Re: Installation screen proposal (was Please test this woody cd image)
I think you're a little late... boot floppies are frozen, are they not? On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 03:08, Svante Signell wrote: Hello, When booting the Woody CD you are presented to the information screen giving general information and ways to get help, etc _before_ choosing which kernel to boot. After choosing kernel and booting, however, you immediately get to the 'Choose language', 'Choose Language Variant' and 'Release Notes' screens without any means to back out, correct mistakes etc. Finally after the first four screens you enter the 'Installation Main Menu'. I have the following proposal of an additional installation screen, as follows: = After the initial screen, and _before_ entering the language choice present another screen, telling the user what is happening next, eg: Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 3.0/Woody. You have chosen to boot kernel xx, eg bf42. The steps to follow next in the installation procedure are: 1) Choose Language 2) Choose Language Variant 3) Read Release notes 4) Enter Installation Main Menu When you enter the Main menu, several choices will be presented, and a default path for install will also be given. From there you will have the choice to back out of the installation if needed. If you feel unsure, need to get more information, make adjustments etc before proceeding you now have the choice to back out by removing the installation CD and press RESET or CONTROL-ALT-DEL now. This is also the way to go if you want to restart the installation using another kernel. For those of who are interested in the boot log you can do so by ... (enter text here) In my opinion this would help especially new Debian users to feel more comfortable with what is going to happen during the install. (I know that a graphical installer is in the works, but not until woody+1) Best wishes, Svante Signell Below follows unanswered question in an earlier posting. srs writes: Addtional boxes boot-tested with woody-isolinux: Boxdisksidepci bf24 Comapaq Presario 5640/5670 IDE OK OK Dell Dimension XPS 733rIDE OK OK Dual Celeron MSI6120 SCSI+IDE OK OK Em2 QDI Brilliant SCSI OK OK (compact tested OK too) Dell Inspiron 4100 laptop IDE OK OK A few comments about the installer program: 1. Is it possible to generate a boot log, and to be able to view it while installing? 2. It would be nice to be able to back out, or doing a reboot _before_ having to go as long as to the keyboard setup phase. You maybe changed your mind before coming that far: What am I doing?, I don't have all info available!, whats happening next?, I want to quit the install!, etc. 3. When coming to the part of the install where you have several choices, the reboot, restart and prevoius step options should be higher up in the menu. This enables you to see a way out of the install procedure, if needed. Eagerly waiting for the woody release, Svante Signell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 09:13, Jack Howarth wrote: I agree with Chris it that is insulting for folks to be degrading the other arch's supported by Debian. What is strange is that someone would feel strongly enough about having a choice in operating systems to run Debian Linux yet think that a i386-only world is just fine. The two monopolies go hand in hand (Intel and Microsoft). Lastly the presence of non-i386 architectures has helped even the i386 folks by forcing Linux and gnu to be more rigorous in programming. The just because it runs on i386 won't cut it with multiple arches and enforces the requirement of clean coding that is processor independent. I agree. I mean, I put effort into my code to as portable as possible, and love hearing from people, wow, your code compiled on OS Foo on architecture Bar, and that almost never happens with downloaded source!, especially when I've never even been near aforementioned Foo and Bar. By writing cross platform code, it even compiles cleaner and easier within the x86 environment as well. Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why XFree86 4.2 Isn't in Woody
On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 15:05, Ben Collins wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:01:06AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: A couple of people on a recent thread in debian-devel linked to a message I recently posted on Slashdot on this subject. I had thought about posting this information to Debian's lists as well, but at the time, didn't see a need. Thanks to that recent thread, now I see a need. :) What the fuck is going on! When in this insane world did Branden become the polite well mannered one, and I become the asshole! I see what's happening. Mr. Collins didn't want to give up the DPL position, so he paid a candidate to switch Internet identities. I'm on to you now, Mr. Collins. I shall spread news of this misdeed all across this single e-mail, thereby alerting the 6.13 people who actually read it, none of whom really care. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 06:47, Russell Coker wrote: I don't know which sub-version of the GeForce cards I'm using, I just got whatever was cheapest at the time (you'd have to be crazy to buy a high-end NVidia card - they release new models every 6 months and the old models then sell for less than half price). Wow. Good point. I feel retarded now. (Sean's wallet is hurting after he replaced one of his old video cards which melted with a Geforce3 Ti 500 at x-mas.) When I plopped in the nVidia binary drivers, tho, I sure know it looked great. ^,^ Zangband has never looked so crisp... -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has 4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
Ack, I don't like doing this, but I'm provoked now... massive uncharacteristic flamage Fucking idiot!!! On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 23:30, Lasse Karkkainen wrote: Forgot to cc this to the list.. The message is attached. From: Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Pool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again Date: 16 Apr 2002 06:28:50 +0300 I think your case would be more convincing if you mentioned some particular reason why Debian ought to upgrade. Presumably it supports more cards or something. Having the current version is not super important in and of itself. It's the hardware support. People are getting sick of VGA/VESA. I thought that it would be obvious. I own some of the most recent/exotic video hardware out there, and it works fine on Debian. I'd say there are less video cards that fail to run on X 4.1 than there are video hardware Windows never has a chance of supporting (read: big SGI coolness) Hey, guest what, most of the odd drivers that *don't* work at 100% don't work in 4.2 either, because the hardware companies didn't release specs. If you have one of the 3 chipsets only supported in 4.2, there is nothing stopping you from installing that. Except that you are instead mucking around spouting ideas straight from your ass on a mailing list, instead of learning how to do what you need to (i.e., build X). I think Debian should put all its resources right at the moment into a freeze first of all. So, Debian has a fixed number of developers, all working at 100%? I thought that it was fuzzy number of developers working when they feel like they are able and want to code (which is what free software is all about, IMO). Yes, you are right. And Free Software should also have the advantage of not having assholes shove their values down the developers' throats with absolutely no contributions of their own. Give me, and everyone else, one good reason why we should listen to your ideas? Why we should get rid of a developer that made better X packages than any other distro? Why Debian can't want a moment longer for X 4.2, instead of letting the dumbasses flood the low-quality distros? Nobody is stopping you building your own version of XF86 4.2 debs and putting them up on a web page, or encouraging/paying other people to I guess you didn't read my original message: the problem is that I know next to nothing about Debian. That's obvious. If you don't know anything about Debian, how in all the fucking hells do you expect to be able to encourage developers to make better packages? You do *NOT* understand a single goddamn thing you are talking about. You know this. We know this. Why the hell can't you accept that? You might as well try to tell a nuclear physicist how to do *his* job. do so. Mere assertion that other people could do a better job than Branden is not very persuasive. Maybe not *better* job, but they could do it *now* .. Also, if Branden is working on 4.1.0, why doesn't someone else do 4.2.0? Sounds like two separate projects to me. Why the hell would we want a sub-par package in Debian? You said you are willing to pay a developer to package X4.2... go ahead and do so. That shitty package won't be in Debian, but you can use it. Now isn't important. Stability is. I've used now based distros, and guess what? They crash and lockup a *lot*. (that being once a week or so, which is a lot for me.) You are fully free to use one of them instead of Debian. What comes to encouraging other people - guess what I'm doing right now. Encouraging them to what? Again, you have no idea what the hell you are talking about, as you stated yourself. Learn what the hell you're talking about *first*, then try to help the project. Trust me, it doesn't work well doing those in reverse. At reasonable rates, I would expect it to cost at least USD1, possibly a lot more, to build and test a reasonable combination of platforms and systems. I believe Unstable (or even Testing) is for testing and there surely are people willing to test it. Putting it together so that it runs on i386 really shouldn't be a big problem for any Debian developer. Well, hey, guess what? You're wrong! Again, you don't know what you're talking about. What you believe testing or unstable for is irrelevant. If you want to know what they *are* for, it's clearly documented on the Debian website, which it seems you have read much on. Remove your head from your ass, go to the website, and try this thing called learning for a bit. Other platforms aren't nearly as significant as i386 (not many users, no much new hardware). I don't recall this being named Debian GNU/Linux x86. Debian is multi-platform by nature. That's how it works. If you don't like it, there are plenty of x86 only distros out there for you to annoy the hell out of. So what if he names you? Then I'll be spending lot of time in
Re: Supermount
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 22:29, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Em Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:06:23 +0200, David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Automount will mount the medium as soon as you access it. I fail to see any use of mounting a medium when it is put, and before it is accessed. The medium will be unmounted after a 'user defined' time. I've chosen 5 seconds, so at most, I'll have to wait 5 seconds between the last time I access the medium and the moment I want to eject the medium. I cannot get nautilus or gmc to work well with automount... will they work with supermount? I'd be willing to try this stuff if so... Sort of. Last I tried, Nautilus still wants to do the mounting/unmounting thing, which it shouldn't do. I think Mandrake had some patches for cleaning it up (i.e., removing the mount/unmount options, and making Eject work as it should) []s! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gustavo Noronha http://people.debian.org/~kov Debian: http://www.debian.org * http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supermount
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 05:17, David Findlay wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there a particular reason why Supermount couldn't be included in the debian unstable kernels as an option? It works brilliantly on Mandrake, and makes things much easier to use. Thanks, Supermount is horrendously unstable. Of all the hard kernel crashes I've ever had (like, say, 4?, not counting the non-Linux friendly laptops...) 3 were caused by supermount. I'd say you hack on Supermount and stabilize the hell out of it. Also, perhaps kernel 2.6/3.0 will have this kind of functionality as is, since everything will supposedly be hot-swappable - and I don't see why hot-swappable CD-ROM's and floppies can't be done. And, in response to the other posters on this thread, automount does *not* provide equivalent functionality. First, because it doesn't take time to unmount. Second, because of the mounting/unmounting, it provides an excess amount of time waiting for media to be mounted. Third, it doesn't let you eject while it's in use, which is actually a problem, because sometimes you *need* to eject while in use. If umount had an option (even as root) to unmount/eject when in use, then there wouldn't be a problem. But when a process goes into disk sleep mode, and never comes out of it, on a CD that other apps read just fine, and you can't eject the CD without rebooting the entire server/workstation... well, it sucks, to say the least. David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8upqyx58m2d272NoRApsnAKDZu1OzQMjIgUFNFfB2YBS14JMYuACfe9T9 5X/WQm7LSJBvVoQYkZiexCg= =12Ag -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supermount
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 16:54, David Odin wrote: Well, the main problem I have with supermount and not have with automount is the following: I'm a CS teacher, and the linux distribution in the computer room is mandrake. And, very often, a student use supermount to mount a floppy, do some stuff, but manage to log off with the floppy still mounted. Then, the next student using the same computer cannot use the floppy, since it is still mounted. Only root can unmount then, and that's very boring. Why is the floppy being mounted/unmounted at all? If you have supermount, the point is quite simply that you do not have to mount/unmount once the device is mounted; you are mounting the device itself, not the medium. If you don't want supermount in Mandrake, just remove the supermount settings from /etc/fstab, unload the kernel module, and no student should be able to mount w/ supermount anymore. DindinX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supermount
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 11:27:15PM +0200, David Odin wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 05:12:26PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 16:54, David Odin wrote: Well, the main problem I have with supermount and not have with automount is the following: I'm a CS teacher, and the linux distribution in the computer room is mandrake. And, very often, a student use supermount to mount a floppy, do some stuff, but manage to log off with the floppy still mounted. Then, the next student using the same computer cannot use the floppy, since it is still mounted. Only root can unmount then, and that's very boring. Why is the floppy being mounted/unmounted at all? This is the point: the floppy is mounted by supermount, and never unmounted! My point - it doesnt *need* to be unmounted with supermount. It's not ever supposed to be unmounted. The device is mounted, not the medium. If you hav supermount, the point is quite simply that you do not have to mount/unmount once the device is mounted; you are mounting the device itself, not the medium. If you don't want supermount in Mandrake, just remove the supermount settings from /etc/fstab, unload the kernel module, and no student should be able to mount w/ supermount anymore. I don't have a Mandrake at home, thanks. In the computer classroom, I have the root passwd (I'm a teacher, not the admin), so i cannot edit /etc/fstab or whatever, and anyway, most of my student are unable to mount anything by hand. Imho, the way to go is to use automount there. Alright... well, then the students should put in a floppy, use it, eject it, put in another floppy, and repeat. The floppy should be mounted at boot time, by root, and never ever unmounted until the system is shutdown. That is what supermount does. Removes the need to mount/umount by users. DindinX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dialog alternatives
Hi all, Just out of curiosity, should there be alternatives for dialog/xdialog? I mean, on my system, I'd rather have gdialog used instead of xdialog (for GUI consistancy with my other apps, which are 95% gtk/gnome). For some scripts I've written, I've checked for X: if X exists, it thens finds an X based dialog program (looks for gdialog, then xdialog, then defaults to text dialog); if no X, then it just uses dialog. I'd imagine a lot of other scripts do similar, or just default to text dialog, which can be inconvenient, espcially when launching said script from a Window manager/desktop menu. So, back to my point (wow, I actually had one?), should there be an alternatives for dialog, so we can at least simplify the scripts to launch xdialog when X11 is around, launch text dialog otherwise, and leave the actual GUI implementation of the xdialog program up to the sysadmin? Sean Etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 20:03, John Hasler wrote: Sean Etc. writes: So, back to my point (wow, I actually had one?), should there be an alternatives for dialog, so we can at least simplify the scripts to launch xdialog when X11 is around, launch text dialog otherwise, and leave the actual GUI implementation of the xdialog program up to the sysadmin? Is xdialog _fully_ dialog-compatible? I had pppconfig set up to use gdialog when available for a while but I had to drop it because gdialog kept breaking. Hmm, good point. I haven't had a problem with xdialog or gdialog, but I haven't used them extensively, either. Perhaps bugs should be filed against them, for their lack of compatibility, if indeed there are problems? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 22:40, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: I haven't looked at xdialog lately. I just did. It almost works. What, pray tell, doesn't work? Also, since I wouldn't know what things to test, how badly is gdialog broken? There are no filed bugs on gnome-utils regarding missing functionality (that I can find; I've been known to be an idiot). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 08:30, Russell Coker wrote: On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 15:18, Mark A. Morris wrote: I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). We are currently releasing our first computer game - Uplink. Uplink is a puzzle / adventure game set on the internet of 2010. We have both windows and Linux versions available, and we are hoping to work with various Linux distributions in a mutually beneficial relationship. We are asking you to include a copy of the Uplink demo with your Linux distribution, we get the benefit of publicity and your users get the benefit of playing a high-quality Linux game. We have already had success with Mandrake, and now we are hoping you will consider our offer. If you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to contact me. Let us know when you've published the source to the Demo and we'll consider it. There's always Contrib. I think having game demos in non-free/contrib of Debian would be awesome. Yes, you're helping the companies make money, but you're also making Debian a little more attractive to the average consumer. Without any commercial interest in Linux/BSD/etc., none of them would have gotten quite as far as they have (those companies *have* sunk lots of money and manpower into our efforts). Games are one of the things that push consumer hard-ware and driver developments to the max. ^,^ -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has 4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 09:50, Russell Coker wrote: On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:01, Sean Middleditch wrote: I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). We are currently releasing our first computer game - Uplink. Uplink is Let us know when you've published the source to the Demo and we'll consider it. There's always Contrib. Which can't be included on CDs or DVDs and generally doesn't get seen much. Ah, I didn't know that. Sorry. ^,^ (I should bother looking thru what my CD's actually have on them...) I think having game demos in non-free/contrib of Debian would be awesome. Yes, you're helping the companies make money, but you're also making Debian a little more attractive to the average consumer. Why not set up a separate site for Debian packages of game demos? There's currently a site with an aptable list of DIVX/CSS/etc, there's a site with KDE betas, why not a site with game demos? That's an idea. Doesn't Ximian provide this for games with RedCarpet (They do with RedHat, I know that)? Maybe you could run such a site and use it to promote your AwesomePlay company? I doubt that your company would be seen as a competitor of Introvision and they would probably be happy to work with you. Maybe they'd even pay you to produce the Debian packages of their software? Heh. If only I was that talented. I'll look into it, tho. I had started Open Games, and sort of lost interest... maybe I could start that back up again. ^,^ (With a site design that doesn't induce vomitting, like the current one.) -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has 4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 10:18, Russell Coker wrote: On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:10, Sean Middleditch wrote: Maybe you could run such a site and use it to promote your AwesomePlay company? I doubt that your company would be seen as a competitor of Introvision and they would probably be happy to work with you. Maybe they'd even pay you to produce the Debian packages of their software? Heh. If only I was that talented. I'll look into it, tho. I had started Open Games, and sort of lost interest... maybe I could start that back up again. ^,^ (With a site design that doesn't induce vomitting, like the current one.) It's not that difficult to do. Also you could sub-contract parts of the work out to some of the people here if you can't do it all. I'd consider doing some of the work. ^,^ Well, I'm right now looking over my current resources (i.e. time, web space, experience, etc.) and I think the only problem I'd really have is that I have the web design talents of a diseased monkey on a stick. (As you can see from looking at any of the sites I've worked on all by myself - the only things I've done that are good my best friend, who is an awesome artist, helped with.) However, starting a site for this with just one game isn't quite worth the effort, and Loki is out of it, so I'd need to find other game companies to work with (already added id to the list, and going to add bioware/infogrames). I suppose with some help, slapping together a debiangames.org, including an apt-gettable list of game demoes, gaming news regarding packages in Debian, forums, etc. wouldn't be bad. It's just getting the companies to let us package the games, and building the site content (I hate the way every 4 out of 5 oss/linux sites are just PHPNuke or one of its cousins - it gets very old very quickly) I'll go ahead an e-mail some of the game companies, if you or anyone else really wants to help, I can get debiangames.org registered and find a decent host. ^,^ -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has 4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 13:40, Rob Bradford wrote: On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 16:32, Sean Middleditch wrote: I'll go ahead an e-mail some of the game companies, if you or anyone else really wants to help, I can get debiangames.org registered and find a decent host. ^,^ We can host this on the debianplanet.org machine, which has surplus bandwidth and cpu cycles =) Well, sweet. Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] said he has installer packages for Uplink. When I get home today (at work now) I'll find the e-mail address for various Linux game companies, and see what we can come up with. Now just need someone with passable site design skills to build a site (because mine would be just plain text, which isn't very fitting for a gaming site). Maybe we can have articles for Debian specific gaming issues and so on, as well. ^,^ Cheers -- Rob 'robster' Bradford http://robster.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question before buying GNU Debian
I run nVidia hardware on my Debian install. Debian stable (potato) has older XFree86 packages; they should support unaccelerated TNT2's fine tho (someone correct me on this if I'm wrong). If you want full acceleration, you'll need to upgrade to XFree86 4.1 after installing Debian (or get your hands on Woody/Sid CD's, which are experimental/unstable but more up to date versions of Debian; you can also find Potato versions of XFree86 4.1 fairly easily), and then install the nVidia drivers from the nVidia website. If you want to support Debian, many vendors allow you to make contributions with purchases of Debian CD's. On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 15:57, Christian Banik wrote: Dear Debian Team I would like to install GNU Debian Linux on my computer, actually my PC is running with SuSE Linux 7.3. My question: I have a 32 MB NVIDIA Riva TNT 2 Modell 64 / Modell 64 PRO Graphic Card, which is full supported by SuSE Linux. Is this hardware supportet by Debian too? I don't know if this is the right adress to ask for it, but I don't find a hardwaresupport side on Your homepage. You wrote on Your homepage that you don't make any profit selling CD packages. So it isn't possible to support the (original Linux) GNU Debian project by buying a CD package? I'm a Student and have not so much money but if it would help You I would buy one! Many thanks for Your efforts, and the best for Your future! Christian Banik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian.rpm
On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 12:11, David B Harris wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:56:58 +0100 martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it would be possible, you know. an RPM that basically substitutes every installed RPM by the corresponding DEB. that would rock ;) Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) But it would be feasible to package up a Debian chroot in an RPM. Too bad it would have to be huge to have a reasonable subset of useful Debian packages :) All you'd need is the very basics. (libc, dpkg, apt, basic shell tools, etc.) Then the user could apt-get whatever else they need, or install from a Debian CD. ^,^ This would be a lot like how some distros let you run Linux inside a Windows partition, except it'd be Linux in a Linux partition (so RedHat/etc. users don't have to repartition to try Debian). Dave
Re: A language by any other name
On Wed, 2001-09-26 at 20:50, Ben Burton wrote: British English is beautiful where it appears in poems, plays, and novels by Shakespeare and Wilde and other brilliant English authors. It certainly does NOT belong in the ls man page. Why such emphasis? The idea is to spell words like colour instead of color, not to write the ls man page in iambic pentameter. I am reminded of an email I saw some years ago with error messages in Haiku. I think I'd RTFM a lot more if the man pages *were* in Iambic Pentameter... ~,^ Ben. :) Sean Etc.
