Re: Find complete set of debs
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 11:06:50AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Friday 07 September 2007 09.48:36 Adeodato Simó wrote: > > * Adrian von Bidder [Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:49:19 +0200]: > > > No, all the other .deb packages that come from the same source pkg as > > > the one I have. (But usually I only want i386 and all architectures.) > > > > > > Time to properly learn grep-dctrl, I guess, that's one tool I've > > > completely neglected so far. I guess it should provide the info if > > > invoked the right way. > > > > I guess the hard bit is the "same version" bit. Do you mean like > > downloading from snapshot.debian.net and stuff? Or is it assumed that > > versions you pass to the script will be present in the mirror's pull > > (i.e. stable or testing packages, or up to date unstable versions). > > The problem occurs right after I've installed some software, so all the > necessary data is still available in current testing/unstable/wherever. apt-get --download-only install \ $(apt-cache showsrc $PKG | grep Binary: | cut -d':' -f2 | tr -d ',') -- Peter Mathiasson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:06:19PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On 1/18/06, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:47:35AM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > > On 1/17/06, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 1) No changes rebuild-only upload should still be versionned so that we > > > > do not end up with two .deb with the same version but different > > > > contents. Rebuilding a package with a newer toolchain can cause > > > > different dependencies and bugs. > > > > > > In ubuntu, no changes rebuild-only get the suffix 'buildX' or > > > 'ubuntuX+1', depending if it has already diverged. Packages with > > > 'buildX' suffix get synced automatically on the next upload to debian. > > > > Are you sure ? Compare the menu package at > > <http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/menu> > > with the one in sid. They have the same versions (2.1.27) but not the > > same content (at least the dependencies are different.) > > No buildX or ubuntuX suffix. > > As pointed out several times, the source package in the ubuntu archive > is NOT different to the source package in the debian archive. The > binary package have been rebuilt in an different environment, which > can caus different dependencies on the resulting binary package. You said that "no changes rebuild-only get the suffix 'buildX'". This is, apparently, not true. -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 10:34:28PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:27:01 +0200 > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know the laws where you come from, but in .no, I think this > > would be very illegal. Also, you don't want to archive everything > > that passes through a mail server, that'll just give you a huge bunch > > of unorganized crap. > > Here it isn't. That is because that correspondence is done on company > time using company equipment supposedly for company purposes. They have the > right to keep records of what is going on and some companies do, indeed, keep > records. Obviously they're not going to keep the spam. The point is though > that they do keep records and unless your personal mail is caught by some > automatic filter or is removed manually (in which case it is read anyway) it > can be saved. Then perhaps you should use an encrypted tunnel to a safer location. I wouldn't send mails through that channel, even if it was work related. You should value your integrity more than that. -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228
Re: libraries being removed from the archive
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 01:07:42AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > I'm not sure that current distcc in unstable can support such configuration, > but it should be really easy to add this support. In fact, as far as I can > remember, it is mentioned in distcc documentation that machines that run > distcc and distccd may have different architecture. "Unlike other distributed build systems, distcc distcc does not require all machines to share a filesystem, or to have the same libraries or header files installed. distcc sends the complete preprocessed source code across the network for each job." Sounds like it might work out of the box if you just exclude "localhost" from DISTCC_HOSTS. -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228
Re: libraries being removed from the archive
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:54:56PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Surprise, I was thinking about the same thing, yesterday. Basic idea: > mount the slow system's build chroot from the fast server, replace > gcc/g++/ld with scripts that call the server's version remotely. The > biggest problem will probably be (a) getting all those pathnames right. Wouldn't it be possible to use something like distcc for this? -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228
Re: Packages preventing other packages from going into testing (fwd)
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:58:09PM +0200, Jacob Hallén wrote: > My program answers the question "Where will an extra effort produce drastic > results?" I'm sure I could have modified Björns program to yield this output, > but I don't read and write Perl programs for pleasure. http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/stalls.html ? -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228
Re: Non-DFSG-free package in main
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 07:47:11PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:19:47PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > I just noticed that 'heyu' is non-free, at least according to bug #149128. > > Shouldn't this bug be upgraded to serious, at least? (We shouldn't be > > shipping it in sarge if it's non-free.) > > Why not move it to non-free? Or you defining sarge as main only? > We haven't voted to remove non-free yet. I thought non-free wasn't part of Debian. -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpvRerb4AIFQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pick a name, any name...
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:15:05PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > And there's already a Sibelius as a commercial software project; stay > > away from things that could raise trademark issues that way. > > This isn't about our sourceforge fork package name, it's about the machine > name. I thought it was about the service name, the machine already got one. Quoting Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "The machine itself has a name already (quantz)." -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpDC3igqPJuN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:19:03PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > NMUer time is better spent on really unmaintained packages. Amen. -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpydQfe90SCO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:49:14PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > How about we start from the simple issue of notifying maintainers and making > sure they are _aware_ of the exact problems? People can be reasonably alert > for fixing their packages without knowing what's that's going on in the > bigger scheme of things. One can argue about that being done through the d-d-a post. IMO it's just no big deal, nothing to get upset about ... > > Why get so upset about a, what I can tell from this discussion, working > > NMU. > > Nobody's upset. ... and I'm glad you're not :) > > Though, a BTS entry would have been good, it wouldn't have made the > > maintainer aware of the problem earlier (unless the NMU was delayed > > until the maintainer had a time to fix it himself, of course). > > The whole point of mailing beforehand is to leave it up to the maintainer to > fix the bugs in their packages instead of wasting effort on doing NMUs. What I'm trying to say is, does it really matter? Why not just make a maintainer upload when you have time, be it before or after the NMU enters the pool. For you the NMU seems like a waste of time, but it was not a waste of _your_ time, nor of the current maintainers (except for looking at a diff which changed nothing but the build-depends field from what I can tell, w/o looking at neither the package nor the NMU). -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpCs2nj5g1TZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:15:10PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > That depends on your mail-setup. IMHO it's reasonable to expect from DDs > > to follow -devel-announce without accidently overlooking a post there or > > two. > > Seeing the mail is one thing. Fully understanding it and grasping that > it affects one of your packages and needs to be acted on right now is > quite another, particularly since in the past this sort of thing has > always involved filing bug reports. Therefore the NMU. When you have finally understood the problem and solved it, either through incorporating the NMU or in your own way, you (the maintainer) can upload a new version. And by the use of DELAYED it does not even need to be installed in the pool before you react. Why get so upset about a, what I can tell from this discussion, working NMU. Though, a BTS entry would have been good, it wouldn't have made the maintainer aware of the problem earlier (unless the NMU was delayed until the maintainer had a time to fix it himself, of course). -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpdwXIxIEAmM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should we customize apps for a common "debian-look"?
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 05:26:03PM +0200, Peter Mathiasson wrote: > Because some admins, unlike the rest of us, thinks users want's to have s/want's/wants > software in their local language and use local keyboard layout, then we > indeed want's to have our software in english and us keyboard layout s/want's/wants > with local as an switchable option, right? -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgp4tQBjTHveo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should we customize apps for a common "debian-look"?
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 05:02:46PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > (But i HATE that druid of KDE... why do i have to select the language > and keyboard again? my admin already configured these...) Because some admins, unlike the rest of us, thinks users want's to have software in their local language and use local keyboard layout, then we indeed want's to have our software in english and us keyboard layout with local as an switchable option, right? -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpmuzJjwXWL7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:58:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > You are, of course, free to package your own private X > system. After all, you seem to think you have a clue about the > amount of work that entails. "People have managed to install it from sources in matter of HOURS (well, that didn't work for me, dunno why)." -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgp3nT5ZfeSil.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:30:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > First of all this isn't a Debian-specific change but a change in > glibc. Second vmware isn't Debian. Third Debian goes about free > software, vmware isn't. This is clearly the wrong list, either go to > some vmware list or go to the glibc lists if you think it's a bug in > glibc. Okay. So now we're not going to discuss things because they are not debian specific? > And yes, I think vmware is a waste of processing power and > bandwith. Those posts also waste my time. > > > Even though I haven't tried plex86 and bochs in about a year I've never > > heard anyone run Windows XP, FreeBSD, etc on any of them. > > Is it at all possible? Useable? > > I got GNU/Linux to boot on plex86. The Hurd doesn't work on it at the > moment (plex86 development is a bit stalled at the moment). IMHO it's > very usable, bochs is more stable but slower. For all supported > systems read the documentation of the packages. plex86 is Debian specific isn't it? Because, if it's not, I'm sure plex86 got some mailing list where you can move this. -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpfFrNqoUaqg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > It's your own fault. You choosed to run non-free software, now you get > the consequences. Debian doesn't support vmware, so go somewhere else > with your vmware problems. (Debian does support plex86 and bochs, BTW) *sigh* Do you always need to repeat this? Do you really think it's a waste of bandwidth and processing power to let the vmware users discuss a problem caused by a change in _Debian_? Even though I haven't tried plex86 and bochs in about a year I've never heard anyone run Windows XP, FreeBSD, etc on any of them. Is it at all possible? Useable? -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpyCBIaqXJdT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Description to man pages
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:03:52PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: > > Is it better than `apt-cache show foo` ? > > > No if you are a power user, otherwise yes. Beside not everbody has > apt-cache installed. I think most people do have apt installed. $ dpkg -S `which apt-get` `which apt-cache` apt: /usr/bin/apt-get apt: /usr/bin/apt-cache -- Peter Mathiasson, peter at mathiasson dot nu, http://www.mathiasson.nu GPG Fingerprint: A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpoSivUMfSFb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: potential runtime problem on arm, powerpc and s390 due to incorrect assumption on char signedness
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:46:44PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Gerhard Tonn wrote: > > >>The following code fragment will ignore the end-of-file when char is > > >>implemented using unsigned char, due to internal conversions between data > > >>types: > > >> > > >>char c; > > >>while ((c = getchar()) != EOF) > > >> process character in c > > > In other contexts the right solution is to make the type of the variable > > 'signed char'. > > No, the right solution here is make c of type `int'. getchar() does > not return a char for a very obvious reason: if it did one would not > be able to distinguish between a valid character read from the keyboard > and an error condition. Well, the original post said: "and the EOF is ignored. The correction is to make the type of variable c int." I guess that's why it says "in OTHER contexts". -- Peter Mathiasson | GPG Fingerprint: E-Mail: peter(at)mathiasson(dot)nu | A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 Web : http://www.mathiasson.nu | 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 The adress used in the From: header is valid until 2002/02/13. Please send messages to my real adress listed above. pgpWDyRfGUXRz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SUGGESTION: Re: Some thoughts about problems within Debian
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 01:45:01PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > +> the "help" tag already present and exactly for this purpose: > > > > Ola> Ahh it already exists! Cool. Well then it is a bug on the www pages. > > Ola> Missing here ... http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities > > > > But it exists here: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags > > "help" is a tag, not a severity level. > > Well now I'm confused. I can now see help but in the severity section. > So it is a tag, right? It is a tag, and it is listed in the tags section. -- Peter Mathiasson | GPG Fingerprint: E-Mail: peter(at)mathiasson(dot)nu | A9A7 F8F6 9821 F415 B066 Web : http://www.mathiasson.nu | 77F1 7FF5 C2E6 7BF2 F228 pgpHnat17wPor.pgp Description: PGP signature
