The 'git' Debian package in squeeze and possible mass bug filing

2010-04-07 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hello,

Gerrit Pape wrote:

> I'm about to provide a new git binary package from the git-core (the
> distributed revision control system) source, so that 'apt-get install
> git' installs the git content tracker in squeeze.

A new version 1.7.0.4-2~exp0 of git has been uploaded to experimental,
with the source and main binary package renamed to git.  There is a
note in the NEWS.Debian.gz to help with the transition.  Please try it
out and let us know if you find any problems.

If the git-core package is removed, it is no longer available to
satisfy dependencies.  For most packages, this is no problem, since
git Provides: git-core.  However, a Provides: does not satisfy a
versioned dependency.

The affected packages are listed below.  For futureproofing and easy
backporting, I believe they should use

  Depends: git (>= 1:1.7) | git-core (>= whatever)

gnuit never had an epoch, so such a dependency would be safe.

Now that there is a package available to test with, I would like to
file bugs for the affected packages suggesting this change.  I suggest
an RC severity since it would be nice to have the name change in
squeeze.  I am therefore Cc-ing the release team for their input.

A list of affected packages follows.  Thoughts welcome.

 - Jonathan

Andrea Corradi 
   giggle --- Depends, Build-Depends: git-core (>= 1.5.6.3)

Debian Python Modules Team 
   python-git (U) --- Depends: git-core (>= 1.5.3.7)

Yann Dirson 
   stgit --- Depends: git-core (>= 1:1.5.3)

Vincent Fourmond 
   gitstats --- Depends: git-core (>= 1:1.5.2.4)

Guido Günther 
   git-buildpackage --- Depends: git-core (>= 1:1.5.0.1-1)

Wartan Hachaturow 
   qgit --- Depends: git-core (>= 1.3.0)

Sebastian Harl 
   tig --- Depends: git-core (>= 1.5.4)

Joey Hess 
   etckeeper --- Depends: git-core (>= 1:1.5.4)
   ikiwiki --- Recommends: git-core (>= 1:1.5.0)

Julien Lavergne 
   moap --- Suggests: git-core (>= 1:1.6.0)

Marc-Andre Lureau 
   moap (U) --- Suggests: git-core (>= 1:1.6.0)

Python Applications Packaging Team 
   moap (U) --- Suggests: git-core (>= 1:1.6.0)

Josh Triplett 
   ikiwiki (U) --- Recommends: git-core (>= 1:1.5.0)

Iulian Udrea 
   guilt --- Depends: git-core (>= 1.4)

Daniel Watkins 
   python-git --- Depends: git-core (>= 1.5.3.7)


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Re: Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Luigi Gangitano  wrote:

> Since drupal6 translation need to be manually loaded in the database via a 
> web interface once the db is configured and populated by the installation 
> script (another web script)

Wow. Just wow. WTF.

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Bug#576881: ITP: fsmap -- Graphical description in a concept map of the free software world

2010-04-07 Thread h
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: René Mérou 
Owner: René Mérou 


* Package name: fsmap
  Version : 3
  Upstream Author : René Mérou 
* URL : http://es.gnu.org/~reneme/fsmap/
* License : GFDL
  Description : Graphical description in a concept map of the free software 
world
 fsmap, Free Software Concept Map, is a visual document to understand free 
 software in a view. It expresses the its meaning by drawing relations with
 source code, distribution, free software freedoms, human values, developers,
 and other relaterd terms.



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Bug#576860: ITP: drupal6-mod-i18n -- i18n module for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov 


* Package name: drupal6-mod-i18n
  Version : 1.3
  Upstream Author : Jose Antonio Reyero del Prado
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/i18n
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : i18n module for Drupal 6

This is a collection of modules to extend Drupal core multilingual 
capabilities and be able to build real life multilingual sites.



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Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-07 Thread Teodor MICU
Hi,

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Bernhard R. Link  wrote:
> I personally would prefer ipv6 to still be a module so it can be
> blacklisted or some other way to disable it, but having this option on
> by default at least avoids many annoiances in ipv4 world.

I've always disabled IPv6 on all hosts (blacklist or alias to
/bin/true on Debian <= 5.0) and on squeeze/6.0 it works from the boot
loader:
| r...@host:~# grep ipv6 /etc/default/grub
| GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1 panic=20 vga=791"

Of course that after this setup you'll see the failure to set
bindv6only=1 at every boot as this key doesn't exist. Having IPv6
enabled might be a good thing for those who have this capability from
their ISP, but I'm disabling it for several reasons the first reason
being the ISP not supporting IPv6.

Cheers


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Bug#576849: ITP: drupal6-mod-inline -- inline module for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov 


* Package name: drupal6-mod-inline
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Daniel F. Kudwien
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/inline
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : inline module for Drupal 6

Inline module allows users to display uploaded files and images inline, 
i.e. place links to files into a content using a simple 
[inline:filename.jpg] tag. The effect is a link to the file or the display 
of an image, depending on the file type.

Inline allows users to place an uploaded image or a file attachment 
anywhere in the content. During creation of a content, a user can simply 
enter the number or filename of the attachment that should be displayed 
inline. After submitting the content, the number is automatically converted 
to the corresponding filename.



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Bug#576846: ITP: drupal6-mod-masquerade -- masquerade module for Drupal6

2010-04-07 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov 


* Package name: drupal6-mod-masquerade
  Version : 1.3
  Upstream Author : Gurpartap Singh
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/masquerade
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : masquerade module for Drupal6

The masquerade module is designed as a tool for site designers and site 
administrators. It allows a user with the right permissions to switch 
users. While masquerading, a field is set on the $user object, and a 
menu item appears allowing the user to switch back. Watchdog entries 
are made any time a user masquerades or stops masquerading.



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Re: Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Al Nikolov
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 19:38:37 Luigi Gangitano wrote:
> Since drupal6 translation need to be manually loaded in the database via a
> web interface once the db is configured and populated by the installation
> script (another web script), I don't see the benefit to package them in any
> way, neither in the drupal6 package, nor in a separate package.

I see the benefit of such kind of bootstrapping package since this process:

- installing the package
- adding the language
- removing the package (optional)

is obviously simpler and cleaner than this:

- manually unpacking the tarball
- adding the language
- removing isn't possible

and definitely simpler than manually adding a lot of .po via WUI.

That's why packages have been invented for, haven't they?


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Bug#576833: ITP: drupal6-thm-arthemia -- Arthemia theme for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov 


* Package name: drupal6-thm-arthemia
  Version : 1.1
  Upstream Author : Naheem Zaffar
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/arthemia
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : Arthemia theme for Drupal 6

A port and modification of the Arthemia Free Wordpress theme converted
to Drupal.



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Bug#576834: ITP: libpath-dispatcher-declarative-perl -- dispatcher module with syntactic sugar

2010-04-07 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp
Owner: gregor herrmann 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: libpath-dispatcher-declarative-perl
  Version : 0.01
  Upstream Author : Shawn M Moore 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Path-Dispatcher-Declarative/
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : dispatcher module with syntactic sugar


libpath-dispatcher-declarative-perl is a "spin-off" of libpath-dispatcher-perl,
cf. #576639

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Re: Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Luigi Gangitano
Il giorno 07/apr/2010, alle ore 16.10, Al Nikolov ha scritto:
> On Wednesday 07 April 2010 18:03:06 Cyril Brulebois wrote:
>> Can't it just be merged into the drupal package?
> 
> Let's see the drupal6 mainainer's opinion.

Since drupal6 translation need to be manually loaded in the database via a web 
interface once the db is configured and populated by the installation script 
(another web script), I don't see the benefit to package them in any way, 
neither in the drupal6 package, nor in a separate package.

Browser used for administration will probably be running on another machine 
99.99% of times. You're not installing X on your web-server, are you? :-)

Yes, I know about lynx. :-)

Regards,

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Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services back this weekend

2010-04-07 Thread Brian Nelson
Luca Filipozzi  writes:

> ries is located at Brown University.  Brown provides free hosting,
> bandwidth and remote intelligent hands.  They have provided exemplary
> support but it doesn't include (nor should we have an expectation that
> it includes) 4-hour response.
>
> ries is covered by a next business day post-warranty support agreement
> with the vendor.
>
> There were two contributing factors to time between problem occurrence
> and problem resolution: (1) back and forth with the vendor in an attempt
> to diagnose the true fault (initial diagnosis was faulty DIMMs;
> subsequent diagnosis was faulty mainboard) and (2) once diagnosed,
> shipping delays (parts ordered morning of 30th, but arrived on 2nd).

The entire state of Rhode Island being underwater on March 30-31 due to
some historic flooding probably had a little something to do with
the shipping delays...

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Re: Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Al Nikolov
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 18:03:06 Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Can't it just be merged into the drupal package?

Let's see the drupal6 mainainer's opinion.


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Re: Xen not booting in Unstable

2010-04-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 10:36:41PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> What is the best way of tracking down Xen fail to boot bugs?

By providing all information the relevant packages (xen and linux)
requests and reporting to the maintainers of this packages instead of
the general public.

However the symtoms looks like it may have been fixed in -11.

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Re: Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Al Nikolov  (07/04/2010):
> * Package name: drupal6-l10n-ru
> Drupal uses English by default, but may be translated to many other
> languages.
> 
> This is Russian translation.

Can't it just be merged into the drupal package?

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Re: Xen not booting in Unstable

2010-04-07 Thread Ian Campbell
pkg-xen-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org is probably a better bet for Xen
issues (CCd) than xen-devel.

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:36 +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> I have tried to run three systems with the new Xen kernel from Unstable and 
> the xen-hypervisor-3.4-i386 from Testing.  One of them is working reasonably 
> well.  The other two just reboot shortly after loading the Xen kernel (long 
> before it gets anywhere near mounting the root filesystem).
> 
> Broken system A displays something briefly on screen before rebooting.  
> Broken 
> system B just goes black and reboots.  System A is using the old version of 
> GRUB as is the working Xen server.  System B is using the new version of GRUB 
> (it's a fresh install of Testing) with the "multiboot" option to load the Xen 
> kernel.
> 
> So System B's problem could be due to GRUB but System A is happily running 
> the 
> Lenny version of Xen and GRUB seems to be working fine.
> 
> What is the best way of tracking down Xen fail to boot bugs?

A serial console log would be very useful if you have the hardware
capability. Otherwise adding "noreboot" to the hypervisor command line
(xenhopt in /boot/grub/menu.lst or by hand) will allow you to catch the
error displayed on system A which may help in that case. It's possible
there will be something on system B which is too quick to see as well or
at least see how far you get before the crash.

2.6.32-11 was uploaded yesterday which and included a refresh of the Xen
domain 0 kernel patchset with a bunch of fixes. Did you pick that up or
were you still on -10 at the time?

If you manage to get any logs it is worth including xen-devel as well,
there have been various bug shaken down recently on the list, partially
as a result of the inclusion in unstable I think.

Ian.

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Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

2010-04-07 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov 


* Package name: drupal6-l10n-ru
  Version : 1.3
  Upstream Author : Drupal Russian Language Team
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/translations
* License : GPL
  Description : Russian translation for Drupal 6

Drupal uses English by default, but may be translated to many other
languages.

This is Russian translation.



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Xen not booting in Unstable

2010-04-07 Thread Russell Coker
I have tried to run three systems with the new Xen kernel from Unstable and 
the xen-hypervisor-3.4-i386 from Testing.  One of them is working reasonably 
well.  The other two just reboot shortly after loading the Xen kernel (long 
before it gets anywhere near mounting the root filesystem).

Broken system A displays something briefly on screen before rebooting.  Broken 
system B just goes black and reboots.  System A is using the old version of 
GRUB as is the working Xen server.  System B is using the new version of GRUB 
(it's a fresh install of Testing) with the "multiboot" option to load the Xen 
kernel.

So System B's problem could be due to GRUB but System A is happily running the 
Lenny version of Xen and GRUB seems to be working fine.

What is the best way of tracking down Xen fail to boot bugs?

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Bug#576807: ITP: libdevel-perlysense-perl -- Perl IDE backend with Emacs frontend

2010-04-07 Thread Dominique Dumont
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

--- Please fill out the fields below. ---

   Package name: libdevel-perlysense-perl
Version: 0,0183-1
Upstream Author: Johan Lindström 
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Devel-PerlySense/
License: Artistic and GPL
Description: Perl IDE backend with Emacs frontend
PerlySense is a Perl IDE backend that integrates with editor frontends, 
currently Emacs. (While no one has written a Vim frontend, PerlySense can emit 
Vim style data structures.)

Conveniently navigate and browse the code and documentation of your project 
and Perl installation. Navigate between tests and source, and between related 
files. 

Search through the project for method declarations, invocants or free text 
using Ack.

Run tests and scripts with easy navigation to errors/warnings/failing tests.

Automate common editing tasks related to source code, tests, regular 
expressions, etc.

Highlight syntax errors, warnings, Perl::Critic complaints, and Devel::Cover 
test coverage in the source while editing.

PerlySense has a plugin system for understanding custom syntax, e.g. Moose.



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Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-07 Thread Kazuo Oishi
Stanislav Maslovski  writes:
>> I think that an application which depends on net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 is
>> broken (at least as Linux application).
>
> I am not sure that there are such applications. Can you give us an
> example?

Sorry, I don't know whether such applications really exist.

I just expect that this default value change of net.ipv6.bindv6only
from 0 to 1 (introduced from netbase 4.38) would cause that.
I cannot imagine other reason to change this default value.


>> And I think that an application which depends on bindv6only=0 might have
>> a problem on portability and it might be a bug, but it should work with
>> Debian as ever.  Setting bindv6only=1 and breaking these programs,
>> including outside of Debian packages, would not be a good choice.
>
> Well, nothing forbids you from changing that option on your own
> system, if you really need it.

Yes.  But if any core applications were depend on
bindv6only=1, we can not change it's value to 0 any more.

So I wish that default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only revert to 0.

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Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-07 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 05:04:58PM +0900, Kazuo Oishi wrote:
> Vincent Danjean  writes:
> >>> Anyone, could you teach me why net.ipv6.bindv6only need to be set
> >>> to 1 globally, and why other good programs need to be changed?
> >>> I think it should revert.
> >
> > I've no strong opinion about the default value for net.ipv6.bindv6only.
> > However, I think that any application that breaks if the default value
> > is 0 or 1 is broken and a bug must be filled..
> 
> I think that an application which depends on net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 is
> broken (at least as Linux application).

I am not sure that there are such applications. Can you give us an
example?

> And I think that an application which depends on bindv6only=0 might have
> a problem on portability and it might be a bug, but it should work with
> Debian as ever.  Setting bindv6only=1 and breaking these programs,
> including outside of Debian packages, would not be a good choice.

Well, nothing forbids you from changing that option on your own
system, if you really need it.

BTW, a related question to everyone: from reading /etc/init.d./procps
I see that files in /etc/sysctl.d/ take a precedence over
/etc/sysctl.conf. Should not it be the other way around?

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Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 12:22:26AM -0700, Ludovico Cavedon wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Vincent Danjean  wrote:
> > ...and squeeze should be released with the default value that minimizes
> > the number of broken behavior

That is, whatever is consistent with the standards, ie, bindb6only=0.

> I agree.
> I remember some arguments like "bindv6only=0 is a linux specific
> option, and e.g. does not work with the freebsd kernel", which in
> principle makes sense, but if too many applications break, it means we
> are not ready for that.

bindv6only=1 is a freebsd-only bug.

It was introduced in an attempt to secure misguided cases where people
blacklist some address ranges instead of whitelisting.

> > Some people around me have been hit by this java bug. They do not read
> > d-d have they would have never found what was broken if they did not
> > talk with me. This bug is really difficult to diagnose for a simple user.
> 
> About the java-6-sun package: would it be possible to work around that
> by LD_PRELOADing a wrapper to socket/bind/setsockopt which set
> BINDv6ONLY to 0 for IP sockets?

It is not a bug to rely on the behaviour the RFCs specify, especially that
you need to do some work to work around the BSD limitation.

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Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-07 Thread Kazuo Oishi
Vincent Danjean  writes:
>>> Anyone, could you teach me why net.ipv6.bindv6only need to be set
>>> to 1 globally, and why other good programs need to be changed?
>>> I think it should revert.
>
> I've no strong opinion about the default value for net.ipv6.bindv6only.
> However, I think that any application that breaks if the default value
> is 0 or 1 is broken and a bug must be filled..

I think that an application which depends on net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 is
broken (at least as Linux application).

And I think that an application which depends on bindv6only=0 might have
a problem on portability and it might be a bug, but it should work with
Debian as ever.  Setting bindv6only=1 and breaking these programs,
including outside of Debian packages, would not be a good choice.

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Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-07 Thread Ludovico Cavedon
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Vincent Danjean  wrote:
> ...and squeeze should be released with the default value that minimizes
> the number of broken behavior (not the number of bugs because whatever
> the default value is, if the application depends on a particular default
> value, the bug exists)

I agree.
I remember some arguments like "bindv6only=0 is a linux specific
option, and e.g. does not work with the freebsd kernel", which in
principle makes sense, but if too many applications break, it means we
are not ready for that.

Btw: how many are the affected applications?

> Some people around me have been hit by this java bug. They do not read
> d-d have they would have never found what was broken if they did not
> talk with me. This bug is really difficult to diagnose for a simple user.

Yes, and even reading the d-d, it took me a while to realized the
issues I was having were caused by the change to bindv6only.

About the java-6-sun package: would it be possible to work around that
by LD_PRELOADing a wrapper to socket/bind/setsockopt which set
BINDv6ONLY to 0 for IP sockets?

Cheers,
Ludovico


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Re: Default value of net.ipv6.bindv6only should revert to 0

2010-04-07 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Vincent Danjean  [100407 08:21]:
> ...and squeeze should be released with the default value that minimizes
> the number of broken behavior (not the number of bugs because whatever
> the default value is, if the application depends on a particular default
> value, the bug exists)

I guess the question is how to count the brokeness. Just because the
setting confuses java (which given how long severe bugs caused by some
terminal ill code in java tend to live, will no change soon, so waiting
for java is not really an option) does not mean that many other programs
do nasty things without it.

I personally would prefer ipv6 to still be a module so it can be
blacklisted or some other way to disable it, but having this option on
by default at least avoids many annoiances in ipv4 world.

Hochachtungsvoll,
Bernhard R. Link


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