Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-07-16 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 02:04:57PM -0400, nick black wrote:

> Sam Hartman left as an exercise for the reader:
> > I consider anything that requires me to write wpa_supplicant config to
> > be a bad idea (unless I'm running an AP) and NetworkManager driving
> > wpa_supplicant is a better idea.
> 
> i think everyone's agreed on this part.

For my part I tend to prefer writing wpa_supplicant configs, as they're
dead simple and allow for easy setting of priorities. Including them from
/etc/network/interfaces is also trivial.

Example /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
from my laptop, with just the names changed:

---
source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -qv "no link"

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -q "no link"
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf  
---

---
network={
ssid="Home"
psk="home password"
# Can also be this, via wpa_passphrase:
# psk=15bd59d568643e6781dd12f7e160b0589242472d3cc299bb5b0c4289d40c01af
priority=20
}

network={
ssid="CoffeeShop"
#psk="coffee password"
psk=ccd48495b2a1b7502f0bb0c5ca3689f6847b4f8532ce195ec17080308acb6bcd
priority=10
}

network={
key_mgmt=NONE
}
---

So, not quite everyone agrees. An advantage to using wpa_supplicant.conf
directly is that it works everywhere, and can generally be distributed as-
is across different operating systems.

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Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-20 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:23:58AM +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote:

> We might be using slightly different terms, but for desktops I still
> tend to use ifupdown (since the network config is easily configured
> thus, and essentially never changes); laptops I have ifupdown &
> network-manager (since the latter makes joining wireless networks on my
> travels easier).

ifupdown everywhere here, as on the one side it simplifies bridge
configuration and makes for a minimal/transparent config, and on the other
I find it pretty convenient to add new networks to wpa_supplicant.conf,
where it's also easy to set per-network priorities if I'm going to have a
particular preference of wireless network for any measure of time.

For my laptop, jumping between the two modes is quite literally effortless:

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -qv "no link"

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -q "no link"
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf  

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Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-04 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 06:15:30PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

> > This may change with a testing-security upload queue.
> 
> Yes.  The testing security team might help here too.
> https://alioth.debian.org/projects/secure-testing/>.

Ooh... This is arguably the most exciting Debian-related thing I've
heard of in some time! A security team for Sarge. Dreamy!

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Re: dselect survey

2004-12-13 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:21:07PM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:

> aptitude has a nice usage "enter" means drill down, this is intuitive.
> 
> 'q' means quit/leave level backward - this is intuitive

I have to say that 'q' doing something other than quitting the program
strikes me as being totally unintuitive.


> g for go, this is intuitive

What does "go" mean? Act on the choices that have been made? "Enter" seems
reasonably equivalent.

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Re: dselect survey

2004-12-08 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:11:31AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:

> I used dselect a lot back in the day (I don't know, like up until 2000
> or so?).  It had a clunky but useable interface (though I fully
> understand how newbies could get frustrated), and generally worked all
> right until there was a problem;

Maybe I'm still waiting for my first real problem to show up, but I
generally find dselect to be a real pleasure to use.

Could you present an example of a problem you had with dselect? Honestly,
I wouldn't be using Debian today if not for dselect, which I see as being
a really nice selling point.

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