Re: Debian Archive architecture removals
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 09:17:02AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > [Speaking for the debian-hurd team] > > Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 04 May 2015 08:28:22 +0200, a écrit : > > Maybe it's just about supporting and advertising debian-ports as > > Debian's official way to host second-class architectures. Maybe > > there's more to it. What are the current downsides of moving hurd-i386 > > and sparc to debian-ports? > > That's perhaps the best question to address. Being on master just for > being mirrored is not useful to such kinds of ports of course. In the > current status of the Debian infrastructure, there are however a lot > more consequences, which we can perhaps work on, so as to avoid making > hurd-i386 and sparc essentially disappear, and perhaps at the same time > to revive some debian-ports archs without overhead for ftp-master, > d-release etc.. Also perhaps more easily consider removing more archs > from master. I completely agree. And I also agree that moving to debian-ports makes patches harder to get merged, but if debian-ports becomes something more official, it may get slightly easier. > Perhaps we need a political decision here? -- Richard Braun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150505123552.gb27...@dalaran.sceen.net
Re: Debian Archive architecture removals
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 01:36:57PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Given that the package coverage of the Hurd continuously increased and > that it just released 0.6 of its core components[1] along with releasing > Debian GNU/Hurd[2], this strikes me as an odd time to throw the Hurd off > ftp-master. It's irrelevant. The Hurd isn't a popular system, few people actually use it, there are probably a lot more Debian mirrors than machines using them with hurd-i386 packages. It's simply not worth it. I'm not a Debian contributor but, as a Hurd contributor, it seems perfectly appropriate that the Hurd gets removed from there. On the other hand, I'm ready to provide resources so that things work nicely from debian-ports. -- Richard Braun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150505122710.ga31...@dalaran.sceen.net
Re: Debian Hurd installer fixed since 2014?
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 09:23:07AM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > The last time that I tried Debian Hurd, I couldn't even get it installed. > The machine that I was installing on had no network interfaces and didn't > need mail, so I told the Debian installer not to install any networking > stuff at all and that it had no network interfaces, un-checking all of the > checkboxes for mail and the like. The Debian installer dutifully hung > partway through the install, saying that it was configuring exim. Note that installing a mail transfer agent on an isolated system actually makes sense. It's one way between local users to communicate, and it's used by apt to notify you about some important changes when you install/upgrade packages. Besides, it's a pure Debian thing, unrelated to the Hurd. -- Richard Braun