Re: Hello.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 03:37:14AM +0300, Nir Peled woke up, and decided to spew forth: I'm SURE you'll have a lot more *customers* If you'll add KDE3.0.3 (Released few days ago) I'm also idleing in your server on the OPN network, And if you'll join #debian in there you'll see the request for Newer KDE Is big. No one likes to compile from source (Which can make a dependencies problems). So, I know I don't really count for you, but It'll be very nice if you'll release an update to KDE. While this is true, you have to bear in mind both the development cycle timeline as well as the level of bug hunting that takes place in Debian GNU/Linux. Just because the latest and greatest was released the day before does not entitle it to immediate inclusion in Debian. It has a slew of bug testing to go through before it even makes it into the *testing* branch, never mind the stable branch. This is the defining line between Debian and most other distributions. Most other distributions will auto include the latest and greatest with *very* little bug testing (ther than sufficient testing to get it to at least install), whereas Debian GNU/Linux does extensive testing and bug collection *before* it's released. Unstable is the first stop of any application into the Debian stream. Once it's in Unstable, it will be eligible for pipelining further into the system once it's been extensively tested and battered into shape. -- David D.W. Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Upstream - libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com Debian - Woody: 0.5.2-3 Sid: 0.5.2-5 State - bugs.debian.org/libpam-pgsql The price of Free Software is Eternal Literacy. I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. Deloris Clayborn pgpWfIeGQEnzq.pgp Description: PGP signature
David D.W. Downey - libpam-pgsql Maintainer/Upstream (Status Update)
Evening ladies and gents, OK, I know I've been an on again/off again maintainer so far. Unfortunately, that trend will continue for a bit longer. (even longer than *I* expected). I've had quite a few In Real Life problems surface that are demanding 100% of my time at the moment. (I don't even have net access on consistent basis yet.) I finally made the move from Susanville, CA USA to Buffalo, NY USA. In the process of the move, several life altering issues cropped up. First, it's become necessary for me to start and extremely involved court process to force the mother of one of my children to recognize paternl standing. (Long involvedissue where I just found out I had a daughter I never knew existed. All I'm willing to state on a public forum). The final issue, however, is of a much larger caliber and could vastly affect my online status and my work with Debian and libpam-pgsql. (Yes, I fully recognize and accept that my record for stability has not been the best so far as it is.) Those of you that I talk to privately know I've been having medical problems as of late. Well, the doctors at the Veterans Hospital have explained why I've been so sick lately. Seems, I have colon cancer. I'm not willing to just walk away from Debian, libpam-pgsql, or any future pacakges I may be graced with the care of. However, until these two monumental issues in my life both allow me some semblance of mental equilibrium, and time to concentrate on other issues I find myself unable to manage. Anyone out there willing to do NMUs, please do so with my blessings, with 2 caveats. 1) No drastic changes to the core functionality (aka no rewrites). Bug fixes for what's on the BTS right now and future security patches to any popup issues is fine. Several people have written patches that have not been incorporated and tested, and they've emailed my consistently about it privately. To them I say, your voice has not gone unnoticed. Life just has not been dealing a workable hand at the present time. Your time and effort will be rewarded. 2) No deleting or changing out of the dependancy of pam-pgsql on mhash/mhash2, as the FreeBSD maintainer has requested. I'm not opposed to the change *after* much more careful consideration, and indepth talks between myself and him occur. Not to mention the required (to me) discourse of such a fundamental change in the package on the debian-devel list among interested parties. I'm hoping to be back online within a month or two. I'm also hoping to be capable of working on these issues and others by then, though I make no promises at all. (The cancer issue alone decries that capability). I will be monitoring my email sporatically (even more so than before, unfortunately), but I will try to answer. Thanks for understanding folks. I truly do want to help with Debian. I do believe in the Social Contract and the potential for honest, open source, high quality software to affect a change for good in man's technological evolution. I agree and accept that my participation up to now has been rather spotty. I can only say that I plan to change that, once I stabilize my life. -- David D.W. Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Upstream - libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com Debian - Woody: 0.5.2-3 Sid: 0.5.2-5 State - bugs.debian.org/libpam-pgsql The price of Free Software is Eternal Literacy. I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. Deloris Clayborn pgp740XoZ909y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: because it isn't said enough
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 April 2002 01:24, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 10:41:54PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, I would just like to remind people to occasionally send a thank you to those out there who make your day go by. It really goes a long way to helping us devel types deal with life. Thanks for reminding me! From the Acknowledgements section of my recent thesis: A big collective thanks to all those who wrote and keep Linux, Debian and TeX and friends running; without them, this thesis would have had to be typed on a typewriter and the symbols written in by hand. Julian Yes, a tremendous thank you to all those that have helped make Debian the distribution that it is. The quality and effort is what made me leave Red Hat and Slackware for this. For that, thank you. I'm glad to be involved with a project like this simply because of the quality of the people and the projects they provide. - -- David D.W. Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] libpam-pgsql Debian Maintainer Upstream Source http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vN3fJRhrFsWna/YRAsWuAJ4+opArsP0/16ws7b8xoaYgaN38HwCfftCb Pg2IolhH+4B6QmKfMN1UBIY= =y0hm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 April 2002 00:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably Geforce4 (usable with the nonfree Nvidia-driver on 4.1.*) or some Laptop-Chipset (Savage-something?) Well, so much for me going after 4.2 on my own then. I've got an nVidia GX200 4X AGP, basicly the same family. Then again, while I do bust Branden's nuts on the debian-devel channel about wanting 4.2, he knows I'm joking. Perfectly content with 4.1.x. Branden, rockin job bro, fuck what anyone else says. - -- David D.W. Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] libpam-pgsql Debian Maintainer Upstream Source http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vN/cJRhrFsWna/YRAko0AJ4gzMrw63eiZEGba9kT/f5HJMJ1OACfUNKw bzj+VL1/ltAeInv0s7/aUH4= =2YaA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 17 April 2002 03:59, Russell Coker wrote: You didn't use nearly enough obscenity to describe Lasse's behaviour! I didn't want to hurt his little head with all the big words. Also the structure of your message was lacking, you used two swear-words and two offensive terms, of which only one swear word was used more than once. This leads a casual observer to the conclusion that your vocabulary is lacking. I recommend not using a particular swear word or offensive term more than once per paragraph, and for variety I suggest introducing a new term of offense in every paragraph. Dronal tonage seemed to be something I thought he might understand. I'd hate to use something like Anal Retentive Slut-puppy only to get an email back like Umm what does Anal mean? Finally abuse without using offensive terms is good (eg reference to the glue Lasse sniffed before posting to Debian-devel). Ok, got me cold on that one. Hmm. so is it considered good taste to use terms like buttmunching 5 cent excretement of a 10 cent gutter whore? Please make amends for your error by flaming Lasse again and doing it properly. ;) Ok, I'll try, not sure if his vocabulary is of sufficient quality to get the gist of it, but I'll give it a go. - -- David D.W. Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] libpam-pgsql Debian Maintainer Upstream Source http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vVqaJRhrFsWna/YRAmdyAJwOFhSBFV4LzVpkq2YG0JiMP0Ls+wCcCj/m 1hxVWv0M3+XnaLYw3wryaaw= =JYiI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please test this woody cd image
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 12 April 2002 12:49, Matt Zimmerman wrote: I tested the isolinux boot image on 3 random workstations (Dell and HP) as well as an IBM ThinkPad T21. All of them worked fine with both idepci and bf24 kernels. Also tried on a PIII-450 i686 + 256MB RAM Worked fine for me. - -- David D.W. Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] libpam-pgsql Debian Maintainer Upstream Source http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8t0sJJRhrFsWna/YRAvNxAJ4u3PyIamSM057pEdToyquDVkNtoQCeJ98I vrXW98sypw9sHQgVZBtfbtI= =6rRX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/ptmx suid root tty device file - Who owns this?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:12:05PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 05:51:30AM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote: [PGP-signed message] Where is this key (C5A76BF6) available for download, neither keyservers, nor http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/debian-devel-200112/msg02249.html nor http://linuxnewbie.codecastle.com/david-downey-publickey.asc holds it. cu andreas My fault, I forgot to post to the keyservers. linuxnewbie shou;l.d be updated now as should libpgsl -- David D.W. Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Upstream - libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com Debian - Woody: 0.5.2-2 Sid: 0.5.2-3 State - bugs.debian.org/libpam-pgsql -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org mQGiBDyvwRcRBACH5M/fUVvXh0SvhvmkMbKcIvHaBD32O+xKMWponbIbcOvChMU0 KBHnUzCsypwfTMKZpdpIsDyUTmbGo19Zm0+1kVcP5esZles1Ffi9Mply1HKMHLIT y0/uGvFG+79hVL+YndsMDtxn/O5dN7kXA08ymyvkVhPTH/u4frU0qz6kkwCglngM j8eEg7Tk3Xkkob9kI2gmsoED/iV6mxfR008Lm/fOKIfCucCbj5szTyt7Z8qvwoFP rfbVp7W0u+nXqTPl+OeyiUeeIa8GLu+MJ1SCHMwMmF19yFWbL/2op5JgP+GfzyYY aYEci8UQULqoifJnHlaFWCcW5hInX5dWFw76yfaVWgONWmMH3OwUs1leXcH/by0x 9YyvA/0ZJv15GS4lV+PysfG1T8Wz2Z+cOWLs8Cfc5Z+xloo9lkmWZqj1PoCOBb2U NHc7fEEd0ZsGUPhhSN+h6/iLfjwZ3VFj5PVTnDMD7GeZ4sdtxNrelTbd2zhhQXGY L9grtfY3FOTZx4A4JZfpUlfSifl9m7T5oHaTVxnzqaOlroMm87QvRGF2aWQgRC5X LiBEb3duZXkgPGRhdmlkLWRvd25leUBjb2RlY2FzdGxlLmNvbT6IXQQTEQIAHQUC PK/BFwUJBaOagAULBwoDBAMVAwIDFgIBAheAAAoJECUYaxbFp2v2+dIAnA4RgZi+ 8tPzE308M4wYkbAZOdXLAJ9Md3UhSjPjMofWw2e20Z56ZNKXyLkCDQQ8r8FnEAgA /i984rLJwsTH+eXwOZmBmLc69Wt8Ngr6lkCtZQmYwYajeGwLkWf6Q+0ijNqB+i8n 5o1LRaTib1MezCv0VIbgQXXg3mNmc57La9UzBpzet4LZC+GEiY09lwZ75YMG03sx ZyXCfTWYYjG5MsohF2ZFutgvHYhWe+jKF8yXHIKA3YwhQIDNkQ7Rhvns/MiStBjC AfpWW3UDE0vAkhiuBVluXFtxXR7Nhu/seEWsQydZ84lYYpWKSq4MPpeZ3g3eoU62 cnR58xcBPuTK3LEc/WyJ2EmREpuaR2pxO8xw0nAkQ2bN6cRdbbO6dgGf+snt/5KY rqC+PTI+pcuQj+no3nEytwADBQgAr7vVhoX2J9V+W5aoo3uwt8M17TxrwqGyxm3H nELJjsLWGXmfT2RFyrCpwueSd5hXOSA0nHozFq0R42c3gJHHhPeWAmzuRDsZdBQ8 XMxCl4OS5g1f4Iu+oiHx/C1NOj6k3BtRdc7I8rbdDLCFzz6RAzMYVa0KVG6Q5Saf tqKe8EthGqy/TPpNS9ssggss2cgWCq90fii5Hv/NEUHe8kXNMSFkcdeNaQn+a3Sc jnbPqcd1pX+LiwYXi9yYVsKqz5Na0Kln5tSbp+IgvAVFRe54GSebTJePv7M4mJp3 nZMEzoqxW8wLAKQ5ynbnaWybIrTHaZkOoNBMfn53m2CAk9iBoYhMBBgRAgAMBQI8 r8FnBQkFo5qAAAoJECUYaxbFp2v2g0MAn3r9V0zHQnL2U/xs0Iympq+3QW3gAJ0a 3G0BsITueoFqCvHqDXRvTcZgRw== =sD1G -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
New GNUPG Key for David D.W. Downey
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Why was libpam-pgsql removed from the woody lineup?
Just wondering why libpam-pgsql was removed from the woody lineup. As of libpam-pgsql-0.5.2-3, libpam-pgsql has been built against libpgsql2, not libpgsql2.1. Also, CJ Watson erroneously filed a bug against that version simply because it depended on libpgsql. He erroneously assumed that that meant it must be dependant on libpgsql2.1 As the following output shows, 0.5.2-3 depends on 2.7.2. Since libpam-pgsql-0.5.2-3 was a fix for the libpgsql2.1 problem, why has this not been pushed into woody for the current release? There are no RC bugs against it and there is only a single Important bug filed against it. (#138602: libpam-pgsql: error in manual) There is also one Normal bug filed against it, for better password handling with minimal impact on it's overall function. Could someone please explain to me why 0.5.2-3 will not be available for the woody release since it was a fix for the 0.5.2-2 version which was yanked from woody due to it's dependancy on libpgsql2.1 which libpam-pgsql-0.5.2-3 fixes? (SCREEN OUTPUT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache showpkg libpam-pgsql Package: libpam-pgsql Versions: 0.5.2-3(/var/lib/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_unstable_non-US_main_binary-i386_Packages) Reverse Depends: libnss-pgsql1,libpam-pgsql Dependencies: 0.5.2-3 - libc6 (2 2.2.4-4) libmhash2 (0 (null)) libpam0g (2 0.72-1) libpgsql2 (2 7.2) Provides: 0.5.2-3 - Reverse Provides: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ (END SCREEN OUTPUT) David D.W. Downey libpam-pgsql Maintainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: gpg -e errors - All garbled output
Hehe, meant to send an email earlier than this. Realised my mistake later on. -- David D.W. Downey (pgpkeys) [EMAIL PROTECTED] libpam-pgsql Home Site: http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com Newbies: http://linuxnewbie.codecastle.com Admins: http://admin.codecastle.com Developers: http://devel.codecastle.com http://lfs.codecastle.com -Original Message- From: Alan Shutko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:25 PM To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gpg -e errors - All garbled output [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if my locale is causing it or what. The problem is that as soon as I try to gpg -e to edit a key I get the following junk. [23:24:22] wesley:~ $ gpg --help|grep -e -e -e, --encryptencrypt data -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In a variety of flavors! BE ALOOF! (There has been a recent population explosion of lerts.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anybody want to adopt cdrecord?
I do plan on doing a maintiner release shortly. I'm in the middle of moving though. That's what the delay is about. Plese just give me some time to complete this move. (tough trying to move an entire house) I apologize for the delay. -- David D.W. Downey (pgpkeys) [EMAIL PROTECTED] libpam-pgsql Home Site: http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com Newbies: http://linuxnewbie.codecastle.com Admins: http://admin.codecastle.com Developers: http://devel.codecastle.com http://lfs.codecastle.com -Original Message- From: Adam Byrtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:12 PM To: Erik Andersen; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Anybody want to adopt cdrecord? On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 04:32:48AM -0700, Erik Andersen wrote: After a bit of discussion on availability of the needed cdwriting equipment, etc. I have agreed to let David Downey take over maintainence of cdrtools. Thanks David! I'm sure everyone will be grateful as you fix the bugs I've not had time to address, What's going on with cdrecord? The maintaner hasn't changed yet, and there is a big bug in it (important, but i'm thinking about upgrading it to critical): #131325: cdrecord: crashes on 2.2.20 It *has* to be fixed before Woody! In fact I'm still using old (1.9-1) cdrecord because of this bug... Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _.|._ |_ _.: Adam Byrtek, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (_|||_)| |(_|: gg 1802819, pgp 0xB25952C0 | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anybody want to adopt cdrecord?
Looks like it doesn't matter anymore. I've been removed as the new maitnainer by erik due to the 2 week delay. Once again, I apologize for the delay on the package but it couldn't be helped. Hopefully I can assist on some other package. -- David D.W. Downey (pgpkeys) [EMAIL PROTECTED] libpam-pgsql Home Site: http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com Newbies: http://linuxnewbie.codecastle.com Admins: http://admin.codecastle.com Developers: http://devel.codecastle.com http://lfs.codecastle.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
