Re: Intent to package: device3dfx

1999-05-19 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:04:18PM +0100, Steve Haslam wrote:
> Hi people,
> 
> device3dfx is a kernel module to allow user-space applications (quake
> :}) access to 3Dfx cards without needing to be run as root.
> 
> This package consists *only* of a GPL'd kernel module. As such it can
> IMHO go into main. It could be argued that you can only use it via the
> Glide libraries, which aren't free at all, and it should therefore go
> into contrib. This point may need discussion.

This is the same problem of KDE: you cannot redistribute GPL code linked
against non GPL code. This has 2 effect:

1) this code is completely non-free (it's impossible to redistribute it)
2) if you produce a package you are violating the copyright.

The upstream authore would can modify the license, but this is possible only
if the upstream author did'nt use ANY kernel code.


> 
> Notes:
> 
> /dev/3dfx -- needs to be created. If this package is accepted, support
> for it should go into MAKEDEV, as opposed to doing a mknod in the
> postinst (which lintian complains about).
> 
> The packaging is based on pcmcia-cs, and I hope it will work with
> make-kpkg in the same way. I don't use make-kpkg, so I haven't
> *really* checked, but "debian/rules kdist" seems to do the right
> thing.
> 
> device3dfx, the source package, comes with one binary package,
> device3dfx-source. This consists of docs and
> /usr/src/device3dfx.tar.gz, which then extracts to
> /usr/src/modules/device3dfx/..., which seems right. It can be used to
> generate device3dfx-modules-* packages.
> 
> SRH
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Slashdot on the KDE stance

1998-10-08 Thread Francesco Tapparo
Slashdot has posted an article about the decision to remove the KDE binaries
right now.

Francesco



tempfile and dependencies

1998-06-16 Thread Francesco Tapparo
I'm maintaining the scwm window manager, whose  scripts call the tempfile 
command. 'tempfile' is in the debianutils package, an Essential one, so a
Depends from debianutils wouldn't be needed; the problem is that only recent
debianutils packages come with tempfile. So my question is: must I add
Depends: debianutils (>> 1.6), or I'm guaranteed that will be upgraded the
essential packages first?
Is this bug-fix worthy of an hamm release?

thanks
Francesco


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figlet.el

1997-12-06 Thread Francesco Tapparo
I'm maintaining the figlet package. A user asked me to include the emacs
helper figlet.el in figlet. Where I must put it? It's Ok if I put it in a
emacs directory?

ciao

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Re: about CFLAGS

1997-11-30 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 02:19:24PM +0100, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> Francesco Tapparo:
> > I'm packaging scwm: my problem is that the makefiles of this program don't
> > work if a set CFLAGS externally (e.g. with: make CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall"). The
> > makefiles are created by configure. Is a such behaviour wrong, or I must set
> > the variables within configure? (I tried with ./configure CFLAGS="-O2 -g
> > -Wall", but without any positive results).
> 
> Did you try   CFLAGS="-O2 -g -Wall" ./configure?
>
Yes, so the pakage compile perfectly: thanks. Now I think that this is the 
right method of set the variables.

ciao

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Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-23 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 22, Lars Wirzenius wrote
> [ Please don't Cc: public replies to me. ]
> 
> Francesco Tapparo:
> > Of course ae will be used in the boot disks, but in the default
> > installation, joe must be the choiche, IMO.
> 
> This is a editor war. Please don't continue it.
> .

I apologize, if don't have explained well my concepts: I' don't want a
Joe-dependant debian. There are the facts: in a mail, Kai Henningsen said
that ae is the only user-friendly text-editor; I've answered that also Joe
is it. Here Joe is only an example.Than James Troub, in a _private_ email,
pointed out the fact that ae is 20K in size, and Joe 170K. Believing that
his mail was in debian-devel (my error), I've answered also there. But my
answer was only about his letter,that is obviously not int this list: the 
phrase "ae will be used in the boot disks, but in the default installation 
joe must be the choice" want say that, in the normal use, the 170K of Joe are 
not a problem; here I use the term joe because in the letter betwenn me and 
James Troub we speak about ae and joe but the same argument are suitable 
for ve,emacs,jed etc.
I hope that, with this my mail, the question will be resolved.

ciao
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Re: problems with debmake

1997-06-23 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 22, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote
> 
> Francesco,
> 
> Did you add your userid to the sudo group? 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> grep sudo /etc/group
> sudo:*:27:edd
> 
> Regards, Dirk
> 
Yes, I made it.

ciao
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Re: problems with debmake

1997-06-22 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 22, James Troup wrote
> Francesco Tapparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm working to packaging xdaliclock
> 
> Not for the main distribution I hope (bo/Packages):-
> 
> Package: xdaliclock
> Version: 2.07-2
> Priority: optional
> Section: x11
> Maintainer: Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Depends: elf-x11r6lib, libc5 (>= 5.2.18-1)
> Architecture: i386
> Filename: stable/binary-i386/x11/xdaliclock_2.07-2.deb
> msdos-filename: stable/msdos-i386/x11/xdalclck.deb
> Size: 27846
> MD5sum: aeb824d4c774ea994efc239a5c947b48
> Description: Melting digital clock
>  The xdaliclock program displays a digital clock; when a digit changes,
>  it "melts" into its new shape.
>  .
>  It can display in 12 or 24 hour modes, and displays the date when a
>  mouse button is held down.  It has two large fonts built into it, but
>  it can animate most other fonts that contain all of the digits.  It
>  can also do some funky psychedelic colormap cycling, and can use the
>  "shape" extension so that the window is shaped like the digits.
> 
> -- 
> James
> 

I've got the package from Martin Schulze. It's "unofficial", because I don't
have received yet an account on master.

thanks,
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problems with debmake

1997-06-22 Thread Francesco Tapparo
Hi,
  I'm working to packaging xdaliclock, but 've a problem with debmake:
I will use it with sudo, and the I've set my /etc/sudoers to 

# Cmnd alias specification
Cmnd_Alias DEBIAN_NEEDED=/usr/bin/debpkg,/usr/bin/build
# User privilege specification
rootALL=(ALL) ALL
cesco   ALL=/sbin/SVGATextMode,DEBIAN_NEEDED

but when I type build -rsudo as cesco I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Debian-project/xdaliclock-2.07$ build -rsudo
dpkg-buildpackage: source package is xdaliclock
dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 2.07-1
dpkg-buildpackage: source version is Francesco Tapparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
dpkg-buildpackage: build architecture is i386
 sudo debian/rules clean
 Sorry, user cesco is not allowed to execute "debian/rules clean" as root on
mizar.

I understand that adding debiuan/rules to the sudoers file will resolve my 
problem, but it would be dangerous, if my script would be wrong. Is this
step necessary, or I'm wrong?

Thanks for any answer
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Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-22 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 22, James Troup wrote
> Francesco Tapparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Joe is much better, IMO, and it's very newbie-friendly.
> 
> hades|14:07:32 ~ [507] $ls -l $(type -path joe) $(type -path ae)
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root23968 May  5 01:36 /bin/ae
> -rwxr-xr-x   5 root root   171916 Nov 24  1996 /usr/bin/joe

Of course ae will be used in the boot disks, but in the default
installation, joe must be the choiche, IMO.

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Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-22 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 22, Kai Henningsen wrote
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Hudon)  wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Newbies should *not* be dumped into vi by default. It's just too
> > user-hostile.
> 
> There's only one text mode editor that's not just as user-hostile, and  
> that's ae. That one seems to be completely unacceptable as a default to  
> most non-newbies.
> 

Joe is much better, IMO, and it's very newbie-friendly.

> Now what?
> 
> I think vi is indeed the right solution. People expect vi with Unix, and  
> if they want to configure something different, they always can.

I think that our default configuration must be newbie-friendly: if a expert
user will change the configuration, he will make it with no trouble.

> If you want to have something as idiot-accessible as Windows (note: I'm  
> not talking about system configuration here - that one is a nightmare on  
> Windows!), then you need to do everything in the GUI. In that case, it's  
> completely irrelevant what is the default text mode editor.

There are many newbie, that use Linux without X, for memory problems or for
taste questions: they're a "market" important for Linux, IMO.

. snip 

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Re: libc6

1997-06-11 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 11, Michael Meskes wrote
> I've recompiled some programs that use X with libc6 and they run like a
> charm. A few minutes ago I recompiled the latest procps suite for
> testing purposes. For instance xload:
> 
> gauss:meskes 113) ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/xload
> libXaw.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95/libXaw.so.6 (0x4001)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40065000)
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40077000)
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400b9000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x400c2000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400d7000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400e2000)
> libproc.so.1.12 => /lib/libproc.so.1.12 (0x40182000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40193000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
> gauss:meskes 114) 
> 
> Michael
> 
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> >-Original Message-
> >From:Francesco Tapparo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent:Wednesday, June 11, 1997 1:29 PM
> >To:  debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> >Cc:  Die Adresse des Empfängers ist unbekannt.
> >Subject: libc6
> >
> >Hi,
> >I'm working on the xdaliclock package, and I will take it to libc6. I have
> >merely recompiled it, and all has worked fine, except perhaps some warning
> >(perhaps present with libc5: I have not installed alt-libc5 as yet). This is
> >suspect to me, because my X libs are compiled with libc5, and in this list
> >I've read that ncurses (simpler than X libs) give problems with libc6 
> >in compile time. Perhaps I'dont have understand well the problem: can you
> >explain it to me?

there is a risk that at runtime xdaliclock will broke sometime? If so, the
better upload is to unstable or to project/experimental?

ciao
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libc6

1997-06-11 Thread Francesco Tapparo
Hi,
I'm working on the xdaliclock package, and I will take it to libc6. I have
merely recompiled it, and all has worked fine, except perhaps some warning
(perhaps present with libc5: I have not installed alt-libc5 as yet). This is
suspect to me, because my X libs are compiled with libc5, and in this list
I've read that ncurses (simpler than X libs) give problems with libc6 
in compile time. Perhaps I'dont have understand well the problem: can you
explain it to me?

ciao
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Re: new mantainer

1997-06-10 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 9, Bruce Perens wrote
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> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Bruce
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> 
done, thanks.

ciao
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new mantainer

1997-06-09 Thread Francesco Tapparo
Hi,
   I'm reading this list from some time, and now I think I'm ready for my first 
package; I've read that Martin Schulze is finding a new mantainer for his 
xdaliclock package. If Martin agrees, I can take the mantainance of the 
xdaliclock package.

ciao
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