Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2010-03-13 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Michael Meskes wrote:


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 09:00:09PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:

Is anyone from Debian planning on attending the Linux Foundation
Collaboration Summit? I'm particularly interested if someone is


Yes, I will be there.


Michael,
Since you'll be there, please raise the issue of the LSB not
publishing source in a timely manner and in a convenient format for the
LSB development tools[1]. Currently, when they remember to publish source,
they do it as a set of individual source rpms instead of a single .tgz which
would be much easier to deal with.

I've filed a bug on this[2], and discussed it with a member of the LSB
for several months prior to that, but last time I checked a couple of week ago,
nothing has changed.

As it is, I've all but decided to orphan, or request the removal
of the packages because they are more of a pain to maintain than I think
they are worth, given the few (if any) users of the packages. Please note,
I'm only talking about the development related packages, not the run-time
support packages such as lsb-base, et al.


Stuart

[1] lsb-appchk, lsb-build-base, lsb-build-cc, lsb-pkgchk
[2] http://bugs.linuxbase.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2737


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Bug#385984: ITP: php5-ming -- PHP module for libming

2006-09-04 Thread Stuart Anderson
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: php5-ming
  Version : 5.1.4
  Upstream Author : Stuart Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.libming.org/
* License : PHP License
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : PHP module for libming

This package provides a module for ming functions in PHP scripts. The
ming library is used to creates Adobe Flash output.


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Bug#385983: ITP: php4-ming -- PHP module for libming

2006-09-04 Thread Stuart Anderson
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Stuart Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Package name: php4-ming
  Version : 4.4.2
  Upstream Author : Stuart Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  URL : http://www.libming.org/
  License : PHP License
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : PHP module for libming

This package provides a module for ming functions in PHP scripts. The
ming library is used to creates Adobe Flash output.


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Re: ITPs for packages lsb-* currently in NEW

2006-09-02 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, AnĂ­bal Monsalve Salazar wrote:


Hello Stuart,

Where are the ITPs of the following packages currently in NEW:

lsb-appchk2
lsb-appchk3
lsb-build-base2
lsb-build-base3
lsb-build-cc2
lsb-build-cc3
lsb-pkgchk3



Bug #35165.

(Yes, I just realized the Closes is missing in the changelog.)


 Stuart

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Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-15 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Jim Crilly wrote:


On 08/15/06 09:49:54AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:

Hello,
This seems to be totally overengineered. Having MTA a provide sendmail
which uses MTA b for remote deliveries is no common usage scenario on
which any effort should be spent in the Debian packaging
infrastructure.

Actually the only sane explanation for wanting to install two MTAs I
ever heard of was I am running X now and want to switch to Y. - I'd like
to test Y in the real system before going live.



I know of at least one firewall product that includes 2 copies of sendmail,
one for accepting messages from the Internet and one for processing and
sending them to the internal servers.


This is actually a common setup when using amavis-ng, spamassasin and
the rest of the spam fighting packages current available in Debian. It
is currently difficult to provide the full capabilities of what all of
these packages can do together unless you have 2 systems upon which to
spread the 2 MTAs. The 'front' and 'back' MTAs in such an antispam
configuration have different requirments, and they can best be met by
using different MTAs for each.

I think it is worth a small amount of effort to allow multiple MTAs to
co-exist.

Stuart

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Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:


Am Dienstag, 8. August 2006 09:28 schrieb Alejandro Rios P.:

* Package name: libming-fonts-openoffice
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : OpenOffice.org dev@openoffice.org
* URL : http://www.openoffice.org/
* License : GPL
  Description : Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

 These are the OpenOffice Fonts converted for use with libming,



I already have package for these fonts prepared as part of the ming
sounrce package, and am awaiting some feedback from some of the packages
that will use them. Feedback from others would be welcome as well.

deb http://www4.netsweng.com/~anderson/ming-unstable/ binary/



[Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:30:29 -0500] [ftpmaster: James Troup]
Removed the following packages from unstable:

--- Reason ---
RoQA; orphaned, dead upstream, grave bugs, unused.
--

Did that change? Did you fix the grave bugs?


I have adopted the libming packages, and there has been a new version in
unstable for a few weeks now.


 Stuart

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Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote:


Are those fonts manually converted? If not, wouldn't it be better to convert
them as needed instead of yet-another-incompatible-font-package?


The long term plan is for libming to be able to read in TTF fonts directly,
but that's not there yet.



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Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:

Are those fonts manually converted? 



YOu didn't answer his question.


Fair enough. The coffee hadn't quite kicked in yet. 8-)


Are they manually converted? Or how are they converted?


I wasn't sure what Alejandro had in mind, so I didn't want
to answer for him. In the past however, that package was made from some
fonts that were manually converted and uploaded to the ming FTP site.
The tool that was used for that conversion a few years ago has suffered
some bitrot.


Can they be converted during-build of some other package (where the fonts
are from, when there's OOo fonts I mean ttf-opensymbol and
ttf-bitstream-vera).


Yes, the packages I have prepared are built as part of the rest of the
ming package. The ming source package Build-depends on the package that
contains the TTF fonts that will be converted into a libming font package.
Upstream ming (and the libming-util package) now includes an updated version
of the tool that is used to convert the fonts.

It is now trivial to create additional libming format font packages, so
some of the feedback I'd like to receive, is which fonts would it be
useful to have already converted and packaged.



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Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:


OK. Now, I fetched your -openoffice pakcage and saw that (as I guessed) it
just does OpenSymbol. Can you please name it -opensymbol (to show that it
is the opensymbol font from ttf-opensymbol) then?


Yes, that would be a better naming scheme. I was a little bit concerned
with the migration path for anyone that had the old package installed,
but I suppose the right set of Conflicts/Replaces/Provides would cover
that?



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Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:


stable doesn't have the package anymore and oldstable is unsupported.
And dist-upgrades skipping one release is not supported.

But yes, I think so. If not, you can add a transitional package, although
I won't like it because of the bogus name...


So this should cover it?

Package: ming-fonts-opensymbol
Conflicts: ming-fonts-openoffice
Replaces: ming-fonts-openoffice
Provides: ming-fonts-openoffice


Interestingly, the ttf-opensymbol package places the font in the
openoffice directory.

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice/opens___.ttf

Does this need to be fixed?

I have my package putting its results in the same directory name (only
the last part, the parent parent directory is different)  as is used for
the ttf files, but I think I can fix that easily enough for
libming-fonts-opensymbol.


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Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote:


Would it be possible to convert them at installation time?


Yes, it would be possible.


There would be two essential options:
1. creation at installation time:
  - possibly only one package for all ming fonts (the tool)


The tool is currently provided as part of the libming-util package.


  - less packages on the mirrors
2. building a ming font package for the wanted TTF font packages


Subject to the input I receive on this, I estimate that only 3-4 font
packages would need to be provided to cover the commonly used fonts. I
don't want an explosion of packages in an effort to convert all fonts
that are available, but I do think it would be good to provide the
common fonts that are used by applications that depend on libming.


I'd go for option one with a small util that:
1. installs the ttf font package e.g. via apt
2. converts to ming fonts
3. optionally uninstalls the ttf font package


I have so far choosen the other option because I felt that when
installing on a production server, I wanted to _not_ do the extra work of
converting the fonts as part of the installation, nor did I want to have
to go perform a manual step on multiple servers. This could also lead to
other applications (which depend on libming) having to build the fonts in
their postinstall script, and there could be multiple applications that
need the same font.

It is still possible to perform option #1 since the tool is provided, but
I would like for the common cases to be effortless for the end user.



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Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Anderson

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:


No, Replaces:/Povides:/Conflicts: libming-...
 ^^^
important, because woody's package is named
like that. for packages not yet in the archive
(your ming-* you can do that but you don't need to;
but you *need* the lib there)


Doh.. of course. That's what I _meant_, but not what I typed. Thanks for
catching that.


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Bug#378906: ITP: xts5 -- X Test Suite

2006-07-19 Thread Stuart Anderson
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stuart Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: xts5
  Version : 5.0.2.cvs20070717
  Upstream Author : X.Org Foundation
* URL : http://www.x.org/
* License : MIT/X
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : X Test Suite

This package will contain the X Test Suite (formerly known as VSW5).

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Bug#378907: ITP: tet -- Test Environment Toolkit from the Open Group

2006-07-19 Thread Stuart Anderson
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stuart Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: tet, tet-dev
  Version : 3.7a
  Upstream Author : The Open Group
* URL : http://tetware.opengroup.org/
* License : Artistic
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Test Environment Toolkit from the Open Group

The TET frame work is needed to build certain tests suites such as the X
Test Suite (xts5), and the LSB test suites (which are derived from the
POSIX test suites).

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Bug#356165: ITP: lsb-utils -- LSB development tools

2006-03-09 Thread Stuart Anderson
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stuart Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: lsb-*
  Version : x.y.z
  Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.linuxbase.org/
* License : GPL
  Description : LSB development tools

This is actually a set of package containing development utilities
for building LSB applications. The package are as follows

lsb-build-base2, lsb-build-cc2, lsb-apchk2
lsb-build-base3, lsb-build-cc3, lsb-apchk3, lsbpkgchk3

These set of packages contains tools for versions 2 and 3 of the LSB.
Use of the  tools are described in http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7067



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