HELP!! binaries not executed (fwd)

1998-10-08 Thread G. Kapetanios


This email explains the problems I had with
my deleted root partition
George 

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:04:46 +0100 (BST)
From: "G. Kapetanios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!! binaries not executed (fwd)

On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 01:12:30PM +0100, G. Kapetanios wrote:
> > 
> > > What kernel are you running?
> > it is debian 1.0 kernel 2.0.0 (the only disks that would work)
> > 
> > > What shell are you using (and from what dist)?
> > the initial shell of debian i think ash and then bash from debian 1.0
> > > Have you run e2fsck on the partition?
> > 
> > yes no errors reported
> > i was thinking it may help if i check the hidden characteristics of the
> > files in /usr.
> > As i remember (i am at work now ) if i copy the file to / it still does
> > not work if i copy a file from / to /usr it works 
> > 
> > > 
> > > BTW, I've had no problems with current boot dists, is that the only thing
> > > stopping you reinstalling the entire system?
> > yes i tried the final bo disks but the disks were not reliable and i cant 
> > find them on the net any more. i tried the hamm july 21 1998 
> > both from floppies and hard disk
> > there seems to a problem in base2_0 for my system. error goes by too 
> > quickly to see i think it has something to do with a file not found 
> > could be connected to the other problem, i guess.
> > thanks very much for your help 
> > hope you can give me some advice. 
> > george 
> 
> 
> Sorry for the delay, was on the phone to the gf (geez she can talk!)
> 
> Now, from my guess I'd say that the kernel you are using does not support
> ELF binaries (I haven't verified this, it's just a guess - I'll check
> later).  I think this especially as you can copy a file into usr and
> still execute it, which means a problem with the file type (The only other
> possiblity is if the binaries in /usr/ are ALL corrupted - very unlikely.
> If you want to check this send me a binary (say less) with your next mail).
> 
> I would suggest updating the kernel.  Now, there are two ways of going...
> you can try to update the system by install 2.0, which means we'll have to
> deal with the error mentioned above, or you can try to install a new kernel.
> 
> To install a new kernel, try downloading a precompiled kernel, putting this
> on your root partition, and pointing lilo to it (I assume you know how to
> do that?  If not let me know).  I think you can get a debian package
> containing a precompiled kernel (but it's a new package format, you'd have
> to extract the image from it) or I can send you one if you like.  An even
> better solution is to use another machine to compile one.  Id say to use 
> kernel 2.0.3x (although it doesn't really matter).
> 
> 
> Otherwise we can try and fix that error, in which case you'll need to tell
> me *exactly* what steps you went through during your attempted install.
> (ie.  where got the files from, what installation media your using, where
> you put the base2_0.tgz file, what options you use in the installation tool,
> etc, etc).

Thanks very much for your help.
Now I would rather go for the debian 2.0 installation so that I can avoid
the problematic libc5-libc6 upgrade. The story is as follows 
Two days ago I had installed the bo disks ok. But I made a stupid (yet
another ) mistake I had the system installed on /dev/hda4 which should be
/usr and not on /dev/hda3 which is normally my / 
Then i had a lilo.con pointing to /dev/hda3 and therefore I could boot
from the floppy but not from the disk. I tried installing the hamm disks
from the second hard disk.  (I have the debian hamm disks and distribution
in /dev/hdc2 and /dev/hdc3  The critical stuff I do not want to lose re in
/dev/hdc1 All these partitions seem ok I don't want to access them too
often in case something goes wrong.)
The installation broke down at the base2_0.tgz stage with an error
similar to that I have now (but not the saem I think) This was probably
becasue of the / /usr mixup 
 When i
realised the e / /usr mixup I decided to reinstall from scratch
rather than copy the
files 
because i thought the t the system.map e.t.c. would have to chnage 
 But the bo disks would not work now (disks corrupted) (very unluckI could
download t

Re: HELP!! binaries not executed (fwd)

1998-10-08 Thread G. Kapetanios

On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Santiago Vila wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, G. Kapetanios wrote:
> 
> > I have installed an old debian 1.0 system in / 
> > and I have all my hamm stuff in /usr 
> > Is this a libc5 / libc6 problem?
> 
> An old Debian 1.0 system? Does your kernel support ELF binaries?
sorry 1.1.
the kernel is 2.0.0

thanks for your help

> 
> ( BTW: Debian 1.0 never existed, could you clarify this?
>   See /etc/debian_version ).
> 
> -- 
>  "cbfbaab3704dc2dd44638a38f111d0b3" (a truly random sig)
> 
> 

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Re: HELP!! binaries not executed (fwd)

1998-10-08 Thread G. Kapetanios




On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 11:02:51AM +0100, G. Kapetanios wrote:
> > 
> > My question is a result of problems explained in another email.
> > They concer a deleded root partition. My question has to do with 
> > binaries which are there can be seen can be read but cannot be executed.
> > 
> > for example
> > # /usr/bin/less
> > /usr/bin/less : No such file o directory 
> > The same happens to all binaries in /usr
> > which is a mounted partition
> > Tosummarise the setup
> > I have installed an old debian 1.0 system in / 
> > and I have all my hamm stuff in /usr 
> > Is this a libc5 / libc6 problem
> > 
> > 
> 
> Is this an nfs share?  Have you tried using exec option when mounting?
> 
> Chris
> 


I mount the /usr partition by
 mount -t ext2 /dev/hda4 /usr
IT is not nfs
it is not mounted automatically on boot through /etc/fstab

> 
> 

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boot floppies (july 21 1998) error ? (fwd)

1998-10-08 Thread G. Kapetanios


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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:35:56 +0100 (BST)
From: "G. Kapetanios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: boot floppies (july 21 1998)  error ?


I am wondering whether the boot floppies in curent are ok. 
the rescue disk and drivers isk is working fine but when the base system
gets installed and after all the floppies have been read (so no floppy
eliability issue) the installation exits with an error. 
The same happens when installation from hard disk is carried out.
Has something drastic chnged in those boot floppies

Is there any other set of floppies which are reliable and I can try?
I am trying to install a current system because after root partition 
was deleted I have installed a Debian 1.0 system from old disks
Any help would be really, really appreciated 

George 

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HELP!! binaries not executed (fwd)

1998-10-08 Thread G. Kapetanios


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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:30:25 +0100 (BST)
From: "G. Kapetanios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: HELP!! binaries not executed



My question is a result of problems explained in another email.
They concer a deleded root partition. My question has to do with 
binaries which are there can be seen can be read but cannot be executed.

for example
# /usr/bin/less
/usr/bin/less : No such file o directory 
The same happens to all binaries in /usr
which is a mounted partition
Tosummarise the setup
I have installed an old debian 1.0 system in / 
and I have all my hamm stuff in /usr 
Is this a libc5 / libc6 problem


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more trouble with deleted root partition please help !!!!! (fwd)

1998-10-08 Thread G. Kapetanios

Really sorry for any dupplication but I am desperate. Te broken machine is
critical. Thr next two email give more info

I would really appreciate any help. 
For people in and around London if this doesn't work out I am willing to
pay to
restore my machine

George 

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:38:01 +0100 (BST)
From: "G. Kapetanios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: more trouble with deleted root partition please help !


I have manage to salvage a minimal system after accidentally deleting my
root partitioon. I tried to install debian stable but it did not work. 
I did floppy disk installation butfloppy relaiobility does not seem to be
the problem. Let me explain why I have the debian disks on an unharmed
partiotin which I can access. However the file base2.0_... produces an
errror 
on my system it goes away too fast to read it. Obviously the same error
appear with floppies even  when I re-downloaded the floppies from the net. 
I am using july 21 1998 floppies is there a problem with thith those ? 

Anyway I installed a debian 1.0 ( yes !!) from some old floppies
The installation went ok. I have the distribution in a 
another partiton and I tried to use dselect but the Package file had a
problem and  dpkg does not work.  I can solve the problem only if I could 
run program from my /usr partiton which I can access
This is the second problem I can see the binary 
I can cat the binary but I can't run it 
# /usr/bin/less 
/usr/bin/less: No such file or dicrectory

Any ideas ?
George 

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