slang, newt, whiptail
hi all, i am about to write an easy to use editor, using slang ... (remember this ugly emacs/vi discussion) i started with slang and noticed that there is nearly no documentation and no good screen/kbd support at all. so i tried newt. this one seems to bring it everything. but there is no documenation at all. and it's optimized for use with dialogs (editfields, OKbutton and the like). no applicationmenues or simple windows overlapping each other. it's written for use with whiptail. so i expected to find documentation there. but i didn't find SOURCE OF WHIPTAIL at all, what's going on there?? -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xanim and the dotofiles
no, that's not a new boygroup, it's a copyright problem. for special decodings xanim uses non-free software. i found the needed .o files for alpha. perhaps now is the moment to get xanim multi-platform ready. there is a server with a lot of objects including the missing for debian. the question now is: shall thoses files be included in the distr? (url is ftp://ftp.uni-trier.de/pub/unix/X11/application/xanim/modules/) -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
if you all do not stop this discussion i start writing an editor. easy to use just as EDIT.EXE. for anybody, especially a beginner. also for professionals. :wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
if you all do not stop this discussion i start writing an editor. easy to use just as EDIT.EXE. for anybody, especially a beginner. also for professionals. :wq Go ahead, it wouldn't hurt, would it? :-) OK, i would start if everybody promisses to stop the discussion if or if not a beginner has to tamper around with vi. -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: INTENT: to pkg netscape 4.5 full debs(not 4.05)
So, if you have them ready, please release 4.05 debs. I'm eager to test them. :-) mee too, i would like to see it on alpha... -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
Absolute novices unwilling to learn should be lead gently to the nearest windows box. How about something like: [..] This editor has two modes, in Input mode you may enter text, in Command mode you may alter previously entered text. To enter input mode from command mode, hit i To enter command mode from input mode, hit ESC it's safe to hit ESC while in command mode [ESC means the escape key, ENTER means the enter key] do you really think an absolute novice would understand why he or she should press j or k and not those fancy key with the arrows with the correct direction instead and that those key should won't insert those letters printed on them into the text? please come down from your trip. stop this thread. it's nasty. important is which editor to use instead. i think even ae is to cryptic to use. just to be shure: i'm an absolute fan of vim. use it every day write even html with it instead of using an wordprocessor. so get to a productive discussion now, please. -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xanim on alpha
hi, i tried to get an alpha-binary of xanim. because i didn't find it on the mirror i got the source and tried to compile. everything worked fine but a wrong path in rules (that one for the dotofiles.tgz, no ../ necesary). but then the linker complained about wrong binary: the source package comes with intel objects. shure, it's not free, that's the cause i think, but where can i get those object for alpha? -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
access
hi, i copied a harddisk with tar (kind of tar -c -f - | tar -x -f - -C /copy...) and lost a lot of accessinformation. it seems, that the umask dropped all the rights for writing for group and other. shure i didn't read the manual and thi sbehavier may be a feature, not a bug. but now i've got a debian system with wrong access rights. i could fix /dev, cause MAKEDEV does this. now im looking for a similar skript for the other dirs. i think it would be importand to check those access rights from time to time. kind of konsistency check on files and dirs especially in /var would be nice. best regards, michael -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xanim on alpha
Oops. I forgot to remove that evil archive from the source! Technically, we are not allowed to distrbute those. The xanim author got a permission to distribute them, but it's non-transferable. I tried to contact the company that owns the copyright, but got no response, and xanim author's contacts for this are long gone so no xanim at all or does it work without? -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tools/ on ftp.debian.org
b) are there tools for m68k or alpha ? linload, milo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tools/ on ftp.debian.org
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 01:36:58PM +0200, Anselm Lingnau wrote: unz512x3.exe is a self-unarching zip, and can be unpacked with Linux unzip gzip124.exe is a self-unarching lharc file and can be unpacked with Linux lha It might be a good idea to add a note in the README to that effect. i don't like those archives: you don know about a virus in it and you need 2 steps to get on that what you need (in fact you need a writeable storage with enough space - not easy with a floppy boot system and a cdrom). so: please extract those tools for dos! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mkdosfs
who maintains the mkdosfs package There's no separate mkdosfs package anymore; it has been merged into 'dosfstools' which is maintained by [EMAIL PROTECTED] . And which I'm fairly certain I ported, since I used it to create the boot partition on my alpha... same to me. but why didn you give it back? didn't you violate GPL then ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.
Alright, the more I think about this, the more I think that James is probably right. (NO flames, people can change there minds can't they?) Mc doesn't belong in the base set. i agree to this. neither does vi or emacs belong there, even if emacs whould be an 30KB sized editor. However I do think more attention should be paid to the user. (not alot more just some.) THIS is the correct aproach. in the base system an editor is needed, that everybody can use, not only those vi-nerds (like me). even emacs is to difficult to use. i hate to say that, but i'd like to see an editor like the dos-editor 'edit'. this editor can be used instantly by nearly every computer user with a little expirience. and that's what's needed. I've a freind who wrote a editor like dos edit. However it has some rather nasty bugs Anyone here use Tico? ... I don't think we have a package for it, I don't even know what licence it's under, It was just sugested to me. if there is a chance of getting the bugs out of it and it is GPLed i would be interested to work on it. so here is what I propose: Lets rewrite the keybindings for Ae, to something that is much simpler. something akin to the keybindings on pico[1]. We can then set this alternative keybinding to be the default, and also include a vi and or standard keybindings, set. this should make everyone happy. IMHO. I'm working on the new keybindings right now... hopefully I'll have them done tonight, and in my home dir on master (ewigin). If anyone wants to help, Letme know. i don't think, you can make a easy to use editor out of ae. somebody threw 'le' in. what's that? I don't know either, anymore... I'm kinda lost in the ae.rc file... very confusing... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
path without saying what that set path should be. So, why do the vi users like _using_ vi? (Someone already said it's standard... can I get real reasons now? :) i'm faster with vi. that's all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)
If vi would fit on the rescue disk, do you think we would be discussing ae? i think it's not a good idea to put vi there. this editor can be used by a profi only and a prof can use any other editor too. a beginner won't be able to use vi but the easy to use small editor. maybe ae is bad, but it easier to use then vi and small. i wouldn discuss vi or ae, i would like to look for a really easy to use editor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt pgp
hi all, why is mutt compiled without pgp-support as default? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.
I would like to have `mc' and the two packages it depends on placed into the base set. I think this is a horrendously bad idea. agreed -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deb and now?
hi all, i made my deb-package yesterday for i386 alpha but now: what have i to do to release it? -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: first package
but the second error seems to be more serious. in line 1 of my changelogfile is nothing wrong compared to the script. it just says: z (1.0-1) unstable; urgency=low (my package is called 'z' for now) is the name a problem (too short)? renamed it to zet: that works. so debian package names are more than one chars long? seams to be a bug in build? (whatever sense it makes to have that short names) -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
