Accepted python-saharaclient 1.5.0-2 (source all) into experimental

[Thomas Goirand]

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Maintainer: Debian OpenStack 
Changed-By: Thomas Goirand 
Description:
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2.7 modul
 python-saharaclient-doc - Client library for Openstack Sahara API server - 
documentation
 python3-saharaclient - Client library for Openstack Sahara API server - Python 
3.x modul
Closes: 890856
Changes:
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Accepted ruby-redcarpet 3.4.0-4 (source) into unstable

[Balint Reczey]

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Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 

Changed-By: Balint Reczey 
Description:
 ruby-redcarpet - Fast, safe and extensible Markdown to (X)HTML parser for Ruby
Changes:
 ruby-redcarpet (3.4.0-4) unstable; urgency=medium
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   * Re-enable accidentally disabled patch to fix 32b architectures
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 20 février 2018 09:05 +0200, Arto Jantunen  :

>> Moreover, backports do not accept security patches. You can only push a
>> version in testing (or unstable). Notably, if the version in testing is
>> not easily backportable (because of new dependencies), you may wait
>> quite some time before you get a security update.
>
> Also not true. You can request an exception to this for your security
> update, but you do need to communicate about this with the backports
> team before uploading.

Also? What was not true? The Debian Backports FAQ?

The exception you mention is not documented. It is also likely to just be
rejected:
 
 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-roundcube-maintainers/2017-November/002070.html

And the backport team has been pretty clear this is not the right way to
maintain backports:

 https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2017/05/msg00059.html
-- 
Choose a data representation that makes the program simple.
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Re: CUPS GPL → Apache license change, how to proceed?

[Stuart Prescott]

Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:

> - What tools should I be using to identify which of these will be
> undistributable constructs?  Aka: how, given a list of source packages,
> can I determine which are GPL-2-only in the codepaths that link against
> CUPS?

> [CUPS-links-to] CUPS dynamically links against
> (excluding 'system libraries' such as libc, libgcc, libstdc++)
> - cups → libusb-1.0-0 (LGPL-2.1)
> - libcups2 → libavahi-client3 & libavahi-common3 (GPL-2+)
> - libcups2 → libc6 (GPL-2+)
> - libcups2 → libgnutls30 (LGPL-2.1+)
> - libcups2 → libgssapi-krb5-2 (MIT)
> - libcups2 → zlib1g (Zlib)

Having looked at python-debian's debian.copyright.Copyright module just the 
other day, I thought there might be something that could be done here. With 
77% of the packages in the rdeps list that have a readable copyright-
format/1.0 (or an older format), we can make reasonable progress.

* we can say that 3746 (70%) of the packages in the build-rdeps list have no 
*direct* problem because they are not GPLv2-only. (That is to ignore that 
they might depend on packages that are themselves in trouble with this 
licence change)

* there are 379 packages that are GPLv2-only; that doesn't mean that they 
definitely load both GPLv2-only code and libcups* into the same executable, 
but they need checking. (gplv2-only.txt attached)

* 1220 packages haven't been checked; most aren't in copyright-format/1.0 
but a few generate parse errors or have sufficiently complicated licence 
terms that this tool can't figure it out. (unknown.txt attached)

These good(ish) looking numbers at least cut down the scope of the checking 
that is required by 70%. There's still 1600ish packages that need to be 
looked at in some way.

I'm not sure what the next steps would be. Perhaps walking the dependency 
tree looking at these 1600 packages is what should happen next. We would 
likely find places where the tree can be pruned because there is no linking 
involved, merely use of a tool at build time. I'm sure we've got graph 
walking code in the archive somewhere that might help…

For those in need of amusement, code at 

https://salsa.debian.org/stuart/package-license-checker

and all relevant copyright files (current as of unstable today) from the 
packages analysed at

https://people.debian.org/~stuart/copyright.tar.xz

Happy for suggestions, merge requests etc!

cheers
Stuart

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Arto Jantunen]

Vincent Bernat  writes:
> Moreover, backports do not accept security patches. You can only push a
> version in testing (or unstable). Notably, if the version in testing is
> not easily backportable (because of new dependencies), you may wait
> quite some time before you get a security update.

Also not true. You can request an exception to this for your security
update, but you do need to communicate about this with the backports
team before uploading.

-- 
Arto Jantunen

Accepted gcc-7 7.3.0-5 (source) into unstable

[Matthias Klose]

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Accepted freetds 1.00.82-1 (source amd64 all) into unstable

[Steve Langasek]

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Version: 1.00.82-1
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Steve Langasek 
Changed-By: Steve Langasek 
Description:
 freetds-bin - FreeTDS command-line utilities
 freetds-common - configuration files for FreeTDS SQL client libraries
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 libct4 - libraries for connecting to MS SQL and Sybase SQL servers
 libsybdb5  - libraries for connecting to MS SQL and Sybase SQL servers
 tdsodbc- ODBC driver for connecting to MS SQL and Sybase SQL servers
Closes: 706388 803258 873712
Changes:
 freetds (1.00.82-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Update Vcs-* fields.
   * Fix watch file.
   * New upstream release.  Closes: #803258, LP: #1679975.
 - Fixes login when using long (> 30 char) passwords.  Closes: #706388.
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Re: A few questions about building Debian-Based Distro

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

On 20/02/2018 08:05, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Guidelines may be of help, as would
> the other pages on https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives

PS: As Pabs pointed out to me on IRC, the debian-blends list might be
more appropriate for blends (more about that on
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends)

-Jonathan

Re: A few questions about building Debian-Based Distro

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

On 19/02/2018 19:25, Project Echo wrote:
> Hey Debian Developers!

Hi! This list is for the development of Debian, please rather use a more
appropriate list, like debian-derivatives for questions regarding
derivatives, custom spins, pure blends, etc.

> I have a few questions about making a Debian-Based Distro
> 
> 1.Do you make a ISO of Debian without anything installed?, Just the base
> Operating System, I need this as I want to make my Debian-Based Distro
> 
> 2.While Rebranding Debian, What are the files I have to re brand?. Also
> will I fall under any issues if I distribute it for free? (Of course I
> will be crediting Debian and it's creators)
> 
> 3.If I did rebrand Debian, Will the Operating system have errors
> installing .Deb files?

https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Guidelines may be of help, as would
the other pages on https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives

Good luck!

-Jonathan

-- 
  ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀  Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) 
  ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Debian Developer - https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage
  ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋   https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org
  ⠈⠳⣄  Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.

Accepted s390-netdevice 0.0.63 (source) into unstable

[Christian Perrier]

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Changes:
 s390-netdevice (0.0.63) unstable; urgency=medium
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   [ Updated translations ]
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 19 février 2018 22:59 GMT, Craig Small  :

>> >> a bit like backports that are not security supported
>> >> either.
>> >
>> > this is now the 2nd mail within 24h were you claim this *wrongly*.
>> >
>> > backports are (supposed to be) getting security support. if you dont do
>> > this for your backports, you shouldnt have upload rights.
>>
>> From https://backports.debian.org/FAQ/:
>>
>> Q: Is there security support for packages from backports.debian.org?
>>
>> A: Unfortunately not. This is done on a best effort basis by the people
>> who track the package
>
>
> This looks like a language confusion. There is no security *team* support
> but there is security *package updates* by the individual maintainers.

I don't see where is the confusion. There is no security support. It's
written verbatim. This doesn't mean there is no security update, but
these updates are pushed on a best effort basis.

Moreover, backports do not accept security patches. You can only push a
version in testing (or unstable). Notably, if the version in testing is
not easily backportable (because of new dependencies), you may wait
quite some time before you get a security update.
-- 
How apt the poor are to be proud.
-- William Shakespeare, "Twelfth-Night"


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Accepted s390-dasd 0.0.58 (source) into unstable

[Christian Perrier]

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Changed-By: Christian Perrier 
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   * Tajik (tg.po) by Victor Ibragimov
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[林上智]

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[Jeremy Bicha]

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Version: 0.3.9-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team 

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Description:
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passphrases
 libvolume-key1 - Utility for manipulating storage encryption keys and 
passphrases
 python-volume-key - Python bindings for libvolume_key
 volume-key - Utility for manipulating storage encryption keys and passphrases
Closes: 888072
Changes:
 volume-key (0.3.9-2) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   [ Andreas Henriksson ]
   * Remove myself from uploaders
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 .
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[Tom Marble]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers 

Changed-By: Tom Marble 
Description:
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Closes: 887865
Changes:
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[Benjamin Kaduk]

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Maintainer: Benjamin Kaduk 
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Description:
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Closes: 716446
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted babl 0.1.44-1 (source) into unstable

[Jeremy Bicha]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers 

Changed-By: Jeremy Bicha 
Description:
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[Yaroslav Halchenko]

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Changed-By: Yaroslav Halchenko 
Description:
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 isympy3- Python3 shell for SymPy
 python-sympy - Computer Algebra System (CAS) in Python
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Closes: 890838
Changes:
 sympy (1.1.1-4) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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[Boris Pek]

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Version: 1.2.235-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Boris Pek 
Changed-By: Boris Pek 
Description:
 psi-plus-l10n - localization files for Psi+
Changes:
 psi-plus-l10n (1.2.235-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Add Debian XMPP Maintainers to Uploaders.
   * Bump debhelper version to 11~ (was 9); update debian/compat.
   * Update debian/control:
 - bump Standards-Version to 4.1.3 (was 4.1.1): no changes required
 - update Vcs-* fields: moved from GitHub to Salsa
   * Update debian/rules: delete --parallel option from dh.
   * Update years and Format URL in debian/copyright.
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Accepted chromium-browser 65.0.3325.73-1 (source) into experimental

[Michael Gilbert]

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Source: chromium-browser
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Architecture: source
Version: 65.0.3325.73-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Chromium Maintainers 

Changed-By: Michael Gilbert 
Description:
 chromium   - web browser
 chromium-common - web browser - common resources used by the chromium packages
 chromium-driver - web browser - WebDriver support
 chromium-l10n - web browser - language packs
 chromium-shell - web browser - minimal shell
 chromium-widevine - web browser - widevine content decryption support
Closes: 888387 890239
Changes:
 chromium-browser (65.0.3325.73-1) experimental; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream beta release.
   * Recommend libu2f-udev (closes: #890239).
   * Add support ffmpeg 3.5 (closes: #888387).
   * Remove icc_profiles from the upstream tarball.
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Daniel Dehennin]

Michael Meskes  writes:


[...]

> Maybe you answered your question yourself. How about we tie our
> security support to upstream's? Instead of fixing and backporting
> ourselves we promise our users that this section of the archive will
> get upstream's latest fixes even if that means the version number
> changes.
>
> This way the users would get a lot of benefits from using Debian but no
>  drawback compared to the self-installed alternative.

Hello, as a sysadmin and Ubuntu derivatives[1] at work, I remembered
having the nice surprise of some incompatible changes in MySQL some time
ago.

Backporting the fix was not possible/too complex so new upstream patch
level was integrated, modifying something around comments handling in
.sql files IIRC.

Finding the erratic problem, fixing it and distributing it was quite
“intensive”.

We monitor the -proposed repository but the change passed unseen by our
jenkins.

So please, before considering following upstream, consider what a
sysadmin needs to do to upgrade/test/deploy the configuration.

I'm dreaming the day every configuration file will be managed by
Config::Model but even this is not bullet proof ;-)

my 2¢.

Footnotes: 
[1]  around 25k servers deployed

-- 
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Accepted libblockdev 2.16-1 (source) into unstable

[Jeremy Bicha]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team 

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Description:
 gir1.2-blockdev-2.0 - libblockdev introspection data
 libblockdev-btrfs-dev - BTRFS plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-btrfs2 - BTRFS plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-crypto-dev - Crypto plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-crypto2 - Crypto plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-dev - Library for manipulating block devices - development
 libblockdev-dm-dev - Device Mapper plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-dm2 - Device Mapper plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-fs-dev - file system plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-fs2 - file system plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-kbd-dev - kernel block device plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-kbd2 - kernel block device plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-loop-dev - Loop device plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-loop2 - Loop device plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-lvm-dbus-dev - LVM DBus plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-lvm-dbus2 - LVM DBus plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-lvm-dev - LVM plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-lvm2 - LVM plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-mdraid-dev - MD RAID plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-mdraid2 - MD RAID plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-mpath-dev - Multipath plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-mpath2 - Multipath plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-part-dev - Partitioning plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-part-err-dev - Partition error utility functions for libblockdev - 
development
 libblockdev-part-err2 - Partition error utility functions for libblockdev
 libblockdev-part2 - Partitioning plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-plugins-all - All plugins for libblockdev
 libblockdev-swap-dev - Swap plugin for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-swap2 - Swap plugin for libblockdev
 libblockdev-utils-dev - Utility functions for libblockdev - development
 libblockdev-utils2 - Utility functions for libblockdev
 libblockdev2 - Library for manipulating block devices
 python3-blockdev - Python 3 gobject-introspection bindings for libblockdev
Closes: 887270
Changes:
 libblockdev (2.16-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Team upload
 .
   [ Jeremy Bicha ]
   * New upstream release
   * Add Multi-Arch: same to -dev packages, thanks multiarch hinter
   * Add symbols files
   * Update Vcs fields for migration to https://salsa.debian.org/
 .
   [ Andreas Henriksson ]
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Accepted psi-plus 1.2.235-2 (source) into unstable

[Boris Pek]

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Architecture: source
Version: 1.2.235-2
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Boris Pek 
Changed-By: Boris Pek 
Description:
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 psi-plus-common - common files for Psi+
 psi-plus-plugins - plugins for Psi+
 psi-plus-skins - skins for Psi+
 psi-plus-sounds - sound files for Psi+
 psi-plus-webkit - Qt-based XMPP/Jabber client (WebKit version)
Changes:
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 .
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[Julien Puydt]

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Source: jupyter-client
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Architecture: source all
Version: 5.2.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 

Changed-By: Julien Puydt 
Description:
 jupyter-client - Jupyter protocol client APIs (tools)
 python-jupyter-client - Jupyter protocol client APIs (Python 2)
 python-jupyter-client-doc - Jupyter protocol client APIs (documentation)
 python3-jupyter-client - Jupyter protocol client APIs (Python 3)
Changes:
 jupyter-client (5.2.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Ondřej Nový ]
   * d/control: Set Vcs-* to salsa.debian.org
   * d/copyright: Fix Format URL to correct one
 .
   [ Julien Puydt ]
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Craig Small]

On Tue, 20 Feb. 2018, 09:44 Vincent Bernat,  wrote:

>  ❦ 19 février 2018 22:33 GMT, Holger Levsen  :
>
> >> a bit like backports that are not security supported
> >> either.
> >
> > this is now the 2nd mail within 24h were you claim this *wrongly*.
> >
> > backports are (supposed to be) getting security support. if you dont do
> > this for your backports, you shouldnt have upload rights.
>
> From https://backports.debian.org/FAQ/:
>
> Q: Is there security support for packages from backports.debian.org?
>
> A: Unfortunately not. This is done on a best effort basis by the people
> who track the package


This looks like a language confusion. There is no security *team* support
but there is security *package updates* by the individual maintainers.

The individual contribution sounds optional here in the FAQ but from my
experience with backports it's strongly encouraged.

 - Craig

>
>
-- 
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Accepted x2goclient 4.1.1.1-1 (source) into unstable

[Mike Gabriel]

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 .
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[Julien Puydt]

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 19 février 2018 22:33 GMT, Holger Levsen  :

>> a bit like backports that are not security supported
>> either.
>
> this is now the 2nd mail within 24h were you claim this *wrongly*.
>
> backports are (supposed to be) getting security support. if you dont do
> this for your backports, you shouldnt have upload rights.

From https://backports.debian.org/FAQ/:

Q: Is there security support for packages from backports.debian.org?

A: Unfortunately not. This is done on a best effort basis by the people
who track the package, usually the ones who originally did upload the
package into backports. When security related bugs are fixed in Debian
unstable the backporter is permitted to upload the package from directly
there instead of having to wait until the fix hits testing. You can see
the open issues for jessie-backports in the security tracker (though
there may be false positives too, the version compare isn't perfect yet)
-- 
Many a writer seems to think he is never profound except when he can't
understand his own meaning.
-- George D. Prentice


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Accepted python-mistral-lib 0.4.0-1 (source all) into experimental

[Thomas Goirand]

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 python-mistral-lib-doc - Mistral shared routings and utilities - doc
 python3-mistral-lib - Mistral shared routings and utilities - Python 3.x
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   [ Ondřej Nový ]
   * d/control: Set Vcs-* to salsa.debian.org
   * d/copyright: Use https in Format
   * Removing gbp.conf, not used anymore or should be specified in the
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   [ Thomas Goirand ]
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 08:44:58PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> a bit like backports that are not security supported
> either.

this is now the 2nd mail within 24h were you claim this *wrongly*.

backports are (supposed to be) getting security support. if you dont do
this for your backports, you shouldnt have upload rights.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted qtdeclarative-opensource-src 5.10.1-1 (source) into experimental

[Dmitry Shachnev]

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qtdeclarative5-doc qtdeclarative5-doc-html
Architecture: source
Version: 5.10.1-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers 
Changed-By: Dmitry Shachnev 
Description:
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 libqt5quickparticles5 - Qt 5 Quick particles module
 libqt5quicktest5 - Qt 5 Quick Test library
 libqt5quickwidgets5 - Qt 5 Quick Widgets library
 qml- Qt 5 QML viewer
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 qml-module-qt-labs-settings - Qt 5 settings QML module
 qml-module-qt-labs-sharedimage - Qt 5 SharedImage QML module
 qml-module-qtqml-models2 - Qt 5 Models2 QML module
 qml-module-qtqml-statemachine - Qt 5 State Machine QML module
 qml-module-qtquick-layouts - Qt 5 Quick Layouts QML module
 qml-module-qtquick-localstorage - Qt 5 localstorage QML module
 qml-module-qtquick-particles2 - Qt 5 particles 2 QML module
 qml-module-qtquick-shapes - Qt 5 Qt Quick Shapes QML module
 qml-module-qtquick-window2 - Qt 5 window 2 QML module
 qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel - Qt 5 xmllistmodel QML module
 qml-module-qtquick2 - Qt 5 Qt Quick 2 QML module
 qml-module-qttest - Qt 5 test QML module
 qmlscene   - Qt 5 QML scene viewer
 qt5-qmltooling-plugins - Qt 5 qmltooling plugins
 qtdeclarative5-dev - Qt 5 declarative development files
 qtdeclarative5-dev-tools - Qt 5 declarative development programs
 qtdeclarative5-doc - Qt 5 declarative documentation
 qtdeclarative5-doc-html - Qt 5 declarative HTML documentation
 qtdeclarative5-examples - Qt 5 declarative examples
 qtdeclarative5-private-dev - Qt 5 declarative private development files
Changes:
 qtdeclarative-opensource-src (5.10.1-1) experimental; urgency=medium
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   * Refresh patches for the new release.
   * Bump Qt build-dependencies to 5.10.1.
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[Matteo F. Vescovi]

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 remmina-plugin-telepathy - Telepathy plugin for Remmina
 remmina-plugin-vnc - VNC plugin for Remmina
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 .
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 Thanks to Giovanni Panozzo (upstream dev) for them.
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   * debian/: debhelper bump 10 -> 11
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   * debian/control: Vcs-* fields updated pointing to salsa
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[Bastien Roucariès]

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Changed-By: Bastien Roucariès 
Description:
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Maintainer: Daniel Kahn Gillmor 
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Description:
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 libfaketime - Report faked system time to programs (preload library)
Closes: 890813
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[Julien Puydt]

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[Julien Puydt]

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Maintainer: Debian Javascript Maintainers 

Changed-By: Julien Puydt 
Description:
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Changes:
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 libobs0- recorder and streamer for live video content (shared library)
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 obs-studio - recorder and streamer for live video content
Closes: 867756 888361
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 .
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   * debian/libobs0.symbols: Update symbols.
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   [ Ondřej Nový ]
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[Matthias Klose]

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[Matthias Klose]

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Accepted lynx 2.8.9dev16-3 (source all amd64) into unstable

[Axel Beckert]

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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:15:35 +0100
Source: lynx
Binary: lynx-common lynx
Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 2.8.9dev16-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Lynx Packaging Team 
Changed-By: Axel Beckert 
Description:
 lynx   - classic non-graphical (text-mode) web browser
 lynx-common - shared files for lynx package
Closes: 890811
Changes:
 lynx (2.8.9dev16-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Axel Beckert ]
   * Declare compliance with Debian Policy 4.1.3. (No changes needed.)
   * Switch to debhelper compatibility level 11.
 + Update versioned debhelper build-depency accordingly.
 + Use technique described in #887390 to workaround incompatibility
   between dh v11 and autoconf-dickey.
   * Update Vcs-* headers for move to salsa.debian.org.
 .
   [ Adrian Bunk ]
   * Patch po/makefile.inn to use unique names for temporary files. Fixes
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Accepted node-base64-js 1.2.3+dfsg-1 (source) into unstable

[Bastien Roucariès]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Javascript Maintainers 

Changed-By: Bastien Roucariès 
Description:
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Changes:
 node-base64-js (1.2.3+dfsg-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * New upstream version
   * Bump compat
   * Bump policy (no changes)
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Accepted icewm 1.4.3.0~pre-20180217-1 (source amd64) into unstable

[Eduard Bloch]

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:20:05 +0100
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Eduard Bloch 
Changed-By: Eduard Bloch 
Description:
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 icewm-common - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager
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 icewm-lite - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager
Changes:
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 .
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   * Uploading to Sid, pros should outweigh the cons by now
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[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

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Version: 3.1.0~rc1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 

Changed-By: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
Description:
 androguard - full Python tool to play with Android files
Closes: 890593
Changes:
 androguard (3.1.0~rc1-2) unstable; urgency=medium
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[The Wanderer]

On 2018-02-19 at 16:03, Adrian Bunk wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 03:52:30PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:16:56PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:

>>> Debian already does "security by upstream releases" for Firefox, 
>>> and this clearly shows why this is problematic:
>> 
>> Also PostgreSQL, formerly MySQL, OpenJDK, etc. Some go smoothly (I
>> think PostgreSQL upstream is very good here), and some do not.
> 
> These (and also the kernel) are "following an upstream LTS branch", 
> not "security by upstream releases".
> 
> Also for Firefox the new releases on an upstrem LTS branch (currently
> 52) are usually not a problem.
> 
> The problem with Firefox is the once per year switch to a new LTS
> branch, like this year Firefox 52 -> 59. We aren't doing that for
> PostgreSQL.

Nit: the new Firefox ESR this year will apparently be version 60, not
59. They've postponed it by one release this time around, for reasons I
haven't bothered to retain.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Adrian Bunk]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 03:52:30PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:16:56PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 08:40:12PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > >...
> > > > An example what "no security support" means in practice:
> > > 
> > > I don't think anyone suggest "no security", but something like
> > > "security by upstream releases".
> > 
> > How can you guarantee that to our users for buster until mid-2022?
> > 
> > This only works when upstream provides an LTS branch covering the
> > lifetime of the Debian release.
> > 
> > Debian already does "security by upstream releases" for Firefox,
> > and this clearly shows why this is problematic:
> 
> Also PostgreSQL, formerly MySQL, OpenJDK, etc. Some go smoothly (I think
> PostgreSQL upstream is very good here), and some do not.

These (and also the kernel) are "following an upstream LTS branch",
not "security by upstream releases".

Also for Firefox the new releases on an upstrem LTS branch
(currently 52) are usually not a problem.

The problem with Firefox is the once per year switch to a new
LTS branch, like this year Firefox 52 -> 59.
We aren't doing that for PostgreSQL.

> Regards,
> 
> -Roberto

cu
Adrian

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Accepted xymonq 0.8-1 (source) into unstable

[Jonas Weber]

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[Arthur de Jong]

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[gregor herrmann]

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Accepted libspreadsheet-read-perl 0.78-1 (source) into unstable

[gregor herrmann]

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[Salvatore Bonaccorso]

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Description: 
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Accepted libsereal-perl 4.005-1 (source) into unstable

[gregor herrmann]

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 .
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   * declare conformance with Policy 4.1.3 (no changes needed)
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[Bill Allombert]

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Description:
 gap- computer algebra system for Groups, Algorithms and Programming
 gap-core   - GAP computer algebra system, core components
 gap-dev- GAP computer algebra system, compiler and development files
 gap-doc- GAP computer algebra system, documentation
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Closes: 890260
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 .
   * debian/rules:
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   * debian/rules, debian/gap2deb:
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   Closes: #890260.
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Adrian Bunk]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 09:42:28PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > > And why wouldn't we offer said upstream version instead of the
> > > unsupported older one?
> > 
> > In some cases this might require changing literally thousands of 
> > packages in stable.
> > 
> > Imagine said upstream version requires the latest Node.js.
> > 
> > Various other packages in stable won't work with the latest Node.js
> > and will also require upgrading.
> > 
> > In the Node.js ecosystem it is par for the course when upgrading
> > a package breaks countless reverse dependencies.
> 
> Right, and that's why we were talking about stuff like flatpak that
> bring the application with its dependencies, more or less like a
> container.

That's a better solution for such cases than shipping the software
in Debian.

And it's distribution-agnostic, meaning it can be provided once by 
upstream for all distributions instead of duplicating work in every 
Linux distribution.

> Michael

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

Accepted fonts-sil-gentiumplus 5.000-2 (source all) into unstable

[Bobby de Vos]

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Description:
 fonts-sil-gentiumplus - extended smart font family for Latin, Greek and 
Cyrillic
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[Bobby de Vos]

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Maintainer: Debian Fonts Task Force 
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Description:
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writing sys
Changes:
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Accepted fonts-sil-doulos 5.000-4 (source all) into unstable

[Bobby de Vos]

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Description:
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Changes:
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[Simon McVittie]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team 

Changed-By: Simon McVittie 
Description:
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 gir1.2-flatpak-1.0 - Application deployment framework for desktop apps 
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(development)
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(documentation)
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Description:
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(devel
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Changes:
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 .
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 09:42:28PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> 
> Right, and that's why we were talking about stuff like flatpak that
> bring the application with its dependencies, more or less like a
> container.
> 
Which happens to bring with an entirely different set of problems. That
said, the problems are not really any different than the problems
introduced by installing components with cpan or pip and then forgetting
about them.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:16:56PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 08:40:12PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> >...
> > > An example what "no security support" means in practice:
> > 
> > I don't think anyone suggest "no security", but something like
> > "security by upstream releases".
> 
> How can you guarantee that to our users for buster until mid-2022?
> 
> This only works when upstream provides an LTS branch covering the
> lifetime of the Debian release.
> 
> Debian already does "security by upstream releases" for Firefox,
> and this clearly shows why this is problematic:

Also PostgreSQL, formerly MySQL, OpenJDK, etc. Some go smoothly (I think
PostgreSQL upstream is very good here), and some do not.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> > And why wouldn't we offer said upstream version instead of the
> > unsupported older one?
> 
> In some cases this might require changing literally thousands of 
> packages in stable.
> 
> Imagine said upstream version requires the latest Node.js.
> 
> Various other packages in stable won't work with the latest Node.js
> and will also require upgrading.
> 
> In the Node.js ecosystem it is par for the course when upgrading
> a package breaks countless reverse dependencies.

Right, and that's why we were talking about stuff like flatpak that
bring the application with its dependencies, more or less like a
container.

Michael
-- 
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Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org)
Meskes at (Debian|Postgresql) dot Org
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Adrian Bunk]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 08:44:58PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>...
> Or we could put those software in a special repository (called "unsupported")
>...

What about calling it "nsa-enablement"?
Cause that's what it is.

But to be fair, no longer installing packages without security support 
in the default install would already be an improvement compared to 
stretch...

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Adrian Bunk]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 08:40:12PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
>...
> > An example what "no security support" means in practice:
> 
> I don't think anyone suggest "no security", but something like
> "security by upstream releases".

How can you guarantee that to our users for buster until mid-2022?

This only works when upstream provides an LTS branch covering the
lifetime of the Debian release.

Debian already does "security by upstream releases" for Firefox,
and this clearly shows why this is problematic:
- Firefox is very picky about the versions of two compilers
  (gcc and rust) being used. That's why wheezy contains a
  more recent gcc for Firefox, and that's why soon there will
  have to be a bootstrap of a more recent rust in stretch.
- Firefox upstream decided to break all extensions, including the
  ones packaged in stable, in the next ESR.

Except for extensions Firefox is a leaf package, imagining
"security by upstream releases" for some core part of the
system like OpenSSL sounds hilarious.

Node.js is the core of an ecosystem with > 1k packages in Debian.

gitlab is not the core of an ecosystem, but it uses both uses Node.js 
and Rails. How can you guarantee to provide "security by upstream 
releases" for gitlab until mid-2022 if a new gitlab might require
more recent versions of many dependencies?

> Michael

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Adrian Bunk]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 08:35:29PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > What is the user supposed to do when Debian announces that some 
> > software essential for that user is no longer supported in the
> > stable release the user is using?
> 
> Again, where does this differ from the user realizing their own self-
> baked installation cannot be upgraded anymore?

Upstream often has ways and schedules for their software that just 
happen to differ from how and when Debian does things.

"self-baked" might just be the normal upstream way of installing the 
software.

In the best case uptream provides a container containing everything the 
software needs.

> > At that point the options for the user are either to continue using 
> > software that might already have known grave vulnerabilities, or to
> > do a rushed attempt trying to find some way to self-install an
> > upstream
> > version that is still supported.
> 
> And why wouldn't we offer said upstream version instead of the
> unsupported older one?

In some cases this might require changing literally thousands of 
packages in stable.

Imagine said upstream version requires the latest Node.js.

Various other packages in stable won't work with the latest Node.js
and will also require upgrading.

In the Node.js ecosystem it is par for the course when upgrading
a package breaks countless reverse dependencies.

And all this automatically deployed via unattended-upgrades to
millions of machines running Debian stable.

> Michael

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

Accepted libsvg-perl 2.84-1 (source) into unstable

[gregor herrmann]

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[gregor herrmann]

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 19 février 2018 20:36 +0200, Adrian Bunk  :

>> Debian is not only about security support. We provide packages without
>> security support. We also have backports that come without security
>> support either. This is still better than installing random packages
>> made by random people which may or may not integrate properly into
>> Debian.
>
> The software might integrate properly into Debian - and allow everyone 
> on the internet to take control of your computer.
>
> On the server side we are talking about software like Node.js or gitlab.
>
> On the desktop side the MUA that comes with our default desktop renders
> HTML emails using a web engine that is not security supported by Debian.
>
> An example what "no security support" means in practice:
>
> If you are running Debian stable and haven't yet installed the
> LibreOffice security updates Debian published a few days ago,
> then opening a document is sufficient to make LibreOffice silently
> send your gpg and ssh private keys to whatever server the author
> of that document wants - no dialog, no warnings, you won't notice.
>
> If Debian would provide LibreOffice without security support,
> how many of our users would have been aware of this problem?

I don't know what's your point. You acknowledge we already ship not
security supported software. We could put a large dialog box when
installing/upgrading LibreOffice, like for other not security supported
software. Or we could put those software in a special repository (called
"unsupported"), a bit like backports that are not security supported
either.

Ubuntu does that since many years (everything in universe/multiverse is
unsupported) and nobody cares.
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> The software might integrate properly into Debian - and allow
> everyone 
> on the internet to take control of your computer.

Which is of course independent of the way you install the software.

> An example what "no security support" means in practice:

I don't think anyone suggest "no security", but something like
"security by upstream releases".

Michael
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Accepted gnome-settings-daemon 3.27.91-1 (source) into experimental

[Jeremy Bicha]

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> What is the user supposed to do when Debian announces that some 
> software essential for that user is no longer supported in the
> stable release the user is using?

Again, where does this differ from the user realizing their own self-
baked installation cannot be upgraded anymore?

> At that point the options for the user are either to continue using 
> software that might already have known grave vulnerabilities, or to
> do a rushed attempt trying to find some way to self-install an
> upstream
> version that is still supported.

And why wouldn't we offer said upstream version instead of the
unsupported older one?

Michael
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Accepted libtest-strict-perl 0.41-1 (source) into unstable

[gregor herrmann]

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[gregor herrmann]

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[Sebastian Ramacher]

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers 

Changed-By: Sebastian Ramacher 
Description:
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(BasicUsageEnvironment class)
 libgroupsock8 - multimedia RTSP streaming library (network interfaces and 
sockets
 liblivemedia-dev - multimedia RTSP streaming library (development files)
 liblivemedia62 - multimedia RTSP streaming library
 libusageenvironment3 - multimedia RTSP streaming library (UsageEnvironment 
classes)
 livemedia-utils - multimedia RTSP streaming tools
Changes:
 liblivemedia (2018.02.18-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * debian/patches: Remove patch for glibc 2.26 compatibility - fixed
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> > Let's agree to disagree. I find it perfectly fine if we told people
> > up
> > front that we support it as long as upstream has a version that
> > works
> > with the stable base. They are still better or at least not worse
> > of
> > with that than with a self-installed one.
> 
> Why? With the self-installed one they know up front that they need
> to 
> set up some kind of infrastructure to maintain it and can make an 
> informed decision about whether they want to take that on. How is it 
> better to think you have a debian supported install but in fact have
> to 
> come up with the very infrastructure you avoided on an emergency
> basis 
> at some point in the future?

I don't understand how this connects to what I, and others, were
saying. Nobody ever suggested to leave users in the dark, we talked
about documenting very clearly what they get and what they don't.
Besides my personal experience is that most people do not set up the
infrastructure you mentioned so they get caught unaware no matter what.

Michael
-- 
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Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org)
Meskes at (Debian|Postgresql) dot Org
Jabber: michael at xmpp dot meskes dot org
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Bug#890839: ITP: golang-github-showmax-go-fqdn -- Simple wrapper around net and os golang standard libraries providing Fully Qualified Domain Name of the machine.

[Sascha Steinbiss]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sascha Steinbiss 

* Package name: golang-github-showmax-go-fqdn
  Version : 0.0~git20160909.2501cdd-1
  Upstream Author : Showmax s.r.o.
* URL : https://github.com/ShowMax/go-fqdn
* License : Apache-2.0
  Programming Lang: Go
  Description : Golang library to provide local machine FQDN

The go-fqdn library is a simple wrapper around the 'net' and 'os' Golang
standard libraries to provide the Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) of
the local machine.

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Adrian Bunk]

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 09:18:13AM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2018-02-18 22:53, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > In the year 2018, any kind of "properly maintain" includes security
> > support.
> > 
> > Please elaborate how Debian can provide security support for packages
> > like gitlab and all their dependencies in buster until mid-2022.
> > 
> > If Debian cannot provide security support for the lifetime of a stable
> > Debian release, it is better for our users when they are installing the
> > software from upstream with the security support provided by upstream.
> 
> Putting security support over all else is surely how some people see it. But
> some upstreams also complain if you are going to ship ancient versions
> because the most recent ones contain all of the fixes. It's certainly more
> work to validate security fixes when backporting them to older versions. So
> it's also the "stable" guarantee (whatever it is seen as) that might need
> some re-adjustment.

Every change that gets published as DSA or part of a stable update gets 
automatically installed on millions of machines.

> One of the values is that you get some set of software that works together
> as a base and doesn't change, but then people install software on top of it
> that provides their service and if it's actually the thing they want to
> provide it's most likely not packaged anymore at this point. Because you'd
> want the latest features of the product you're using.

Sometimes that is true and sometimes it is not.
And what are the latest features today will likely be included in the 
version in the next Debian stable.

The main question is what Debian can offer throughout the distribution.

Installing some or few (open source or proprietary) products on top of 
the distribution is often required for various reasons.
If Debian ships an older version of one of these products that is not
a problem.

What is a problem is if such a 3rd party product suddenly breaks due
to an update in the stable distribution, or becomes vulnerable due to
unfixed CVEs in the stable distribution.

> So there's already a
> disconnect of essentially two tracks: the system's base at a solid version
> and whatever it is you want to offer at a fast moving pace. That's also a
> reality in 2018. And coming up with arbitrary deadlines of support are not
> all that helpful. Users don't care if the ancient version of the software
> they need in stable is security supported until mid-2022. If it doesn't
> satisfy their requirements anymore, they move to testing or to another
> distribution.

Let's make a real-life example:
salsa.debian.org and gitlab.

salsa currently runs a manually installed gitlab.
At some point after the release of buster salsa is expected to be
upgraded to buster.

If buster ships a gitlab package with no security support from Debian, 
would you recommend that Debian uses this package on salsa until 
bullseye gets released?

If buster ships a gitlab package that is supported by Debian by every 
once in a while upgrading to the latest upstream gitlab, would you 
recommend that Debian uses this package on salsa instead of continuing
to use a manually installed gitlab?

Even if gitlab would have been part of stretch it is clear that salsa 
wouldn't use the version in stretch. The "ancient version of the 
software" in buster will likely be recent enough for salsa, but for
such a central and exposed service security support and no regressions
are also important.

> Kind regards
> Philipp Kern

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

Accepted osmo-libasn1c 0.9.28-2 (source amd64) into unstable

[Thorsten Alteholz]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Mobcom Maintainers 

Changed-By: Thorsten Alteholz 
Description:
 osmo-libasn1c-dev - asn1c runtime code as shared library - development files
 osmo-libasn1c0 - asn1c runtime code as shared library
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 .
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[Andrea Bolognani]

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 .
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 .
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 .
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[gregor herrmann]

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[gregor herrmann]

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Description: 
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Changed-By: Katerina Kalou 
Description:
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Closes: 879622
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