Re: Debian goes big business?

1999-01-20 Thread Christian Lavoie
> To preserve a kind of user support, we should create a DUA, which
> would have to do some/all of the following:

> - Provide single user free of charge support through internet.
> (email/newsgroups/knowledge base/whatever)
> - Provide corporate support, at a cost (cause they think it's better
> to pay it anyway), with the usual things sucha thing includes
> (on-site, 24 hours a day, programmation capable team to adapt a
> product)
> - Work head-to-head against RedHat/Caldera/SuSE for publicity on
> Debian and promoting .deb packaging of things like
> StarOffice/WordPerfect
> - Certification of technicians proficient in installing
> Debian/scripting and maintaining of a Debian system.
> - Be rentable, so it can re-invest back in publicity.
> - Cannot influence Debian developers more than the Debian users it
> deserves would influence it. (Meaning, you don't pay programmers, but
> you can kindly ask them for a bugfixe/feature ;P )

Sorry replying to my own post, but how about the following:

- Paying guys to maintain deb packages, package unpackaged software? 
High-school/college students would appreciate a lot, IMHO. Although 
not highly rewarding, it does include some technical knowledge, and 
proves some proficiency in compiling and ocnfiguration of Debian 
systems.

Christian Lavoie





Re: Debian goes big business?

1999-01-20 Thread Christian Lavoie
DISCLAIMER: These are notes, and can have technical impossibilites 
(especially concerning '.deb'ianizing of StarOffice)

Ok, here's the sum up:

- Debian will lose its spirit if it goes itself for-profit.
- A for-profit corporation based on Debian itself will eventually try 
to influence/own it. (Consequences: See previous comment)

Bottom line: Debian should remain developer controlled.

To preserve a kind of user support, we should create a DUA, which 
would have to do some/all of the following:

- Provide single user free of charge support through internet. 
(email/newsgroups/knowledge base/whatever)
- Provide corporate support, at a cost (cause they think it's better 
to pay it anyway), with the usual things sucha thing includes 
(on-site, 24 hours a day, programmation capable team to adapt a 
product)
- Work head-to-head against RedHat/Caldera/SuSE for publicity on 
Debian and promoting .deb packaging of things like 
StarOffice/WordPerfect
- Certification of technicians proficient in installing 
Debian/scripting and maintaining of a Debian system.
- Be rentable, so it can re-invest back in publicity.
- Cannot influence Debian developers more than the Debian users it 
deserves would influence it. (Meaning, you don't pay programmers, but 
you can kindly ask them for a bugfixe/feature ;P )

Bottom line: Co-operative society/stores based on users, democratic 
voting, no shareholding, all votes equals.

On a side note, if a user-based co-operative society forms, would a 
developer-based society of the same kind be appreciated? It could for 
an example provide acquisition of patents (basically, to GPLized them) 
and work to allow developers for better recognition, allow to access 
better resources (like an equivalent to a membership to W3C, or other 
reserved to corporation bodies thingies.) and tries to augment 
developer communication and tries to 'enforce' major headings of the 
dist. (Like, say, we're switching to libc7)

Christian Lavoie