Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

2017-05-18 Thread Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra
One local team of BSP Debian paris ask me to propose a new webiste.
i did :)

If it fit to any use you need, i'm happy, if not, i'm happy to help in fit
it better :)
Elisa

2017-05-18 16:54 GMT+02:00 Sean Whitton :

> Hello Elisa,
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 03:14:49PM +0200, Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra
> wrote:
> > To finish this website we need :
> > - the text to present stretch to news user to debian (who do ?)
>
> Are you suggesting this as a "Get Stretch" website, similar to
> ?
>
> This thread has been about replacing the whole debian.org website.
>
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Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

2017-05-18 Thread Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra
Thanks,

To finish this website we need :
- the text to present stretch to news user to debian (who do ?)
- more ilustration to be more firendly and attractive (i can do)
- official publication after official approval from community :)
- a available deadline to help in organization ^^'

2017-05-18 15:06 GMT+02:00 Sean Whitton :

> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 02:37:33PM +0200, Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra
> wrote:
> > I participate to the BSP debian meeting in paris last week end.
> > I propose a little webpage.
> > https://gitlab.com/yemanjalisa/debianstretchwebsite
> >
> > I would love finish this work to fit for your need.
> > I dit it very quickly on last sunday in collaboration with the all local
> team.
>
> This is really nice.  Thank you for contributing.
>
> It's a great idea to use the branding of the latest stable release for
> the splash (though I guess the existing website does that too).
>
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When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

2017-05-18 Thread Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra
Hi,

My name is elisa, Sorry for my english...

I participate to the BSP debian meeting in paris last week end.
I propose a little webpage.
https://gitlab.com/yemanjalisa/debianstretchwebsite

I would love finish this work to fit for your need.
I dit it very quickly on last sunday in collaboration with the all local
team.

I would be happy to help anyone or take in charge this task.


Elisa



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On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 11:19 +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> On 14 May 2017 at 11:58, lumin  wrote:
> > On the other hand, I fancy modern platforms such
> > as Gitlab, as a user. And wondering when Debian
> > will update its homepage (www.d.o) to a modern
> > design[1].
> >
> > [1] This is off-thread, but some of my young
> > friends just gave up trying Debian at the
> > first glance at our homepage.
>
> off-thread, yes. But please spawn another thread to talk about this
> real issue.

> Our users are really complaining about our look&feel in the web and
> we
> should address it.

I'm looking forward to a new design of our homepage, but I'm not
able to help since not familiar to this field.

Take a look at the homepages of major distros:
https://www.archlinux.org/https://www.centos.org/https://www.opensuse.org/https://manjaro.org/https://www.ubuntu.com/https://getfedora.org/https://linuxmint.com/https://gentoo.org/

Especially look at the homepage of Gentoo. Some of you must
remember the old gentoo homepage, but now gentoo has a way much
prettier face. Then look at ours
https://www.debian.org/

We are the last major distro that move to systemd as the
default init system. And now we are the last major distro
that keeps an old design of homepage.

Debian is a community that driven by volunteers. I believe
volunteers are working hard for community at the points
they are interested in. I guess, possibly there are too few
volunteers able/intend to update the design, so the homepage is
just kept as is.

If none of the volunteers is willing to contribute a new
design, what about spend some money to hire several worker
working on this. neilm pointed out that we don't know how
to spend our money at Debconf16, that we don't know how
to spend our money. Making the community better is a good
reason for doing so, since a modern design may
attract more users/contributors, and is less likely to scare
newbies away ...

Even if Debian is ranked number 2 at distrowatch.

Elisa de Castro Guerra



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Bug#389201: ITP: chillispot -- Wireless LAN Access Point Controller

2006-09-24 Thread Rudy Godoy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Rudy Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: chillispot
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Jens Jakobsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.chillispot.org/
* License : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Wireless LAN Access Point Controller

 ChilliSpot is an open source captive portal or wireless LAN access point
 controller. It supports web based login which is today's standard for
 public HotSpots and it supports Wireless Protected Access (WPA) which
 is the standard of the future. Authentication, Authorization and
 Accounting (AAA) is handled by your favorite radius server. Read more
 on http://www.chillispot.org

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-2-powerpc
Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-08-24 Thread Rudy Godoy
El día 24/08/2006 a 11:25 Michelle Konzack escribió...

> Am 2006-07-28 13:35:30, schrieb Katrina Jackson:
> 
> > You say Ubuntu has better publicity, which it does.  But why is this the
> > case?  I know Mark has more money, but since you have so many programmers,
> 
> He is Miliardaire (TV interview and his own words).
> 
> > and seem so passionate about your OS, why aren't you as successful getting
> > publicity?  I'm not accusing anyone.  I guess I just really would like to
> > know:
> 
> Do we need publicity of tens of million Euros?
> 
> > A.)  Could Debian do anything to get better publicity and change people's
> > perceptions.  (For instance, if Debian is so more "well build" then Ubuntu
> > why don't the press keep mentioning this?
> 
> Do you want to pay the making of such publicity?
> Ubuntu/Canonical is commercial while Debian is a volunter
> organization.

I do believe it's more a matter of relations with press and media than
budget. We have no easy-way-to-get-it to tell people why they would want to
use Debian. Ubuntu, on the other hand, has achieved to do so, and what they
tell that we can't? nothing. All what they advertise we do offer. But we
are not good on advertise our OS.

We need to tell people: Debian is fine for you because it allows you to
get your work done and be productive, whether you are an artist,
corporate employee, student, doctor, etc.

(I didn't mention computer savy people since we are well known there,
so why advertise for them, if we have an important "market share" on
that segment?).

That kind of advertisement, focusing on things that matter for people
more than specs and technical details, which are only interesting for
those who already in the computing area.
I know there is a subproject working on such things, which is great.

> 
> > B.)  Why hasn't more been done?  Why isn't there any major reports by like
> > PC World which say "Ubuntu is top 100 products, but man if you want a better
> > distro, more well built etc.. you should check out Debian.
> 
> Because Ubunto pay for ranking?  ;-)

No, I still believe we need more people and relations with press, and
not only the technical ones, we should advertise more our work and
good experiences like donzka, LinEx, and the others. Not only tell
ourselves: we know we are doing things better. We should tell it to
others too!

regards

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Bug#309863: ITP: xfce4-fsguard-plugin -- filesystem monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel

2005-05-19 Thread Rudy Godoy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: xfce4-fsguard-plugin
  Version : 0.2.0
  Upstream Author : Andre Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/
* License : BSD
  Description : filesystem monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel

 The fsguard plugin checks free space on a chosen mountpoint
 frequently and displays an alarm if free space is less than
 given alarm limit.
 .
 Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc
Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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Bug#309862: ITP: xfce4-cpugraph-plugin -- cpu load grap plugin for the Xfce4 panel

2005-05-19 Thread Rudy Godoy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: xfce4-cpugraph-plugin
  Version : 0.2.2
  Upstream Author : Alexander Nordfelth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/
* License : BSD
  Description : cpu load grap plugin for the Xfce4 panel

 The cpugraph plugin displays a graph from your latest systemload.
 .
 Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc
Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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Bug#309860: ITP: xfce4-genmon-plugin -- Generic Monitor for the Xfce4 panel

2005-05-19 Thread Rudy Godoy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: xfce4-genmon-plugin
  Version : 1.1
  Upstream Author : Roger Seguin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de
* License : LGPL
  Description : Generic Monitor for the Xfce4 panel

 This plugin cyclically spawn the indicated script/program, displaying
 its output as a string into the panel. It could be useful for
 periodic monitoring of program's status.
 .
 Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc
Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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Bug#309861: ITP: xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin -- rapid launcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel

2005-05-19 Thread Rudy Godoy
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
  Version : 0.8
  Upstream Author : Masse Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : GPL
  Description : rapid launcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel

 Application launcher plugin for the Xfce panel.
 .
 Main differences from the original Xfce panel:
 .
 - Multiline support
 - Easy and fast configuration
 - Zoom effect
 .
 Homepage: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-powerpc
Locale: LANG=es_PE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_PE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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Re: HOWTO Help (was: Debian DPL Debate Comments)

2005-03-24 Thread Rudy Godoy
El día 23/03/2005 a 05:32 Alexander Schmehl escribio ...

> * Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050322 22:25]:
> 
> > > AFAIK we don't have a good "What you can do to help us" documentation
> > > (please correct me, if I am wrong).
> > How about http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ ?
> > Which is linked from the main debian.org page (bottom left: "Help Debian")
> 
> I think it is quite short and is missing some quite easy tasks that can
> be done by nearly everyone.
>

It's a very good start...
 
> I did the mentioned talk and am about to write the document, because I
> got asked a couple of times what people can do to help us, so I think
> there is need for a more detailed document about that.
> 

Sure, there's always people asking for such things and such a
documment would be really helpful for them and the end for Debian.
I've heard damog did similar thing recently. I've tried to do a
start working on similar documment after my talk at DC4, not made
real progress though, but I'd be more than likely to work on this once
I manage to "get things on the road" again. Probably putting a draft
of what you've summarized on debian-doc can be a good starting point.

regards,
-Rudy

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Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390 ... [or have strict arch: control? ]

2005-02-27 Thread Rudy Godoy
On 22/02/2005 at 10:11 Wouter Verhelst wrote...

 
> I agree that we should not continue to provide software for outdated
> hardware platforms just for the sake of it; but as it is, there are
> still people interested in m68k (some hobbyists, some embedded
> developers, some who just use their old trusty hardware as their home
> firewall, etc) and, I'm sure, other currently less-used hardware, so as
> long as a port doesn't continually stall the release (which none
> currently does; there are occasionally problems, but that happens in
> every major undertaking), I see no reason to drop any port.
> 

Regarding this issue I was thinking about it since I've faced in a
situation where a package[0] I maintain does have "high" hardware
requirements, which led me to think if it is really wise to have it
with "arch: any" since probably in some arches it would not ever be
installed/used, or even if case it will run really slow or even crash
and the user will not enjoy the software as was intended by upstream,
so maybe it doesn't make sense to have this software sent to
autobuilders and waste their resources/time for this, probably there
are more software with the same kind of hw reqs. in Debian.

I think if each package does specify the arches where it could 
*actually* be used/installed will save time and resources, which can be used
the most urgent/important ones, so in the end this probably would help the
situation for buildds' disk space, mirrors claiming not having disk
space to add another arch, large queue on buildds and posibibly make
life easier for porters and Debian releases.

I don't know much about buildd infrastructure[1], if such thing was
proposed or commented before (didn't check archives), if there's
another way to handle this, or if such things probably could be better
handled as a policy (to enforce and be more strict on this due growing
number of packages) for maintainers double check the arch: line to
question themselves if its really worth to have "any" or just put
there only the ones which does. I'd rather be more helpful than "hey
let's do this" but imho this could be easily addressed by encouraging to
double checking "arch", unless there are better options.

regards,
Rudy

0- torcs, a 3D OpenGL game, it needs at least 550MHZ CPU, >32MB OpenGL
1.3 Video Card and so on... upstream says it works on i386 and ppc
(both confirmed by me) but have no news from other', it has built
sucessful though.

1- although this tread is very informative 

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Re: xfce-goodies - help needed; Rudy Godoy MIA?

2005-01-19 Thread Rudy Godoy
El día 18/01/2005 a 12:53 Emanuele Rocca escribio ...

> WNPP bugs for some of the -goodies need to be retitled from O: to ITP:.
>

They wouldn't be ITA?
 
> I found the time to check -battery-plugin and -clipman-plugin, and I 
> must admit that they're not in a good shape (ITP bugs not closed in the
> changelog, bugs marked as fixed are actually still reproducible, lintian
> is not happy)...
> 

I don't see any ITP bugs on those both. Yes, they had some lintian
warning that I've managed to clean now.

> I don't want to be rude, but I am wondering if Rudy is the right person
> for these 13 packages, considering that he's got 9 packages in main 
> yet.
> Rudy, have you really got the time to maintain all the -goodies 
> properly?
> 

I've been working in 8 current packages and 2 new (wavelan and
weather). I wasn't considering to manage all myself, in fact I think
they (all 13) could be maintained in collaborative way. For now I
guess Simon's new list is a very good start towards it.

> Why is the Debian Xfce Packages Alioth project dead? [0]
> IMHO putting these packages under collaborative maintenance would be a
> better idea.
> 

Yes, I agree on this. In fact I remember asking for some "review" from
other Xfce maintainers before upload/ask for sponsorship.

regards,
-Rudy





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Re: xfce-goodies - help needed; Rudy Godoy MIA?

2005-01-16 Thread Rudy Godoy
Citando Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> I know the -goodies packages are in bad shape.
>
> > Please take some time to help figure out what should be done with
> > these packages -- cleaned up/adopted, or removed from the archive --
> > before ITPing more packages in the xfce4 namespace.
>
> Sure.  I think for sarge they can be cleaned up/updated.  I've just
> finished a stretch getting the 22 packages for the main body of xfce4
> for 4.2.0 for experimental sorted this weekend so I'm a bit knackered
> currently.
>
> To be honest I'd been expecting others to sort out the -plugins for
> sarge given people had said they would.
>

Hi,

> Rudy Godoy seemed interested at one point but now his mail is bouncing
> though I'm ccing him again in case it got fixed.
>

I've already had the new revisions waiting for a while at mentors.debian.net
I've asked a couple (or more) of times for sponsoring at -mentors and
to the xfce team withouth luck. Didn't "pushed" that much anyway, I
mean talk to my actual sponsors, I was going to do ask for it in these
days.

Well, despite all that, I'm able to provide the updates for such
packages and a couple of new plugins like wireless monitor.
I'll upload all them this week to my website, so any prospective sponsor
can grab and hopefully push them into the archives.

regards,
-Rudy


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Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Rudy Godoy
El día 01/12/2004 a 06:28 Steve McIntyre escribio ...

> Rather than argue about morality, legality, whatever, shouldn't we be
> considering this in other terms - simple usefulness? Instead of asking
> "why shouldn't this go into Debian?", ask "why _should_ this go into
> Debian?".
> 

I completely agree on this, what is the reason/usefulness to have a cpu
monitoring program which "main feature" is to show a naked woman (or
man)? Since there are other programs which do the same? does it improves
the distribution, user-friendlyness, encourages people to install
Debian instead other distros? or ... helps to have Sarge released?

> We seem to have a growing and worrying trend to pick up any random
> free software and add it to the distribution without considering
> whether it's actually useful or not...

I do also agree on this and with previous post about a sort of
guidelines to determine what are the means to pick a piece of software
and put it into the archives (ain't talking about ban-this-and-that DG)

regards,
Rudy

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