Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 02:04:57PM -0400, nick black wrote: > Sam Hartman left as an exercise for the reader: > > I consider anything that requires me to write wpa_supplicant config to > > be a bad idea (unless I'm running an AP) and NetworkManager driving > > wpa_supplicant is a better idea. > > i think everyone's agreed on this part. For my part I tend to prefer writing wpa_supplicant configs, as they're dead simple and allow for easy setting of priorities. Including them from /etc/network/interfaces is also trivial. Example /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf from my laptop, with just the names changed: --- source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -qv "no link" auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -q "no link" wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf --- --- network={ ssid="Home" psk="home password" # Can also be this, via wpa_passphrase: # psk=15bd59d568643e6781dd12f7e160b0589242472d3cc299bb5b0c4289d40c01af priority=20 } network={ ssid="CoffeeShop" #psk="coffee password" psk=ccd48495b2a1b7502f0bb0c5ca3689f6847b4f8532ce195ec17080308acb6bcd priority=10 } network={ key_mgmt=NONE } --- So, not quite everyone agrees. An advantage to using wpa_supplicant.conf directly is that it works everywhere, and can generally be distributed as- is across different operating systems. -- Mason Loring Bliss ma...@blisses.orghttp://blisses.org/ For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:23:58AM +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: > We might be using slightly different terms, but for desktops I still > tend to use ifupdown (since the network config is easily configured > thus, and essentially never changes); laptops I have ifupdown & > network-manager (since the latter makes joining wireless networks on my > travels easier). ifupdown everywhere here, as on the one side it simplifies bridge configuration and makes for a minimal/transparent config, and on the other I find it pretty convenient to add new networks to wpa_supplicant.conf, where it's also easy to set per-network priorities if I'm going to have a particular preference of wireless network for any measure of time. For my laptop, jumping between the two modes is quite literally effortless: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -qv "no link" auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp pre-up /sbin/mii-tool eth0 | /bin/grep -q "no link" wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -- (defun main () (format t "Mason Loring Bliss - ma...@blisses.org - ") (format t "By the mysgydynge of the sterysman, he was set vpon the pylys") (format t " of the brydge, and the barge whelmyd. - Chronicle of Fabyan~%")) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: New stable version after Sarge
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 06:15:30PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > This may change with a testing-security upload queue. > > Yes. The testing security team might help here too. > https://alioth.debian.org/projects/secure-testing/>. Ooh... This is arguably the most exciting Debian-related thing I've heard of in some time! A security team for Sarge. Dreamy! -- Mason Loring Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] They also surf who awake ? sleep : dream; http://blisses.org/ only stand on waves. pgpCLOxakqDxb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dselect survey
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:21:07PM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > aptitude has a nice usage "enter" means drill down, this is intuitive. > > 'q' means quit/leave level backward - this is intuitive I have to say that 'q' doing something other than quitting the program strikes me as being totally unintuitive. > g for go, this is intuitive What does "go" mean? Act on the choices that have been made? "Enter" seems reasonably equivalent. -- Mason Loring Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED]Oderint dum metuant! http://blisses.org/ awake ? sleep : random() & 2 ? dream : sleep; pgprkqiHPoQUP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dselect survey
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:11:31AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > I used dselect a lot back in the day (I don't know, like up until 2000 > or so?). It had a clunky but useable interface (though I fully > understand how newbies could get frustrated), and generally worked all > right until there was a problem; Maybe I'm still waiting for my first real problem to show up, but I generally find dselect to be a real pleasure to use. Could you present an example of a problem you had with dselect? Honestly, I wouldn't be using Debian today if not for dselect, which I see as being a really nice selling point. -- Mason Loring Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://blisses.org/ "I am a brother of jackals, and a companion of ostriches." (Job 30 : 29) pgpB9eZLWhVyr.pgp Description: PGP signature