Re: [PATCH] netplug - Allow to specify custom script file via param '-s'

[Andrew Shadura]

Hello,

On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 22:37:01 +0100
Pali Rohár  wrote:

> Ok, here is info: Months ago I sent patch for package netplug to 
> ML. Someody wrote that I should send it to bugtracker. So I 
> posted it to [1]. I also sent that patch also to upstream 
> project, but no response. Even no response from Debian package 
> maintainer. Also bug page is without comments. Every month I send 
> email to ML to this thread, asking for state. But still nobody 
> wrote me if patch can be accepted or is definitely rejected. I 
> would like to know state and what happening and if I need to 
> provide something more... Or just Debian ignoring developers? 
> From my point of view it looks like.

That happens sometimes. I never got a response from Anthony J. Town
regarding ifupdown, while I was certain he's on-line quite often (he
did even post something here few times). At the end, I took it over
completely.

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Work-needing packages report for Nov 8, 2013

[wnpp]

The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 540 (new: 5)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 155 (new: 3)
Total number of packages requested help for: 55 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   black-box (#728868), orphaned yesterday
 Installations reported by Popcon: 129

   bzr-email (#728935), orphaned today
 Description: Notification email plugin for Bazaar
 Installations reported by Popcon: 61

   pdfshuffler (#728579), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: merge, split and re-arrange pages from PDF documents
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1388

   penguin-command (#728867), orphaned yesterday
 Installations reported by Popcon: 174

   tvtime (#728576), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: television display application
 Reverse Depends: remuco-tvtime
 Installations reported by Popcon: 822

535 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   libmikmod (#728593), offered 4 days ago
 Description: Portable sound library
 Reverse Depends: alsaplayer-common bb black-box crimson gweled
   hannah libclanapp-1.0 libmikmod2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2
   libsdl-mixer1.2-dev (9 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 24499

   mikmod (#728592), offered 4 days ago
 Description: Portable tracked music player
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1182

   scanbuttond (#728818), offered 2 days ago
 Description: Scanner button daemon
 Installations reported by Popcon: 152

152 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

   apt-xapian-index (#567955), requested 1375 days ago
 Description: maintenance tools for a Xapian index of Debian packages
 Reverse Depends: ept-cache fuss-launcher goplay packagesearch
 Installations reported by Popcon: 78330

   asymptote (#517342), requested 1714 days ago
 Description: script-based vector graphics language inspired by
   MetaPost
 Installations reported by Popcon: 3929

   athcool (#278442), requested 3299 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 50

   balsa (#642906), requested 774 days ago
 Description: An e-mail client for GNOME
 Reverse Depends: balsa-dbg
 Installations reported by Popcon: 818

   cardstories (#624100), requested 927 days ago
 Description: Find out a card using a sentence made up by another
   player
 Installations reported by Popcon: 9

   chromium-browser (#583826), requested 1257 days ago
 Description: Chromium browser
 Reverse Depends: chromium chromium-dbg chromium-l10n mozplugger
 Installations reported by Popcon: 21697

   cups (#532097), requested 1615 days ago
 Description: Common UNIX Printing System
 Reverse Depends: bluez-cups chromium cups cups-backend-bjnp
   cups-browsed cups-bsd cups-client cups-daemon cups-dbg cups-filters
   (60 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 130076

   debtags (#567954), requested 1375 days ago
 Description: Enables support for package tags
 Reverse Depends: goplay packagesearch
 Installations reported by Popcon: 2399

   fbcat (#565156), requested 1394 days ago
 Description: framebuffer grabber
 Installations reported by Popcon: 152

   freeipmi (#628062), requested 896 days ago
 Description: GNU implementation of the IPMI protocol
 Reverse Depends: freeipmi freeipmi-bmc-watchdog freeipmi-ipmidetect
   freeipmi-tools libfreeipmi-dev libfreeipmi12 libipmiconsole-dev
   libipmiconsole2 libipmidetect-dev libipmidetect0 (3 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 3919

   gnat-4.4 (#539633), requested 2032 days ago
 Description: backport bug fixes from trunk (GCC 4.5)
 Reverse Depends: ghdl gnat-4.4 libgnat-4.4 libgnat-4.4-dbg
   libgnatprj-dev libgnatprj4.4 libgnatprj4.4-dbg libgnatprj4.4-dev
   libgnatvsn-dev libgnatvsn4.4 (2 more omitted)
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1056

   gnat-gps (#496905), requested 1897 days ago
 Description: co-maintainer needed
 Reverse Depends: gnat-gps gnat-gps-dbg
 Installations reported by Popcon: 508

   gnokii (#677750), requested 509 days ago
 Description: Datasuite for mobile phone management
 Reverse Depends: gnokii gnokii-cli gnokii-smsd 

Re: New ksh/ksh93 package, half the size, ten times the features!!!!

[Thorsten Glaser]

Thorsten Glaser  mirbsd.de> writes:

> No, it isn’t – but you could build-depend on mksh, if the script
> can be run with it (haven’t tested it), possibly with a few changes

OK, I’ve tried with the following patch:

diff -Nru ksh-93v-20131010/debian/control ksh-93v-20131010/debian/control
--- ksh-93v-20131010/debian/control 2013-01-07 16:58:44.0 +0100
+++ ksh-93v-20131010/debian/control 2013-11-08 00:58:27.0 +0100
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Oliver Kiddle 
 Homepage: http://www.kornshell.com/
-Build-Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.16.1), debhelper (>= 7)
+Build-Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.16.1), debhelper (>= 7), mksh
 Standards-Version: 3.9.4
 
 Package: ksh
diff -Nru ksh-93v-20131010/debian/rules ksh-93v-20131010/debian/rules
--- ksh-93v-20131010/debian/rules   2013-11-05 01:41:56.0 +0100
+++ ksh-93v-20131010/debian/rules   2013-11-08 00:57:58.0 +0100
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
 build-arch: build-stamp
 build-indep: build-stamp
 build-stamp:
-   /usr/bin/ksh debian/buildksh93.sh build.opt.linux.i386.64bit.gcc.c99
+   mksh debian/buildksh93.sh build.opt.linux.i386.64bit.gcc.c99
touch build-stamp
 
 clean:

This scared me a bit already: “build.opt.linux.i386.64bit.gcc.c99”

Trying to build it in a clean cowbuilder environment spits out things like:

package: warning: yacc: not found -- some make actions may fail
package: warning: bison: not found -- some make actions may fail

These are more missing Build-Depends.

Then, it fails:

package: gcc -std=gnu99 -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -m64 -fPIC -lm -ldl: failed to 
compile this program:
int main(){return 0;}
In file included from :0:0:
/usr/include/stdc-predef.h:30:26: fatal error: bits/predefs.h: No such file 
or directory
 #include 
  ^

This is only natural because I’m building for i386, where -m64 is
utterly wrong.

In short, your package will not work for Debian as-is and needs,
possibly major, rework.

Sorry,
//mirabilos


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Re: [PATCH] netplug - Allow to specify custom script file via param '-s'

[gregor herrmann]

On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 22:37:01 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:

> > > Again, after month I have not got any responce.
> > > CCing everybody from this thread. What to do?
> > I'd say you got an "email problem".
> > If I were the recpient of this email I wouldn't know what you
> > were asking.
> Ok, here is info: Months ago I sent patch for package netplug to 
> ML. Someody wrote that I should send it to bugtracker. So I 
> posted it to [1]. 

Which you haven't CC'd now ...

> I also sent that patch also to upstream 
> project, but no response. Even no response from Debian package 
> maintainer. Also bug page is without comments. Every month I send 
> email to ML to this thread, asking for state. 

I totally understand your frustration, and I'm sorry that Debian at
large can be quite bad at dealing with requests like this.

But mailing debian-devel, which is a high-level meta discussion list
around Debian development in general, read by thousands of people
(and not a community of a handful people working on this or a couple
of packages) and cc'ing unrelated people won't help either ...

Ideas:
- always keep the bug in the loop
- contact the MIA team, if you think the maintainers are inactive
- prepare an NMU and ask for sponsorship on debian-mentors

(As a personal note, I'm very appreciative about your great work in
Maemo, and I'm very happy to see something from Maemo coming back to
Debian, even if it's frustrating for your right now.)

Cheers,
gregor

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Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info)

[Matthias Klose]

Am 29.10.2013 17:48, schrieb Ian Jackson:
> (Mind you, I have my doubts about a process which counts people
> promising to do work - it sets up some rather unfortunate incentives.
> I guess it's easier to judge and more prospective than a process which
> attempts to gauge whether the work has been done "well enough".)
> 
>>   As an example I remember having received several complains from
>> e.g.  the GCC maintainers in regards to the state of gcc on various
>> ports[1].  Here I would suspect a patch would be sufficient without
>> needing to actually NMU gcc to get the fix in.  There are also stuff
>> like the port concerns from DSA that attention.
> 
> Right.

that's not enough.  GCC has some primary and some secondary release
architectures.  Toolchain support for primary architectures in Debian should be
waived,  for the secondary and other architectures, Debian needs somebody who is
maintaining the relationship between Debian and upstream.  Surprisingly this is
the case for many non-release Debian architectures like kfreebsd, the Hurd,
alpha, hppa, m68k, but not for Debian release architectures like s390, sparc,
ia64 and mips*.  So we really need somebody to care about this, where the port
is considered a secondary citizen or no citizen, or we should demote a port to
the ports archive.

  Matthias


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Bug#729014: ITP: libnet-dns-cloudflare-ddns-perl -- Object orientated Dynamic DNS interface

[Peter Roberts]

Package: wnpp
Owner: Peter Roberts 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: libnet-dns-cloudflare-ddns-perl
  Version : 0.05
  Upstream Author : Peter Roberts 
* URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Net-DNS-CloudFlare-DDNS
* License : other
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Object orientated Dynamic DNS interface

Provides an object orientated interface that can be used to dynamically
update DNS records on CloudFlare.


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Re: [PATCH] netplug - Allow to specify custom script file via param '-s'

[Pali Rohár]

On Thursday 07 November 2013 22:23:42 Craig Small wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 05:20:08PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > Again, after month I have not got any responce.
> > CCing everybody from this thread. What to do?
> 
> I'd say you got an "email problem".
> If I were the recpient of this email I wouldn't know what you
> were asking. I get lots of emails and look after many
> packages. I assume you want a reply from these people.
> A simple
> "To recap, package X needs package Y to do Z, further details
> are at W" will mean more chance of a reply.  The email as
> currently sent is a bit context-free to me.
> 
>  - Craig

Ok, here is info: Months ago I sent patch for package netplug to 
ML. Someody wrote that I should send it to bugtracker. So I 
posted it to [1]. I also sent that patch also to upstream 
project, but no response. Even no response from Debian package 
maintainer. Also bug page is without comments. Every month I send 
email to ML to this thread, asking for state. But still nobody 
wrote me if patch can be accepted or is definitely rejected. I 
would like to know state and what happening and if I need to 
provide something more... Or just Debian ignoring developers? 
From my point of view it looks like.

[1] - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=702495

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Re: [PATCH] netplug - Allow to specify custom script file via param '-s'

[Craig Small]

On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 05:20:08PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> Again, after month I have not got any responce.
> CCing everybody from this thread. What to do?
I'd say you got an "email problem".
If I were the recpient of this email I wouldn't know what you were
asking. I get lots of emails and look after many packages. I assume you
want a reply from these people.
A simple
"To recap, package X needs package Y to do Z, further details are at W"
will mean more chance of a reply.  The email as currently sent is a bit
context-free to me.

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Bug#728999: RFP: beaver -- Lightweight log shippper to logstash

[David Ammouial]

Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2013-11-07
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

 Package name: Beaver
 Version : 30
 Upstream Author : José Díaz-González 
 URL : http://beaver.readthedocs.org/
 License : MIT
 Description : Lightweight log shippper to logstash

Beaver provides an lightweight method for shipping local log files to
Logstash. It does this using redis, zeromq, tcp, udp, rabbit or stdout as
the transport. This means you’ll need a redis, zeromq, tcp, udp, amqp or
stdin input somewhere down the road to get the events.

Events are sent in logstash’s json_event format.

Related issue on upstream issue tracker:
https://github.com/josegonzalez/beaver/issues/146

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Re: [PATCH] netplug - Allow to specify custom script file via param '-s'

[Pali Rohár]

On Monday 16 September 2013 11:40:00 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 16 September 2013 00:35:52 Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:15:20AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > Bump. Is there any problem?
> > 
> > Hey there Pali,
> > 
> > First of all, thank you for your hard work and persistence -
> > I admire that a great deal! Keep that up!
> > 
> > 
> > One interesting thing with Debian is that DDs can't go into
> > another maintainer's package and change something (such as a
> > new feature or upstream release) without the maintainer's
> > consent.
> > 
> > If you're able to get the maintainer of this package to sign
> > off on the patch, and ack a NMU against it, I'm sure any
> > number of us would be more than happy to sponsor the upload.
> > 
> > However, doing this is frowned upon without the coordination
> > of the current maintainer - so that's a pretty needed first
> > step!
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you so much for your work! Let's get your changes in
> > the archive! Paul
> 
> CCing Philipp Matthias Hahn, maintainer of netplug package.

Again, after month I have not got any responce.
CCing everybody from this thread. What to do?

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Re: New ksh/ksh93 package, half the size, ten times the features!!!!

[Thorsten Glaser]

Giovanni Rapagnani  ideanet.be> writes:

> - the script is executed using /usr/bin/ksh. Is it fine to have a build
> dependency on the package we are about to build? If it is, the build

No, it isn’t – but you could build-depend on mksh, if the script
can be run with it (haven’t tested it), possibly with a few changes
to make up for the slight differences between mksh and AT&T ksh.

Anyway, thanks for keeping AT&T ksh93 up to date in Debian as well,
since I often run test scripts through it when debugging mksh.

bye,
//mirabilos


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Re: prerm/postrm considered harmful in M-A: same packages

[Guillem Jover]

Hi!

On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 14:34:11 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> I noticed a problem with several packages when they were migrated to
> multiarch, and I’m afraid we have a pattern here.

This was reported on this list some time ago:

  

> Here, libfoo is a Multi-Arch: same package.
> 
> libfoo.postinst:
>  → Generate /etc/libfoo.conf
>  → Modify /etc/bar.conf to add libfoo support (think typically NSS
> modules)
> The postinst is idempotent, so applying it once per installed
> architecture is no problem.
> 
> libfoo.prerm or postrm (in remove or purge cases):
>  → Remove /etc/libfoo.conf
>  → Remove mentions to libfoo in /etc/bar.conf
> You remove the package for one architecture, and it stops working for
> the other installed architectures.
> 
> This is of course another good reasons to use triggers everywhere we
> can, but the question is: is there a way we can detect such problems
> with lintian?

dpkg 1.17.2 will setup DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE_REFCOUNT to make this
easier to handle. The aforementioned thread contains recipes on how to
do proper ref-counting with older dpkg versions.

Thanks,
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Re: Debian HA team MIA?

[Apollon Oikonomopoulos]

Hi,

On 17:22 Wed 06 Nov , Michael Meskes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was just pointed to
> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-ha-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
> and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=714210 both of which 
> bring
> up the question whether the team still exists and is actively working on the
> packages.
> 
> Do we have a MIA process for teams?
> 
> Michael
> 
> P.S.: I couldn't find anything in the archives but should I have missed an
> existing thread, please point me to it.

I was added to the alioth team today and am working on getting DRBD 8.4 
to unstable. We make heavy use of DRBD with ganeti (which I 
co-maintain), and I plan to get 8.4 uploaded soon-ish (i.e. within the 
next week if everything goes well).

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prerm/postrm considered harmful in M-A: same packages

[Josselin Mouette]

Hi,

I noticed a problem with several packages when they were migrated to
multiarch, and I’m afraid we have a pattern here.

Here, libfoo is a Multi-Arch: same package.

libfoo.postinst:
 → Generate /etc/libfoo.conf
 → Modify /etc/bar.conf to add libfoo support (think typically NSS
modules)
The postinst is idempotent, so applying it once per installed
architecture is no problem.

libfoo.prerm or postrm (in remove or purge cases):
 → Remove /etc/libfoo.conf
 → Remove mentions to libfoo in /etc/bar.conf
You remove the package for one architecture, and it stops working for
the other installed architectures.

This is of course another good reasons to use triggers everywhere we
can, but the question is: is there a way we can detect such problems
with lintian?

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Re: Proposal: switch init system to systemd or upstart

[Michael Tokarev]

25.10.2013 20:47, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
[]

#717731
upower: authentification is required for hibernating while other users are
logged in
http://bugs.debian.org/717731

#717554
systemd: authentification is required for hibernating while other users are
logged in
http://bugs.debian.org/717554

Bug#727645: polkit-kde-1: requires root password for hibernate, wrongly
reports other users are logged on
http://bugs.debian.org/727645


FWIW, this same thing happens on my desktop which is running XFCE but not
systemd.  It is annoying, and I thought it is how things are _supposed_
to be, even if I don't agree with that...  Oh well. ;)

/mjt


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