Re: Debian 7
Darac == Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk writes: Darac On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 01:49:56AM +1030, Mikael Livchenko wrote: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual Debian wheezy -- Installation Guide What is Debian wheezy? I only downloaded 'Debian 7'. Darac Wheezy is a brand. It's not really any different than Snow Darac Leopard or XP. Do you expect people to care that one is Darac 10.6.8 and the other 5.1.2600? Mikael makes a good point even if the tone in the rest of his email was totally uncalled for (and, IMHO, plain wrong - mailing lists rule, dude!). Debian does not need to follow the stupidity that Apple and Microsoft have blessed us with. Call it Wheezy. Or call it Debian 7.0. Or even Debian 7.0/Wheezy. But not two different names, both seemingly randomly used in different parts of the same documentation chain, for the same stable release. It brings no value to anyone who is not intimately familiar with the development process (i.e. users). I've used and evangalized Debian for over 15 years now, and I believe this is the one complaint that never seems to go away! Though that only goes to show what an awesome distribution it is :-) Cheers (and congratulations to y'all on releasing Wheezy)! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ehdh2clj@dallas.rhythmnetworks.com
Bug#285397: RFP: wmctrl -- Control a EWMH/NetWM compatible X Window Manager
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: wmctrl Version : 1.05 Upstream Author : Tomas Styblo [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL or Web page : http://sweb.cz/tripie/utils/wmctrl/ * License : GPL Description : Control a EWMH/NetWM compatible X Window Manager Wmctrl is a command line tool to interact with an EWMH/NetWM compatible X Window Manager (examples include enligthenment, icewm, kwin, metacity, and sawfish). . Wmctrl provides command line access to almost all the features defined in the EWMH specification. For example it can maximize windows, make them sticky, set them to be always on top, it can switch and resize desktops, and perform many other useful operations. I have Debianized this package, including writing a man page for it (which I'm sending upstream). I'm not a DD so I'm hoping some one can take this over, or otherwise sponsor it for me (which is a route I'd be happy to follow). In any case please contact me if you are prepared to upload this so I can send you the debianized diff. Best regards, Shyamal
Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian
Jarno == Jarno Elonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jarno I'd really hate to lose something like Reiserfs from Debian Jarno just because of a few unpolite mails back and forth. Well, if we do lose something because of a few unpolite emails alone I don't think it qualifies as being free enough to be in Debian to start with, right? Not that I'm suggesting being rude to upstream, but if it was about opinions there's a few people who'd like to see my OS masquerading as an editor go away too ;-) Cheers! Shyamal
Re: reliable streams over UDP
Russell == Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell I want to be able to deal with asymetric links and Russell end-points that change IP address so TCP won't work. TCP works well with asymmetric data flows. I think you should consider this carefully before dropping TCP for this reason. For IP address changes I presume your application will require some signaling to determine what the new IP addresses are? If so, be sure to consider how much more expensive this is than setting up a new TCP connection each time (three packets + slow start to get to max flow capacity). In most applications I have found TCP is good enough. The only thing TCP is very poor at dealing with is head of line blocking. However this is not a problem that is easily solved with UDP hacks either if you actually do worry about congestion control and fairness. I *am* second guessing you, but do think about it. Russell Surely someone must have written something similar to TCP Russell but implemented on top of UDP. Too many people have tried this ;-) Try SCTP, a recent attempt to deal with the reliable UDP solution: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2960.txt ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3309.txt and for some implementations look around at http://www.sctp.org/ Good luck! Shyamal
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
Lasse == Lasse Karkkainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely this is a troll? Lasse Nope, I'm for real. Maybe a bit provocative, but for real. No way! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please test this woody cd image
Anthony == Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Anthony Seriously: everyone reading this mail, burn a copy of Anthony Raphael's test image on a CD and try booting it in any Anthony computers you have handy. If it doesn't work on a machine Anthony where a potato CD does boot, please mail the lists! It failed to boot an IBM Aptiva 2161-C8E desktop with a 1/19/1997 BIOS. This 166Mhz Pentium box has been my trusty machine for 5 years, and boots the potato r3 CD and also another woody netinst ISO (the one found starting at www.debian.org, based on boot floppies 3.0.19 and downloaded from http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst, which is also SYSLINUX based and it works great on this machine). Anyone clue me into why my IBM won't boot this CD? Raphael's ISO works boots up just great on a Compaq Armada M300 laptop, and my Soyo Dragon+ based desktop (Award BIOS, KT266A, which also works with Raphael's multiboot images). Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please test this woody cd image
Mike On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:38:00AM -0500, Shyamal Prasad Mike wrote: It failed to boot an IBM Aptiva 2161-C8E desktop with a 1/19/1997 BIOS. This 166Mhz Pentium box has been my trusty machine for 5 years, and boots the potato r3 CD and also another woody netinst ISO (the one Mike Well, I guess the question is do we want to support new Mike machines or old machines; it doesn't seem that we can do Mike both. (I'd vote for the former because we need to move Mike forward, and it's not like we're removing the floppy boot Mike option.) No disagreement there. I don't mind if my old PC doesn't boot off the first CD, and I'm all for better support for new hardware. The issue I wanted to highlight was that a bf 3.0.19 based netinst ISO works great on this machine(http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst) with all the syslinux features (I can choose a kernel, hit F3 for help, etc.). However, the image Raphael requested testing for does not. What'd done differently? I'm not boot expert, but it seems possible that a small change might make this CD more usable on a wider range of machines (since I have found at least on syslinux based CD that does work). My machine is old, but not unmodern - it's got PCI and USB support, has booted every other CD I've ever come across, and has the right horse power to make a good Linux machine. I'm at work and I can't look at my CD, so if I got some detail wrong don't shoot me. Cheers from the ingoramus! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please test this woody cd image
Shyamal The issue I wanted to highlight was that a bf 3.0.19 Shyamal based netinst ISO works great on this Shyamal machine(http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst) with all Shyamal the syslinux features (I can choose a kernel, hit F3 for Shyamal help, etc.). Ummm...I may be talking through my hat here. Maybe I couldn't choose a kernel, but it *did* boot. To the first image.I'll have to check when I get back home how much control I had /Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
