Re: rmadison vs. dak ls

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 2013-07-24 08:51, schrieb Ansgar Burchardt:
[..]
Just out of curiosity: Does that also mean, that a user running 
'apt-get

source ' may not receive the package version shipped in
testing, but one used by an other package?
If there is both a source and binary named  or requests 
source

for a binary package, one should get the right version:
+---
| $ apt-get -t testing source grub2
| [...]
| Need to get 5079 kB of source archives.
| Get:1 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing/main grub2
1.99-27+deb7u1 (dsc) [3729 B]
| [...]
+---
Otherwise I think one gets the highest version of the source package.


Ah, but that seems to work as expected then.  Many thanks for testing!


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Re: rmadison vs. dak ls (was: Re: Grub 2.00 in testing?)

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

* Ansgar Burchardt  [130723 11:11]:
[..]
> Please also not that the additional source packages included can be at a
> *higher* version than sources included in src_association. This is what
> happened here: grub2_1.99-27+deb7u1 is in jessie, however a package
> embedding a newer version of grub2 migrated to testing. This make
> grub2_2.00-14 appear in jessie's Sources as an additional source package.

Just out of curiosity: Does that also mean, that a user running 'apt-get
source ' may not receive the package version shipped in
testing, but one used by an other package?


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Re: request for removal of texmacs-extra-fonts

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 02.08.2012 09:37, schrieb Alexander Reichle-Schmehl:
> Usualleyreportbig ftp.debian.org should dop the trick.

That should have been: 'usually running "reportbug ftp.debian.org" ...'-


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Re: request for removal of texmacs-extra-fonts

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 02.08.2012 08:11, schrieb Atsuhito Kohda:
[..]
> What is the best way to do in this case.  
> Is this mail enough or something more is necessary?

Please see the paragraph "About removals in Debian" on
http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.html.  Usualleyreportbig
ftp.debian.org should dop the trick.


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Re: MySQL is still in unstable (Re: Bug#593463 closed by Debian FTP Masters (Bug#680362: Removed package(s) from unstable))

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

On 11.07.2012 04:45, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> Although mysql-5.1 was indeed removed from unstable, MySQL wasn't.
> mysql-5.1 was simply removed because MySQL has a version number in
> source package names and the number changed. MySQL is now packaged as
> mysql-5.5: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mysql-5.5.html

Citing from our mail to the maintainers:

>> We try to close Bugs which have been reported against this package
>> automatically.  But please check all old bugs, if they where closed
>> correctly or should have been re-assign to another package.


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Re: incomplete de translation of maintainer guide

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi Enrico,

On 12.06.2012 19:15, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> just seen that the German translation of the maintainer guide is
> quite incomplete.
> 
> Perhaps I could find some time for fixing it, if anybody explains
> me how to do that ;-)

Thanks for volunteering.  Please ask on the
debian-l10n-ger...@lists.debian.org mailing list.


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  Alexander


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Re: What to do with bug reports against non-existing/removed packages

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

On 18.05.2012 10:50, Paul Wise wrote:


Our bug tracker contains items for packages, which do (not longer) exist. What 
should happen to them? I see, that it might be a good idea to keep them for the 
case, a package is re-introduced. But this might happen only for a few 
packages. Most of them got removed because newer versions were released. What 
about closing those reports, if an RM-request is filed?


ftpmaster already close bugs automatically when processing RM requests.


Not always.  IIRC we only close bugs on removal if:

a) BTS is up and running.
b) source and binary are removed.
c) The package is removed from unstable.
d) The removed package is on sync on all arches. (Because otherwise we 
won't know with which version we'd like to close the bug.)


d) also affects binNMUed packages.


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  Alexander


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Re: A few questions from a new DD

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 29.02.2012 10:47, schrieb olivier sallou:
> Yes, they are. You'll have to wait for your key to be pushed to the
> machines you're interested in.
> (You can log in to db.debian.org  in the meantime)
> I already logged to web interface to update my profile.
> I do not see however any SSH key attribute in the web interface, did I
> miss something?. I know that it can be done via the GPG gateway, sending
> an email. 

IIRC you'l have to use the mail gateway to set your ssh key.  See
http://db.debian.org/doc-mail.html for details.


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  Alexander


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Re: Doesn't contain source for waf binary code

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 08.02.2012 09:02, schrieb Jon Dowland:
> Do we have any idea how many packages in Debian currently use waf?

Well, we opened about 55 bugs see
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=waf-unpack;users=ftpmas...@debian.org

(The list was created by searching for "waf" files in all source packages.)

However, in some package it just seems to have been leftover, and
upstream already changed to an other build system.

> Is waf growing in popularity?

I have no idea, but I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to remove
samba either...


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Re: Doesn't contain source for waf binary code

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!


Am 07.02.2012 14:16, schrieb Ian Jackson:

>  * Upstream waf should be packaged somehow.  Upstream's declared
>policy of asking packages to ship a copy of waf suggests that there
>won't be much API stability so we will need to encode the waf
>version number in the package name, and we may need to package
>multiple versions of waf.

Sorry, I'm quite busy and don't have time for a longer answer. We'll
follow up on this soonish.

However, regarding that specific point:  waf once was packaged in
Debian.  See <20100227195857.07540195@utumno>
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/02/msg00714.html) for details
about the removal.


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Re: Versionned dependencies

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 02.02.2012 10:54, schrieb Tanguy Ortolo:
> Packages can currenctly declared dependencies on specific versions of
> other packages, with simple relations: <<, <=, =, >= and >>. For
> instance:
> Package: xul-ext-adblock-plus
> Depends: iceweasel (>= 3.6.13) | iceape (>= 2.1) | …
> 
> While this is sufficient for most cases, it does not cover one
> interesting case: a dependencies on a range of versions. For instance:
> Package: xul-ext-adblock-plus
> Depends: iceweasel (>= 3.6.13, << 12.0~a1+) | iceape (>= 2.1, << 2.9~a1+) 
> | …
[..]

Isn't that why we have versioned provides?  E.g. iceweasel and iceape
could provide xul-api-3.6 (or whatever), while all the xul-ext packages
depends on xul-api-3.6.

Isn't the best solution, but seems to be more elegant that the break you
mentioned.


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  Alexander


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Re: Bug#604947: midish: diff for NMU version 1.0.4-1.1

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

[ droping the bug logs from CC, adding -devel in case further discussion
is needed ]

Hi Konstantinos!

Am 31.01.2012 13:51, schrieb Konstantinos Margaritis:

> I've prepared an NMU for midish (versioned as 1.0.4-1.1) and
[..]

+midish·(1.0.4-1.1)·unstable;·urgency=low
+
+··*·Non-maintainer·upload,·fixes·FTBFS.·(Closes:·#604947,·#652177)
+
+·--·Konstantinos·Margaritis···Tue,·31·Jan·2012·00:44:29·+



I'm not the maintainer but nevertheless I'd like to comment on that
changelog entry:  Please be more verbose on what you actually changed.
Without taking a look at the bug reports one barely knows what the
problem was and without taking a deeper look into the debdiff, what you
actually did to solve the problem is a mystery.

Also it would IMHO be appropriate to thank the submitter of a patch,
when uploading his/her patch in changelog.


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  Alexander


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Re: Lock down of io.debian.net

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 25.01.2012 13:02, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:

> we noticed that due to some misconfiguration all home directories of 
> io.debian.net have been exposed through HTTP.
> 
> As an immediate action, the machine has been locked down for further 
> inspection.
[..]
> We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.

Having used that machine a couple of times already (even so I only have
some dotfiles there) I can assure you that there is no inconvenience at all!

On the contrary:  Thanks taking this issue so seriously!


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Re: Spending Debian money for porter boxes [Was: The archive now supports xz compression]

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 21.08.2011 18:59, schrieb Stefano Zacchiroli:

[ more powerful hardware needed ]

> What is missing is rather a bit of coordination of people that:
[..]
> Any taker?

Well, according to [1] and [2], we have some hardware donations
coordinators, and at [3] we have a list of needed hardware.

I'm not involved in that area, but what you describe sounds actually
pretty much like what they do / could do.  So it would be interesting to
know, why that approach currently doesn't work, and how that can be
improved.

 1: http://www.debian.org/intro/organization
 2: http://www.debian.org/donations#equipment_donations
 3: http://www.debian.org/misc/hardware_wanted


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  Alexander


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Re: /usr/share/doc/ files and gzip/xz/no compression

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 16.08.2011 02:43, schrieb Russell Coker:

> I'd like to see zless work transparently with bzip and xz compressed files.  
> There's really no need for three different wrapper programs when the zless 
> program can just consult the magic db to determine which decompression 
> program 
> to use.

FWIW, if you the following in your bashrc:

if [ -f /usr/bin/lesspipe ]; then
eval "$(lesspipe)"
fi

you can just "less somegzfile" or "less somebzipfile".  In squeeze you
can't use less on a xz compressed file, but I guess that could be added.


The bashrc snippet

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  Alexander


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Re: Bug#634235: ITP: mess-desktop-entries -- Desktop entries for MESS ROMS

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Am 20.07.2011 13:58, schrieb Jordi Mallach:

> This was noted by Tolimar when he accepted the package, and I made the
> changes in -2, which should be sitting in NEW right now.

... and got accepted four minutes, after you sent your mail ;)


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Re: Linux 3.0

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 31.05.2011 01:21, schrieb Adnan Hodzic:
>> We could delay uploading it to unstable for a while if this is
>> necessary to allow time for fixes to userland.
> Would this mean we wouldn't have it in Experimental either?

Quoting the original announcement:

> If you suspect that your packages may have such dependencies, please
> test against Linux 3.0 release candidates when they are uploaded to 
> experimental (which will happen in the next few days).



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Re: Debian Project mourns the loss of ...

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 27.04.2011 03:00, schrieb Ben Finney:

>> Could the Debian obituaries start including the age, and cause of death
>> please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obituary#Contents
> −1. It's not the business of the Debian project to ask such questions of
> the surviving family, nor to distribute that information without
> explicit permission.

In these cases Debian's press team doesn't care about the Wikipedia's
opinion about the content obituary, but primary for the wishes of the
family. So sorry, jidanni, in general we won't do this.


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Re: MBF alert: packages with very long source / .deb filenames

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 28.03.2011 11:23, schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
> Test reports from reading such an ISO image by a real Windows machine
> would be interesting ... :)
> E.g. with a file name of 100 characters:
> 
>   xorriso -as mkisofs -o test.iso -J -joliet-long -graft-points \
>   
> /0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789=/some/file/on/disk

Didn't worked over here with an uptodate Windows XP.  It is mountable,
but only the filename is truncated to the first 64 characters.


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Re: Misc Developer News (#24)

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

* Goswin von Brederlow  [110201 21:29]:
> > squeeze release live microblogging
[..]
> Is there a ToDo list of things that need to happen during the release
> process, idealy with ETAs? Something that gives an overview without the
> distractions of funny and otherwise interesting facts about Debian?

Yes, there are checklists.  But TTBOMK there are not ETAs.

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  Alexander


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Re: Results of the App Installer Meeting

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 27.01.2011 13:45, schrieb Andreas Tille:

>> If I remember correctly, DDTP got a short mention and the result was:
>> "Wow, debian really has translations for package descriptions?!?"
>> Other distributions seem to have only failed (=very outdated) tries if any.
> 
> IMHO this does show two things:
>   1. Debian is cool (people here know this). ;-)
>   2. Debian fails to communicate this coolness. :-(

FWIW:  It will be mentioned in the next issue of the Debian Project
News.  Feel free to review it:
svn+ssh://svn.alioth.debian.org/svn/publicity/dpn/en/current/index.wml


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Re: Forwarding bugs upstream

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 13.01.2011 11:54, schrieb Olaf van der Spek:

>> Now we just need to define what a proper job is.
> Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer.

You mean like this http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/help_requested?
Let's have a look:

# chromium-browser [..] requested 228 days ago.
# dpkg [..] requested 2245 days ago.
# grub2 [..] requested 2439 days ago.
# libreoffice [..] requested 1368 days ago.

Any other good ideas?  Perhaps something new ideas, which isn't already
practices?


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Re: 404 Errors on http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 16.12.2010 13:51, schrieb Fabian Greffrath:

> for each package currently in the NEW queue (i.e. from minidlna on)
> clicking on the version number to get further information about the
> packag results in an 404 Error, e.g. "The requested URL
> /new/minidlna_1.0.18-4.html was not found on this server".
> 
> What's the cause of this

AFAIK the script is currently disabled, as it chokes on too large packages.


> and when will it be fixed?

When the script has been activated again (preferably by fixing the script).


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Re: Reportbug not translated (Was: Bug#605892: please state that mails will be publically archived)

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 06.12.2010 14:48, schrieb Andreas Tille:

>> The only way I can see this working would be to have a sort of staging
>> bts, where users could send their bugs in their mother tongue, and where
>> some i18n teams could translate and forward to the actual bts. That's a
>> long way before that happening, and I'm not certain it would work well.
> Contacting the native language mailinglist could be such "staging BTS".
> 
> And yes, I'm aware that this is not really optimal and that's why I
> hesitated to simply fire up reportbug and file a bug report against it.

If I remember correctly, that was discussed some years ago, and the
outcome of the discussion was, that as our translation teams lack the
ressources, non English speaking users should contact their respective
-user-foo mailing lists, asking someone to proxy their bug report for them.

I don't think so much has changed regarding that, has it?


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Re: Launch of Debian 6.0

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 21.11.2010 16:39, schrieb Jonathan Carter (highvoltage):

>> when is Squeeze going to be stable? When can I expect this?
> when it's ready.
> 
> See also: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/

Also see http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20101116b for some other ways
to help.


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Re: Work-needing packages report for Oct 22, 2010

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 22.10.2010 16:26, schrieb Martin Zobel-Helas:

>> The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
>> through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
>> last week.
>>
>> Total number of orphaned packages: 0 (new: 0)
>> Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 0 (new: 0)
>> Total number of packages requested help for: 0 (new: 0)
>>
>> Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.
> 
> I disabled that cronjob for now, it misses the bts2ldap part on quantz.

Any news on that?  We used to mention the numbers on the Debian Project
News, and I got asked, why we dropped these numbers.  So it seems they
are indeed read and missed :)


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Re: Bits from ftp-team (aka: Don't upload RC fixes to NEW queue)

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 02.11.2010 10:55, schrieb Alexander Reichle-Schmehl:

> Best regards,
>   Alexander, who promises to spent some more time on NEW processing in
> the coming weeks, but points out, that still more volunteers are needed

Just for the record:  We worked quite a bit recently on the NEW queue,
getting it down to about 170 packages as of now.  Also thanks to Luka
who finished his coding task and helped a lot with it :)

We still favour packages fixing RC bugs (and sometimes others wanted by
the release team) over others and skip some packages, where we don't
have the time and manpower to investigate if it's save to let them in.


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Re: Bits from ftp-team (aka: Don't upload RC fixes to NEW queue)

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 02.11.2010 15:57, schrieb Rene Engelhard:

> And because people can do such bogus things you are going to stop 
> progress/testing
> completely? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Where did I said that?  I said in my original mail:

>> For example, work on things that are not entirely release critical,
>> like processing the NEW queue [2], are not the highest priority currently.

And later explained some of the reasons of which you quote one part.


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Re: Bits from ftp-team (aka: Don't upload RC fixes to NEW queue)

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 31.10.2010 22:42, schrieb Lucas Nussbaum:

>> [..] For example, work on things that are not entirely release critical,
>> like processing the NEW queue [2], are not the highest priority currently. 
>> [..]

> I must admit that I'm not too happy about that.

Neither are we.  However, unless someone reacts on our constant "we want
more members in the team"-mails, I fear there's not much we can do.

Please note that we see your arguments and agree completely, but please
also note it's not as easy as it sounds.  IIRC recently PostgreSQL 9.x
was accepted, resulting in some packages not being able to migrate to
testing.

I think there's has already been the case, that a ABI breaking library
was accepted to experimental (hey, it was only experimental, was it?),
and later uploaded by the maintainer to unstable, leading to unpleasant
results as well.  (Granted, not during this freeze.)

So, I can choose between helping the release by trying to fix some RC
bugs, or getting kicked by the release team for accepting $package, I
usually choose the former ;)


> Finally, as DDs, we sometimes have a responsibility towards our upstreams:
> if an upstream says "could you upload that new RC release to Debian
> experimental so we can see if the porting issues were correctly fixed?",
> it's a bit annoying to have to take long NEW delays into account.

Just for the record:  I consider that a legitimate reason to ask for the
package to be fast tracked.


> So I really think that long delays in NEW processing[1] are annoying and
> harmful, whether we are in freeze or not, and that the fact that NEW
> packages being processed won't end up in squeeze is not really a good
> reason for not processing them.

Just for the record 2:  Before the freeze, we weren’t that bad (beside
some problematic packages, which indeed waited far to long), and most
packages where processed within days (and sometimes even hours).


>> This also means that we might not notice a package fixing RC bugs in the NEW
>> queue.
> I would have loved to say that UDD already can give you a list of
> packages in NEW fixing RC bugs, but unfortunately, there's a small bug
> in the way the NEW status is imported that prevents that.

There's a dak patch floating around, which will hi light packages fixing
RC bugs in the output of http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html.  So it
will become easier to spot the important packages to accept immediately
(which will still be no excuse for fixing your RC bugs in NEW ;)


> AFAIK, the main reason for NEW processing is the legal verification.
> For new binary packages, legal verifications are out of the picture,
> so couldn't you use the information provided by the maintainer in the
> control files, accept the package immediately, and do verification a
> posteriori ?

As the whole point of NEW processing is to decide whether we are in the
legal position to distribute the uploaded package, I fear it won't be
possible to do that after we already did so.


Best regards,
  Alexander, who promises to spent some more time on NEW processing in
the coming weeks, but points out, that still more volunteers are needed


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Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 01.11.2010 13:51, schrieb Christian PERRIER:

>>> The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta
>>> release of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze.
[..]
>> I was wondering if there will be WPA support in D-I for squeeze, as this
> No. Nobody did the needed tests on the patch proposed in
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=22;bug=327309

Are there some guidelines on how to test this patch?


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  Alexander


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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 15.09.2010 17:07, schrieb Marco d'Itri:

>> I suspect that those figures are because 2048 bits is the default size
>> for RSA keys and 4096 bits is the largest size that GnuPG supports.
> FWIW, the OpenPGP smartcard v2 supports keys up to 3072 bits.

At the recent FrOSCon I have been told, that 4096 bit keys should work,
but aren't officially supported. (Haven't tested it myself, yet.)


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  Alexander


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Re: mass bug filing: packages not installable on any architecture

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

* Ben Hutchings  [100804 04:42]:

> > http://edos.debian.net/edos-debcheck/results/unstable/latest/every/list.php
> I think some of these are old versions of arch:all packages that for
> some reason have not been automatically removed.  I think you should
> consider only the latest version of each binary package available in the
> suite.

Uh?  You have some examples?  The auto-cruft stuff on ftp-master.d.o
should notice these, but currently lists none (see
http://ftp-master.debian.org/cruft-report-daily.txt).

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  Alexander


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Re: CUT BoF at DebConf10

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

* Stefano Zacchiroli  [100802 14:23]:

> Thanks for noticing, I didn't realize that. I'll try to check with the
> local team if something can be arranged, although unfortunately there
> are no resources for video in all rooms.  Minutes will be posted
> nonetheless and hopefully we can then have a project-wide discussion
> afterwards.

We had a similar issue for the publicity BoF, and the procedure seem to
be:

- Look at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/AdHocSessions for free
  time slots
- Ask ta...@debconf.org to reschulde
- If you it 48h before the session will take place, the video team will
  try to cover it


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  Alexander


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Re: When and how can we migrate out of CVS and WML ?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 30.07.2010 11:38, schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:

> [Craig Small]
>> The problem with replacing WML is; what do you replace it with? and
>> will it bring any real benefit?
> What about using XHTML and po4a to handle translations using .po
> files?

And how come common headers and styles or in wml embedded scripts into
this scenario?


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  Alexander


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Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Am 26.07.2010 21:04, schrieb Russell Gadd:

>>> I spotted this topic in Debian Project News.

Thanks, you just made my day :)

>>> I am a non-technical Debian user (Lenny AMD 64 bit)
>> Up-to-date flash support is provided by the flashplugin-nonfree package
>> available from Debian's unofficial backports.org.
> Thanks for the info Mike

Uhh, sadly Adobe currently doesn't support their flashplugin on the
AMD64 architecture, but with a small trick you an use the 32-Bit version
of the plugin on AMD64.  Please see the instructions on
http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Debian5.0.27Lenny.27amd64


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  Alexander


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Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 22.07.2010 09:21, schrieb Josselin Mouette:

>> I think with our next release, we will have got less users. Why?
>> We stripped out all binary only firmware images from Linux and put them
>> mostly into the non-free linux-firmware image.
> If you think this is a problem, you could help with providing non-free
> enabled installation images instead of whining.

I might remember incorrectly, but isn't that already implemented?


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  Alexander


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Re: Bug#589229: vmfs-tools: possible FHS violation, as fsck.vmfs is not in /sbin

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

HI!

Am 16.07.2010 11:18, schrieb Mike Hommey:

> So until the program actually does what it is intended to, I'm not
> exactly sure it is safe to put it in /sbin. OTOH, I could rename it, but
> except for nitpicking, what exactly would be the point?
> 
> What do fellow developpers think?

Leaving it the way it is seems to me like a good idea.


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  Alexander


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Re: ftp-master/release move

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 04.07.2010 14:35, schrieb Joerg Jaspert:

> > I just reactivated our cronjobs, processing is back to normal.
Due to NEW processing after syncing the two machines, some of you might
get a reject mail for packages which had already been accepted.  Don't
worry, you can safely ignore them.


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  Alexander


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Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 30.06.2010 02:31, schrieb Michael Gilbert:

> Advantages of switching to backports:
> - very simple for the maintainers to keep up to date with respect to
>   security updates (a matter of just recompiling the unstable/testing
>   package for stable)

As current maintainer of the iceweasel and xulrunner backports I invite
you to try that out.  Calling that "very simple maintainance" is far
from what I experienced so far.

Best regards,
  Alexander


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Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 29.06.2010 22:52, schrieb Michael Gilbert:

>>> I believe I do.  Backports are for recompilations of unstable packages
>>> for the stable releases.
>>  Thanks for excellently stating that you do *not* know about what is
>> backports about and for, you couldn't have done that better.
> The second paragraph on the front page of backports.org says pretty
> much the same exact thing in different words.  

Uh?  "Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and
unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates) [..]"


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  Alexander


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Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 29.06.2010 17:24, schrieb Michael Gilbert:

> No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports.

You don't know the current policies WRT packages in backports and about
their reasoning, do you?


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  Alexander


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Allowing QA uploads for DMs (was: A lot of pending packages)

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 15.06.2010 09:50, schrieb Neil Williams:

> OTOH if those requesting sponsorship were more open to packaging some of
> the orphaned packages listed under WNPP and qa.debian.org which
> have already been through NEW 
[..]
> What about if Debian QA packages were all to be deemed suitable for DM
> upload, including those which have been orphaned for over 2 months
> without a change of maintainer? Maybe when an orphaned package is
> uploaded with the change of maintainer to Debian QA, the DM upload
> field could also be set?

It's not that easy, as the current criteria for a DM upload are DMUA:Yes
set AND listed as maintainer or uploader in the most recent upload to
experimentatl or unstable IIRC.


However, I like the idea :)


Best regards,
  Alexander


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Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Joerg Jaspert schrieb:


just a short notice for everyone out there who wants to upload or waits
for a package migration to testing:

ries.debian.org, the host behind ftp-master.debian.org, has hardware
trouble, a failed memory module keeps resetting the machine at random
intervals.


A small update:  Thanks to our DSAs ries seems to be working again, but 
we noticed some other broken files in the archive.  We are therefore 
comparing checksums over the entire archive, which might take same time 
(as it is ~500GB).



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  Alexander


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Re: Serializing transitions

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Neil Williams schrieb:


Wouldn't a simpler method be to identify uploads that inadvertently
impair an ongoing transition and bump that one upload to experimental
or simply tell the DD not to upload to unstable?

[..]

Maybe extending dput functionality to check a file on a central server
that lists the ongoing transitions and blocking the upload in the first
place?


Maybe I'm wrong but I thought the release team already has the 
possibility to block uploads because of transitions?  I assumed the 
problem was to identify the packages involved in a transition...



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  Alexander


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Re: mail notifcation on "failed" builds

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Cyril Brulebois schrieb:


Thanks, did't knew about that.

Tag! You're it. Go and open a bug against developers-reference with a
patch. ;)


Been there, done that, got no shirt:
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/pkgs.html#packages-arch-specific


Best regards,
  Alexander, who was so sure, he had looked in the devref before asking 
the question



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Re: mail notifcation on "failed" builds

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Cyril Brulebois schrieb:


If your supported architectures aren't going to change, please get
your package added to P-a-s[1,2] by following instructions[3].


Thanks, did't knew about that.


Best regards,
  Alexander


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mail notifcation on "failed" builds (was: Re: Misc developer news (#20))

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Raphael Hertzog schrieb:


The autobuilding system now mails notifications for failed builds to
the PTS, keyword buildd. [..] Please note that these notifications do
not necessarily mean bug reports in your package but could also be
caused by other packages, temporary uninstallabilities and
arch-specific breakages. A look at the build log despite this
disclaimer would be appreciated however.


Indeed, they are not always a failure.  A arch specific package I 
sponsor (rt-tests) send me some of these failed build notifications. 
The "Problem" the build fails, because the archittecure is not 
supported, as can for example be seen on the hppa build log:


==
rt-tests_0.66-1.dsc: hppa not in arch list or does not match any arch 
wildcards: alpha amd64 armel i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sh4 
sparc -- skipping

==

First I wouldn't expected the buildd to even try to build the package 
(but then again, I don't know how our buildds work); in any case it 
would be cool, if these failed builds wouldn't trigger such a mail, as 
it is the expected behaviour.



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  Alexander


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Re: Flag images

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Dmitry E. Oboukhov schrieb:
>> I wish to use my country's flag to refer to my language...
>> Don't. There are many languages not associated with countries or in
>> use in many different countries. [..]
> Is it really so big problem? Looks like as non-issue, farfetched.

Believe me as someone who mentioned "Taiwan" and "Tibet" in a press
announcement:  Such things aren't far fetched..


Best regards,
  Alexander



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Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!


Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb:


There has also been some similar discussions in Ubuntu with some
users reporting that some web sites and packages don't work with
openjdk but I have not seen a lot of concrete proof.

I might look a naive user here, but with openjdk I still don't have
plugin support in firefox 3.5, whereas it was working with
sun-java*. I'm on amd64 and using icedtea6-plugin, even the most simple
examples of http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.5.0/demos/applets.html
do not appear to work.


Interesting.  I just tested all the examples on that page using 
iceweasel 3.0.14 on amd64..  All worked (Granted; at one point I turned 
if sound and I didn't checked every tiny bit in the "SwingSet2 Applet").



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  Alexander


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Re: Please help with checking the boot and shutdown script ordering

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Petter Reinholdtsen schrieb:

> Another new resource is piuparts, which will detect packages with
> inconsistency between the package dependency and the init.d script
> dependency - like a script requiring $portmap while the package do not
> depend on portmap.

Couldn't that be added as a check to lintian?


Best Regards,
  Alexander



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Re: eiskaltdc extra licence

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Rene Engelhard schrieb:

>>> a) rename/move this file another place and patch code
> Depends on the license. If it was (L)GPL you could use
> /usr/share/common-licenses/...

GPL with OpenSSL permission. No default template for that.

But yes, that would be option c) wich doesn't work in this case :(


Best regards,
  Alexander



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Re: eiskaltdc extra licence

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi Andrey,

Such questions are better suited for the debian-mentors list.


Andrey Tataranovich schrieb:

> What should I do to satisfy DEBIAN policy?
> 
> a) rename/move this file another place and patch code
> b) add lintian override

I would go for b).


Best regards,
  Alexander



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Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Aurelien Jarno schrieb:

>> The press release not only mentions release goals but also
>> "infrastructure goals" ftpmaster would like to have done by then.
> Then, maybe the ftpmasters should communicate through
> debian-devel-announce *in addition* to the press releases.

To the best of my knowledge all these points had already been mentioned
on different lists, e.g. during the recent "NEW queue" thread.  And
honestly speaking: The points mentioned have nearly no effect for most
maintainers.  The point with the highest change of being noticed by Joe
Random Developer are the automatic rejection of packages failing lintian
tests, which is actually more or lest what is already done manually
while processing the new queue now system wide and automatically.  So I
don't think it's that bad, that ftpmasters haven't announced their
plans, yet to d-d-a.


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  Alexander


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Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Aurelien Jarno schrieb:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
>> The following goals for Squeeze have been identified up to now:
[ some stuff ]

> And according to the press release: 
[ some more stuff ]

The press release not only mentions release goals but also
"infrastructure goals" ftpmaster would like to have done by then.

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  Alexander


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Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Ben Hutchings schrieb:

>> Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to
>> me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we
>> only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this?
> This is what debian-infrastructure-announce is for (though
> debian-devel-announce might be appropriate in some cases).  But there
> was no announcement in this case.

To the best of my knowledge (guessing from remarks on irc) our sysadmins
got to know about the needed downtime quite shorthand.  So I guess they
where mostly busy getting it shut down cleanly.


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  Alexander



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Re: Configurable debian/control & debian/rules

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Mathieu Malaterre schrieb:

>   My question is simply: how do express that only one Binary package
> requires a particular Build-Depends package, but the other remaining
> Binary package should be fine ?

You can't. You specify build-depends for _source_ packages, which in turn
build the binary packages.  And since you can't specify to build a specific
 binary package anyway¹:  Why would you need to specify that a build
depends is only needed for a single binary package?

Best regards,
  Alexander

1: Well, there is the special case where one source package builds one
arch:all package one architecture specific one.  In that case you can
simply use build-depends and Build-Depends-Indep.


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Bug#532975: ITP: microcom -- minimalistic terminal programm

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Alexander Reichle-Schmehl" 


* Package name: microcom
  Version : 2009.6
  Upstream Author : Anca and Lucian Jurubita, Sascha Hauer, Marc Kleine-Budde 
and Wolfram Sang
* URL : http://git.pengutronix.de/?p=tools/microcom;a=summary
* License : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : minimalistic terminal programm

microcom is a minimalistic terminal program for accessing devices (e.g.
switches) via a serial connection.  I features connection via RS232 serial
interfaces (including setting of transferrates) as well as in "telnetmode" as
specified in rfc2217.



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Re: anyone using interactive bugscripts

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Josselin Mouette schrieb:

> From now on, I’d say we can either:
>   * force such scripts to use an abstraction layer to prompt the
> user;

Wouldn't it be possible to use debconf for that? It already has interfaces
for different user interfaces (TTBOMK including KDE, GNOME, Dialog and
simple readline) and was designed to ask the user questions, wasn't it?

Still doesn't solve the terminal Problem for GUI bug reporting
applications, though.


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  Alexander


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Re: realtime kernel for Debian

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Uwe Kleine-König schrieb:

> [your To: header was strange, maybe my mail reaches less recipents than
> your's]

Well, at least it reached me ;)

>>> Maybe providing a patch package is a better first step?
>> thanks for thinking. Who could provide such a patch package?
> I can.  I'd need a sponsor, though.  I know two Debian developers, I
> will ask them.

Willing to sponsor as soon as you've got a package to test ready.


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  Alexander



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Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Ben Hutchings schrieb:
> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 09:28 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> [..] cdrecord [..]
>>> [..] wodim [..]

Please, not again.  The arguments have been exchanged ad invinitum a couple
of times already. So if there is nothing new to bring up, please don't
restart the discussion.


Best regards,
  Alexander


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Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Bastian Venthur schrieb:
> Another way to see it is that unstable is constantly flowing and
> we're just forking a stable distribution from it from time to time.

Sounds like what was done before testing was introduced, which worked even
less, with even longer freeze periods, where you couldn't even upload to
experimental.  How does your proposal solve the issues we had back then?


Best Regards,
  Alexander


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Re: Release plans? Bits from the RMs?

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!


Christian Perrier schrieb:

> So, what's the status now?

Can't answer for the release team, but it seems to me, that everyone is
waiting for the outcome of GR 2008/vote_003 [1]...

But I would appreciate an "official Bits from" mail, too.

Links:
  1: http://www.debian.org/vote/2008/vote_003



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  Alexander


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Re: List of RC-buggy source packages by maintainer/uploader

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Luk Claes schrieb:
>>> Guenter Geiger (Debian/GNU) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>gem
>> This was fixed by an NMU, but can't transition to testing due to dependency 
>> on
>> libquicktime 2:1.0.3+debian-2. What to do in cases like this?
> 
> Contact the release team to see if it's possible to unblock the
> dependency or if an upload to tpu is preferred.
> 
> In this case, please upload to testing-proposed-updates.

A fixed packages has already been uploaded to tpu (as dato had asked for).


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  Alexander



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Re: Is this another headsup: lenny+1=squeeze

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Osamu Aoki schrieb:

> Hmmm... lenny+1=squeeze 
> 
> This is my first sighting :-)

Sometimes it's worth to read these "Release update" mails comming in
till the end:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg0.html ;)


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  Alexander


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Re: Lenny upgrade-advisor

[Alexander Reichle-Schmehl]

Hi!

Am 7.9.2008 schrieb "Franklin PIAT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>I've worked on an upgrade advisor tool for Lenny. The idea is to do some
>sanity check to then warn the users of potential problems (and also
>advertise some best practices). The example below should be quite
>explicit.

Wonderfull idea!  Are you "synchronizing" with the release notes? 
Meaning, that you things you test, are documented there and vice versa?


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  Alexander


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