Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Fabian Greffrath  wrote:
> I don't see what you mean by "iffy" tabbed browsing, what's wrong with
> tabbed browsing in Epiphany? And regarding Javascript, I have never
> experienced the issues you describe. Are you sure you are using the latest
> packages (i.e. browser and webkit-engine) from unstable? Have you reported
> your issues upstream?
>
>> Epiphany is actually the default browser in infinityOS.
>
> That's good to know.
>
> Thanks,
> Fabian

The tabbed browsing is greatly improved in 2.30. The forum post
editting bug seems to be isolated to vBulletin based-forums. I filled
a bug upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619197

Right now, infinityOS uses Epiphany 2.28 as it's based on Ubuntu
Karmic, but we'll likely be upgrading to Epiphany 2.30 (with the new
WebKit libraries) in infinityOS 1.1 due to the tabbed browsing
improvements.

Thanks,
Ryan


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Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Mike Hommey  wrote:
>
> opt-in like in the Options dialog ?
>
> "Show suggestions for navigation errors"
>
> "Use a suggestion service to help complete searches and URLs typed in
> the address bar"
>
> "Use DNS pre-fetching to improve load performance"
>
> There is even a "learn more" link above all these that points to
> http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=114836&hl=en
>
> Mike
>

Yes, I just feel those options should be "unchecked" by default. I
have filled a bug upstream:
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=44527

Thanks,
Ryan


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Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

>From the Ubuntu mailing list, in case of you aren't subscribed there:

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Dane Mutters  wrote:
> I think some of you would be interested in reading this page that
> (allegedly) documents some of the (allegedly) somewhat shady
> beginnings of Iron:
>
> http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/12/iron.html
>
> If this information is correct, then I heavily question that Iron is a
> worthwhile project/fork at all, as opposed to being a way to garner
> publicity and money from fear mongering and (amusingly enough) Google
> advertisements on their web page.
>
> --Dane

I wasn't aware of this when I posted this thread on the mailing list.
I still feel, however, the suggestion and DNS-prefetching features be
made opt-in.

Thanks,
Ryan


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Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ryan Oram  wrote:
> "Chrome Incognito Tracks Visited Sites"
> http://www.lewiz.org/2010/05/chrome-incognito-tracks-visited-sites.html
>
> This seems to be becoming a theme. As Chromium has much of the same
> privacy issues as Chrome (SRWare Iron is made from Chromium and the
> code is striped from Chromium), this "feature" is surely in Chromium
> as well.
>
> I find this completely unacceptable.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
>

The above seems to be an oversight on Google's part. But the fact that
it hasn't been fixed, despite being known for over a month, is a good
indicator that Google isn't too concerned about privacy...

Thanks,
Ryan


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Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

On 18 May 2010, Philipp Kern  wrote:
>No, we don't (unless trademark rules apply).  It's Chromium, not Chrome btw,
>that site doesn't speak a word about Chromium.
>
>Kind regards,
>Philipp Kern

Most of the privacy issues of Chrome are present in Chromium as well.
These "features" need to be removed or, at the very least, made
completely opt-in.

Thanks,
Ryan


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Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

"Chrome Incognito Tracks Visited Sites"
http://www.lewiz.org/2010/05/chrome-incognito-tracks-visited-sites.html

This seems to be becoming a theme. As Chromium has much of the same
privacy issues as Chrome (SRWare Iron is made from Chromium and the
code is striped from Chromium), this "feature" is surely in Chromium
as well.

I find this completely unacceptable.

Thanks,
Ryan


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Re: SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Fabian Greffrath  wrote:
>> With Mozilla disregarding H.264, the community needs a full
>> browser capable of H.264 video playback without the privacy issues of
>> Chrome.
>
> 
>
> You may need to install some additional gstreamer plugins, though.
>
> Cheers,
> Fabian
>

Epiphany has iffy tabbed browsing support and the Javascript engine is
incomplete (I can't edit posts on many forums for example). It's a
great browser and should be worked on, but we should take as many
avenues as possible.

Epiphany is actually the default browser in infinityOS.

Thanks,
Ryan


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SRWare Iron: Chromium without the data-mining

[Ryan Oram]

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php

This should become a full open source project with a community behind
it. With Mozilla disregarding H.264, the community needs a full
browser capable of H.264 video playback without the privacy issues of
Chrome.

We need to "Iceweasel" Chromium.

I'm willing to put the infinityOS team behind this, but I would like
the help and support of the Debian community.

Thanks,
Ryan


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