Re: Bits from the 10th Debian Groupware Meeting
Hi Martin, thank you for all the links. My main question was why it is not listed at all in the groupware wiki, you could easily list nextcloud/owncloud in the section "Groupware projects not currently considered for inclusion in Debian". I always had the impression that part of the motivation for owncloud to collaborate with downstream, that owncloud wanted to preserve their business model to sell enterprise support. For the technical part, I am wondering if that is still a real issue. I see the latest version 12.0.0 was released at May 22 2017, since then there was not even a bugfix release. Before, I remember that I have seen much shorter release cycles. So I can see multiple solutions 1) Debian includes nextcloud only in unstable and testing (probably most compatible with the nextcloud/owncloud business models, see also https:// help.nextcloud.com/t/will-nextcloud-be-inviting-to-distribution-packages/89/28 ) 2) If Nexcloud is interested to bring their software into the debian repo, they can help run their regression tests on the upgrade path implemented for Debian stable releases (which happens infrequently) 3) If only Debian is interested to have nextcloud, assuming that there are only 1-2 major nextcloud releases within a Debian release, Debian might be able to handle the upgrade path. Kind regards Rainer Am Donnerstag, 3. August 2017, 14:07:29 CEST schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Hello Rainer. > > Rainer Dorsch - 03.08.17, 13:12: > > Hi Guido, > > > > just wondering, did you consider nextcloud as groupware? > > Owncloud has been in Debian… and its past maintainers gave up on maintaining > it. For a part of the discussion see: > > Debian Bug report logs - #822681 > RM: owncloud -- ROM; Unfit upstream, uninstallable > https://bugs.debian.org/822681 > > [Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] Removing owncloud from jessie? > https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-owncloud-maintainers/2017-Marc > h/ 003200.html > > [Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] You want users to lose data?!?! > https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-owncloud-maintainers/2016-Febr > uary/002881.html > > > [Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] Bug#815963: Warn users about unsupported upgrade > path > [Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] Upstream making our life more and more painful > (Was: [owncloud-devel] Bug#815963: Warn users about unsupported upgrade > path) > https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-owncloud-maintainers/2016-Feb > ruary/002872.html > > Debian Bug report logs - #815963 > Warn users about unsupported upgrade path > https://bugs.debian.org/815963 > > I think unless there are significant changes in how upstream handles > updates… or… in the way how Debian handles webapps it may be difficult to > find a maintainer for official Nextcloud Debian packages. > > Thank you, -- Rainer Dorsch Beatus-Widmann-Str. 5 72138 Kirchentellinsfurt 07157-734133 email: fdb...@bokomoko.de
Re: Bits from the 10th Debian Groupware Meeting
Hi Guido, just wondering, did you consider nextcloud as groupware? Thanks Rainer Am Mittwoch, 2. August 2017, 19:44:14 CEST schrieb Guido Günther: > Hi, > The 10th Debian Groupware Meeting[1] was held on a weekend in April in > the LinuxHotel, Essen, Germany[2]. We were five people altogether. > > This is a short overview of what we worked on during the weekend: > > * The groupware page[3] got far more than the usual update and was > completely reworked. It now gives a better overview about client and > server packages already included in Debian and prospective new > packages. > > * Several bugs in Calypso were fixed including adding bcrypt support, > fixes for newer python-vobject and some patches towards python3 > support. > > * There was further work on getting zarafa-webapp initially into > Debian. This included adding support for different http servers. > A first upload is underway[4]. There was also work on updating > kopanocore and it's dependencies such as libvmime. > > * We made the preparations for the first upload of the now renamed > Icedove to Thunderbird to stable / oldstable. This included fixing > bugs in the profile migration and preparing updates for packages that > still had an unversioned conflict on Thunderbird. > > * Several bugs in DAViCal were fixed, reported or commented on and > there was some work on running tests with caldav-tester. Integration > with khal/vdirsyncer was also tested. > > * A new upstream snapshot of Radicale was uploaded to experimental. > Integration with vdirsyncer was tested. > > * A new upstream release of uWSGI was packaged and uploaded. Some of the > fixed bugs affected applications like Radiale. > > Again we had a mix of first timers, Debian Maintainers, upstreams and Debian > Developers with lots of room for discussion, barbecue and bug squashing. > > Cheers, > -- Guido (on behalf of the Debian Groupware Meeting attendees) > > [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/GroupwareMeeting2017-04-07to09 > [2]: http://www.linuxhotel.de/community.html > [3]: https://wiki.debian.org/Groupware > [4]: https://github.com/tijuca/zarafa-webapp -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/
Collect Suspend Tweaks
Hello, I was spending some time this afternoon to figure out how to make an ASUS P5N-E SLI board suspending. At the end the solution was simple teask, I just had to add acpi_sleep=old_ordering to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub Can I submit this information is a way to Debian such that others may find the solution quicker (beyond that search engines index this post)? I still have hibernate not working, it thaws immediately after hibernating, but this is of minor importance for me (see http://lists.debian.org/debian- user/2013/10/msg00169.html for details). Many thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310051758.36689...@bokomoko.de
Re: Collect Suspend Tweaks
On Saturday 05 October 2013 18:46:12 Norman García Aguilar wrote: On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:58:36 +0200 Rainer Dorsch m...@bokomoko.de wrote: Hello, I was spending some time this afternoon to figure out how to make an ASUS P5N-E SLI board suspending. At the end the solution was simple teask, I just had to add acpi_sleep=old_ordering to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub Can I submit this information is a way to Debian such that others may find the solution quicker (beyond that search engines index this post)? I think you might try https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus Many thanks, I added https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/P5N-E SLI Rainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310052043.06744...@bokomoko.de
Re: Collect Suspend Tweaks
On Saturday 05 October 2013 20:58:51 Norman García Aguilar wrote: On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:43:06 +0200 Rainer Dorsch m...@bokomoko.de wrote: On Saturday 05 October 2013 18:46:12 Norman García Aguilar wrote: On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:58:36 +0200 Rainer Dorsch m...@bokomoko.de wrote: Hello, I was spending some time this afternoon to figure out how to make an ASUS P5N-E SLI board suspending. At the end the solution was simple teask, I just had to add acpi_sleep=old_ordering to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub Can I submit this information is a way to Debian such that others may find the solution quicker (beyond that search engines index this post)? I think you might try https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus Many thanks, I added https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/P5N-E SLI Hi Rainer, I think it will be cool if you edit the P5N-E SLI wiki so it looks like other wiki pages about Asus Motherboards[0], and add a link in the InstallingDebianON/Asus wikipage [1] Regards, [0] https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/P5BDeluxeWiFi/etch [1] https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus Thanks again, added some more information, still not competitive with the other descriptions though. But I will add new information, if I find new stuff Rainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310052152.50455...@bokomoko.de
Re: zram Usage as Default in Debian (?)
Hi Cesare, sorry for the slow response, comments embedded. Am Monday 09 January 2012 schrieb Cesare Leonardi: On 07/01/2012 18:48, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I recently setup zram (for compressed swap space in RAM) on an older low RAM machine. I was quite happy with the result and started now to do the same setup also on my other machines. I am wondering if anybody is investigating, if debian should do that by default when installing a new machine or even better also when machines get upgraded. Hi Rainer. What do you mean saying that you are happy with the result? In what aspects? see below... I ask you because while i'm skeptical too in wasting ram for swap, i think i'll give zram a try to see the effects on responsiveness of dormant application. Let me explain. There is something that i find annoying in the default kernel setup and is its tendency to swap out to disk even when there are plenty free ram. So if you have an open application that you leave dormant while doing other things (that app could be also the Gnome menu, for example), when you'll need that you'll find a strange lag and unusual disk work. The system is swapping even if the ram is about 50% free! So, in the past, i've modified the kernel setting with vm.swappiness=0 (from the default=60). Now it's better but not sufficient to avoid swap: for example today, with an uptime of about 8 hours without suspend to ram or to disk, i have 47 MB of used swap. And i see its effect as lag when i want to restore from the screen saver or when i use the applet to change display brightness, and so on. I'm almost sure that there is some other parameter that i could change to avoid that preventive swap. In the past i've done some searches but i found that was not so easy, as some other related parameters had to be used with care. So i gave up. And i also know it's a debated area, where different points of view apply: IIRC Andrew Morton is one that is for vm.swappiness=100, to minimize wasting ram from least used applications, that are moved to the swap quite fastly. Probably if you have a super fast SSD the swap is not so perceptible. So, returning to zram, maybe have you seen good result from a responsiveness point of view? On one system, that is exactly, that is what I observe. Before disk swap was always used, now I have never seen that disk swap is ever used in this system: I posted this before: blackbox:~# swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsed Priority /dev/sddpartition 3910652 0 -1 /dev/zram0 partition 2070080 6360100 /dev/zram1 partition 2070080 6388100 blackbox:~# And certainly accessing zram is faster than accessing swap hdd. I do not see delays due to swap access anymore on my desktop.this was in particular visible, since I migrated to an SSD on that system (and left swap on a frequently spin down hdd). The other system is a low end system with 512 MB RAM and it is running KDE4. With zram the system is much more responsive than just with HDD swap space. In fact the point that i find interesting with zram is that, if you have plenty of free ram, you can use it as a swap area for the data that, on average on your desktop pc, the kernel will usually swap out (in my case always 100 MB). I guess that could have a positive impact on responsiveness of the least used processes. Now, the best solution would be to tweak the right kernel parameters to make it swap in a way i like more, rather than this hack. And the bad opinion expressed so far make me more pessimist. By the way, i'll give it a try. ;-) Let us know what is the outcome. I think it would be good if we would have quantitative benchmarksnext time, when I have access to the low end system myself, I could try to measure boot time + KDE login time + Iceweasel start time + digikam start time + libreoffice start time + shutdown time or something like that with and without zram It certainly does not measure responsiveness, but I hope that avoiding hdd swap space gives a total speedup Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rdor...@web.de jabber: rdor...@jabber.org GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: zram Usage as Default in Debian (?)
Am Sunday 08 January 2012 schrieb Thomas Goirand: On 01/08/2012 02:43 PM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 08/01/2012 01:48, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Hello, I recently setup zram (for compressed swap space in RAM) on an older low RAM machine. I was quite happy with the result and started now to do the same setup also on my other machines. I am wondering if anybody is investigating, if debian should do that by default when installing a new machine or even better also when machines get upgraded. [...] In my experience from using a zram + on-disk swap setup, performance is only good until the zram swap gets filled up. Then performance goes to hell because you'll be functioning primarily on your on-disk swap while your zram swap just acts as deadweight sitting around taking up memory. What I usually did at that point was to swapoff the zram swap to force everything into the on-disk swap, rmmod, and re-create the zram swap again to get free zram swap space. I don't think it's a good idea to make this default. I and my ex-employee had similar experience. I also wouldn't recommend it. Thank you for the feedback. I saw zram as another level of memory hierarchy with performance between (uncompressed) main memory and disk. But indeed I never saw a system going out of zram and swaping on disk. For me, zram was essentially a fast disk replacement and performed therefore (?) well. From your experiences it seems enabling zram by default needs at least more sophisticated algorithms, which decide when it is a good idea to enable zram and when not... For reference, my (desktop) system looks like blackbox:~# swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsed Priority /dev/sddpartition 3910652 0 -1 /dev/zram0 partition 2070080 6360100 /dev/zram1 partition 2070080 6388100 blackbox:~# i.e. instead of using a small fraction of disk, zram is used. Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201201082009.51628...@bokomoko.de
zram Usage as Default in Debian (?)
Hello,
I recently setup zram (for compressed swap space in RAM) on an older low RAM
machine. I was quite happy with the result and started now to do the same
setup also on my other machines. I am wondering if anybody is investigating,
if debian should do that by default when installing a new machine or even
better also when machines get upgraded.
Here is what I did:
(see http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/150355/#p150355 for more details)
/etc/modules: add zram
add (num_devices=number cpu cores)
rd@blackbox:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/zram.conf
options zram num_devices=2
rd@blackbox:~$
/etc/init.d/zram
#!/bin/bash
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: zram
# Required-Start:
# Required-Stop:
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Increased Performance In Linux With zRam (Virtual Swap
Compressed in RAM)
# Description: Adapted from systemd scripts at
https://github.com/mystilleef/FedoraZram
### END INIT INFO
start() {
# get the number of CPUs
num_cpus=$(grep -c processor /proc/cpuinfo)
# if something goes wrong, assume we have 1
[ $num_cpus != 0 ] || num_cpus=1
# set decremented number of CPUs
decr_num_cpus=$((num_cpus - 1))
# get the amount of memory in the machine
mem_total_kb=$(grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo | grep -E --only-matching
'[[:digit:]]+')
mem_total=$((mem_total_kb * 1024))
# load dependency modules
modprobe zram num_devices=$num_cpus
# initialize the devices
for i in $(seq 0 $decr_num_cpus); do
echo $((mem_total / num_cpus)) /sys/block/zram$i/disksize
done
# Creating swap filesystems
for i in $(seq 0 $decr_num_cpus); do
mkswap /dev/zram$i
done
# Switch the swaps on
for i in $(seq 0 $decr_num_cpus); do
swapon -p 100 /dev/zram$i
done
}
stop() {
# get the number of CPUs
num_cpus=$(grep -c processor /proc/cpuinfo)
# set decremented number of CPUs
decr_num_cpus=$((num_cpus - 1))
# Switching off swap
for i in $(seq 0 $decr_num_cpus); do
if [ $(grep /dev/zram$i /proc/swaps) != ]; then
swapoff /dev/zram$i
sleep 1
fi
done
sleep 1
rmmod zram
}
case $1 in
start)
start
;;
stop)
stop
;;
restart)
stop
sleep 3
start
;;
*)
echo Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}
RETVAL=1
esac
exit $RETVAL
END##
# update-rc.d zram defaults
Thanks,
Rainer
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Suspend to RAM breaks xorg in lenny (cornercase?)
config space on device :00:02.0 at offset 2 (was 383, writing 303) Jun 14 18:51:55 blackbox kernel: [ 133.044638] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:02.0[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jun 14 18:51:55 blackbox kernel: [ 133.044642] PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:02.0 to 64 Jun 14 18:51:55 blackbox kernel: [ 133.046490] Restarting tasks ... done. Jun 14 18:51:55 blackbox acpid: client 3362[0:0] has disconnected Jun 14 18:51:55 blackbox acpid: client connected from 3362[0:0] Jun 14 18:51:55 blackbox kernel: [ 133.112451] lp0 out of paper Jun 14 18:52:04 blackbox acpid: client 3362[0:0] has disconnected Jun 14 18:52:04 blackbox acpid: client connected from 4102[0:0] Jun 14 18:52:05 blackbox kernel: [ 143.591744] lp0 off-line Jun 14 18:52:05 blackbox acpid: client 4102[0:0] has disconnected Jun 14 18:52:05 blackbox acpid: client connected from 3362[0:0] Jun 14 18:52:05 blackbox kdm[3357]: X server for display :1 terminated unexpectedly Jun 14 18:52:05 blackbox kdm[3357]: Unable to fire up local display :1; disabling. Jun 14 18:52:14 blackbox acpid: client connected from 4142[0:0] Jun 14 18:52:15 blackbox acpid: client 3362[0:0] has disconnected Jun 14 18:52:15 blackbox acpid: client 4142[0:0] has disconnected Jun 14 18:52:15 blackbox acpid: client connected from 3362[0:0] Jun 14 18:52:15 blackbox kdm[3357]: X server for display :2 terminated unexpectedly Jun 14 18:52:15 blackbox kdm[3357]: Unable to fire up local display :2; disabling. After that I try to start a second X server (by starting a KDE session for a second user) and get X.Org X Server 1.4.2 Release Date: 11 June 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.2-10.lenny1) Current Operating System: Linux blackbox 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu May 28 15:39:35 UTC 2009 i686 Build Date: 15 March 2009 03:18:10PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Sun Jun 14 18:52:03 2009 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file Primary device is not PCI Could not get primary PCI info (==) Using default built-in configuration (44 lines) (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found If I try to start a second X server the same way before I did a suspend to RAM, that works flawless: X.Org X Server 1.4.2 Release Date: 11 June 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.2-10.lenny1) Current Operating System: Linux blackbox 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu May 28 15:39:35 UTC 2009 i686 Build Date: 15 March 2009 03:18:10PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Sun Jun 14 20:00:09 2009 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file New driver is intel (==) Using default built-in configuration (54 lines) (WW) intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory (II) Module ddc already built-in (II) Module i2c already built-in (EE) intel(0): Unable to write to SDVOCTRL_E for SDVOB Slave 0x70. (II) Module ramdac already built-in (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. SetGrabKeysState - enabled Any comments are very welcome, I am also happy to provide further information. Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rdor...@web.de jabber: rdor...@jabber.org GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Upgrade Pre-Report and Wireless Documentation
Hello, I was testing my USB WLAN stick on a lenny system blackbox:~# lsusb |grep Link Bus 008 Device 002: ID 2001:3c00 D-Link Corp. [hex] DWL-G122 802.11g rev. B1 [ralink] blackbox:~# It was running flawless on an etch laptop. The intention was to avoid having an upgraded lenny laptop without wireless. I will send in an upgrade report to help to make lenny even better :-) [footnote: I was wondering if the debian-release list is the right place or if a bug report against upgrade-reports is appropriate for an upgrade-report.] Getting the WLAN stick running was not smooth (and it still does not yet work in my wpa wireless network). But this is a different issue: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/12/msg01257.html While going through the wireless setup for the stick, I noticed, that I am pretty lost, when it comes to the wireless configuration in /etc/network/interfaces.The interfaces(5) man page points to iwconfig(8) and wireless(7) The wireless manpage and /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/DISTRIBUTIONS.txt.gz refer to Debian 3.0 (or later), I was wondering if this information is outdated? The wpa-* statements in /etc/network/interfaces guided me to to wpa_supplicant which comes with good documentation in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/. Does that mean that the wireless pointer in interfaces(5) is incomplete? I am wondering if there is documentation for the wireless setup in /etc/network/interfaces to get started for an inexperienced wireless user like me and I just did not find the getting started document. If not, I am wondering if it is worth to add a reference into the interfaces man page to wpasupplicant and add a paragraph what the wireless-tools and what wpasupplicant is used for. I am also frequently looking for example configurations for the most common setups (WEP, WPA, WPA2, etc...), but I did not find these either. But I cannot tell if these would cover a subset of APs that this would be worthwhile. I cc'ed Anthony, because he is maintainer of the ifupdown package which contains the interfaces manpage... Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rdor...@web.de jabber: rdor...@jabber.org GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
udev.rules configuration
Hi Marco, I am using udev since a few weeks for having dedicted mount points for usb devices. I added ## USB disk BUS=scsi, SYSFS_vendor=USB 2.0*, NAME=usbdisk%n ## Pentax Optio 33S disk BUS=scsi, SYSFS_vendor=Pentax, NAME=optio%n which works fine. It is somewhat annoying that with each upgrade of udev, I get a conflict with this configuration file. Certainly, I want all the enhancements of your new version. What I do then, I answer get the package maintainers version and I add my few lines again and again. I am just wondering, if there is a better way to do what I intend. If not, do you think, it is worth to open a wishlist bug for that? Another side effect of udev I noticed is that it seems to hide /dev/isdninfo so I mount the udev file system now to /udev instead of /dev, such that other tools can still use /dev/isdninfo. For a complete bug report, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=277315 Thanks for keeping the package uptodate, even if I have to edit udev.rules frequently ;-) Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 Icq: 32550367
Re: Re: foomatic unmaintained?
Samuli Suonpaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 03.09.02 21:45:32:
Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,
some weeks ago I was installing an HP OfficeJet and on the hpoj
mailing list somebody was pointing out that I need the latest
version of foomatic to get good results.but it seems that the
Debian foomatic-{bin,db} packages in sid are outdated. I contacted
the maintainer, Manfred Wassmann, but so far no response.
What exactly is the problem with foomatic you are having? I've used
first Woody's and later Sarge's foomatic and hpoj with my OfficeJet
G55 for a long time and they've always seemed to perform just fine.
Suonpää...
The HP syupported hpijs driver brings much better quality for color printing
than pcl3,... The foomatic package in Debian (all version use the same!) does
not yet have and hpijs entry for OJ6xx.
Rainer
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foomatic unmaintained?
Hello,
some weeks ago I was installing an HP OfficeJet and on the hpoj mailing list
somebody was pointing out that I need the latest version of foomatic to get
good results.but it seems that the Debian foomatic-{bin,db} packages in
sid are outdated. I contacted the maintainer, Manfred Wassmann, but so far
no response.
This could mean that the maintainer is simply to busy to respond and invests
his time better in maintaining the package than answering stupid email or
more likely that the package is unmaintained
In this case, maybe somebody familar with foomatic may want to take it...to
help to prepare Debian for the desktop for the masses.
Thanks.
Rainer
Re: gpm and X problem investigated
We discussed this previously (I think on debian-testing). The odd thing with the configuration is, that the user has to specify twice the mouse type (during gpm and during X setup). Even worse, if the user decides to use a PS/2 instead of a serial mouse, he has to change it at several places. Thus to me it seemed to be a good idea to configure the real mouse at gpm setup and reuse the settings within X by this repeat feature. The middle mouse button works flawless, if you select the Intellimouse protocol: Section Pointer ProtocolIntelliMouse Device /dev/gpmdata ... Rainer. -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: +49-711-7816-215 / Fax: +49-711-7816-288 Breitwiesenstr. 20-22D-70565 Stuttgart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NIS+ Client Support Available / libpam_unix help needed
Over the past few months (shortly after my ITP), Debian-NIS+ Client support was developed by a small group of non-Debian maintainers. I post on debian-devel, to make the effort known among the Debian developers and the SPARC users, who might work in a SUN NIS+ environment AND to ask for libpam_unix help (see below). To get access to the NIS+ client package (i386) for Debian (potato) include deb http://www.realbodo.de/ debian/ deb-src http://www.realbodo.de/ debian/ in your /etc/apt/sources.list To install your Debian system as a NIS+ client do apt-get install nisplus libpam-unix2 Then read the doc in /usr/share/doc/nisplus. The package is based on SUSE's libpam_unix2 package, because the nisplus provided from Thorsten Kukuk from SUSE) package does not work with Debian's libpam_unix. With Debian's libpam_unix the client machine must be in the admin group on the nis+ server. With libpam_unix2 there's no need for that security hole. Ben Collins is looking on the problem, but due to his many other functions in the Debian project, he is short of time. The integration of the Debian NIS+ package in the Debian distribution would proceed faster, if somebody else would be looking in the PAM problem. I think some experience with the libpam_unix implementation is required. Certainly, nis+ access would be an advantage. The packaging work was done by Michael Feger (University of Karlsruhe), testing and documentation was done by Sebastien Chaumat and Pascal Degiovanni(Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon). Both can be reached via the debian-nis+ mailalias [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to be added to the alias, please send a short email to me. Thanks. Rainer. -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
App crashes XServer
I am trying to display a commercial app on a Debian System (the application runs on a remote Solaris system). The application fails and crashes even the X-Server on a potato system. Can anybody tell me what the appropiate procedure is to report the bug (simply filing this message as a bug against the XServer does not make much sense, because the maintainer can't reproduce it). A short description: 1.) I run a remote application via ssh. 2.) The remote application demands 8 Bit color depth, otherwise it fails both on Soalris and linus. 3.) Switching to 8 Bit, I see the error X Error: BadName Request Major code 45 () Request Minor code 0 ResourceID 0x204 Error Serial #23 Current Serial #85 on a slink system. A potato system (other computer and graphics adapter) simply crashes the XServer (SVGA, Matrox MGA G200 adapter). Has anybody an idea how to proceed that 1.) The problem in the potato X-Server is fixed 2.) The tool runs on the linux system. Thanks. --Rainer.
Debian at Systems'99 in Munich, Germany (?)
On the German Debian list [EMAIL PROTECTED], an announcement of the German Linux magazin was posted, that there is some space for Debian (and other free projects like apache, kde, and gimp) reserved at Systems'99 in Munich. A computer (Athlon 500 oder PII/400), a 17 inch Monitor and Internet (2MBit Backbone) is provided. It seems that there is some limited budget for a hostel and eating. If anybody is interested, please post on the German Debian list. Thanks. --Rainer. ---BeginMessage--- Liebe Debian-User und Entwickler! Kurzfassung: Mögliche Organisation einer Debian GNU/Linux Präsentation auf der Systems in München: ein Demopoint steht kostenlos zur Verfügung - lediglich Unterkunft und Verplegung sind ungeklärt. Vorgeschichte: -- Wie der ein oder andere von euch vielleicht weiß, wird es einen etwa 1000 qm grossen LinuxPark auf der diesjährigen IT-Messe Systems (18.-22. Oktober in München) geben. Neben den 50 kommerziellen Ausstellern möchte die Messegesellschaft auch freien Softwareprojekten die Möglichkeit geben sich einem breiten Fachpublikum zu präsentieren. Dazu stehen kostenlose Demopoints (Bilder bei http://www.linux-magazin.de/systems/Vorbericht/) zur Verfügung. Unter anderem werden KDE, Apache und GIMP vertreten sein. Debian-Demopoint Natürlich wäre es sehr Schade, wenn das Debian GNU/Linux Projekt - als einer der Vorreiter der freien Softwarescene - nicht auf der Systems vertreten wäre ... Wir (d.h. das Linux-Magazin = Medienpartner der Messegesellschaft und Organisator des LinuxPark) hatten zwar bereits Kontakt mit Debian-Vertretern bezüglich der Besetzung eines Demopoints, aber durch eine Folge von Missverständnissen sind die Gespräche leider im Sande verlaufen. Da es keine zwei Wochen mehr bis zur Systems sind möchte ich euch deshalb bitten eine Präsenz des Debian GNU/Linux-Projektes auf der Systems hier auf der Mailingliste zu erörtern. Randbedingungen/Sponsoring -- Der Demopoint verfügt über einen ausgestatteten Rechner (Athlon 500 oder PII/400) inklusive 17 Zoll Monitor und Internetanschluss (2MBit Backbone). Der Stand ist sehr Zentral auf dem LinuxPark angeordnet (gegenüber von LinuxCafe) und wie bereits erwähnt zur Präsentation des Debian-Projektes kostenlos nutzbar (inkl. zwei kostenlose Austellerkarten). Das Problem ist natürlich, dass die Anreisenden Debian-Vertreter Unterkunft und Verpflegung benötigen. Dies sollte durch Sponsoren bewerkstelligt werden (denkbar wären hier z.B. JF Lehmanns und Corel). Die Geldgeber sind dann mit einem Werbeschild am Demopoint vertreten (Mehr Sponsoreninfos gibt es hier: http://www.linux-magazin.de/systems/Sponsoren.html. BTW: Firmen, die ihre Mitarbeiter zur Betreuung eines Demopoints freistellen zählen ebenfalls als Sponsoren). Details --- Falls ein Interesse von Seiten der Debian-User und -Entwickler für eine Präsenz am LinuxPark besteht, dann bitte ich euch die Details z.B. hier auf der Mailingliste so schnell wie möglich zu klären. tschau Bernhard Um sich aus der Liste auszutragen schicken Sie bitte eine E-Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] die im Body unsubscribe debian-user-de deine emailadresse enthaelt. Bei Problemen bitte eine Mail an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anzahl der eingetragenen Mitglieder: 738 ---End Message--- -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
Solaris NFS problems with potato / Release Notes
It is nearly impossible to compile a large software package on a NFS mounted partion on potato, when it is exported by Solaris 2.6 (UltraSPARC). A search in Deja News (Solaris NFS patch in comp.os.linux.*) found a couple of controversal postings. After installing the patch recommended by Linus 105379-05 ( stopping and starting the NFS-server on Solaris) the problems did not disappear. To illustrate the problem, I use the cvs source package and compile it on a local disc. Works well. Now I do it on an NFS mounted partition: $debuild [...] gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c vers_ts.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c subr.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c filesubr.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c run.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c version.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c error.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -I../zlib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c ./zlib.c gcc add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o classify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o expand_path.o fileattr.o find_names.o hardlink.o hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o scramble.o server.o status.o tag.o update.o watch.o wrapper.o vers_ts.o subr.o filesubr.o run.o version.o error.o zlib.o ../lib/libcvs.a ../diff/libdiff.a -lz -lcrypt -o cvs checkin.o: file not recognized: File truncated collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [cvs] Error 1 The error message is missleading, it is nearly random per run! Is anybody using potato with NFS exported Solaris partitions? Which patches did you apply? Did you try to compile large programs? Hello world programs work! Bob, I think, this issue should go into the release notes, because it may break systems running slink for months without any problems, until the patch was applies on the Solaris NFS server. Since the admin of the linux box might not be able to do the solaris patch it should go into the If the user doesn't read the upgrade notes for this package *before* upgrading, the upgrade will not run smoothly = the maintainer needs to clean up their package so this is not the case, but if this is impossible, the situation should be described on the main release notes page And the problem is ugly, because as normal user you will not note immediately, that something is going wrong, but you can possibly corrupt you NFS mounted data (usually the home directory!). I will send you a summary, as soon I get the problem solved. --Rainer.
Re: Solaris NFS problems with potato / Release Notes
On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 10:30:52AM +0300, Rainer Dorsch wrote: It is nearly impossible to compile a large software package on a NFS mounted partion on potato, when it is exported by Solaris 2.6 (UltraSPARC). A search in Deja News (Solaris NFS patch in comp.os.linux.*) found a couple of controversal postings. After installing the patch recommended by Linus 105379-05 ( stopping and starting the NFS-server on Solaris) the problems did not disappear. To illustrate the problem, I use the cvs source package and compile it on a local disc. Works well. Now I do it on an NFS mounted partition: $debuild [...] gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c vers_ts.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c subr.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c filesubr.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c run.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c version.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c error.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -I../zlib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c ./zlib.c gcc add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o classify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o expand_path.o fileattr.o find_names.o hardlink.o hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o scramble.o server.o status.o tag.o update.o watch.o wrapper.o vers_ts.o subr.o filesubr.o run.o version.o error.o zlib.o ../lib/libcvs.a ../diff/libdiff.a -lz -lcrypt -o cvs checkin.o: file not recognized: File truncated collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [cvs] Error 1 The error message is missleading, it is nearly random per run! Is anybody using potato with NFS exported Solaris partitions? Which patches did you apply? Did you try to compile large programs? Hello world programs work! We were having the same problem, but with NFS AIX. Here at [EMAIL PROTECTED], we are using AIX and Solaris for NFS servers. Trying to compile trivial programs worked, but something like cvs source failed with the same errors you have there only on the AIX servers running NFSv3. We went to 2.2.7 with the NFS 3 patches, the problem went away... I forget to say, that I am running # uname -a Linux rai16 2.2.7 #1 Mon May 10 15:53:20 CEST 1999 i686 unknown Where do I get these NFS 3 patches from? Thanks. -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215 -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
Compilation problems
In order to package nis+ utilities I upgraded a slink system to potato (apt-get, first libc6, then rest, then kernel 2.2.5 image). Now a face strange compilation problems, like for the cvs package $dpkg-source -x cvs_1.10.4-1.dsc $cd cvs-1.10.4/ $debuild [..] gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c hardlink.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c hash.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c history.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c ignore.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c import.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c lock.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c log.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c login.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c logmsg.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c main.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c mkmodules.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c modules.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c myndbm.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c no_diff.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c parseinfo.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c patch.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c rcs.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -I../diff -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c ./rcscmds.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c recurse.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c release.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c remove.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c repos.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c root.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c rtag.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c scramble.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c server.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c status.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c tag.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c update.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c watch.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c wrapper.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c vers_ts.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c subr.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c filesubr.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c run.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c version.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c error.c gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -I../zlib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -c ./zlib.c gcc add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o classify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o expand_path.o fileattr.o find_names.o hardlink.o hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o scramble.o server.o status.o tag.o update.o watch.o wrapper.o vers_ts.o subr.o filesubr.o run.o version.o error.o zlib.o ../lib/libcvs.a ../diff/libdiff.a -lz -lcrypt -o cvs checkin.o: file not recognized: File truncated collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [cvs] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/scratch/rainer/cvs/cvs-1.10.4/src' make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/scratch/rainer/cvs/cvs-1.10.4' make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 Couldn't run dpkg-buildpackage: Illegal seek rai16 09:43:24$ I do not think, that it is a cvs problem, because compiling other code seems to have problems too, like /usr/bin/ld: cuddZddGroup.o: invalid string offset 285212672 = 89 for section `.shstrtab' is quite popular. I would expect the problems more in egcs, libc6 or the kernel itself (the system rebooted this morning automatically). Any ideas what co8uld be wrong? The system was running slink rock-solid for months. rai16 09:55:37$ uname -a Linux rai16 2.2.5 #2 Fri Apr 16 18:58:40 EST 1999 i686 unknown rai16 09:55:40$ gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.91.66/specs gcc version egcs-2.91.66 Debian GNU/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release) rai16 09:55:43$ ls -l /lib/libc.so.6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 May 10 09:09 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.1.so -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
Re: Compilation problems
Finally, it turned out, that it is a bug in the NFS-code/-setup. When I copy the file to a local hard disk (even with cp from a NFS mounted disk), I can compile cvs without any problems (and even to times). Before it was impossible to get Code which does not segault. The NFS server is a SUN-UltraSPARC running Solaris 2.6. My mount options are ramona:/export/disk1/scratchnfs defaults 0 2 Does not look suspicious, does it? Can I do more experiments, before I report a bug? --Rainer. On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:50:11 +0300, Rainer Dorsch wrote: checkin.o: file not recognized: File truncated /usr/bin/ld: cuddZddGroup.o: invalid string offset 285212672 = 89 for section `.shstrtab' I would expect the problems more in egcs, libc6 or the kernel itself (the system rebooted this morning automatically). I see no similarities with other EGCS or libc6 problem reports. Any ideas what co8uld be wrong? The system was running slink rock-solid for months. It sounds much more like a hardware problem (try the suggestions of http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11) or having corrupted .debs installed (try forcefully reinstalling the current packages e.g. dpkg -OGR /archive). Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: [TESTME] Mozilla M4 .deb
On my potato system, I see a segmentation fault, before something is coming up: $ mozilla nsComponentManager: Using components dir: /usr/lib/mozilla/components nsComponentManager: Creating Directory /home/rami/rainer/.mozilla Registered Ok *** The NEW and Improved Mime being registered width was not set height was not set Reading file... Segmentation fault rai16 10:37:29$ uname -a Linux rai16 2.2.5 #2 Fri Apr 16 18:58:40 EST 1999 i686 unknown rai16 10:38:17$ ldd `which mozilla` not a dynamic executable rai16 10:38:22$ which mozilla /usr/bin/mozilla rai16 10:38:27$ less /usr/bin/mozilla rai16 10:38:39$ ldd /usr/lib/mozilla/apprunner libnsappshell.so = not found libxpcom.so = not found libraptorbase.so = not found libwidgetgtk.so = not found libraptorgfx.so = not found libgfxgtk.so = not found libgfxps.so = not found libgmbasegtk.so = not found libreg.so = not found libabouturl.so = not found libhttpurl.so = not found libsockstuburl.so = not found libfileurl.so = not found libgophurl.so = not found libftpurl.so = not found libremoturl.so = not found libxp.so = not found libnetutil.so = not found libnetcache.so = not found libnetcnvts.so = not found libmimetype.so = not found libnetwork.so = not found libnetlib.so = not found libraptorwebwidget.so = not found libraptorhtml.so = not found libraptorhtmlpars.so = not found libexpat.so = not found libxmltok.so = not found libjsdom.so = not found libraptorplugin.so = not found libjsurl.so = not found libsecfree.so = not found libmozjs.so = not found libpref.so = not found libimg.so = not found libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x4001f000) libpng.so.2 = /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x40049000) libmozutil.so = not found libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40076000) libplds3.so = /usr/lib/libplds3.so (0x40085000) libplc3.so = /usr/lib/libplc3.so (0x40089000) libnspr3.so = /usr/lib/libnspr3.so (0x4008d000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x400b7000) libpwcac.so = not found libgtk-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x400c9000) libgdk-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x401ea000) libgmodule-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x4021f000) libglib-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x40222000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40244000) libXi.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40247000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4025) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4025c000) libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x40302000) libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x40318000) libresolv.so.2 = /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x4031b000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4032a000) libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2 = /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2 (0x40 0) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4038c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) $ ls -l /lib/libc.so.6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 May 7 19:10 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.1.so rai16 10:42:14$ -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
Local IP address / Java Incompatibility
We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to find out, if it is a bug in Debian Linux or JDK? Additions to the included bug report: - $ hostname -i 129.69.183.3 gives the correct answer in a shell. - Debian 2.0 comes with jdk-1.1.5v5-1 Thanks. ---BeginMessage--- Hello! I have tried to get the IP address and host name of the host running my Java application using the following Java-Code: InetAddress inetadr = InetAddress.getLocalHost(); System.out.println(LocalIP:+ inetadr.getHostAddress()); System.out.println(LocalName: + inetadr.getHostName()); This works well for a SUN system, but I always get 127.0.0.1 and localhost on my Debian Linux system. Is this a bug in Linux-Java or is there any other way to determine the name and IP address of my localhost??? Can anyone help me? bye Thomas! Below are some of my System.Properties: -- listing properties -- user.language=en java.home=/usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/.. java.vendor.url.bug=http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport... file.encoding.pkg=sun.io java.version=cls:03/11/11-08:49 file.separator=/ line.separator= file.encoding=8859_1 java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc., ported by Rand... user.timezone=CET user.name=schwarts os.arch=x86 os.name=Linux java.vendor.url=http://java.blackdown.org/java-linux user.dir=/home/hiwi/schwarts/RAJava java.class.path=.:/usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../classes:/usr... java.class.version=45.3 os.version=2.0.33 path.separator=: user.home=/home/hiwi/schwarts ---End Message--- -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
Re: Local IP address / Java Incompatibility
Yes, it works now! Thanks. Could anybody think of negative implications of doing this reverse ordering of the localhost and ip address entries? Rainer Dorsch wrote: We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to find out, if it is a bug in Debian Linux or JDK? Put the hostname above the localhost entry in the /etc/hosts. I believe it's a libc/glibc fault. Joe -- Joe Carter Software Engineer Brite Voice Systems Ltd, Gatley, Cheshire. UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
Re: korganizer debian package
On Sun, 04 Oct 1998, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I packages korganizer for Debian. Currently it is not on the Debian ftp server, because of license problems (GPL programs linked against commercial libraries). Hi Rainer, thanks for the package and the announcement. Just one minor detail: We should not repeat that Debian nonsene in public. Of course, korganizer does not suffer from any licensing problems. It's Debian that has problems with their weird and rather irrational interpretation of the GPL. It's prefectly legal to distribute KDE programms in both source and binary form (that's why virtually all linux distributors do it) so there is absolutey no need to confuse users or potential users. Matthias, since I know, that there is nobody, who will complain about distributing korganizer, I did package and distribute korganizer. But since I do not know, if the kde or debian people can read the GPL better (I am not a lawyer, and therefore I am not trying to read it in that detail), there is at least an unresolved problem. I solution which would make everybody happy, would be to add this sentence to the KDE licenses (see second half of http://www.de.debian.org/Lists-Archives/de bian-devel-9809/msg00258.html). If the KDE people are right, the same thing is twice in the license. If the Debian people are right, the thing is at least once in the license. I am wondering which marketing argument is against this solution. I think many people would be happy (acroding to the download statistics of the package), if finally a decision could be made, and the problem is solved forever. To the debian developers: Do not post on kde-devel, because only subscribers can post there. The debian-devel list is open. Matthias If anybody needs the package, download it from http://www.ra.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~rainer/Download/korganizer -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215 -- Send posts to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send all commands to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Put your command in the SUBJECT of the message: subscribe, unsubscribe, set digest on, or set digest off ** This list is from your pals at NetCentral http://www.netcentral.net/ -- Send posts to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send all commands to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Put your command in the SUBJECT of the message: subscribe, unsubscribe, set digest on, or set digest off ** This list is from your pals at NetCentral http://www.netcentral.net/ -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
CD images of Slink
I am wondering, if anybody tried to build a CDimage of Slink. Will main fit on one CDROM? For hamm this problem was addressed pretty late (main, contrib, non-free) and the solution was acceptable at best. Or is this problem completely obsolete with Apt? Thanks. -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
Suse supports linuxconf
I remembered, that there was some time ago some discussion about linuxconf on the list. I just picked up, that Suse will support linuxconf (beside yast) in Suse 6.0 (release date: end of 1998). -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215
w3mir eats a lot of memory
w3mir or hamm eats a lot of memory when it is running for a while (days). Top looks like this PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 695 allmendk 3 0 372 9672 R 0 4.2 0.3 0:38 in.ftpd 223 rainer19 19 45412 21M 436 R N 0 3.8 70.5 309:52 w3mir Users complain, that they cannot work interactive at this machine. Is this a bug (memory leak of w3mir), a weakness of the kernel (w3mir eats all the memory for caching, if nothing else runs)? Any comments? -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libg++ in hamm?
I am wondering that there is no libg++ in hamm compatible with egcs. I know, that a lot of things moved to libstdc++, but for me things like the Integer class are still useful. Has somebody a libg++ debian package? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xfree86 3.3.1
I am wondering, if there is a bo version of Xfree86 3.3.1? This seems extremly important to me, since so many new (low end) computers come with ATI 3D charger graphics adapter, which requires 3.3.1. I think Debian should have a stable version, which installs smooth on a new computer. Is there a plan to release 1.3.1.r7 with the new server or is there already a resonable stable hamm system for these systems, which _can_ be installed from scratch without installing 1.3.1 and upgrade using the (several pages long) MINI-HOWTO. Thank you (could you include a CC to me, because I am reading only the archive of the mailing list). -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
I am wondering that NIS+ is not in the list of packages which are not yet available in Debian. Did nobody ask for it? Reference: http://www-vt.uni-paderborn.de/~kukuk/linux/nisplus.html -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bo - hamm
I was wondering, if anybody has a package, which does the upgrade from Debian to hamm (probably a simple shell script is sufficient). If so, I would like to install this script and try the hamm distribution. If not, wouldn't it be worth to do it? Thanks. -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-215 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
