Re: intent to hijack python-paramiko

2006-07-17 Thread Wouter van Heyst

On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 07:40:37PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-17 19:35]:
> > 1.6.1 is now upstream, and #344734 is over half a year old. Unless
> > we hear from the maintainer (Jeremy Bouse, on CC to be sure) by the
> > end of this week, we will take over the package as it's blocking bzr
> 
> He was moving cross-country in May, so I suggest you NMU for now.

Would NMUing a new upstream be ok in this instance then?

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Re: ITP: open.tool -- User guide for GNUMail

2005-11-28 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:48:50PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:25:25PM +0100, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
> >   Description : GNUstep open tool
> >  Tool to open files and applications and what not. 
> > 
> >  Users that have worked with open on OPENSTEP or Mac OS X,
> >  will be familiar with this tool. 
> 
> You might want to be a lot more descriptive. It “opens applications”? What?
> And “what not”? Please explain what this tool actually does.

Well, it is what it does I guess, ala 'start' on Windows. I agree the
description needs to be improved, good luck coming up with something
descriptive though.

Wouter van Heyst



Re: To Linux or not to Linux

2005-09-02 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:05:25PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote:

> I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter meant:  the people you are 
> trying to convince already believe in what you are saying.
> I suspect that Yavor interpeted this as: the people you are trying to 
> convince don't care.
> 
> The first meaning is the correct meaning, however due to the strong 
> negative connotation of the phrase it is not uncommon to misinterpret it.

The only negative connotation I can think of is that you don't get any
new converts, not something that would cross my mind initially.
Do people interpret the phrase negatively otherwise?

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Re: Bug#325371: ITP: binfmtc -- a binfmt_misc hook for running C programs as scripts

2005-08-28 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 12:21:42PM +0200, Romain Francoise wrote:
> Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I would be interested to know if there is any existing tool that does
> > something similar, and also if anyone finds use for such system.
> 
> TCC does C scripting, but it's nowhere near as complete as GCC and while
> it runs much faster, the resulting code is not optimized at all and runs
> very slowly.

Are you sure? http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/tcc/ claims it produces
optimized x86 code, which could be a problem on other archs.

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Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-20 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 07:42:16PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote:
> 
> >Wait, if a reliable upstream wrt timely security fixes is
> >a recommendation or requirement, we might have to get of a *fair*
> >share of the archive... and that's not only the unmaintained
> >software!
> 
> Well i meant both security and other updates. In the case where no better 
> upstream exists, it is acceptable to have a lame one. However in the case 
> of QIII I'd be willing to bet that no less than 3 better upstreams exist 
> already. After all Q2 has quakeforge, so I'd find it hard to belive nobody 
> has started something similar.

ID even goes so far as to mention that in their README:

"Whenever an id game is released under GPL, several projects
start making the source code more friendly to nowaday's
compilers and environements.  If you are picking up this release
weeks/months/years after we uploaded it, you probably want to
look around on the net for cleaned up versions of this codebase
as well."

While ID is to thank for the code, others will be supporting it, finding
those might be useful (and I agree with not trying to become upstream,
unless the OP is part of such a project already)

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Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-17 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:07:33PM +0200, Jeremie Koenig wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 08:18:29AM -0500, Donald J Bindner wrote:
> > 
> >  1) rebrand mozilla-firefox
> >  2) create a permanent "transition package" with the firefox name
> > that depends on it
> >  3) use alternatives to provide /usr/bin/firefox
> > 
> > The description of the transition package should briefly explain
> > what is happening, that the transition package merely depends on
> > a rebranded/forked version of the Mozilla Firefox web browser.
> > This way, you are using the TM term to refer to the correct
> > product but substituting a rebrand seemlessly (without the
> > kind of confusion that would run you afoul of TM law).
> 
> I think it's a good compromise. I'd like to suggest:
> 
>   4) make the program's branding depend on argv[0].

Do trademarks only apply to binaries, or to source also? A running
firefox will prominently display the trademarked bits in question, but
hey, the source being open for viewing is important here.

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Re: Debian concordance

2005-06-17 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 01:55:57PM -0500, Ian Murdock wrote:



> I don't doubt there were changes, even some worthwhile changes,
> between the version of libc in sarge and the versions in
> hoary/breezy. My question is: Are the changes worth breaking
> compatibility? It's a cost/benefit thing. And if they're
> important enough, why aren't they going into Debian directly?
> 
> I understand why Ubuntu was moving ahead of Debian before, since
> Debian was so far behind. But now that sarge is out, don't
> you think it would be worthwhile to give Debian a chance to fix its
> release cycle problems and, better yet, to try to help fix them,
> rather than simply saying "Debian is too slow/unpredictable for us"?

Pardon me, but wouldn't hoary and sarge be (roughly) compatible, and
breezy with etch (hoping on a slightly faster release cycle).

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Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-04-07 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 10:22:15PM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
> Scribit Steve Greenland dies 06/04/2005 hora 17:37:
> > There's a long history of people relying on explicitly unspecified
> > behaviour, and then bitching when that behaviour changes. 
> 
> For the sake of my curiosity again, could you point me some precise
> examples?

Gcc compiling not so correct C++ code.

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Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-04-02 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 03:01:34PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:

> non-free isn't part of Debian. Using loadable firmware is becoming
> increasingly common in hardware design. In the fairly near future, most
> modern hardware is likely to require it in order to allow installation. 
> 
> > It would be a better course of action to solve those problems than to
> > deliberately mislabel non-free firmware as free.
> 
> I'm not suggesting that we claim that firmware is Free, but putting it
> in non-free is:
> 
> (a) going to result in an awkward situation for installation, and

The awkwad situation would be that d-i is part of Debian, and non-free
isn't, so anything in non-free can not be part of the installer?
But having a (non-free) firmware section with components of that in the
installer is ok?

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Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-01 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:16:58PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:28:33PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > I think we need to establish a header format policy, and I suggest
> > something similar to debian/control, e.g.
> 
> I must say, that the Gentoo-Way looks better than this.

What is the Gentoo-Way?

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Re: list what's in the NEW queue?

2005-02-03 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 06:03:04PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
>  * it's not ftp-master's business to judge on _technical_ merits of the
>pacakge (bad packaging practices, missing dependencies, ignores
>/chapter and verse/ of policy, ...), so we can safely rule that one
>out

I had the impression this was an important part of the job.

Wouter


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