Re: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?

2003-08-06 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I agree.  The main functionality of Mutt is to read *and* send mail.
 Being able to only read mail archives is not the main functionality
 but a backup functionality.  To be able to provide the main
 functionality, an MTA is required, hence a dependency.

What if the MTA is on a different host? Can't mutt speak SMTP?

Morgon
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in The End of Evangelion




Re: Multi-level symlinks for default kernel

2003-07-22 Thread Morgon Kanter
 I am wondering if anyone else is having the same problems I am with debian
 keeping the vmlinuz symlink in /.
 
 I have several systems where /boot is the only filesystem accessable by the
 boot loader because of software raid, or possibly lvm (haven't done this
 yet, but thinking about it).
 
 I regularly build my own kernels with make-kpkg, so I changed it to put the
 vmlinuz symlink in /boot, and changed my menu.lst file in grub to use this
 symlink to boot from.

In this situation, why don't you just forget about the /vmlinuz 
symlink altogether and just have /boot/vmlinuz point to the proper 
kernel image? (on my system there is no symlink, I just update grub to 
point to a new kernel image). I don't see what grub has to be patched 
for.

Morgon
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in The End of Evangelion




Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-06-30 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last year I discovered mawk sitting there until I banished it away with
 apt-get install gawk.

Mawk is smaller and faster, so it makes sense that it's the default 
awk for a base system. Even in the GNU installer packages for the Hurd, 
the default awk is mawk rather than gawk.

Morgon
-- 
Man is the only creature capable of hating itself -- Governor of Japan 
in The End of Evangelion




Accepted vtun 2.6-2 (i386 source)

2003-06-18 Thread Morgon Kanter
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:22:35 -0400
Source: vtun
Binary: vtun
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.6-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 vtun   - Virtual Tunnel over TCP/IP Networks
Closes: 197496 197752 197857
Changes: 
 vtun (2.6-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Patch so clients now write their PID file as well. (Closes: #197752, #197857)
   * Oops, it seems that I stuck the german debconf template in the
 wrong place. Thanks to Michel Grentzinger for the patch. (Closes: #197496)
   * Started using dpatch to handle patches between versions.
Files: 
 bb751db0c18db302c8de33875f14cdb0 626 non-US optional vtun_2.6-2.dsc
 7bee094716f7a4e39478c35c7e06a2c8 74626 non-US optional vtun_2.6-2.diff.gz
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Accepted:
vtun_2.6-2.diff.gz
  to pool/non-US/main/v/vtun/vtun_2.6-2.diff.gz
vtun_2.6-2.dsc
  to pool/non-US/main/v/vtun/vtun_2.6-2.dsc
vtun_2.6-2_i386.deb
  to pool/non-US/main/v/vtun/vtun_2.6-2_i386.deb


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Accepted vtun 2.6-1 (sparc source)

2003-06-12 Thread Morgon Kanter
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 20 May 2002 17:33:21 -0400
Source: vtun
Binary: vtun
Architecture: source sparc
Version: 2.6-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 vtun   - Virtual Tunnel over TCP/IP Networks
Closes: 129968 134271 138596 148770 148807 187796 190083 194023
Changes: 
 vtun (2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release. (Closes: #187796)
 + tunnel.c fd leak fixed (Closes: #148770)
 + bugs in keeping tap interface up in persist mode fixed (Closes: #148807)
   * New maintainer (Closes: #194023)
   * Bumped standards version to 3.5.10
   * New gettext-based debconf template translation used.
 Thanks for the patch, Andre. (Closes: #190083)
   * New Brazilian-Portugese debconf template translation (Thanks, Andre)
   * Added a German template (Closes: #138596)
   * Removed debian/copyright boilerplate left over from dh_make
   * Now just grab the newest config.{sub,guess} from autotools-dev
 instead of letting upstream provide them.
   * Added an autogen.sh script, and regenerated configure script so
 it would work with the new config.{guess,sub}.
   * We now use /dev/net/tun, not /dev/net/misc/tun. No idea why we
 didn't before, other than devfs uses it. (Closes: #129968)
   * Can now connect an SSL client to a non-SSL server.
 Patch by Artur Czechowski. (Closes: #134271)
Files: 
 1a7c1b9455f5951276c135db151d8c2f 608 non-US optional vtun_2.6-1.dsc
 309534fd03c5d13a19c43916f61f4bbf 95637 non-US optional vtun_2.6.orig.tar.gz
 d8c625ec2cf9c5dd9e2cbeccabc5eb5e 72758 non-US optional vtun_2.6-1.diff.gz
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Accepted:
vtun_2.6-1.diff.gz
  to pool/non-US/main/v/vtun/vtun_2.6-1.diff.gz
vtun_2.6-1.dsc
  to pool/non-US/main/v/vtun/vtun_2.6-1.dsc
vtun_2.6-1_sparc.deb
  to pool/non-US/main/v/vtun/vtun_2.6-1_sparc.deb
vtun_2.6.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/non-US/main/v/vtun/vtun_2.6.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted dia2code 0.8.1-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-06 Thread Morgon Kanter
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Date: Wed,  4 Jun 2003 16:29:47 -0400
Source: dia2code
Binary: dia2code
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.8.1-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dia2code   - a dia-UML code generator
Closes: 187731 192857
Changes: 
 dia2code (0.8.1-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New maintainer. (Closes: #187731)
   * dia2code.h: prefix libxml2 includes with libxml/. (Closes: #192857)
   * Updated standards version to 3.5.10
   * Updated package descriptions for additional languages dia2code can
 generate.
   * Add AM_MAINTAINER_MODE to configure.in and update aclocal.m4, configure.
 Add a kludge to debian/rules to avoid rerunning autoheader and automake.
   * Use autotools-dev.
Files: 
 79e518cb9944d1e4f50078b2cbdee32f 635 devel optional dia2code_0.8.1-3.dsc
 fa0b7fd8f6f59c8da98783658a30d717 9524 devel optional dia2code_0.8.1-3.diff.gz
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Accepted:
dia2code_0.8.1-3.diff.gz
  to pool/main/d/dia2code/dia2code_0.8.1-3.diff.gz
dia2code_0.8.1-3.dsc
  to pool/main/d/dia2code/dia2code_0.8.1-3.dsc
dia2code_0.8.1-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/d/dia2code/dia2code_0.8.1-3_i386.deb


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Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-25 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Graham Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
None taken. And no, I am not.
   [a DD]
  
   OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1.
  
  Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ?
 
 i would hope not, though, in this case, it does not matter, since aaron
 responded before moron did.

I hope that was a typo :p

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Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-22 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Stefan Schwandter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit.

I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because 
one if my ITPs (Quat) depends on these.

Morgon
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Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-22 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Francesco Paolo Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
  
  * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
 
 Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. 
 Do it using BTS directly.

Debian Developers' Reference actually recommends doing that on the first 
line of the new changelog entry.

Morgon
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Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-22 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) wrote:
   fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit.
  
  I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because 
  one if my ITPs (Quat) depends on these.
 
 No offense, but are you actually a DD?  I can't seem to find you in
 the database, or even the new-maintainer queue.

None taken. And no, I am not.

Morgon
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Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-22 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
   
   Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. 
   Do it using BTS directly.
  
  Debian Developers' Reference actually recommends doing that on the first 
  line of the new changelog entry.
 
 No, it does not _recommend_ that, don't misrepresent it!

[...]
It is an old tradition to acknowledge bugs fixed in non-maintainer uploads 
in the first changelog entry of the proper maintainer upload, for instance, 
in a changelog entry like this:

old tradition usually seems to mean good idea to me.

Morgon
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Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-22 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   No, it does not _recommend_ that, don't misrepresent it!
  
  [...]
  It is an old tradition to acknowledge bugs fixed in non-maintainer uploads 
  in the first changelog entry of the proper maintainer upload, for instance, 
  in a changelog entry like this:
  
  old tradition usually seems to mean good idea to me.
 
 For some people, rebooting machines at first sight of trouble is an old
 tradition, too... :)

Point taken!

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Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-29 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin v. L) wrote:
 I think the performance loss for applications like KDE will be
 significant. I doubt that providing two versions of KDE (i386
 and i486+) would be feasible.

Not starting a flamewar here, but in all honesty, who is going to try 
to use KDE on a 386 anyway? Actually, while we are on that, who is even 
going to try to use X at all on a 386?

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Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-28 Thread Morgon Kanter
This one time, at band camp, David Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think a great tag to have (but perhaps cumbersome to add to so many
 packages) would be a set of keybindings tags, which would try to indicate
 the default keybindings (since that is what a novice is going to see).

IMHO, this is better left in the package description


 Maybe novices should only be shown gui
 programs after all.  They probably don't want to be using a shell
 anyways...

I don't really think this would be a good idea at all. I was a novice 
once while using Debian, and I'm glad that the above wasn't reality.

Morgon
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Re: Bug#190912: ITP: konqueror-embedded -- A light version of the Konqueror web browser for use in small machines

2003-04-27 Thread Morgon Kanter
 -snip-
  * SSL
 -snip-
 
 This is likely illegal if it is truely one binary and doesn't do the
 kpart abstraction stuff... I really wish openssl would just vanish
 someday.

Time to start converting the world to gnu TLS, it seems...

Morgon
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Bug#190994: ITP: quat -- quat: a 3D quaternionic fractal generator

2003-04-27 Thread Morgon Kanter
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2003-04-27
Severity: wishlist

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  Version : 1.20
  Upstream Author : Dirk Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/phy11733/index_e.html
* License : GPL
  Description : quat: a 3D quaternionic fractal generator

Quat draws 3D slices from 4-dimensional quatern fractals. These are
different from what are normally called three-dimensional fractals,
which are merely a reinterpretation of two-dimensional data. Quat has
many parameters for coloring, drawing functions, defining intersection
planes, and more.

It can work in both the console and with X. The console version will
save the fractal to a PNG file, and the X version will also display on
screen a version (typically of worse quality) of the image being drawn
to the PNG file.

- -- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux surgo 2.4.20rc4 #1 Wed Mar 5 20:50:15 EST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

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Re: Do we need policy changes?

2003-04-20 Thread Morgon Kanter
  other distributions), but the last (user-relevant) step of the setup is
  not user-friendly at all.
 
 Then work at improving it.  UTF8 in Debian is _very_ imature still, and even
 a how to make your package UTF-8 friendly document that you could write (and
 posted to d-devel and d-desktop if you don't know better places to put it
 in, since someone will read it and update the other stuff with it if it is
 good enough) would help things immensely.

That document would certainly be a good idea, and I would take it to 
heart. I would certainly love to make my prospective packages as UTF-8 
(and i18n in gerenal) friendly as possible.

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Re: Bug#189347: stop the manage with debconf madness

2003-04-17 Thread Morgon Kanter
  OTOH, xml config files (like fontconfig's config) could be losslessly 
  parsed 
  through xslt processing...
 
 Much like any other config file can be losslessly parsed by processing
 them. That's not really very helpful.

However, it could be something of a standard for configuration files, 
so people can know what's a good idea and what's a bad idea.

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