GPU-ready (with free driver) buildd/CI/porterbox?
Hi folks, Just a bold thought. Two Debian developers intended to package basic libraries of the AMD ROCm (freesoftware-licensed) [1], but both of them don't have access to such hardware. Given that there are also a number of packages in debian with OpenCL enabled, I'm wondering wether a shared buildd/CI/porterbox with GPU[2] could be helpful? Disclaimer: I have zero experience about AMD GPU, and I don't know how good the free driver is. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=943556#20 [2] I mean AMD GPU running with free driver. None of nvidia's business here.
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
Hey Jonathan, Holger, On 2019-11-18 14:20, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Jonathan, adding Jurgen from HSBXL to cc: as he is much better suited to answer your questions than I am. On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 02:42:29PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: I'm not aware the video team has planned a sprint for 2020 already. So they could very well do it at the MiniDebCamp too. First off, thanks for taking the initiative to get something rolling. thanks! (and surely we could still change the location, but that would involve more work than I was willing and able to do. And I figured we should get something rolling now. AFAIK Debian has funds if we decided we want to rent a place... and I've been to HSBXL last FOSDEM and found it a fine place and I'm glad they offer it very openly to groups like us.) Cool! Glad you enjoyed our spot last year :) Linux.be offices was nice for the video team because we had a space where we could leave equipment safely without having to pack it up every day, they were also very welcoming and fine with people sleeping over and taking showers there. Not 100% sure whether that's possible at the hackerspace, linux.be might still be a better option for the video sprint but if you have more information on what's possible at the hackerspace, then that could help the video team to coordinate at the next IRC meeting. We have a server room, where we also stock our valuables. I'm guessing we could hand a key to one person. In any case, there are plenty of unused spaces in the building. It would strongly surprise me if I wouldn't get permission to use one to lock up your video gear. Sleeping is a tough issue... The building nor hackerspace are insured for overnighting. So whatever you do, do it wisely. As far as I know, there are no showers in our building. There might be one at the climbing wall (that's on the other side of the building), would have to ask for that. We do have a kitchenette with hot water. We've got a pretty solid network- and internet connection, so I think internal and external traffic shouldn't pose any problems for sending out a video stream. Hope to be seeing you in January, Jurgen P.S. wherever you end up... you're certainly invited for Bytenight :)
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
I created a page on our site: https://hsbxl.be/events/byteweek/2020/debian/ Feel free to edit the page yourself and commit the changes through our gitlab instance of the site: https://gitlab.com/hsbxl/site/edit/master/content/events/byteweek/2020/debian.md?commit_message=Edit%20events%2fbyteweek%2f2020%2fdebian.md See you in February! (some answers are inline below) Jurgen On 2019-11-18 11:29, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Jurgen & all, On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 03:58:39PM +0100, Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote: (...) Should we see that this Debian event would become too big, we still can move this to some other location in Brussels. Certainly, but I'm not anticipating any issues here. If you're coming multiple days, it could also be a cool occasion to do some teambuilding. There's a cool climbing wall in the same building as our hackerspace. There's also a bar on the ground floor where you can get nice food. great. What are the opening times of that bar? The bar has these opening hours: Mon 09:00–18:00 Tue 09:00–18:00 Wed 09:00-18:00 Thu 09:00–00:00 Fr 09:00–00:00 Sat Closed Sun Closed They have some (healthy) snacks in the climbing wall too (I love the veggie Croque Monsieur). They are open every day of the week (weekdays 12h-23h - Sat 12h-20h - Sun 10h-20h)
Re: libraries depending on interpreters
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 04:39:46PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > - for Ruby I only found guidance about application dependencies [2] > but not module dependencies. The standard library seems to come > with the interpreter here, so that's not a reason to depend on the > interpreter package. Still, almost all ruby-* packages do depend on > ruby | ruby-interpreter. FWIW we considered dropping this dependency, and it wasn't done so far mostly due to inertia. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
Hi Jurgen, On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:44:42PM +0100, Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote: > I created a page on our site: https://hsbxl.be/events/byteweek/2020/debian/ awesome & thanks a lot! > Feel free to edit the page yourself and commit the changes through our > gitlab instance of the site: I actually think it's very fine as it is. > See you in February! (some answers are inline below) see you then! :) > The bar has these opening hours: [...] thanks, I'll put this on our wiki page so the information doesn't get lost in the next 3 months. -- cheers, Holger --- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
Hi Jonathan, adding Jurgen from HSBXL to cc: as he is much better suited to answer your questions than I am. On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 02:42:29PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > > I'm not aware the video team has planned a sprint for 2020 already. So > > they could very well do it at the MiniDebCamp too. > First off, thanks for taking the initiative to get something rolling. thanks! (and surely we could still change the location, but that would involve more work than I was willing and able to do. And I figured we should get something rolling now. AFAIK Debian has funds if we decided we want to rent a place... and I've been to HSBXL last FOSDEM and found it a fine place and I'm glad they offer it very openly to groups like us.) > Linux.be offices was nice for the video team because we had a space > where we could leave equipment safely without having to pack it up every > day, they were also very welcoming and fine with people sleeping over > and taking showers there. Not 100% sure whether that's possible at the > hackerspace, linux.be might still be a better option for the video > sprint but if you have more information on what's possible at the > hackerspace, then that could help the video team to coordinate at the > next IRC meeting. I leave this to Jurgen. -- cheers, Holger --- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
Hi Holger On 2019/11/18 12:20, Holger Levsen wrote: > I'm not aware the video team has planned a sprint for 2020 already. So > they could very well do it at the MiniDebCamp too. First off, thanks for taking the initiative to get something rolling. Linux.be offices was nice for the video team because we had a space where we could leave equipment safely without having to pack it up every day, they were also very welcoming and fine with people sleeping over and taking showers there. Not 100% sure whether that's possible at the hackerspace, linux.be might still be a better option for the video sprint but if you have more information on what's possible at the hackerspace, then that could help the video team to coordinate at the next IRC meeting. -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄ Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
Hi, On 2019/11/18 12:20, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:22:58PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana > wrote: >> This year the video team sprint was at Linux Belgium. >> https://www.linuxbe.com/ > > I'm not aware the video team has planned a sprint for 2020 already. So > they could very well do it at the MiniDebCamp too. We haven't yet - it is a point on the agenda for our next meeting. It would be nice to do it at the MiniDebCamp. > >> I think video team uses there every year. > > Some years the video team did a sprint before FOSDEM, but not always. > Also I believe the sprint at Linux Belgium didnt take place in Brussels > but somewhere else. > > It was at Linux Belgium [1] in Diegem [1] https://www.linuxbe.com
Re: libraries depending on interpreters
> It would be nice to get some input on this. For Java the library packages never depend on the runtime. Only the applications depend on a runtime package (typically java[0-9]+-runtime | default-jre). And in general we avoid mentioning the dependencies provided by the environment executing the code. For example, a library using the Servlet API will not have an explicit dependency on libservlet-java, because the dependency is necessarily pulled by the Servlet container running the code (Tomcat, Jetty, etc). Emmanuel Bourg
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
Hi Jurgen & all, On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 03:58:39PM +0100, Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote: > You're most certainly welcome to come over the days before FOSDEM. great, thank you! > Note > though that there is already a group who is planning around the Friday > afternoon. Obviously, you're welcome to participate in each others events > too... Here is an overview of people who already confirmed: > https://hsbxl.be/events/byteweek/2020/ cool! As your space is pretty big, I don't think this will be a problem at all, so I went ahead and created https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/be/2020/MiniDebCamp Should we see that this Debian event would become too big, we still can move this to some other location in Brussels. > The people behind KiCAD and FreeCAD are also considering our space, but they > are afraid of it being flooded. We will be able to organize multiple groups > at the same time. nice! > If you're coming multiple days, it could also be a cool occasion to do some > teambuilding. There's a cool climbing wall in the same building as our > hackerspace. There's also a bar on the ground floor where you can get nice > food. great. What are the opening times of that bar? -- cheers, Holger --- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 08:12:07PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > There's also the SFC-organised Copyleft Conf on the Monday: > https://2020.copyleftconf.org/ yup, that's why I concluded having the MiniDebCamp before FOSDEM would be better :) -- cheers, Holger --- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian event pre FOSDEM?
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:22:58PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > This year the video team sprint was at Linux Belgium. > https://www.linuxbe.com/ I'm not aware the video team has planned a sprint for 2020 already. So they could very well do it at the MiniDebCamp too. > I think video team uses there every year. Some years the video team did a sprint before FOSDEM, but not always. Also I believe the sprint at Linux Belgium didnt take place in Brussels but somewhere else. -- cheers, Holger --- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature
