Re: [Debian-uk] dak-roulette activated

2013-04-01 Thread Paul Martin
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 01:05:06AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 01:07:32AM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > The residents of #debian-uk are pleased to announce that, in conjunction 
> > with
> > our friendly FTP masters, dak-roulette has just been activated in cron on
> > ftp-master.debian.org targetting unstable and no particular maintainer.
> 
> > I enclose the documentation for your reference.
> 
> This seems to be a misnomer.  The documentation makes it clear that it's
> based on Russian roulette, not on roulette the casino game; "dak-roulette"
> is as a result misleading, we should find a better name for this.
> 
> How about dak-svidanya?

More to the point, this far into freeze such packages should only ever
be uploaded to the existential repository.

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Re: privilege escalation and potential data loss in logrotate

2010-12-10 Thread Paul Martin
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:17:53AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:

> If you really care about this problem, which is nice, try to get
> logrotate fixed.

As I have said before, I do welcome patches that don't break existing
functionality or introduce new race conditions.

None of my emails to Florian are private, and I would be happy for him
to quote them if I am also allowed to quote his responses.

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Re: Bug#128795: suck: Incomplete uninstall

2002-01-14 Thread Paul Martin
reassign 128795 logrotate
retitle 128795 Missing directory in glob causes error, even with missingok
thanks

On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 03:47:26PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:

> I disagree, obviously.  Taking this to debian-devel, since I doubt we
> can agree.  Therefore quoting a fair bit as well.

You cropped some relevant bits too.

> | On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 08:32:02PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> | > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 08:51:20PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> | 
> | > > | I uninstalled suck (apt-get remove) but it seems some cron jobs are
> | > > | still hanging around.  Here's the log:
> | > > 
> | > > Uhm, no.  It's actually just a logrotate hanging around, which is
> | > > should, according to policy.
> | > 
> | > Right; it was the logrotate entry.  logrotate was the cron job, which
> | > obviously needs to continue.
> | 
> | > > I am reassigning this bug against logrotate since it shouldn't report
> | > > errors for files which have ?missingok? enabled.
> | 
> | Unfortunately, this only applies to files for which there is no
> | wildcard. The error is reported *before* the missingok has been parsed.
> 
> The documentation does not say _anything_ about that.  It says that
> 
>missingok
>   If the log file is missing, go on to  the  next  one  without
>   issuing an error message. See also nomissingok.
> 
> /var/log/suck/*log
> 
> is missing and the missingok directive is present.  That means that it
> should _not_ issue an error message.

> Why would there be a missingok there if it didn't have any effect?

The documentation does not specify the behaviour where the *directory*
containing the wildcard is missing. With the directory available but
empty, logrotate is silent.

[snipped was how the user got into this situation]

The only other possibility is that the /var/log/suck directory was
empty at the point 'dpkg --remove' was run, and dpkg deleted the
directory as it was empty. This could happen if suck had been installed
and immediately removed.

On reflection, I acknowledge this is not a suck bug.

I could amend logrotate's manpage (eg. adding a BUGS section). It may
be too late for woody, though.

If it's deemed a programming bug, to fix it would require a complete
rewrite of the configuration file parser, which definitely wouldn't get
into woody.

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Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Paul Martin
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 07:34:32AM +, Andreas Metzler wrote:

> Possible scenario:
> 1.0-3 has some major changes and accidentially fixes an RC-bug in
> 1.0-2, before _anybody_ noticed it in 1.0-2.
> 1.0-2 goes into testing and BLAM.

Surely, the maintainer can then close (or downgrade) the RC bug, saying
it's fixed in the newer version?

(Or are you meaning that the maintainer will have to play whack-a-mole
with multiple identical RC bug entries to get the package into testing?)

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Re: emu10k1-mixer?

2001-05-07 Thread Paul Martin
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:12:56AM +0200, Jan Niehusmann wrote:
> Is there a mixer available that supports the advanced mixing features
> of the emu10k1 chip (found on Soundblaster Live) ?
> 
> The only one I know is 'dm', a little but very usefull command line
> tool. As it's not yet in debian, I will ITP it if there are no 
> alternatives.

dm is deprecated:

| The dm utility doesn't work with driver versions > 0.7, this may be
| you problem.

mgr_text is the current text mode "mixer", with mixer being the GTK
mixer application.

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Re: possible bug in gettext (autotools?) or in some packages

2001-05-03 Thread Paul Martin
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:32:28PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:

> so I checked /usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES and noticed that
> rpm and gtk+licq had also this problem. The problem is also happening
> to other languages too as /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/ has a
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@...

Do you have gettext installed on the machine you're trying to build on?

I got exactly these symptoms until I installed gettext.

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Re: rfc1149

2001-05-03 Thread Paul Martin
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 05:04:06PM +1000, Sam Couter wrote:
> 
> Taxonomically, pigeons and doves are the same.
> Both are members of the order Columbiformes, family Columbidae. The term dove
> is generally used for smaller species with pointed tails. "Pigeon" refers to 
> the
> larger species with square or rounded tails.
> 




Re: rfc1149

2001-05-02 Thread Paul Martin
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:07:36PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>   Actually, I think it has been implemented recently.  I think maybe a
> Debian package would have to go into contrib though, unless you can find a
> way to squeeze pigeons into a .deb ;-)
> 
>   Hmm.."Depends: pigeons (>= 200lb)"

Of course there'll be cries of anguish from the mirror maintainers as
they'll have to install extra aviary capacity. What happens when someone
suggests we have a need for doves as well as pigeons?

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Re: problems with atari800

2001-05-01 Thread Paul Martin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:05:33PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> $ host -a www.signus.demon.co.uk
> www.signus.demon.co.uk  MX  10 punt-1.mail.demon.net
> www.signus.demon.co.uk  MX  10 punt-2.mail.demon.net
> 
> So, it seems there are at least MX records for this address, but no A or
> CNAME records.  So the web site, it seems, does not exist for the moment.
> You may, however, be able to contact someone via email to that address.

$ host -a www.i-smell-a-wildcard-here.demon.co.uk
www.i-smell-a-wildcard-here.demon.co.uk MX  10 punt-1.mail.demon.net
www.i-smell-a-wildcard-here.demon.co.uk MX  10 punt-2.mail.demon.net

Demon are well known for having wildcards in their DNS. If you didn't
get an A or CNAME record back, the account's dead.

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Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Paul Martin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt wrote:
> If instead, you were able to type something akin to "update-kernel" or 
> whatever, and then have a kernel built suited to your arch, but with the 
> "default" Debian-options (ie. lotsa modules), wouldn't that be better? I 
> mean, just make a note to the user, to switch to another console, or minimize 
> the window in case of X. Then he'll get a kernel freshly built. IMHO, that's 

A compromise would be for the kernel-image- build environment for each
kernel-image- to be packaged as, say "kernel-builder-2.4.4-686-smp",
which would (I guess) consist of a depends on kernel-package,
initrd-tools and mkcramfs, a script to make and install the kernel using
make-kpkg, and the linux/.config file needed for that particular
configuration.

I'd suspect that each of these packages would be of the order of
64kbytes maximum.

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Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Paul Martin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:45:44AM +0300, Sami Haahtinen wrote:
> The 'exit 0' line in the beginning of the init file is a bad idea. for so many
> times i've commented out the '### comment this line to really start the
> service' lines. and then after upgrade gotten in to the position where i have
> to diff bethween two maintainer scripts to add the changes or just replace the
> old script and recomment the exit line.

The strategy I'm taking for mars-nwe's init.d script is:

case "$1" in
  start)
test -f /etc/mars-nwe/nwserv.conf || exit 0
if grep -q "^### NOT CONFIGURED YET ###" /etc/mars-nwe/nwserv.conf
then
echo "mars-nwe has not yet been configured."
exit 0;
fi
echo -n "Starting $DESC: "

However, this is a special case, as my idea of "sensible defaults" are
very unlikely to appear sensible to most users. I'd rather the default
to be no service, rather than insecure server.

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