Re: broadcast error messages, unofficial Debian 12

2023-12-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Alan,

debian-devel is for discussion of the development of debian. Your
query appears to be user support, which takes place on debian-user.
I've set Reply-To: debian-user.

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 02:52:11PM -0500, Alan Corey wrote:
> I can have 2 or more Zutty terminal windows running to work on a
> program. When I get a compiling error in one terminal it gets
> broadcast to both windows.
> 
> This particular error is not anything in my code, I don't recognize any of
> it, but it shows up because I had a warning in my stuff:
> 
>  W [main.cc:1161] (Unimplemented) unhandled OSC: '8;;
> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Warning-Options.html#index-Wunused-but-set-variable
> '
> W [main.cc:1161] (Unimplemented) unhandled OSC: '8;;'

I'm not familiar with Zutty but this message appears to come from
your terminal, Zutty, which also explains why it appears in all of
your terminal windows.

An example of suxh a Zutty diagnostic is here:

https://github.com/tomscii/zutty/issues/43

though it is not your specific one.

So, you probably want to seek support from Zutty, e.g. at their
github issues.

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: testing for rootfs vs. /usr reproducibility regressions

2021-08-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Tim,

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 05:29:54PM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> I have a new-be question, what is the point of merged-usr?

I put "debian merged-usr" into my favourite search engine and the
first result was:

https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge

Does this page and those linked from it answer your question
sufficiently as to what the point of the effort is?

The link near to the bottom:

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge

is quite informative.

If you read those and it still isn't clear, it might be best to ask
about it on debian-user, as debian-devel would really be for Debian
Developers (who are mostly up to speed on this already to varying
degrees) to decide about *how* to do it, not the basics of *why* or if
it even *should* be done.

It has been the default for some time for new installs and the
tech-ctte already decided that it will be the only supported
configuration for the next release after bookworm. At this point
rehashing the whys of it would be repeating conversations had over
the last several years, so I feel like it's a user documentation
issue at this point if that's necessary.

Cheers,
Andy



Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi,

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 05:54:33PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> On 2021-07-18 5:07 p.m., Andy Smith wrote:
> > I recommend understanding the issue before putting forth an opinion.
> > 
> Maybe I shall correct what I said as it may be misunderstood.

It's unclear to me why you've taken my reply to your mail on
debian-user, and instead sent it to me privately and also to
debian-devel.

As neither of us are Debian Developers and you don't seem to have
done much research regarding merged-/usr, I don't feel it is
on-topic for me to continue that conversation with you on
debian-devel.

I recommend doing some more reading of these threads and the
relevant wiki pages and if things are still unclear then asking
user-level questions only on debian-user.

Thanks,
Andy



Re: Bug#968921: ITP: dotnet-core-3.1 -- Microsoft .NET Core SDK 3.0.100

2020-08-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hello,

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 06:06:10PM -0500, Alistair Young wrote:
> As Microsoft themselves point out, packaging this for main is
> useful because it lowers the barrier to use of .NET Core to one
> equivalent to other in-distro languages without requiring the
> use of third-party repositories, especially when the runtime is
> needed as a dependency of another package.

Any comments on the privacy issues mentioned here?:

http://dgl.cx/2020/08/dotnet-sdk-gdpr

Should this be a concern for inclusion into Debian main?

Would there be a way for Debian users to opt out of the telemetry by
default, before any information is sent?

Cheers,
Andy



Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 09:37:01AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-06-26 at 08:34 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > Other procesors aren't bug-free, they just don't get as many bug fixes.
> 
> And the fixes aren't documented publicly at all.

Similar to the time I was affected by problems with all Intel s3610
and s3710 SSDs which they spent a few weeks denying existed and then
said was fixed in a firmware update whose release notes do not
mention the issue. When pressed as to the details of the fix they
just apologised and said that there hadn't been time to include
mention of the problem in the release notes. Not even one line.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/77801?start=15&tstart=0

It was a big hit to my trust in Intel and I stopped buying s3610
SSDs after this, but I don't expect other manufacturers are any
better.

Cheers,
Andy



Re: Bug#656142: ITP: duff -- Duplicate file finder

2012-01-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 09:12:58AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> rdfind seems to be quickest one, but duff compares well with hardlink,
> which (see http://liw.fi/dupfiles/) was the fastest one I knew of in
> Debian so far.

Does anyone know of a duplicate file finder that can keep its
database of seen files in an on-disk database instead of RAM? When
looking for duplicates in a tree of hundreds of millions of files
this can otherwise require quite a lot of RAM.

Perhaps it can be worked around using lots of swap, but I would have
thought this could lead to other processes getting swapped out, when
generally I would rather that the duplicate finder just got slower
itself.

Cheers,
Andy


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Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005-11-18 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 12:48:30PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Ian Jackson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Stephen Frost writes ("Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time"):
> > > Then bounce it locally.  Duh.  No reason to force master to deal with
> > > the bounce messages you feel are 'right' to send.
> > 
> > I don't bounce it.  I reject it at SMTP time with a 4xx or 5xx code.
> 
> Congradulations!  You've found the problem!

You would prefer that Ian:

a) inflict bounce spam scatter on the forged from addresses in the
   malware and spam he doesn't want to accept delivery for; or

b) silently discards such mails resulting in the possibility of
   legitimate mail being lost; or

c) just accepts the spam/malware?

I'm guessing (b), with the reasoning that if he chooses to reject
mail that his system thinks is bad then it's his problem to deal
with any false positives.

However in this day and age of the unwanted ratio of email being
greater than the wanted ratio, any system which accepts a lot of
unwanted email and then fails to deal with the refusal to accept by
systems further down the line is in real trouble.  I do pretty much
the same as what Ian does, as I have explained, and so do many
others.  It's the best way to deal with such mail: don't accept
what you're not prepared to deal with.

Instead of either side in this debate saying "Not my problem, you
should do this..." how about reaching some compromise?  It sounds
like in the short term, Ian needs to discard some mail instead of
rejecting, and in the long term master needs to be able to cope with
this sort of thing.  The absolute worst thing to do is to start
generating bounces to these forged addresses however.

My 2p,
Andy


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Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005-11-16 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 02:51:10PM +, Tim Cutts wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2005, at 2:34 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > No: there is nothing "proper" about rejecting mail from a host
> > that you have configured to forward mail for you.
> 
> I can see where you're coming from, but it's unavoidable, isn't it?   
> Most of us probably have "accounts" which forward email to us, and  
> over which we have no control; for example in my case I have two, one  
> at debian.org, and one at Cambridge University (cantab.net), as well  
> as any number of mailing lists.  If those upstream sources are more  
> lax about spam than the downstream SMTP receiver (whether chiark or  
> something else) then this sort of thing is inevitable.o

Personally I have sa-exim SMTP reject viruses and high scoring spam,
but if the message has precedence "bulk" or "list" then I discard it
silently instead, in order to try and cut down on the number of
sitations where my users will infuriate hosts that forward mail to
them.  Many MLMs will automatically kick you off the lists if you
reject viruses they sent to you (hi, Phillipp Kern).

It's not possible to catch everything though (users can set up
forwards without my knowledge; they also can't predict which
addresses will get lots of spam/malware), neither would I expect to
be told I have to accept delivery of this email.  In an ideal world
both sides would be able to come to some arrangement that doesn't
involve blackholing.


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