 
> Vcs-*.
> 
> > Is there a documentation/wiki/etc. of valid fields somewhere?
> 
> There's dpkg changelog in ???etc.???.

That only helps people who look now at it and it should be 
(I guess it will be) at least documented in the developers reference.
Btw, looking at Vcs-* the changelog only says:
* Add Vcs-Browser and Vcs-Git fields to debian/control.

Kind regards
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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29/10/2007):
> So, should we use XS-Vcs-* or Vcs-* [1] in debian/control now?

Vcs-*.

> Is there a documentation/wiki/etc. of valid fields somewhere?

There's dpkg changelog in “etc.”.

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Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Romain Francoise schrieb:
> Hi all,
> 
> The packages listed below use the 'XS-Vcs-Browse' field, which has
> been obsoleted by the new, official 'Vcs-Browser' field.  Please
> consider upgrading your control files to use that.  Also note that
> the proper capitalization is 'Vcs-Browser', not 'VCS-Browser'.
> Thanks.
> 

So, should we use XS-Vcs-* or Vcs-* [1] in debian/control now?
Is there a documentation/wiki/etc. of valid fields somewhere?

Michael

[1] * being Vcs-Browser, Vcs-Arch, Vcs-Bzr, Vcs-Cvs, Vcs-Darcs,
Vcs-Git, Vcs-Hg, Vcs-Mtn or Vcs-Svn
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Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Romain Francoise
Hi all,

The packages listed below use the 'XS-Vcs-Browse' field, which has
been obsoleted by the new, official 'Vcs-Browser' field.  Please
consider upgrading your control files to use that.  Also note that
the proper capitalization is 'Vcs-Browser', not 'VCS-Browser'.
Thanks.


Gregory Colpart (evolix) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   ingo1 (U)
   kronolith2 (U)
   mnemo2 (U)
   turba2 (U)

Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   arch-perl
   archway
   archzoom
   axp

Daniel Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   live-helper (U)
   live-initramfs (U)
   virtualbox-ose (U)

Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   commons-daemon (U)
   emma-coverage (U)
   ganymed-ssh2 (U)
   input-utils
   kernel-patch-exec-shield
   libcommons-modeler-java (U)
   libjaxen-java (U)
   libxalan2-java (U)
   mysql-connector-java (U)
   rhino (U)
   stylebook (U)
   tomcat5.5 (U)

Paul Cager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   rhino (U)

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   mailman (U)

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   aiccu

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Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   commons-daemon (U)
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martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Chris Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   cakephp
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Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   ingo1 (U)
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Re: parsing/using *.dsc *.changes, *.deb etc., from Python

2007-10-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:53:33PM +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote:
> Awesome. Maybe you could help for example the maintainer of
> git-hgbuildpackage to use python-debian, so that all the code is on
> one place.

No problem, but I won't ping him in advance via mediation :), but feel
free to tell him that he is very welcome to post questions either
directly to me or to the python-debian maintainers team.

More generally, feel free to point to us people who have alternative
implementations of the code available in python-debian. We'll be very
happy to merge features available elsewhere and help porting stuff to
python-debian.

> BTW, I tried your example
> /usr/share/doc/python-debian/examples/packages/grep-maintainer and it
> doesn't work:

No wonder, the example is based on some old API. You can indeed notice
that that example is not part of python-debian. Please consider only the
examples you can currently find under
/usr/share/doc/python-debian/examples/debfile/.

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Re: parsing/using *.dsc *.changes, *.deb etc., from Python

2007-10-29 Thread Ondrej Certik
> See if http://ftp-master.debian.org/bzr/debian-archive-kit/ helps you.

This looks good, thanks!

> python-debian aims to be a bundle of Python libraries to deal with
> Debian-specific file formats. As such I would consider it to be the
> official tool (disclaimer: but I'm one of the maintainers, so my
> judgment is biased for sure!).
>
> Note that for some of its jobs, python-debian at times uses external
> libraries as, for example, python-apt.
>
> > I am just putting it here for future reference if someone tries to
> > unify these to spare him some time investigating the options.
>
> python-debian aims at unifying stuff, maybe it's just not so widespread
> (yet).

Awesome. Maybe you could help for example the maintainer of
git-hgbuildpackage to use python-debian, so that all the code is on
one place.

BTW, I tried your example
/usr/share/doc/python-debian/examples/packages/grep-maintainer and it
doesn't work:

$ ./grep-maintainer "stefano"
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./grep-maintainer", line 26, in ?
if maint_RE.search(pkg['maintainer']):
TypeError: list indices must be integers


so please apply this patch to get it work:

diff -r bb09c7963ded grep-maintainer
--- a/grep-maintainer   Mon Oct 29 12:42:59 2007 +0100
+++ b/grep-maintainer   Mon Oct 29 12:48:08 2007 +0100
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ except:

 packages = PackageFile('/var/lib/dpkg/status')
 for pkg in packages:
-if maint_RE.search(pkg['maintainer']):
+pkg = dict(pkg)
+if "maintainer" in pkg and maint_RE.search(pkg['maintainer']):
 print pkg['package']


Now it works:

$ ./grep-maintainer "stefano"
mc


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Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-29 Thread Philip Charles
On Monday 29 October 2007 23:42, MJ Ray wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 09:44 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti:
> > > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that
> > > restriction.
> >
> > If I have understood things correctly, in England (and the rest of
> > the UK?) the copyright is owned by the crown and therefore it is the
> > crown that sets the license. [...]
> > But don't trust me on this, I am merely speculating.
>
> AFAICT, that's incorrect: this restriction is from the letters patent,
> not the copyright (which has long since expired).  Wikipedia seems to
> have been corrected on this since I last looked.
>
> Also, it's also not clear whether the patent is actively enforced and
> it's well-known as not enforced against most printing outside the UK
> (the KJV is frequently printed in the US, for example, isn't it?) even
> by Englishmen.
>
> So, does debian really need to remove packages of such importance
> because of a trivially-avoidable not-obviously-enforced patent?

Queen Elizabeth II authorised William Collins of Glasgow to print my copy 
of the Scotish* version of the Authorised Vesion of the Old and New 
Testaments, under the same Letters Patent granted by Queen Victoria in 
1839. I do not think that Her Majesty and her advisers would be worried 
about electronic copies, they could well take a different stand on 
printed versions.
*While the version for the Church of Scotland is the most common and is 
the version under discussion, it is a shortened version of the original.
 
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Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-29 Thread MJ Ray
Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ti, 2007-10-23 kello 09:44 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti:
> > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that restriction.
>
> If I have understood things correctly, in England (and the rest of the
> UK?) the copyright is owned by the crown and therefore it is the crown
> that sets the license. [...]
> But don't trust me on this, I am merely speculating.

AFAICT, that's incorrect: this restriction is from the letters patent,
not the copyright (which has long since expired).  Wikipedia seems to
have been corrected on this since I last looked.

Also, it's also not clear whether the patent is actively enforced and
it's well-known as not enforced against most printing outside the UK
(the KJV is frequently printed in the US, for example, isn't it?) even
by Englishmen.

So, does debian really need to remove packages of such importance
because of a trivially-avoidable not-obviously-enforced patent?

Surprised,
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Re: parsing/using *.dsc *.changes, *.deb etc., from Python

2007-10-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:18:27AM +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote:
> 2) http://www.bononia.it/~zack/blog/posts/2007/07/python_debfile.html
> 3) http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/python-debian

Those 2 are actually one. python-debfile was a proposed addition to
python-debian and has since long been integrated into the latter.

python-debian aims to be a bundle of Python libraries to deal with
Debian-specific file formats. As such I would consider it to be the
official tool (disclaimer: but I'm one of the maintainers, so my
judgment is biased for sure!).

Note that for some of its jobs, python-debian at times uses external
libraries as, for example, python-apt.

> I am just putting it here for future reference if someone tries to
> unify these to spare him some time investigating the options.

python-debian aims at unifying stuff, maybe it's just not so widespread
(yet).

Cheers.

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Re: parsing/using *.dsc *.changes, *.deb etc., from Python

2007-10-29 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, 

On Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 01:18:27 +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> when writing scripts to manage Debian repository, many people
> including me use Python. Is there some "official" way of doing it? It
> seems to me everyone is writing his own parsers. I know about of at
> least 5 different projects doing it:

See if http://ftp-master.debian.org/bzr/debian-archive-kit/ helps you. 

Greetings
Martin

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