Re: Golang >= 1.12 in Buster?

2019-04-14 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi,

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 09:54:18PM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote:
> FWIW, golang-1.12 was removed from buster, because the RT think
> there're too many golang for buster[1].

there's no logic in that, and especially with the introduction of this
new feature, which the Go community has awaited for so long, I think
it's a perfect way to blast your legs off. It's a bit like removing
Python 3 because there were so many Python2 versions already. Or how
about removing Python2 altogether, then?

> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1024215/golang-112-removed-from-testing/

Thank you for the pointer!

I strongly think that this decision very wrong and should be reversed.
If the RT absolutely insist on cutting down the number of Go versions, I
am not opposed to see eg. golang-1.11 go, however, as I don't see a
compelling case for having it. But others may disagree. In this way, I
fully agree with Eric on this matter.


Cheers,
Toni



Golang >= 1.12 in Buster?

2019-04-13 Thread Toni Mueller


Hello,

I just figured that Buster is, from the current POV, going to ship with
Golang 1.11. While I am new to Go, I figured that we should probably
have a newer version of Golang in Buster, as they are now doing
versioned dependencies, but only starting with 1.12 or 1.13 (not quite
sure about the difference here). This seems to be rapidly adopted by
projects out there, so having only older versions of Golang is becoming
useless quite soon. One project which I am trying to work on, coredns,
already does not compile with anything older than 1.12.

I know we are in freeze already, but I still need to ask, whether there
might be a freeze exception, or how we are going to remedy this
situation?


Cheers,
Toni



Accepted tcpwatch-httpproxy 1.3.1-3 (source all) into unstable

2018-08-04 Thread Toni Mueller
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Description:
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Re: Concerns to software freedom when packaging deep-learning based appications.

2018-07-31 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi,

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 04:20:05PM +0200, Georges Khaznadar wrote:
> 4- if no commercial machine exists at a "fair price", to train the
>neural network in a reasonable amount of time, the publisher of Y
>must lend a machine to fulfill the GPL requirements.

I don't think so. Otherwise, noone would publish anything at
opencores.org or similar, or else someone might sue them for a
lithography machine. And certainly, there would not be any OpenSparc T1
layouts from Oracle.


Just my late 0.02 cents,
Toni




Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-29 Thread Toni Mueller


On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 04:22:23PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> My point is you shouldn't educate with lies and half-truths.

Good point. Then you get to do it the correct way. Deal?


Cheers,
--Toni++



Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-29 Thread Toni Mueller
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:13:52AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:00:38PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
> > link to a page suggesting free hardware over similar non-free hardware
> 
> There is no such thing. There is only non-free hardware without updates
> for its software.

"Whatever". My main point is imho to both make it easier for people to
run Debian on their computers and educate them at the same time. I hope
that my approach would achieve that goal, but after spending a lot of
time with this thread, other approaches like including everything in an
ISO and then installing only the required bits also sound promising.


Cheers,
--Toni++



Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-27 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 02:39:12PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> Every time I need a Debian ISO, it takes me minutes to find it.
> I didn't even know, that there were an ISO with non-free firmware.
> 
> There should be a beautiful ISO download page, e.g.
> https://www.debian.org/download[s]/
> with all architectures and supported releases, similar to
> https://www.ubuntu.com/download
> or
> https://linuxmint.com/download.php

I wasn't really aware of the distinction and just noticed that I so far
got by with the free ISOs. But I also found that most newbies who are
being hooked on Mint or Ubuntu, are very unlikely to change to Debian,
but instead tend to blame any problems on Linux as a whole.

Arguing about freeness is probably not helpful for these people because
they will most likely simply not understand the point, and what makes
free hardware so much better. Therefore, in my opinion, using a more
end user oriented language is advised.

I would therefore like to suggest some change to the first page
(get.debian.org) along these lines. Despite the wording, though, it can
be viewed to massively encourage users to use non-free hardware, because
it makes it much easier accessible:



Debian CDs
==

Standard Images/Free Software Images


If you want to install a VM or have fairly free/simple/old hardware
(better wording required, preferably with a link enumerating compatible
hardware), you are encouraged to use these images: Link to our free
ISOs.


Special Hardware/Non-Free Software Images
-

We do not advocate using non-free hardware, but would still like to
enable you to use Debian.

If your hardware includes any of these components: (link to a page with
hardware requiring non-free firmware), you may need to use these images
(link to the ISOs including non-free software), but we encourage you to
look at (link to Free Software statements/explanations) and maybe look
into suggested hardware choices (link to a page suggesting free
hardware over similar non-free hardware).




Cheers,
--Toni++



Re: Bug#849703: ITP: ansible-doc -- Documentation for Ansible

2017-11-15 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi Harlan,

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 01:07:44PM -0500, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote:
> It's been a while since we made the decision not to pull from upstream's
> git; Toni, I'd be happy to work with you on seeing if it's doable now.

I think I have a suitable package now, being as cheap as possible, but
it's off your git tree, which I took from 

  https://anonscm.debian.org/git/collab-maint/ansible.git
  
I had to change some things, though:

 * retrofit the docsite directory
 * adjust debian/control
 * adjust debian/rules

It's for 2.4.1, and it's lintian clean. My changes build both packages.

How can I best upload this stuff without disrupting yours, and without
creating an entirely new repository?

TIA!


Cheers,
--Toni++



Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2017-01-06 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

I'm confused...

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 09:01:51PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:30:26AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> >Ifconfig has been deprecated; you should probably use "ip a show
> >dev lo" instad of the shorter and more convenient "ifconfig lo"
> ... and often wrong

The BSD ifconfig can do this with ease, and since ages, too. Why is
the Linux ifconfig _so_ different? Forking for the sake of it?


Eg adding an IPv6 address:
# ifconfig em0 inet6 address  alias

and removing it:
# ifconfig em0 inet6 address -alias


Just asking.


Cheers,
--Toni++

PS: http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-current/man8/ifconfig.8



Re: Bug#849703: ITP: ansible-doc -- Documentation for Ansible

2017-01-04 Thread Toni Mueller
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 09:14:59PM -0500, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote:
> Toni Mueller <t...@debian.org> writes:
> > I found them only on PyPI. Did you find them elsewhere?
> 
> We get them from releases.ansible.com.  Are the docs in the tarballs in
> PyPi?

Nope, there are only man pages.


Cheers,
--Toni++



Re: Bug#849703: ITP: ansible-doc -- Documentation for Ansible

2017-01-03 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi!

A happy new year, everyone!

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 01:07:44PM -0500, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote:
> Unfortunately, we don't build ansible off of the git repository, but
> rather from the released tarballs.

I found them only on PyPI. Did you find them elsewhere?

> It's been a while since we made the decision not to pull from upstream's
> git; Toni, I'd be happy to work with you on seeing if it's doable now.

Let's get the -doc package into stretch first if it's not too late
already.


Cheers,
--Toni++



Re: Bug#849703: ITP: ansible-doc -- Documentation for Ansible

2016-12-31 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi Evgeni,

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 10:44:50PM +0100, Evgeni Golov wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:58:02AM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
> > documentation. This package aims to supply the documentation in HTML
> > form offline, so one should not need to go to the aoupstream website to
> > read it.
> 
> Which source is this built from?
> Do you basically want a mirror of https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/ in
> a Debian package?

I am building from a git clone of the ansible repository, and, more
specifically, from the tag v2.2.0.0-1.

> > Yours truly frequently suffers under bad network conditions, which make
> > reading the website infeasible or outright impossible, so I think the
> > package is useful.
> 
> If it is more than ansible-doc , then it certainly is.

My network conditions vary greatly, but too frequently, they are not
good enough to access anything on the Internet. Working on that, but
still, having a local copy of everything is very desirable from my POV.

> I just wonder whether it is sensible to built it from an own source,
> and not from the ansible source itself.

I found a very easy way to build everything from the ansible source, at
least for this tag.


Cheers,
--Toni++



Bug#849703: ITP: ansible-doc -- Documentation for Ansible

2016-12-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Toni Mueller <t...@debian.org>

* Package name: ansible-doc
  Version : 2.2.0.0-1
  Upstream Author : RedHat <i...@ansible.com>
* URL : http://www.ansible.com/
* License : GPL-3
  Programming Lang: HTML, JavaScript
  Description : Documentation for Ansible

Currently, the Ansible package in Debian lacks proper offline
documentation. This package aims to supply the documentation in HTML
form offline, so one should not need to go to the aoupstream website to
read it.

Yours truly frequently suffers under bad network conditions, which make
reading the website infeasible or outright impossible, so I think the
package is useful.

I hope I can collaborate with the maintainer of the ansible package to
maintain this package.
 



update fonts etc. in HTML pages

2016-12-26 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi,

I'm working on packaging for a -doc package and find, that the original
code generated, in this case by Sphinx, contains unwanted references to
fonts hosted outside, eg. at Google, and other unwanted stuff. For the
bulk of the JavaScript, I found Debian packages that allow me to create
the desired "/javascript/..." style link. But for the fonts, I don't
know what to do, except for removing the references. I don't like this
solution because we seem to have some of the fonts in our repository
already. It feels like a waste to not use them.

If you have tips to share, that would be great!



Cheers,
--Toni++



Accepted funkload 1.17.1-2 (source all) into unstable

2016-12-18 Thread Toni Mueller
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Accepted funkload 1.17.1-1 (source all) into unstable

2016-12-17 Thread Toni Mueller
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Accepted tcpwatch-httpproxy 1.3.1-2 (source all) into unstable

2016-08-28 Thread Toni Mueller
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Description:
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Closes: 835701
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Accepted tcpwatch-httpproxy 1.3.1-1 (source all) into unstable

2016-08-21 Thread Toni Mueller
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Re: enforced systemd services (was: Misc Developer News (#37))

2014-11-25 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi Marc,

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:54:39AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:04:06 +0100, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez 
 arturo.borrero.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 November 2014 at 02:22, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
   [13] http://0pointer.net/public/systemd-nluug-2014.pdf
 This seems pretty interesting.
 
 Indeed. Do we really have to pull that from a video or presentation
 slides? Is this part of the official systemd docs anywhere?

yes, this is in the official docs, somewhere. I had the pleasure to
plough through them a few weeks ago.


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Accepted iptables-converter 0.9.5-1 (source all) into unstable

2014-08-17 Thread Toni Mueller
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Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description:
 iptables-converter - convert iptables-commands from a file to iptables-save 
format
 iptables-converter-doc - sphinx documentation for iptables-converter
Closes: 748635 748638
Changes:
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 .
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   * [3efcb8b] short inputfile should be valid except for a variable
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   Thanks to Guido for the bugreport
   Closes: #748638
   * [302e5f9] tests now proof for shell varaibles and functions
   * [2369725] manpages updated and corrected for exit status
   * [202d159] copied and adapted from iptables-converter
   * [5098422] version set to 0.9.5
   * [8379d72] ip6tables_converter.py added
   * [7708973] adapted to additional tests for shell vars, funcs
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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-15 Thread Toni Mueller
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:43:27AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
  That turns smaller adjustments in applications into
  developing entirely different interfaces for each application, while
  GnuTLS itself still lacks a lot of features.
 
 Do you have any reference for this? I have not followed this closely
 but historically GnuTLS seemed to do very well feature wise (e.g.
 early TLS 1.2 support).

I was referring to the paper from utexas, linked to in a different post,
but mistakenly counted the errors listed there (7 out of 16) as missing
features.


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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-15 Thread Toni Mueller

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 01:32:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 In the world in which BSD software is linked with LibreSSL and the license
 exceptions have not been changed to allow OpenSSL-derived software, now
 (due to the way that Debian applies this rule transitively) GPL software
 can't link against BSD-licensed libraries that link with LibreSSL, even
 though previously this wouldn't be a problem due to the OpenSSL exception.
 
 This seems like a very bad thing to me.

Imho, this is a non-issue, due to the simple fact that we are not yet
shipping LibreSSL, and due to the fact that LibreSSL is still very
young. It took time to get the OpenSSL exception from upstreams, and
over time, maybe, there will be LibreSSL exceptions as well. Or the code
will be re-done to a point where the OpenSSL license might be dropped.
So far, LibreSSL is young enough so upstreams simply had no time to
amend their licenses, if they would want to allow LibreSSL, too.

Whatever.

It would be very bad if we would be forced to switch to LibreSSL right
now, but we aren't. No need to panic, really.



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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-14 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi Thomas,

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:52:24AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 On 07/12/2014 08:46 PM, Toni Mueller wrote:
  As libressl is currently under
  heavy development, it is imho not to be expected to have that stable ABI
  you are asking for.
 
 Well, I don't agree with this view. If LibreSSL pretends to be a
 replacement for OpenSSL, then they should care about being ABI
 compatible,

but they are only partially compatible already. The one thing that
appears to stick out is that libressl has *no* support for egd, and on
purpose (ie, it will not come back). And the other is arc4random().

 so we can easily switch from one implementation to the
 other. Just like for MariaDB / MySQL in fact (not sure if these are
 still ABI compatible though). If that's not the case, then it looses a
 lot of its purpose. As Kurt wrote, GNUTLS becomes a better alternative then.

If your application does not use things which are deemed deprecated,
then it should be quite compatible, but by ripping out tons of old
stuff, they of course also break something, at some point. The whole API
becomes smaller simply because of that (I don't think this will be
offset by the added features in other areas, like adding better cipher
suites).

As for GnuTLS, all I read so far is that it requires a *lot* of work to
make a single application which has been developed together with
OpenSSL, compatible with GnuTLS, because apparently almost everything
differs to the point that it is unfeasible or impossible to have a
compatibility layer. That turns smaller adjustments in applications into
developing entirely different interfaces for each application, while
GnuTLS itself still lacks a lot of features. At the face of it, that
sounds like it is at least an order of magnitude more work, but likely
even much more than that. And add to that that GnuTLS apparently works
incorrectly almost half of the time (which translates to a significant
security *downgrade* in my eyes), there is a huge amount of work set for
those who would really try to fix it (ignoring the row between the
upstream author and the FSF aside for the moment).

  OTOH, one guy already switched his entire Linux
  system over, so far with no visible adverse effects.
 
 And then? This gives no clue if he had to rebuild everything that
 build-depended on OpenSSL...

That I don't know, but I have posed this question to the guy who made
that statement. I'll keep you posted.

 On 07/13/2014 01:15 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
  If you start using both for different packages, then you end up with
  shared libraries conflicting over which libssl they want to use, and
  then bad things start happening.
 
 Exactly! I fully agree with you on this.

I do not think that accidentically using one library when one wanted to
use the other will be an issue. FWIW, I've been told that a separate
libressl.so is in the making, and if so, binary incompatibility can be
taken for granted.

 This reminds me issues I had with mod-log-sql linked to MySQL and php
 as well, and when they were built against different versions... BOOM!
 I certainly do *not* want this kind of things to happen in Debian.
 Therefore, I'd very much prefer if we used OpenSSL *or* LibreSSL, but
 not have the choice between the 2, otherwise, that's a recipe for
 disaster.

Ummm... what was BOOM exactly, please? Because within a release,
OpenSSL (letter) versions should all be compatible with each other.

 Please don't upload LibreSSL to Sid *ever*, unless we collectively
 decide that we are switching away from OpenSSL (and for which a
 discussion would have to start).

Well... as I said, I'm first and foremost planning to get it into
experimental, and then we can see what it really is, fix the packaging
etc.pp., and evaluate the package along the way. And while I hold the
OpenBSD developers in very high esteem, I am still a bit wary that the
package might be not as secure as we wish it to be, and therefore guess
that we want to evaluate the package thoroughly for some time before the
discussion about switching over can even start in a reasonable manner.

Having said that, I value all of your input, but feel not halfway as
much trigger happy as some of you seem to think I am.


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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-14 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi Jeroen,

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:22:49PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
 At Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:46:45 +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
  Ok, but for whatever reason, they have an imho not as shiny track
  record, as has OpenBSD. Which is no wonder, given all the revelations we
  have had recently, but hey, sometimes one has to make a decision.
 
 OpenSSL was part of OpenBSD before they created the LibreSSL fork, so
 how isn't OpenSSL part of the OpenBSD track record?

it is in the way that they include it, and it also contributed a
significant amount of all patches that were required over the years, but
the typical way OpenBSD operates - from my perspective - is, they
include something (eg. Sendmail), and once they get fed up with it for
whatever reason, unless they find something acceptable out there (eg.
nginx instead of Apache, or nsd(?)+unbound instead of BIND), they start
to roll their own. A few releases later, the old stuff is being demoted
or removed entirely (eg. for RAIDframe - softraid, the switchover
period where you could choose was more than four years, afair). Such
changes do happen in a disruptive manner, as there is usually nothing
that aids you in converting your setup from the old to the new software.

 It depends on how you look at it. If you see the OpenSSL API as
 something that isn't really well designed then other libraries not
 copying the API is actually a good thing.

Yes and no, but if it is more than ten times the amount of work, it is
likely never getting done, for the simple reason that everyone is
lacking resources.

 You forget one of the big problems with OpenSSL that LibreSSL doesn't
 fix: the license.

Granted. Due to the amount of inherited code, it can't. We'll see how
things evolve as the amount of inherited code will dwindle.

 It actually makes the mess even bigger, given that
 some of the GPL exceptions only talk about the OpenSSL library and
 don't exempt OpenSSL-derived code. So even if LibreSSL is a drop-in
 for OpenSSL we can't replace OpenSSL with LibreSSL for those projects.

Yes. Thanks for pointing this out.

 You also forget to list two other TLS libraries:
 
 * NSS, in my opinion the biggest downside of NSS is that it includes
   NSPR. This both increases the code size a lot and makes the API less
   nice if I remember correctly.

Hmmm... yes. I was under the impression that not very many people were
using it, but looking at my system, NSS + NSPR ~ 3,5MB, while
libssl1.0.0 comes in at ~3MB. Add ~1MB for sqlite3 and zlib1g in the
case of NSS...

 * PolarSSL, which I really like from a technical point of
   view. Featurewise it is pretty complete (the only major feature it
   doesn't implement is DTLS AFAICS), while being one tenth the size of
   OpenSSL / GnuTLS:
   
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_TLS_implementations#Code_size_and_dependencies
   PolarSSL is also used by OpenVPN-NL, the hardened OpenVPN version
   that is used by the Dutch government.
   The downsides are that it looks like it doesn't have a stable API
   and contributing needs copyright assignment because it is
   dual-licensed.

It still gets 5 out of 16 answers wrong, as per the comparison sheet
included here:

https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/shmat_oak14.pdf



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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL (addendum)

2014-07-14 Thread Toni Mueller
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:08:01PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:22:49PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
  OpenSSL was part of OpenBSD before they created the LibreSSL fork, so
  how isn't OpenSSL part of the OpenBSD track record?
 
 it is in the way that they include it, and it also contributed a
 significant amount of all patches that were required over the years, but
 the typical way OpenBSD operates - from my perspective - is, they
 include something (eg. Sendmail), and once they get fed up with it for
 whatever reason, unless they find something acceptable out there (eg.
 nginx instead of Apache, or nsd(?)+unbound instead of BIND), they start
 to roll their own. A few releases later, the old stuff is being demoted
 or removed entirely (eg. for RAIDframe - softraid, the switchover
 period where you could choose was more than four years, afair). Such
 changes do happen in a disruptive manner, as there is usually nothing
 that aids you in converting your setup from the old to the new software.

After a period of settling in, the alternatives are usually much less
troublesome than their respective predecessors, and typically produce
less security problems.


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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-12 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi Kurt,

[ I have trimmed the Cc list - we are all on devel@, anyway, right? ]

On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 02:15:13PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 01:53:45PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
  On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 01:25:47PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
   What are you doing with the binaries, include files, man pages,
   ...?  Will they conflict with the ones from openssl?
  
  my intention is to package this stuff so one can have both openssl and
  libressl installed in parallel. libressl currently has libraries with
  these sonames:
  
  libssl.so.26
  libcrypto.so.29
 
 I don't really like it, since it could potentionally clash with
 the ones provided by openssl.  But it seems unlikely that openssl
 will ever use that as soname.
 
 I had the feeling openbsd didn't care much about ABI stability,
 and that being at 26 and 29 already doesn't give me a good feeling
 either.  I hope you don't have to go and change the binary package
 names each time you upload a new version.

Actually, these version numbers typically correspond with the version
numbers in the rest of their system. As libressl is currently under
heavy development, it is imho not to be expected to have that stable ABI
you are asking for. OTOH, one guy already switched his entire Linux
system over, so far with no visible adverse effects.

 I was never very happy with it either.  But it has very recently
 changed, and I think it's going in the right direction.  I'm now
 also in the openssl development team.

Good. That does help to improve my trust with it.

 I'm not really sure what you mean by this.  I'm pretty sure the
 openssl development team has a pretty good understanding of
 security and I don't see anybody adding a backdoor in it.

Ok, but for whatever reason, they have an imho not as shiny track
record, as has OpenBSD. Which is no wonder, given all the revelations we
have had recently, but hey, sometimes one has to make a decision.

  FWIW, I have well over a decade of very good experience with OpenBSD
 
 Not everybody has the same experience with them.

Yes. Not everybody has an intention to use LibreSSL, either, but
regarding crypto, they usually know their stuff well above average. See
eg. their OpenSSH, which has seen very widespread adoption.

 I think GnuTLS is actually a better alternative and wish there
 were more people developing and using it.

But developing GnuTLS is a full-time job, and then there's the control
problem with the FSF - you are certainly aware about the problems the
original upstream ran into when he wanted to break loose from the FSF
(for a reason I have forgotten). LibreSSL is a much lower-hanging fruit,
as it is supposed to be mostly, or entirely, plug-compatible with
OpenSSL. To me, the playing field largely looks like this atm:

 * GnuTLS, with an API incompatible with OpenSSL, thus requiring huge
   amounts of work to make significant use of it.
 * MatrixSSL, which once had a dubious license, and which still did not
   come out too well in the SSL lib comparison I recently saw (see the
   list archive),
 * the now newly staffed OpenSSL project, with their mixed track
   record (eg. FIPS), and now
 * LibreSSL, which sounds much like an OpenSSL on a diet, and with some
   exercise, and promising thrust behind it, but mostly simply a
   drop-in.

And I guess the BoringSSL people will chime in sooner or later, too...


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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-12 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 07:43:44AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Jul 12, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote:
  * Package name: libressl
 I am highly doubtful at best.

in which respect, and why?

 What are your plans exactly?

My plan is to first build the package(s) and upload to experimental, so
people can start to play with it.

 Would it have the same SONAME of openssl and conflict+provide it?

I would like to make it co-installable with OpenSSL, but in general,
this should be a drop-in replacement until APIs really diverge in a
visible way. Yes, it would provide 'openssl', but I intend to place them
into a different directory, so you might have to use LD_PATH to get
them. Whether it has to conflict with openssl, I'll figure out that
later, if otherwise the case would arise that a binary might get libssl
from one package, and libcrypto from the other.

So far, it looks like a recompile could be necessary. But since the
upstream package has seen the light of day only yesterday (see
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.announce/186 for the
announcement), things are not yet stable. For the technical side of the
discussion, you can read http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.tech).

 Would it be a totally different library which packages would 
 build-depend on?

Packages currently build-depending on openssl should be able to
build-depend on openssl-dev | libressl-dev. For recent versions of
OpenSSH, it already works, and another user writes: Just switched my
slackware 14.1 box over to libressl instead of openssl and it's working
great so far, no problems at all. So I guess usability is already good.
But imho, it does have to stand the test of time, and receive
independent review, and much more exposure. Which is one reason why I
think it is a very good idea to expose it to the Debian and related
communities.


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Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-11 Thread Toni Mueller
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org

* Package name: libressl
  Version : 2.0.0
  Upstream Author : The OpenBSD project, the OpenSSL project et al.
* URL : http://www.libressl.org/
* License : BSD, OpenSSL, SSLeay, Public Domain.
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : SSL library, forked from OpenSSL


LibreSSL strives to maintain API compatibility with OpenSSL, but
do away with all the cruft.

After a long series of OpenSSL problems, recently highlighted by
the infamous Heartbleed bug, a group inside OpenBSD decided to
fork OpenSSL and adapt the code to modern coding standards.
Along the way, a lot of compatibility with older architectures
and toolchains was discarded.


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Re: default messaging/VoIP client for Debian 8/Jessie

2014-04-12 Thread Toni Mueller


On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 04:07:24PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 BTW, it'd be nice to have a backport of Jitsi. Not sure how much work
 that would be though (there must be lots of java dependencies...).

I recently installed 2.5.5190-1 on Wheezy without much trouble, but
imho, the operational issues are much bigger than the possible
dependencies (eg. no roster on amd64).

Not sure how I to usefully contribute, though... their Wiki basically
says (my perception only) spend your days with us, or go away.


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Accepted iptables-converter 0.9.3-1 (source all)

2014-02-21 Thread Toni Mueller
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Maintainer: Johannes Hubertz johan...@hubertz.de
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 iptables-converter - convert set of iptables-commands to iptables-save format
 iptables-converter-doc - sphinx documentation for iptables-converter
Closes: 712263
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 .
   * Bump version number to force source upload.
   * Closes: #712263
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Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Toni Mueller



On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:44:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
 ...
 forcing the rest of the world to conform to our worldview.  One
 desktop environment, and an awful one at that, dictating the
 init system we use is a complete farce.  Debian is a lot bigger
 than GNOME, and if we have to, I'd vote for junking it entirely.

As much as I liked GNOME over competing desktops in the past, this time
I have to fully agree with this statement of yours.


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Re: Linux Future

2013-02-24 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 05:12:59AM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:06:16PM +0100, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
  This blogpost is months old but it makes some interesting reflections:
  http://www.pappp.net/?p=969
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/115547683951727699051/posts/74r518xVUNH

LOL!

Actually, I find this reply to the PAPPP post largely invalid because LP
does not address the fact that these pipes and sockets are no longer the
official interface for random third-party tools to talk to, but only
used as internal communication mechanisms, using likely ever-changing
and much less than standard D-Bus documented protocols.

Talking to those sockets/pipes is much akin programming with
Undocumented Windows in your hand, then get the blame if something
breaks because you didn't use the one officially blessed API. IOW, it's
inherently unreliable, and a doomed approach.

Oh, and I think it *does* matter whether something is Unix or not. There
are even bodies to evolve the Unix spec, if needs be (arguably yes in
some areas, but not in all). If you don't agree, consider the viability
of ReactOS, which is (afaik) free software, too, or the way the
traditional Unices evolved.


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Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

2012-11-24 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 02:09:51AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 On 11/14/2012 11:12 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
  The full thread is here:
  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2262

 This thread was originally about udev, yet everyone is starting again the
 systemd / upstart / sysv-rc war. I think we can agree that we don't about

I, for one, wholeheartedly welcome the fork, as I hope that this will
help getting back some of the modularity in Linux that was there, once
upon a time, and which contributed to making Linux a robust platform -
sometime in the past.


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Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

2012-11-24 Thread Toni Mueller


On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 05:15:25PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
 If both Ubuntu and Gentoo would just go with the rest of the community
 and accept systemd, we wouldn't have to bother whether udev runs
 without systemd or not.

I would highly prefer a system where I can take small bites if I want
to, and where components are as portable as possible, and as it stands,
I am very uncomfortable with systemd, too. It's certainly
interesting, but having a hard dependency on it is imho a no-no.

Please take a step back, look at the bigger picture, and tell me
whether you think that we, as Debianites, or as Free Software
Advocates, are still heading in the right direction:

1. What does it mean if more and more software is required to run a
   Linux system, in the various scenarios, and losing the ability to
   swap components w/o major kernel hackery? So far, being highly
   modular was a way to contain the complexity, and finish off bugs.
   It's not only more eyeballs to catch them, it's also the complexity
   that makes it increasingly hard for people to understand what's going
   on in the first place, so the problem of having the required
   knowledge, that you highlighted in your message, will only get worse
   and worse with tighter integration.

2. What does it mean if more and more software only runs on Linux?

3. What does it mean that - my claim/experience - more and more Linux
   software is simply broken (see Gnome for a popular example, but I
   have more)?

 I don't see anyway why something as low-level
 as udev should be highly portable in the first place.

Maybe, but I do see why systemd must not be a hard dependency of the
Linux kernel, and if systemd is basically the user-space part of udev,
and both can't live without each other, then something is fundamentally
wrong in the design. IMHO.



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Accepted scim-tables 0.5.12-1 (source i386 all)

2012-10-18 Thread Toni Mueller
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Maintainer: Tz-Huan Huang tzh...@gmail.com
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
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platform
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Closes: 499558 689335
Changes: 
 scim-tables (0.5.12-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * new upstream release. Closes: #689335, Closes: #499558.
   * debian/control
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Accepted scim-tables 0.5.11-1 (source i386 all)

2012-07-17 Thread Toni Mueller
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Source: scim-tables
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scim-tables-additional
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 0.5.11-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Tz-Huan Huang tzh...@gmail.com
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 scim-modules-table - generic tables IM engine module for SCIM platform
 scim-tables-additional - miscellaneous input method data tables for SCIM 
platform
 scim-tables-ja - Japanese input method data tables for SCIM platform
 scim-tables-ko - Korean input method data tables for SCIM platform
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 .
   * new upstream release.
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scim: problems with libclutter-imcontext*

2012-07-08 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

while working on scim, we found that there's a problem that appears to stem from
libclutter-imcontetext-0.1-dev apparently not being multi-arch'ed. I quote from
an email by Tz-Huan:


-- cut
The scim try to figure out the module directory of clutter-imcontext
in these ways:

* search clutter-libdir via `$PKG_CONFIG --variable=libdir
clutter-imcontext-0.1`,
   if it successes, set the module directory to
$clutter-libdir/clutter-imcontext/immodules
* otherwise, set the module directory to $libdir/clutter-imcontext/immodules
  (libdir is passed when running configure script, so it should be
/usr/lib/${MULTI_ARCH_PATH}
   in debian).

In testing, libclutter-imcontext-0.1-dev doesn't multi-archified itself
(http://packages.debian.org/testing/i386/libclutter-imcontext-0.1-dev/filelist),
so scim get /usr/lib from the first step (pkg-config way) and set
the module directory to
/usr/lib/clutter-imcontext/immodules.

However, libclutter-imcontext-0.1-dev does multi-archified in sid
(http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libclutter-imcontext-0.1-dev/filelist)
so scim get /usr/lib/${MULTI_ARCH_PATH} from pkg-config and set the module
directory to /usr/lib/${MULTI_ARCH_PATH}/clutter-imcontext/immodules.
-- cut

What would be the preferred way to solve this problem, please?

TIA!


Kind regards,
--Toni++


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Re: Improving our response to duplicate packages in Debian

2012-07-01 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 08:41:07AM +0200, Michael Hanke wrote:
 I think this is approaching the problem from the wrong end. Instead of
 preserving the status quo and asking oracles to predict the future we
 should have better means of _removing_ software that has proven to be
 inferior of an equivalent alternative in Debian. The advantage is that
 we have objective criteria to be able to make an informed decision --
 not a guess based on heuristics and opinion. The disadvantage is that it
 imposes work on other volunteers -- but see below...

well, what do you have in mind?

If you happen to think along the lines of bug count per package, that's
easily challenged (imho), and defining equivalent is also far from
providing an objective criterion.

On top of that, I happen to appreciate the choice I have in Debian,
instead of the only one true way to do things. Just think of the
equivalence between KDE and Gnome, or vim and emacs, for a start.
Imho, going that road is the fastest way to wind down our user base to
less than a third of the current size.

I also think that Craig and Russel are right about the incentives and
risks for newcomers not being able to scratch their itch, and failing
in a core project.


May I ask what are the driving reasons behind the advocated change with
respect to our tradision are?



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Accepted funkload 1.16.1-3 (source all)

2012-06-30 Thread Toni Mueller
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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 23:24:09 +0200
Source: funkload
Binary: funkload funkload-doc
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.16.1-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 funkload   - web testing tool
 funkload-doc - web testing tool (documentation package)
Closes: 659232
Changes: 
 funkload (1.16.1-3) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   * added the dependency (Closes: #659232)
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scim and assorted packages

2012-06-27 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

today I received an email from the FTP masters that a pacakge that is
highly relevant to me, has been pulled from Debian. I understand that
most folks are now looking at that ibus stuff (which is imho not ready
for prime time, yet), but would like to understand better how a package
with only 1 normal and 2 minor bugs can be pulled, and... how I can stay
at the front of this.

/me tries to carve out some time to aid in scim packaging, which still
has a *much*, *much* wider range of supported languages and scripts than
ibus (saying ibus is a replacement for scim is an euphemism, at best).


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Accepted funkload 1.16.1-2 (source all)

2012-06-25 Thread Toni Mueller
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Version: 1.16.1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 funkload   - web testing tool
 funkload-doc - web testing tool (documentation package)
Closes: 678043
Changes: 
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 .
   * symlink the JS libraries (Closes: #678043)
 Note that this only works if the user actually installed the
 Recommends: .
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Accepted roundup 1.4.20-1 (source all)

2012-06-18 Thread Toni Mueller
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Version: 1.4.20-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Kai Storbeck k...@xs4all.nl
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Changes: 
 roundup (1.4.20-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * New Maintainer: Kai Storbeck k...@xs4all.nl
   * Incorporated previous NMU by Gregor Herrmann and Daniel T Chen
   * patch history-user-escape: dropped
 - applied upstream (fixed in 1.4.20, issue2550684)
   * patch fix-email-representation: dropped
 - applied upstream (fixed in 1.4.19, issue2550691)
 (1.4.18-1 stated to fix issue2550540, but meant issue2550691)
   * patch debian-changes-1.4.18-1: dropped
 - correct a packaging mistake
   * patch 12_manpage_hyphen_minus.patch: created
 - correct a lintian warning about upstream manpages
   * patch 00_licensefiles: created
 - to correct a lintian warning about upstream license files
   * fix debian native manpages for the same lintian warnings
   * Upped standards-version to 2.9.3
   * CDBS dropped in favour of debhelper and dh_python2
   * Supply a symlink to libjs-jquery's jquery.js
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Re: Re: Is Debian affected by the recent MySQL sql/password.c flow?

2012-06-12 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:53:50PM +0200, Peter Pöschl wrote:
 Seems you overlooked this:
 
  Debian Unstable 64-bit 5.5.23-2

I just tried on my 32bit machine, and didn't get in in some 50.000
attempts. Also, the squeeze versions are listed under unaffected,
which is what reduces the stress level.


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Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-09 Thread Toni Mueller

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 02:26:23PM +0200, Florian Reitmeir wrote:
 Norbert Preining wrote:
 is this only me or do I have the feeling that we are going down
 the trench with Gnome?
  ...
 Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever?
 i use gnome too, and for me its working very stable, and gnome3 is
 way better than gnome2.

I've recently tried to use Gnome, too, but while I got the (probably)
standard menus, I could not get it to work. Eg. I had 10-30 seconds for every
reaction to anything, like moving the mouse. Opening a menu, if it would
open, took much longer, but clicking on anything didn't work at all (ie,
the menu folded again, but there was no other reaction that I could see.

At last, I managed to kill the session and use something else again.
Anything else that I tried so far, including KDE, looked rock-solid and
lightning fast in comparison.


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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-04 Thread Toni Mueller

On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 06:34:57AM +0300, Serge wrote:
 2012/6/3 Toni Mueller wrote:
  First, there can be rather large session directory, you probably don't
  want ~365595 files to be always eating your RAM.
  Well, I much rather want that, or store the session data in memcache,
  which is almost the same thing, only with a different label.
 
 Memcache? (0_o) Imho, that's even worse than store it on tmpfs, since
 memcache can just push your data off the cache and you'll get it lost even
 without reboot. I can think of session data in memcache only as some hack
 for load-balanced servers,

Not to be debated - yes, using memcached does create a headache or two,
but also solves problems that are otherwise hard. Yes, reboots are rare
enough (every few weeks at most) to ignore their adverse side effect on
user's sessions - at least in my use cases.

 but it requires careful memory configuration, otherwise users may find
 themselves logged off in the middle of a chat.

No objections here.

  Mind you, all these things are done to *prevent* the application from
  going to disk, and force it to stay in RAM. And that's exactly what
  I want.
 
 You already have a filesystem cache for that. Session data stays in RAM
 if it is used. But it does not get lost when inactive for a few hours.

Well, it doesn't. I have copious memory in a box that is highly
underused ( 50%), but still find that interesting files, or file system
data, are deleted from that cache. Which leads to very high access times
in case I need this data.

 Plain users I've seen expect their session to stay alive for days. I.e.
 they have just checked the forum and then turned off PC. When tomorrow
 they turn it on they expect to be still logged in.

Hmmm. First, I'd say that this assumption on their behalf is wrong.
Secondly, over here, people tend to be forcefully disconnected at least
every 24 hours, forcing a new client IP, anyway. There is no sane way to
keep users logged in under these circumstances.

 They expect this to be true for everything (forums, blogs, web-email,
 etc). It's a disaster for them to be logged off, it takes hours to
 find a piece of paper where they wrote the password. They become angry
 if 10 minutes ago they were logged in and now they aren't, they don't
 care that I had to reboot the server.

Looks like you have a vastly different user population, who also use a
vastly different software. My clients' software packages just
automatically re-connect, and re-login if possible, in the background.
Even Outlook can do it. Not to mention flakey DSL or mobile connections
that break your connection more frequently than that.

 It could be that your users are different.

Looks like it, yes.

 Hardeding[1] stuff, you could get your soft faster just by specifying
 your exact arch (-march=native). Also for example -fomit-frame-pointer
 option for x86 can make short functions twice shorter and faster...

Uh. Mentioning hardening and suggesting omit-frame-pointer in one
sentence makes me shiver. No, I don't optimize for performance at that
level, but rather go for portability and safety, if possible. Also, a
quick Google search turns up this - maybe out of date - article:

 http://timetobleed.com/gcc-optimization-flag-makes-your-64bit-binary-fatter-and-slower/

Also, from
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.6.2/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Type-punning,
it's unclear to me whether omit-frame-pointer will interfere with stack
protection schemes, or which one takes precedence.

I usually resort to trust in my fellow DDs to do the right things
in this area...


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Accepted funkload 1.16.1-1 (source all)

2012-06-04 Thread Toni Mueller
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Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
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Re: Starting services automatically after install

2012-06-03 Thread Toni Mueller


On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 08:21:34AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
 * Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com [120602 16:26]:
  However, I am calling into question the validity of starting a service by
  default post-install. I think it introduces security concerns, possible
  headaces on the local LAN, and just unnessary work for the administrator.
  Other than if you don't want a service, don't install the package
  agrument, I don't understand why services _should_ be started by default
  post-install.
 
 Try to see it from the other side: I don't understand why you would a
 like a service not started by default.

I would like to install the software, but have my own startup procedure
in many cases. Also, it's much easier to just install a package in order
to start reading the man pages, than manually grabbing the package file,
manually unpacking it somehwere as a user, and then manually touring the
included documentation.

So yes, I will most likely run the software at some point, but
frequently prefer to conduct some in-depth studies first - sometimes,
a Debian package deviates considerably from upstream's or other
distributions' conventions.

 The daemon is there to be run, so running it is the most sensible
 approach in almost all cases[1].

Since we obviously can't agree on *how* the service is to be run, one
could just ask the user, eg., in the case of a printing service:

  I just installed the file sharing service. Do you want to start
  sharing immediately (will allow other people to access 
  files/media/printers)?

But for a more real-world example, consider slapd, which also starts
immediately, but is imho quite unlikely to be configured appropriately
by Joe Average User who doesn't understand that he needs to start Samba
before being able to share his files, and which is impossible to
configure appropriately by answering debconf questions in the first
place?

 If a service comes with a default config that can be a real security
 concern, then that alone needs fixing.

Many services come, eg. Apache comes with it, too (and eg. grabs all
sockets it can, one of my pet peeves).

 As administrator I also prefer that I just have to copy a config and
 install the package. Anything not run by default (or at last by
 default once its configuration is complete) means I have to
 tweak another config file, which is uncessary annoying work.

You have to say something like '/etc/init.d/service restart', anyway,
after you put your own config into place. What's so much different from
saying '/etc/init.d/service start' instead, in such a case?

Asking the unwitting user and providing a default answer of 'yes' should
solve the problem, imho - the slightly more experienced user can then
at least opt for 'no'.


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Re: Starting services automatically after install

2012-06-03 Thread Toni Mueller


On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:21:02AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
 Enabling services on external interfaces by default is indeed a bug, IMO,
 especially things like SSH, DHCP, SMTP or Bind (which has a long history of
 security problems).

sidetracking

SSH is imho the one exeption to the rule, provided it has

PermitRootLogin set to either no or without-password, instead of
yes.


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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-03 Thread Toni Mueller


On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 05:11:16PM +0300, Serge wrote:
 2012/6/2 Toni Mueller wrote:
  Eg. web application's session data very frequently goes there, and/or
  the sysadmin wants it to go onto a tmpfs.
 
 First, there can be rather large session directory, you probably don't
 want ~365595 files to be always eating your RAM.

Well, I much rather want that, or store the session data in memcache,
which is almost the same thing, only with a different label. Mind you,
all these things are done to *prevent* the application from going to
disk, and force it to stay in RAM. And that's exactly what I want.

 Second, session data MUST NOT be lost on reboot by default.

Why not? I could not care less for the loss of session data every once
in a while. People will log in again if their CMS backends really logged
them out because of that, if anything, but session data is created for
about every visitor, or spider, that hits the site(s), and will be
forcefully cleaned up by cron-jobs, anyway. Not my code, so blame
someone else.

 So even without /tmp, sysadmin should not put session data on tmpfs.

I am unconvinced. You can store your session data wherever you like, but
I prefer RAM.

 There're different admins, however...

Yes, looks like it.

 No need to. You only need to add -pipe to your *FLAGS. You don't build
 software with default autotools flags (-g -O2) anyway, I guess.

Well, usually I do, except that I usually only compile C  friends, not
write it.


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Re: Starting services automatically after install

2012-06-03 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi Bernhard,

On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:51:33PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
 * Toni Mueller t...@debian.org [120603 11:41]:
  Since we obviously can't agree on *how* the service is to be run, one
  could just ask the user, eg., in the case of a printing service:
 The print servers I looked at did not allow remote access by default
 since somewhen in the 90ties.

I was only cobbling together an example for the mechanism for asking the
user I had in mind.  Office stuff is not my usual realm of work, and
printing services are office stuff.

 What has slapd to do with samba and why don't you want it run?

Since you were talking about samba, and since LDAP is the standard
network-wide address book mechanism usually in place, I consider slapd a
standard office ingredient like samba (I've used it for different
purposes for several years, but decided to part with it).

As stated, the reason why a stock slapd installation is not that useful,
is that it is extremely hard to do some schema chances, should you have
the need for them, after the database has been installed, and that ACLs
and such are outside of the realm of the package installation. So if you
need one of a non-standard schema, a custom ACL, or something else, like
replication, you are (afair) out of luck with just the debconf-powered
postinst, and need to hand-tune the configuration. Running with the
default database is at least a nuisance in this situation.

 actually I'd be quite confused if slapd had not been already running
 after installing...

Huh???

 Sorry, you have to explain this. Do you claim apache has a security
 concern in its default config?

No, but for me, it has a usability problem in the default config. But
then, I'm doing away with it as best as I can, anyway.

 That I do not have to do it? Either I have copied the config first or
 for a full install that will get a reboot anyway when deployed.

The common case is probably more like I want service X, now I install
the package and see how I can configure it to suit my needs. In the
meantime, one has to prevent the service from doing anything unwanted.

If you have a config before installing the software, we are talking
about a completely different use case that would likely include a lab
setup as well. I don't ask that Debian be optimized for that case.

  Asking the unwitting user and providing a default answer of 'yes' should
  solve the problem, imho - the slightly more experienced user can then
  at least opt for 'no'.
 
 That's called policy.d. (though I feel like repeating others here).

Thanks for pointing it out. I'll take a look.


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Re: Starting services automatically after install

2012-06-02 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi Phil,

On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 07:49:03PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 The Debian approach has always been to not install anything that you
 don't intend to use.

I have brought up this topic in the past, too. Summary: I often do want
the Debian-packaged software on my systems, but use it entirely
differently from what the package maintainer had in mind when he created
the package. Eg. restring services to certain IPs, configure ACLs,
change locations, running not under init but runit instead, whatever.

 It is also to ensure that if you do choose to
 install something, it should be doing something useful by the end of the
 install (if possible, security considerations allowing).

I can actually do that. Please note that this problem only ever affects
services, and the person who is going to run a service will have to do
one additional action if the service is not being started right away
(start it if he is satisfied with the default configuration), whereas
everyone with different requirements, and it's very easy to run into
such a situation, will have to scramble to avoid doing that. Makes
unattended operations more difficult, imho.

 the user for configuration questions -- RedHat just want the software to
 install, whereas Debian wants it to be useful, so may need to ask
 questions.

The package maintainer can do only so much to make a package useful
right away, and certainly not cover many interesting cases from the
real world, due to lack of time, or also imagination, or expertise.

 Both approaches are valid, and are mostly a matter of taste.  If you
 are using a distribution that uses one assumption, it's not useful to
 start introducing packages that work on the opposite assumption.

I was never under the assumption that it was Debian's policy that made
the system this way, but only the superiour packaging system that
enables this kind of configuration to be done at package-install-time.
And what if you had set the debconf value for the user interface to
noninteractive? Start the service, anyway?

It's just safer to not start the service immediately after installation.

Eg. when I recently installed some nova* packages on one system, they
destroyed that system because of missing/wrong configuration and the
unability to cope with the situation they found, but nevertheless
cheerfully started immediately, anyway, with no way for me to anticipate
and/or prevent that situation... major bummer (I'm just recovering from
it)!

 If you don't like the assumptions, you are much better off switching to
 a distribution that you prefer, rather than trying to persuade the
 overwhelming majority of the people that like the current assumptions,
 and use Debian because of those assumptions, that they should change
 their minds because they are supposedly wrong for liking it that way.

These are *quite* strong words, imho.

Whoever wasn't aware of these assumtions, or doesn't have a dedicated
opinion, would probably object to being pocketed like this. I also think
that there are more, other reasons for choosing Debian, not only this
habit.


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Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-02 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Thomas,

On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:33:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
  All the complaints about /tmp as tmpfs come down to one simple issue:
  The size of the tmpfs isn't chosen well. It would be more constructive
  to find a better heuristic for the size there.
 
 No. The complain is that it will never be big enough for some cases. If
 you tell me that it should be twice as big as now, then I'll tell you:
 what if we have to handle files twice as big as what you thought to
 begin with?

that problem applies to disks as well, and especially to small /
partitions, if you don't have /tmp somewhere else. If we are talking by
making /tmp its own file system, that's ok, but if we are talking about
manually relocating it to (say) /var/tmp, then we've made exactly as
much progress as we would have made by making it tmpfs by default: We
then require the user to manually intervene and change the default.

 don't force it to all users as a default which might break and that some
 users wont understand. This is just too risky to have some users saying
 linux is crap, libreoffice can't open big PPT files, it gets horribly
 slow, then crashes the whole system so much that I have to reboot.
 Probably that's wrong, but it's still going to be the comments of our
 users.

You certainly can't cover all edge cases, and especially non-technical
users have just too many ways to break any system, as well as usually
being too rash to investigate. My suggested fix for this problem is to
install a ~/tmp upon account creation, and set the TEMP environment
variable in, say, /etc/environments. That *should* fix up all cases
except for rogue applications that don't honour $TEMP. We can then
proceed to fix these over time, while not demanding too many changes to
the general setup. And fwiw, the user's home is supposed to be big
enough for all such cases where the user is non-technical, but still
his own systems administrator - the case you are highlighting.


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Re: Idea: mount /tmp to tmpfs depending on free space and RAM

2012-06-02 Thread Toni Mueller
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 07:00:52PM +0300, Serge wrote:
 Well, nobody named the benefits yet. Just the problems. There were a

Well, I named one on 28th of May. Did you read it?


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Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-05-29 Thread Toni Mueller

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:26:52AM -0400, Weldon Goree wrote:
 at some point). Much better developers than me seem to have formed
 this opinion too (cf browsers' behavior while it waits for you to tell
 it what to do with an unknown content-type: it's a disk-based pipe to
 whatever program you pick to open it, except now it's a memory-based
 pipe, and I think /tmp on tmpfs is breaking those developers'
 expectations).

As for Iceweasel, there is a bug in Mozilla's database that addresses
exactly this problem. In the overwhelming number of cases of people
downloading large files via their web browser, these files are going to
end up somewhere in their homes, anyway, so the initial downloaded
fragments should be stored there. Although I haven't paid attention to
that bug as of late, I do remember seeing some activity going on there,
and I think the Mozilla developers have been finally convinced to adopt
a different strategy.

 I'd be more comfortable with tmpfs if it could be quota'd with
 standard quota tools.

If this part goes to your home, it's automatically quota'ed.

  Having /var/run on a tmpfs may be a good idea, though.
 Gah! I want *somewhere* I can park stuff on disk. Why are people so
 against that?

Nobody is against that, only that you insist on using /tmp for it, which
is imho not a good assumption to make.

 we going to do? Right now on my Squeeze laptop I have /lib/init/rw,
 /dev/shm, and /tmp. Do we really need more things that look like
 on-disk directories but aren't? (Then again I'm still grumpy about
 sysfs.) Though actually /var/run makes more sense than /tmp, since
 it's pretty much just for pids and sockets.

Without doing much (that I can remember) to my box, I see this on
Testing:

$ mount|grep tmpfs
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=4018332k,nr_inodes=205757,mode=755)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=804880k,mode=755)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,size=307200k)
tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=1609760k)
$ 

Enjoy!

 dropping arbitrarily large files into it (I'm looking at you,
 Iceweasel...) and as long as there's *some* section of actual disk
 somewhere that's 1777. 

As I said, there was /usr/tmp, but I think it was shot down. But I
suggest /srv/tmp or something like that.



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Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-05-28 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 02:22:24AM +0300, Serge wrote:
 What's a temporary file? Really, why would applications temporarily store
 its data in a file? They do that to *free some memory*. Placing those files
 back to memory renders the whole process of writing the file useless.
 If the files are small and can stay in memory why would application save it
 to file?

how, or why, would an application know that I have enough memory to keep
it all there, while you don't? The fail-safe way to code an application
without copious special-casing is to use a file and then let the systems
administrator decide what to do with it. If the application insists on
keeping everything in memory, the systems administrator can, at best,
add more swap, but if it uses a file, he can decide either way.

 Since it's only reasonable to store large data sets in temporary files,
 standard sets no size limits for these files. So if application's author
 had actually read FHS he should expect these directories to handle
 large files.

It's not, see below. Also, most of the time, /tmp goes into / (on
smaller systems), and is thus typically *very* much limited in space.
Granted, the user can relocate /tmp to another place later, once he
became aware of the limit...

Running out of space in /tmp should be a one-time event for any system
that one installs, since thereafter, /tmp will have enough space
configured for the desired purposes. No need to make it non-tmpfs.

 Who uses /tmp
 =
 Let's check the real world and see what applications actually use /tmp.

 And the most important thing: file managers, browsers, image editors,
 cd burners — these are not some rare scientific stuff, but a common
 programs, that most people use every day. Putting them on a small tmpfs
 will break them. Putting them on large tmpfs may slow down or freeze
 the system due to heavy swapping.

I wanted to make the argument that php uses /tmp as the session save
path (it used to be there), but discovered, that someone has
re-configured that to now be in /var/lib/php5, so I'd say put that on a
tmpfs as well. Lots of small files with frequent accesses... whoever
wants those on a real disk?!?

 is to extend partitioner with a new option Configure tmpfs partitions.
 That option should allow to mount anything as tmpfs (not just /tmp, but
 also /var/run, /media, /opt or whatever the user might want). It would be
 nice to have the `size` option there as well.

Having /var/run on a tmpfs may be a good idea, though.

 Q: I extremely care about my / fs and want to use it as rarely as possible.
 A: There're a lot of options:
* symlink or mount-bind /tmp to i.e. /home/tmp
* have /tmp on a separate partition (common and probably best solution)
* you hate partitions? make /home/tmp_ext3fs.img and loop-mount it.
That would solve your problem without making your system unstable because
of high memory usage, or break programs because of no free space in /tmp.

It used to be /usr/tmp in olden days, just to have that out of / and
give it more space at the same time, too. One might also consider to
then merge /tmp with /var/tmp, eg. by way of symlinking them, as the one
who is strapped on memory, might as well be strapped on Internet
bandwidth to download that unfinished ISO that blew up his /tmp on
tmpfs, then re-getting the rest of it after rebooting...

 Q: /tmp on tmpfs increases apps performance.
 A: What apps? Real apps don't write files during performance-critical
operations. Even if they do, they write large files. And large files are

Dead wrong.

Eg. web application's session data very frequently goes there, and/or
the sysadmin wants it to go onto a tmpfs.

 Q: gcc writes small files in /tmp
 A: usually it does not, especially when used with -pipe option

Changing all (generated?) Makefiles floating around out there, and
getting the changes committed upstream to actually benefit from that is
easier than using a tmpfs, of course.

 That's it. Thanks for reading.
 
 PS: should I had filled this as a bugreport?

I request that the bug be tagged wontfix.


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Re: Packaging on GitHub ?

2012-05-28 Thread Toni Mueller
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 05:58:55PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 Charles Plessy dixit:
 upstream source moved to GitHub, and we would like to try to maintain the
 Debian package there as well.
 
 This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html

MUCH seconded. Thanks for sharing the link!


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Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Toni Mueller

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 05:53:11PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
  Would it be possible to have somewhere on the Debian servers for storing 
  such
  files so that they can be referenced in a README file or something rather 
  than
  sent to everyone?  I'm sure that most people who build a Wordpress package
  won't use them.
 
 If I downloaded a source package and didn't get source I would be most
 unimpressed.

Seconded!

If you say download some, and ignore the others in most cases, please
consider that in the case you really find out that you need the source,
you'll most likely be offline, and cannot do much about it (Murphy's
laws apply generously).

So I'd say, better get the whole chunk in one go to be safe.

Imho, much of the value of being entitled to have source is in actually
having it, instantanously, as opposed to merely having a legal option to
get it somehow, sometime.

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Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Toni Mueller
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 03:56:25PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
 Hopefully you've got the build-dependencies too. Which, if the source packages
 were split off into other packages, you'd then pull in.

Being able to read the source code can often get you quite far already,
but yes, usually, I want all the build dependencies and a locally
runnable copy, too.


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Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:34:39AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 So to use the image you need either a DVD or a USB stick, and if you're
 using a write-once DVD you're perhaps wasting the unused space; but the
 download time and install footprint are still kept low and in the range of
 what a CD would give.

my biggest gripe with DVDs is that they decay so quickly. A DVD, being
only a few months old, has already a high risk of being non-functional,
while a CD easily lasts more than a year.


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Re: Bug#672695: wordpress: no sane way for security updates in stable releases

2012-05-14 Thread Toni Mueller

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 09:56:17AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 packaging and security issues and is because we need N independent
 installations per server for different groups that can vary separately and

That's one reason why packaged versions of web apps are quite often
useless at my workplace, too.

 We're finding it very hard to use the packaged versions of large web
 application frameworks for a variety of reasons.  One of the big ones is
 that web developers seem to expect a very fast upgrade cycle that's hard

The requirement for fast upgrade cycles partly stems from the huge
attack surface that Internet-facing web apps have. It also stems from
the generally short turnaround times for new releases of software and
applications built on top of said web apps, as users keep demanding more
and newer features.

 to support in Debian; another is that it is really helpful for web
 applications to be able to give an entirely independent installation to
 each major site rather than trying to share the same code.  For another

Ack. That's also one factor driving the demand for virtual servers (xen,
kvm, you-name-it).


Just my 0.02 cents...


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openvz, was: Re: Bug#672695: wordpress: no sane way for security updates in stable releases

2012-05-14 Thread Toni Mueller
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 04:23:27PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
 This reminds me: is anyone going to bring back vserver or openvz in some

I'm for having openvz back, then.

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Re: Bug#672695: wordpress: no sane way for security updates in stable releases

2012-05-14 Thread Toni Mueller

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:53:25PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 04:23:27PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
  This reminds me: is anyone going to bring back vserver or openvz in some
  form?
 Ola Lundqvist o...@inguza.com had plans to do this in an
 OpenVZ-hosted repository.

Sounds good...

  Otherwise, wheezy would end up with no containers.  Xen does kernel
  virtualization and thus takes an order of magnitude more memory, lxc is not
  supposed to be secure (it provides a chroot with usage limits, but no
  isolation).
 User IDs and capabilities aren't yet properly namespaced.  So you
 can't create a container-root user to manage the container from the
 inside, and you can't rent out a container as a VPS.

But that's a major application of this technology.

 That doesn't mean we have 'no containers'.

But in practice, it means that many users have to migrate, or abstain
from upgrading. Or will lxc be completely ready for Wheezy?


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Re: Bug#672695: wordpress: no sane way for security updates in stable releases

2012-05-13 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:26:26AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 The value is the same as for most packages: it's easy to install and
 easy to upgrade (I assume; I don't use Wordpress).  Yes, the expected

if someone in Debian would want to make that effort, I'd say that
Wordpress and the like should go to squeeze-updates (volatile was a
better name, imho). But then, to be useful, some serious work would
probably have to go into the package, as just running it on top of
Apache + mod_php seems to be one of the least desirable options.


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Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-28 Thread Toni Mueller
On 03/17/2012 01:40 PM, Philip Hands wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:23:57 +0800, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
 NAME=package-binary-file
 DESC=package daemon description

 [ -e . /usr/share/sysv-lib/debsysv-lib ]  debsysv-init-lib $@
 
 I'm happy to help with that ... although, I doubt we're the first people
 to think of something like this, and it would be a shame to ignore an
 existing solution.

 OpenWRT does something quite interesting, which is that they have an
 /etc/rc.common and then make the init scripts start thus:


 Any others?


As you are contemplating non-Linux systems anyway, maybe this might be
of interest to you, too:

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/rc.d/


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Re: leaks in our only-signed-software fortress

2012-02-21 Thread Toni Mueller
On 02/18/2012 11:48 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
 What about a debhelper script that receives an URL (or set of mirror URLs) 
 and 
 a SHA1 and does the download and check?

If you're going this way, try to peek at the *BSD's ports systems,
specifically their 'distinfo' files. SHA1 is not enough, imho.

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Accepted python-webunit 1:1.3.10-2 (source all)

2012-02-20 Thread Toni Mueller
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 python-webunit - Unit testing for web apps with code that acts like a web 
browser.
Changes: 
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Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2012-01-01 Thread Toni Mueller
On 12/21/2011 11:55 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
 Nowadays 100G disks are small by laptop standards and for desktops 1TB is 
 about the smallest that anyone would buy.

Focussing on the desktop is the core of this - imho - misguided idea.
I'd still like to be able have a small, self-contained, Debian that I
can run on about anything. /usr is where all the real bloat (Gnome etc.)
lies, which may or may not be available, and if you eg. consider your
favourite phone storage, that's 512MB internally, or similar, with /home
presumably on an external storage (SD card).

 Things have changed a lot since the FSSTD first came out.

Indeed. Nowadays, we should support a much wider range of devices, not
just computers the size of refrigerators.


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Re: 486 still being sold NEW / was Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-12-06 Thread Toni Mueller
On 11/21/2011 07:52 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 Since we're theorising, rather than talking about actual users, my
 theory is that these are sold as replacements for installed systems,
 which will run the exact same software as the original - not Debian
 7.0.  It would be silly to start a new deployment reliant on parts
 that have already been EOL'd.

I may be mistaken, but the CPUs listed there are not original Intel, but
some clones that still could or could not be in production. Seeing that
these 486-class devices specify DDR2 as their memory interface suggests
that they are really not that old.

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Accepted roundup 1.4.18-1 (source all)

2011-06-14 Thread Toni Mueller
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Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Closes: 605882 616637
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Re: MBF alert: packages with very long source / .deb filenames

2011-04-10 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Fri, 25.03.2011 at 14:17:06 +, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote:
 If we really want to meet the spec, we should be aiming for  64
 characters, but that affects 98 packages and I'm not *too* bothered
 about it since testing shows no issues thus far. I'm tempted to file:
 
  * serious bugs on the packages over 90 characters
  * normal bugs on those over 80
  * wishlist bugs on those over 64
 
 Thoughts?

just a shot into the dark:

Would it be feasible, or at least possible, to file bug reports with
upstream to have the permissible length of filenames officially
extended? I mean, everyone has started to use long file names, haven't
they?


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Re: Misc Developer News (#24)

2010-11-17 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Sun, 07.11.2010 at 11:45:05 +0800, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
 Screenshots on packages.d.o
 ---
 
  You may have noticed that packages.d.o now includes screenshots[1]
  with a link to a the Debian screenshots site[2]. Where a screenshot
  isn't available a No screenshot available image invites users
  to submit screenshots.

I guess the majority of packages don't lend themselves to have a
screenshot. All libraries, and many daemons, come to mind. Would it be
possible to exclude the screenshot feature for such packages? It always
takes some time to find the no screenshot available image, which
makes the p.d.o site even slower than it already is.


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Accepted postfix-cluebringer 2.0.10-1 (source all)

2010-10-10 Thread Toni Mueller
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Format: 1.8
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:05:15 +0200
Source: postfix-cluebringer
Binary: postfix-cluebringer postfix-cluebringer-pgsql postfix-cluebringer-mysql 
postfix-cluebringer-sqlite3 postfix-cluebringer-webui
Architecture: source all
Version: 2.0.10-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Nikolai Lusan niko...@lusan.id.au
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 postfix-cluebringer - anti-spam plugin for Postfix
 postfix-cluebringer-mysql - metapackage for mysql support in 
postfix-cluebringer
 postfix-cluebringer-pgsql - metapackage for postgresql support in 
postfix-cluebringer
 postfix-cluebringer-sqlite3 - metapackage for sqlite3 support in 
postfix-cluebringer
 postfix-cluebringer-webui - anti-spam plugin for Postfix
Closes: 577270
Changes: 
 postfix-cluebringer (2.0.10-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [Nikolai Lusan niko...@lusan.id.au]
   * Initial release (Closes: #577270).
   * Add system user and group 'cluebringer'.
   * Add Readme.Debian for webui package.
   * Switch to dpkg-source 3.0 (quilt) format.
 .
   [Toni Mueller t...@debian.org]
   * Updated to current standards version
   * ripped out all dbconfig-common stuff
   * added some upstream patches
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Re: recovering from compromised keys

2010-09-24 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Thu, 23.09.2010 at 15:13:06 +0100, Simon McVittie s...@debian.org wrote:
 Needing an unencrypted /boot just means you have to distrust /boot after you
 lose and then regain control of your laptop.

this probably means that you have to do this everytime you've set the
device aside, or after you wake up in the morning, because there's
probably only half as much fun for three-letter agencies if you *know*
that they (or someone, the thief) interfere(s).


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Re: Downloading Testing with Jigdo unsupported?

2010-08-24 Thread Toni Mueller


On Tue, 24.08.2010 at 22:12:37 +0800, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
 Probably you are looking for this?
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-cd/

Yes. The link to this isn't published prominently, but I found it at
last.

Thank you!


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Downloading Testing with Jigdo unsupported?

2010-08-23 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi,

I was under the impression that Testing installer images should be
auto-generated on a weekly basis. Now I look at

http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/, and at
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/jigdo-cd/

and find that the images are all actually several months old, while at
this place

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/

images are fresh. What gives?


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Accepted roundup 1.4.15-3 (source all)

2010-08-17 Thread Toni Mueller
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Version: 1.4.15-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Changes: 
 roundup (1.4.15-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix typo (closes upstream issue 2550665)
 The typo prevents users from registering.
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Raw Idea: one more control field for sponsors

2010-08-11 Thread Toni Mueller


Hi,

while working on a package I'm going to sponsor, it occurred to me with
all the DD, DM and sponsoring going on, that I'd like to have a field
in debian/control, like eg.

Bugs-To: some...@debian.org, ...

to have some...@debian.org automatically subscribed to the bugs for
this package, much in the same vein as the 'Uploaders:' field works.

I have found out that there are other ways to get at the bug reports
for some random package, but this could probably simplify things from
the perspective of a sponsor.

I would also like to know whether you think it is a good idea that a
sponsor be automatically subscribed to the bugs for all packages he
sponsors.


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Re: Raw Idea: one more control field for sponsors

2010-08-11 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Wed, 11.08.2010 at 17:48:09 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin jac...@debian.org 
wrote:
 Toni Mueller wrote:
  in debian/control, like eg.
  Bugs-To: some...@debian.org, ...
 This is the info which IMHO belongs to PTS and should stay there.

after rethinking the issue, I agree that it's better to not add a field
to the debian/control file.

Originally, I thought it would simplify things, but I'm no longer
convinced.


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Accepted funkload 1.13.0-1 (source all)

2010-08-09 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 funkload   - web testing tool
Closes: 592079
Changes: 
 funkload (1.13.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * new upstream release
   * moved to new packaging scheme
   * fixed debian/control (closes: #592079)
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Accepted roundup 1.4.15-2 (source all)

2010-08-08 Thread Toni Mueller
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Changes: 
 roundup (1.4.15-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * fixing programming errors, upstream issue 2550661
   * correcting packaging error which omitted several conffiles
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Accepted roundup 1.4.15-1 (source all)

2010-08-07 Thread Toni Mueller
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Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 16:47:00 +0200
Source: roundup
Binary: roundup
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.4.15-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Changes: 
 roundup (1.4.15-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream
   * Switch to dpkg-source 3.0 (quilt) format
   * Appropriated patches which predate my maintainership of this
 package (sorry, I'm still fighting with the tools). Please
 send corrections my way.
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Accepted python-webunit 1:1.3.10-1 (source all)

2010-08-07 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 python-webunit - Unit testing for web apps with code that acts like a web 
browser.
Changes: 
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 .
   * new upstream
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Re: Xen for Squeeze, 3.4 or 4.0

2010-07-19 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

I know that I'm a bit late...

On Thu, 10.06.2010 at 17:54:28 +0200, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote:
 My personal preference would be to go with 4.0.

If it's one, then I opt for 4.0.

Thank you very much!


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Bug#560244: ITP mysql-cluster

2010-06-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org


* Package name: mysql-cluster
  Version : 7.1.3
  Upstream Author : Oracle
* URL : http://dev.mysql.com
* License : GPLv2
  Programming Lang: C, C++
  Description : cluster-enabled version of the MySQL database
system

Some time ago, MySQL upstream separated the development of the regular
MySQL server, and MySQL-Cluster. Since, the Debian MySQL-Packagers Team
has dropped the support for clustering from the regular MySQL server
package.

This package is inteded to fill the gap and bring MySQL cluster support
back to Debian.

Any help, esp. by the MySQL Packagers Team, would be MUCH appreciated.


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Accepted roundup 1.4.13-3 (source all)

2010-05-03 Thread Toni Mueller
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Version: 1.4.13-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Closes: 579927
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted funkload 1.11.0-3 (source all)

2010-05-02 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 funkload   - web testing tool
Closes: 579743
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted funkload 1.11.0-4 (source all)

2010-05-02 Thread Toni Mueller
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
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 .
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Accepted roundup 1.4.13-2 (source all)

2010-04-24 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Closes: 577184 577186
Changes: 
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 .
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Re: taxbird co: please provide updates via volatile

2010-04-10 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Fri, 09.04.2010 at 19:30:43 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@debian.org 
wrote:
 On 09/04/10 10:05, Toni Mueller wrote:
  I suggest that updates to taxbird and its dependencies are provided via
  volatile.
 Why do you mail -devel and not taxb...@p.d.o or the maintainer or the bts?

I was unaware of the 'taxb...@p.d.o' mail address, and thought that
someone else than the original maintainer(s) should do the work.


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taxbird co: please provide updates via volatile

2010-04-09 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

I suggest that updates to taxbird and its dependencies are provided via
volatile.

Reason:

Users of taxbird have to comply with certain legal requirements, and
eg. Lenny's version of taxbird is unfit to create tax reports for this
year, while the version in Testing pulls in a significant number of
other (Gnome?) stuff, which I find undesirable.

I would therefore like to see taxbird updates via volatile, so that
users of Stable can actually use it during the lifetime of the release.


FWIW, I've created a (rough) backport that's available from my p.d.o
homepage.


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Accepted roundup 1.4.13-1 (source all)

2010-04-05 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Changes: 
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 .
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  to main/r/roundup/roundup_1.4.13-1.dsc
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Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-04-03 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Wed, 31.03.2010 at 08:46:01 +0100, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org 
wrote:
 On Dienstag, 30. März 2010, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote:
   squid!
   (Or any other normal http proxy. I don't recommend any apt-proxy
   solution...)
  Can you explain why?
 
 apt-proxy had issues when I tried (as well as others, which I cannot 
 rememeber 
 now),

me too. Apt-proxy has a very unpleasant tendency to simply hang every
now and then, and has almost been declared deprecated.

 approx iirc requires to changes /etc/apt/sources list, squid always 

Yes. You need to point your sources.list to the apt-proxy instance.

 worked for me and never had issues, squid is useful for more then just 
 proxying apt repositories, squid can be set up as a transparent proxy quite 
 easily, updating a full/partial mirror usually takes more bandwidth then just 
 using a proxy.

Actually, squid has its own slew of problems. Eg. I've yet to see a
machine where Squid runs reliably under anything resembling a
reasonable load, instead of falling over frequently, and it can be
difficult to have the features work that you want in such a setting.
Eg. Lenny's version of Squid doesn't work for me on Lenny.

I'm currently test-driving apt-cacher-ng, which has it's own bag of
problems so far, but seems to be lighter and so far more reliable than
apt-proxy.


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Re: Xen, Squeeze, and Beyond

2010-03-21 Thread Toni Mueller


On Sat, 27.02.2010 at 21:59:39 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
 ]] Faidon Liambotis 
 | Beyond that, I've also seen filesystem corruption when using live
 | migration and the filesystem cache hasn't been disabled -- an almost
 | undocumented directive of libvirt's XML.
 | 
 | All in all, I'm wondering how people can call this stable.
 
 I would guess at most people not using live migration and so never
 hitting those kinds of problems.

I have not used live migration, either, but unless Michael Tokarev's
efforts turn out to be fruitful, I'll be out of KVM due to much bigger
problems than a non-working live migration, and at that point, Xen
would be the only alternative.

Thanks to Faidon for the heads-up on the heads-up on this migration
problem!


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Re: Bits from the release team: Release schedule; the RT needs YOU

2010-02-15 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Mon, 08.02.2010 at 20:13:48 +0100, Marc Brockschmidt h...@debian.org wrote:
 we wish to freeze only after the number of these bugs has dropped below
 the mark of 300. As you can see on the usual overview pages [RC-Bugs],

great decision, imho.

 Work towards fixing these bugs is greatly appreciated. We will use our
 release superpowers to aggressively remove leaf packages from testing
 (in fact, another round of removals happened on the weekend).

What's the current policy about NMUs, then?


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Accepted funkload 1.11.0-1 (source all)

2010-02-04 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
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Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted funkload 1.11.0-2 (source all)

2010-02-04 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
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 .
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Accepted sec 2.5.3-1+nmu1 (source all)

2010-02-02 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jaakko Niemi li...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 sec- Simple Event Correlator
Closes: 539808
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 .
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   * New upstream (Closes: #539808)
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Accepted roundup 1.4.11-1 (source all)

2009-12-24 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
Closes: 284394
Changes: 
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 .
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   * amended README.Debian (closes: #284394)
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Accepted roundup 1.4.10-2 (source all)

2009-12-03 Thread Toni Mueller
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
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 .
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Accepted roundup 1.4.10-1 (source all)

2009-12-01 Thread Toni Mueller
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Changed-By: Toni Mueller t...@debian.org
Description: 
 roundup- an issue-tracking system
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 .
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