Maintainer of package joystick may be missing

2007-09-25 Thread laszlo kajan
Dear Debian MIA Team,

I made a small patch for the jscal.c in the joystick package.

I then tried to contact the maintainer, Edward Betts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
on 09/17/2007, with no success.

As recommended on the page 'Debian Developer's Reference Chapter 7 /
Dealing with inactive and/or unreachable maintainers', I tried to gather
information on Edward Betts:

- his debian home page http://people.debian.org/~edward/ does not seem
to have content newer than 08-Dec-2005

- according to
http://asdfasdf.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/?edward%40debian.org, he has
not uploaded anything for two years

- there are 2 patches against hist joystick package that are not
included, the latest dates from 01 Nov 2005

- searching for Edward Betts on google, I have not noticed anything
after 2005

Unfortunately going to the developers' LDAP database
(https://db.debian.org/) did not yield the date when he last posted to a
Debian mailing list (this was suggested in the Developers' Reference).

Please show me the way I can have my patch included in jscal.c of the
joystick package. I believe it is useful and I immediately wanted to
share it with others. This however turns out to be a lot more difficult
than I expected. Edward Betts seems to be unavailable for almost two
years now, and so there is nobody to apply my - or the other 2 in the
queue - patch to the source.

I thank you for your kind help in advance.

Best regards,

Laszlo Kajan


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Re: Maintainer of package joystick may be missing

2007-09-27 Thread laszlo kajan
Dear Aníbal,

I uploaded the button and axis remapping patch against
joystick/20051019-1.1. This most recent patch also includes updates for
the jscal manpage, documenting the new command line arguments.

Thank you for your help.

Best regards,

Laszlo Kajan


Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:24:14PM +0200, laszlo kajan wrote:
>> Please show me the way I can have my patch included in jscal.c of the
>> joystick package. I believe it is useful and I immediately wanted to
>> share it with others.
> 
> Please file a bug report (including the patch) against the joystick
> package.
> 
> Aníbal Monsalve Salazar


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Bug#659964: ITP: proftmb -- per-residue prediction of bacterial transmembrane beta barrels

2012-02-15 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: proftmb
  Version : 1.1.7
  Upstream Author : Henry Bigelow 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : per-residue prediction of bacterial transmembrane beta 
barrels

proftmb provides a four state (up-strand, down-strand, periplasmic loop, and
outer loop) per-residue prediction for the protein.



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Bug#660272: ITP: sift -- predict if an amino acid substitution in a protein has phenotypic effect

2012-02-17 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: sift
  Version : 3.0
  Upstream Author : Pauline Ng 
* URL : http://sift-dna.org/
* License : FHCRC NONCOMMERCIAL LICENSE 
<ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/repository/blocks/unix/blimps/LICENSE>
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : predict if an amino acid substitution in a protein has 
phenotypic effect

SIFT is a sequence homology-based tool that sorts intolerant from tolerant
amino acid substitutions and predicts whether an amino acid substitution
in a protein will have a phenotypic effect.



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Bug#661111: ITP: ffindex -- simple index/database for huge amounts of small files

2012-02-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: ffindex
  Version : 0.9.3
  Upstream Author : Andreas Hauser 
* URL : 
http://pubshare.genzentrum.lmu.de/scientific_computing/software/ffindex/
* License : CC-BY-SA-3.0
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : simple index/database for huge amounts of small files

FFindex is a very simple index/database for huge amounts of small files. The
files are stored concatenated in one big data file, separated by '\0'. A
second file contains a plain text index, giving name, offset and length of
the small files. The lookup is currently done with a binary search on an
array made from the index file.



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Bug#666192: ITP: librostlab -- C++ library from the Rost Lab

2012-03-29 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: librostlab
  Version : 1.0.20
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : LGPL-3+
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : C++ library from the Rost Lab

 The library provides the following facilities:
 * current working directory resource
 * exception with stack backtrace
 * file lock resource
 * passwd and group structures for C++
 * effective uid and gid resource
 * rostlab::bio::seq class with stream input operator for FASTA format
 * umask resource



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Bug#666193: ITP: librostlab-blast -- very fast C++ library for parsing NCBI BLAST output

2012-03-29 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: librostlab-blast
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : LGPL
  Programming Lang: C, C++
  Description : very fast C++ library for parsing NCBI BLAST output

 This package provides a very fast library for parsing the NCBI BLAST default
 (-m 0) output.



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Bug#666194: ITP: librg-blast-parser-perl -- very fast NCBI BLAST parser - binding for perl

2012-03-29 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: librg-blast-parser-perl
  Version : 0.02
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : very fast NCBI BLAST parser - binding for perl

 This package contains perl binding for a very fast C/C++ library for NCBI
 BLAST -m 0 (default) output parsing.  BLAST results are returned in a
 convenient hash structure.



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Bug#669259: ITP: dssp -- protein secondary structure assignment based on 3D structure

2012-04-18 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: dssp
  Version : 2.0.4
  Upstream Author : Maarten L. Hekkelman 
* URL : http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/dssp/
* License : Boost-1.0
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : protein secondary structure assignment based on 3D structure

 DSSP is an application to assign the secondary structure of a protein
 based on its three dimensional (3D) structure.
 .
 This version (2) of DSSP is a rewrite that produces the same output as the
 original DSSP, but deals better with exceptions in PDB files and is much
 faster.



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Bug#676384: ITP: libsort-key-top-perl -- select and sort top n elements

2012-06-06 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: libsort-key-top-perl
  Version : 0.06
  Upstream Author : Salvador Fandiño 
* URL : 
http://search.cpan.org/~salva/Sort-Key-Top-0.06/lib/Sort/Key/Top.pm
* License : Perl Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : select and sort top n elements in Perl

The functions available from this module select the top n elements from a list 
using several common orderings and custom key extraction procedures.



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Bug#680539: ITP: hmmer2 -- profile hidden Markov models for protein sequence analysis (version 2)

2012-07-06 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

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* Package name: hmmer2
  Version : 2.3.2
  Upstream Author : Sean Eddy 
* URL : ftp://selab.janelia.org/pub/software/hmmer/
* License : GPL-2+
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : profile hidden Markov models for protein sequence analysis 
(version 2)

 HMMER is an implementation of profile hidden Markov model methods for
 sensitive searches of biological sequence databases using multiple sequence
 alignments as queries.
 .
 Given a multiple sequence alignment as input, HMMER builds a statistical
 model called a "hidden Markov model" which can then be used as a query into
 a sequence database to find (and/or align) additional homologues of the
 sequence family.

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Bug#723747: ITP: libfreecontact-perl -- fast protein contact predictor - binding for Perl

2013-09-19 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

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* Package name: libfreecontact-perl
  Version : 0.08
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : GPL-1+ or Artistic
  Programming Lang: C, Perl
  Description : fast protein contact predictor - binding for Perl

 FreeContact is a protein residue contact predictor optimized for speed.
 Its input is a multiple sequence alignment. FreeContact can function as an
 accelerated drop-in for the published contact predictors
 EVfold-mfDCA of DS. Marks (2011) and
 PSICOV of D. Jones (2011).
 .
 FreeContact is accelerated by a combination of vector instructions, multiple
 threads, and faster implementation of key parts.
 Depending on the alignment, 8-fold or higher speedups are possible.
 .
 A sufficiently large alignment is required for meaningful results.
 As a minimum, an alignment with an effective (after-weighting) sequence count
 bigger than the length of the query sequence should be used. Alignments with
 tens of thousands of (effective) sequences are considered good input.
 .
 jackhmmer(1) from the hmmer package, or hhblits(1) from hhsuite
 can be used to generate the alignments, for example.
 .
 This package contains the Perl binding.

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Bug#723771: ITP: python-freecontact -- fast protein contact predictor - binding for Python

2013-09-19 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

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* Package name: python-freecontact
  Version : 1.1
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: C++, Python
  Description : fast protein contact predictor - binding for Python

FreeContact is a protein residue contact predictor optimized for speed.
Its input is a multiple sequence alignment. FreeContact can function as an
accelerated drop-in for the published contact predictors
EVfold-mfDCA of DS. Marks (2011) and
PSICOV of D. Jones (2011).

FreeContact is accelerated by a combination of vector instructions, multiple
threads, and faster implementation of key parts.
Depending on the alignment, 8-fold or higher speedups are possible.

A sufficiently large alignment is required for meaningful results.
As a minimum, an alignment with an effective (after-weighting) sequence count
bigger than the length of the query sequence should be used. Alignments with
tens of thousands of (effective) sequences are considered good input.

jackhmmer(1) from the hmmer package, or hhblits(1) from hhsuite
can be used to generate the alignments, for example.

This package contains the Python binding.

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Bug#684403: ITP: python-librcsb-core-wrapper -- library that exports C++ mmCIF accessors to Python

2012-08-09 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

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* Package name: python-librcsb-core-wrapper
  Version : 1.000
  Upstream Author : Vladimir Guranovic 
* URL : http://sw-tools.rcsb.org/apps/CORE-WRAPPER/index.html
* License : RCSB PDB SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT, Henry Spencer's regex 
license
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : library that exports C++ mmCIF accessors to Python

This package provides RCSB Core Wrapper, a library that exports C++ mmCIF
accessors to Python.
.
This library is built on top of RCSB CIFPARSE-OBJ, a library that provides an
object-oriented interface to information in mmCIF format.

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Bug#689020: ITP: concavity -- predictor of protein ligand binding sites from 3D structure and sequence conservation

2012-09-28 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

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* Package name: concavity
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Thomas Funkhouser , John A. Capra 

* URL : http://compbio.cs.princeton.edu/concavity/
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : predictor of protein ligand binding sites from 3D structure 
and sequence conservation

 ConCavity predicts protein ligand binding sites by combining evolutionary
 sequence conservation and 3D structure.
 .
 ConCavity takes as input a PDB format protein structure and (optionally)
 files that characterize the evolutionary sequence conservation of the chains
 in the structure file.
 .
 The following result files are produced (by default):
  * residue ligand binding predictions for each chain (*.scores)
  * residue ligand binding predictions in a PDB format file (residue
scores placed in the temp. factor field, *_residue.pdb
  * pocket prediction locations in a DX format file (*.dx)
  * PyMOL script to visualize the predictions (*.pml)
 .
 ConCavity has many features.  The default run of concavity is equivalent to
 ConCavity^L in the paper:
 'Capra JA, Laskowski RA, Thornton JM, Singh M, and Funkhouser TA(2009)
 Predicting Protein Ligand Binding Sites by Combining Evolutionary Sequence
 Conservation and 3D Structure. PLoS Comput Biol, 5(12).'.

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Bug#690058: ITP: conservation-code -- tool to score protein sequence conservation

2012-10-09 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

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* Package name: conservation-code
  Version : 20110309.0
  Upstream Author : John A. Capra , Mona Singh 

* URL : http://compbio.cs.princeton.edu/conservation/
* License : GPL-2.0+
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : protein sequence conservation scoring tool
  Enhances: concavity

 This package provides score_conservation(1), a tool to score protein sequence
 conservation.
 .
 The following conservation scoring methods are implemented:
  * sum of pairs
  * weighted sum of pairs
  * Shannon entropy
  * Shannon entropy with property groupings (Mirny and Shakhnovich 1995,
Valdar and Thornton 2001)
  * relative entropy with property groupings (Williamson 1995)
  * von Neumann entropy (Caffrey et al 2004)
  * relative entropy (Samudrala and Wang 2006)
  * Jensen-Shannon divergence (Capra and Singh 2007)
 .
 A window-based extension that incorporates the estimated conservation of
 sequentially adjacent residues into the score for each column is also given.
 This window approach can be applied to any of the conservation scoring
 methods.
 .
 The program accepts alignments in the CLUSTAL and FASTA formats.
 .
 The sequence-specific output can be used as the conservation input for
 concavity.
 .
 Conservation is highly predictive in identifying catalytic sites and
 residues near bound ligands.


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Bug#703256: RFH: gridengine -- Distributed resource management

2013-03-17 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

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Hello!

I am Laszlo Kajan, a member of the 'Gridengine packaging' project [1]. This
project team-maintains gridengine [2], a distributed resource management
system, in Debian.

gridengine used to be - well, still is on wheezy - a package of the Sun Grid
Engine.  Our team is now inclined to continue maintaining gridengine as one of
the free forks of the Sun Grid Engine: the Son of Grid Engine (SGE) [3].
The reason is that the upstream developer, Dave Love, is giving us a lot of
help with this, and is very enthusiastic about keeping Son of Grid Engine in
Debian.

Our team - I feel, after discussions in the team [4] - could use new members
willing to go deeper into the delicacies of packaging this distributed system
for Debian, and tackle the issues (see the thread in [4]). And to match Dave's
pace :).

If you are interested in gridengine and SGE and feel you can help, please send
an email to the team mailing list at
.

If you would like to check out the current Debianization, please visit [5].
Contributions to this wiki page are most welcome.

Best regards,
Laszlo

[1] https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-gridengine/
[2] http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/gridengine
[3] https://arc.liv.ac.uk/trac/SGE
[4] 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gridengine-devel/2013-March/000675.html
[5] http://wiki.debian.org/GridenginePackaging/GitGuide

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Bug#705537: ITP: metastudent -- predictor of Gene Ontology terms from protein sequence

2013-04-16 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

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* Package name: metastudent
  Version : 1.0.7
  Upstream Author : Tobias Hamp 
* URL : https://rostlab.org/owiki/index.php/Metastudent
* License : GPL-2+
  Programming Lang: Perl, Python, Java
  Description : predictor of Gene Ontology terms from protein sequence

 Often, only the sequence of a protein is known, but 
 not its functions. Metastudent will try to predict 
 missing functional annotations through homology searches (BLAST).
 .
 All predicted functions correspond to Gene Ontology (GO) 
 terms from the Molecular Function Ontology (MFO) and the Biological Process
 Ontology (BPO) and are associated with a reliability score.

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Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles!

(Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.)

@Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few 
bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but free data [2]. I have cited
your opinion [3] in this discussion before. You are on the technical committee 
and on the policy team, so you, together with Charles, can help
substantially here.

[2] 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2013-April/thread.html
[3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2013/03/msg00279.html

This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on big 
(e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'. These packages
apparently violate policy 2.2.1 [0] for inclusion in 'main' because they 
require software outside the 'main' area to function. They do not
violate point #1 of the social contract [1], which requires non-dependency on 
non-free components. For these big data packages, policy seems to
be overly restrictive compared to the social contract, leading to seemingly 
unfounded rejection from 'main'.

[0] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html
[1] http://www.debian.org/social_contract

* In case the social contract indeed allows such packages to be in 'main' (and 
policy is overly restrictive), how could it be ensured that the
packages are accepted?

* What is the procedure within Debian to elicit a decision about the handling 
of such packages in terms of archive area? Discussion on d-devel,
followed by policy change? Asking the policy team to clarify policy for such 
packages? Technical committee?

 + Charles suggested such packages could go into 'main' [4], with a clear 
indication of the large data dependency of the package in the long
description.
   When possible, providing the scripts for generating the large data as well.

 [4] 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2013-April/019292.html

My goal as a Debian Developer and a packager is to get packages into Debian (so 
'main') that are allowed in there, in reasonably short time. I
would like to resolve this issue properly, because I believe it may pop up more 
often in bioinformatics software. For example, imagine a protein
folding tool that would require a very large database to search for homologues 
for contact prediction, and using the contacts it would predict
protein three-dimensional structure. This has been done before [5], and such a 
tool would be (is) immensely useful for bioinformatics. This tool
would depend on gigabytes of data we would not package. Yet, by all means, I 
would want the tool to be part of the distribution.

[5] http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0028766

Thank you for your opinion and advice.

Best regards,
Laszlo


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Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Andreas!

On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
>>
>> This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on 
>> big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'.
> 
> In your practical case is this data say <500MB?  Are we talking about
> compressed or uncompressed data (= >400MB on users harddisk or on all
> Debian mirrors world-wide)?

It is around 404MB, gzip compressed [1]. I think it is not arch independent. I 
think BLAST databases (the main bulk in the tar.gz) are sensitive
to the size of int, and endian-ness.

[1] ftp://rostlab.org/metastudent/metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz

> We do actually have examples of >500MB binary packages:
> 
> udd@ullmann:/srv/mirrors/debian$ find . -type f -size +500M -name "*.deb"
> ./pool/main/f/freefoam/freefoam-dev-doc_0.1.0+dfsg-1_all.deb
> ./pool/main/libr/libreoffice/libreoffice-dbg_4.0.3~rc1-3_amd64.deb
> ./pool/main/libr/libreoffice/libreoffice-dbg_4.0.3~rc1-3_kfreebsd-amd64.deb
> ./pool/main/libr/libreoffice/libreoffice-dbg_4.0.3~rc1-2_amd64.deb
> ./pool/main/libr/libreoffice/libreoffice-dbg_4.0.3~rc1-2_kfreebsd-amd64.deb
> ./pool/main/n/ns3/ns3-doc_3.16+dfsg1-1_all.deb
> ./pool/main/n/ns3/ns3-doc_3.15+dfsg-1_all.deb
> ./pool/main/w/webkitgtk/libwebkit2gtk-3.0-0-dbg_1.11.91-1_amd64.deb
> ./pool/non-free/r/redeclipse-data/redeclipse-data_1.4-1_all.deb
> 
> Even if the topic should be clarified in general because we will
> certainly have larger data sets than this in the future I could imagine
> that packaging this very data in your case should not be the main
> problem under the current circumstances as long there is no better
> solution found.
> 
> I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data
> and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution
> for such cases if they will increase in the number and size of data
> packages.

All right, we will package and upload the big data in case no one thinks of a 
better solution and discussion dies in, say, a week.

Laszlo


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Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Benjamin!

On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:51 +0200 schrieb Laszlo Kajan:
>> Hello Andreas!
>>
>> On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that
>>>> depend on big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'.
>>>
>>> In your practical case is this data say <500MB?  Are we talking about
>>> compressed or uncompressed data (= >400MB on users harddisk or on all
>>> Debian mirrors world-wide)?
>>
>> It is around 404MB, gzip compressed [1]. I think it is not arch
>> independent. I think BLAST databases (the main bulk in the tar.gz) are
>> sensitive
>> to the size of int, and endian-ness.
>>
>> [1] ftp://rostlab.org/metastudent/metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz
> 
> You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The
> default compression level for xz reduces the size of the source tarball
> from 415 MB to 272 MB:
> 
> $ ls -1s --si metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar*
> 823M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar
> 381M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.bz2
> 415M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz
> 272M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.xz
> $ ls -1sh metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar*
> 784M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar
> 363M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.bz2
> 396M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz
> 259M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.xz

Ah great! Thanks for checking this. A lesson for the future. We will switch to 
xz. Best regards,

Laszlo


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Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Russ!

Thank you for getting back to me.

On 23/04/13 18:48, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Laszlo Kajan  writes:
> 
>> This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend
>> on big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'. These packages apparently
>> violate policy 2.2.1 [0] for inclusion in 'main' because they require
>> software outside the 'main' area to function. They do not violate point
>> #1 of the social contract [1], which requires non-dependency on non-free
>> components. For these big data packages, policy seems to be overly
>> restrictive compared to the social contract, leading to seemingly
>> unfounded rejection from 'main'.
> 
>> * In case the social contract indeed allows such packages to be in
>> 'main' (and policy is overly restrictive), how could it be ensured that
>> the packages are accepted?
> 
> Yes, I agree.  Although we should probably talk with ftp-master about
> whether they would like the data to just be packaged and uploaded as a
> regular package.

Ftp-master was included in the initial thread [1], but they did not (yet) 
respond, and I started to feel that it may be impolite to flood their
inbox with an issue like this. Since perhaps they alone can not decide about 
it. So yes, ftp-master is included in the mail once again.

[1] 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2013-April/019282.html

>> * What is the procedure within Debian to elicit a decision about the
>> handling of such packages in terms of archive area? Discussion on
>> d-devel, followed by policy change? Asking the policy team to clarify
>> policy for such packages? Technical committee?
> 
> Discussing it on debian-devel seems right, but I would also draw it to
> ftp-master's attention, since they're the people who have to worry about
> archive size).  We can easily move on to modifying Policy if there's a
> consensus to let packages like that pull the data down from some external
> source.

How to gauge that consensus?

Laszlo


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Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hi Olivier!

On 24/04/13 08:20, Olivier Sallou wrote:
> 
> On 04/23/2013 11:48 AM, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
>> Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles!
>>
>> (Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.)
>>
>> @Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few 
>> bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but free data [2]. I have cited
>> your opinion [3] in this discussion before. You are on the technical 
>> committee and on the policy team, so you, together with Charles, can help
>> substantially here.
>>
>> [2] 
>> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2013-April/thread.html
>> [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2013/03/msg00279.html
>>
>> This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on 
>> big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'. These packages
>> apparently violate policy 2.2.1 [0] for inclusion in 'main' because they 
>> require software outside the 'main' area to function. They do not
>> violate point #1 of the social contract [1], which requires non-dependency 
>> on non-free components. For these big data packages, policy seems to
>> be overly restrictive compared to the social contract, leading to seemingly 
>> unfounded rejection from 'main'.
> Indeed, many bioinformatics programs relies on external data. But I am
> afraid that if we start to add some data packages, we will open an
> endless open door BioInformatics datasets are large, and becoming
> huge and numerous.
> This size will be an issue for Debian mirrors (mainly if some indexed
> data are system dependent) but will also be a pain for the user if, when
> installing a program (to have a look), it downloads GBs of dependent
> packaged data. It may be really slow and fill the user disk (and I do
> not talk of package updates).
> 
> Should not those data dependency clearly stated somewhere with the
> software package, with a script to get them ?

Yes, the former (clearly state large external data dependency in the long 
package description) is exactly what Charles Plessy recommended.
And your idea with the script to get the data is exactly what we implemented 
for this 'metastudent' package. So we clearly think along the same
lines... Now we just have to discuss it with the FTP master team as well, so we 
see if this is acceptable for them (or they prefer to have the
data in the archive).
Laszlo


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Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Didier!

On 24/04/13 09:32, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit :
>> I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data
>> and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution
>> for such cases if they will increase in the number and size of data
>> packages.
> 
> Isn't that what data.debian.org is supposed to be(come) ?
> 
>   * http://ftp-master.debian.org/wiki/projects/data/
>   * http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/09/msg00692.html

Thanks for pointing this out, I didn't know about this. This would work very 
well for the 'metastudent' (and other of the same kind) data. A
policy change (point 'We need to change policy.' of [1]) could be initiated, as 
Russ Allbery noted before [2]. But - data.debian.org does not
(yet) exist, does it?

[1] http://ftp-master.debian.org/wiki/projects/data/
[2] 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2013-April/019320.html

Laszlo


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Re: Re: Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Simon!

Thank you for these suggestions.

On 24/04/13 13:06, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On 23/04/13 10:48, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
>> free packages that depend on big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'
> 
> This comes up in the Games Team, too.
> 
> Here are some possibilities you might not have considered:
> 
> * Package a small "demo" data-set (enough to test that the package is
>   working correctly) in main; provide instructions to get the
>   "full-fat" data-set from elsewhere. I think VegaStrike used to do
>   this with its music, shipping a lower-quality encode in Debian and a
>   full-quality encode elsewhere? Games also often do this for legal
>   rather than size reasons, with an engine in contrib, demo/shareware
>   data in non-free, and instructions to replace the demo data with the
>   non-distributable full game if you own it; e.g. Quake II used to be
>   packaged like this.

This has come up before in our discussion. For this particular package 
('metastudent'), the entire data is necessary to obtain the published
functionality and performance. FTP Masters' decision to reject the original 
upload that depended on large external data, was based on this
dependency for functioning (policy 2.2.1). Providing a small demo dataset would 
render the tool practically useless, although it would look as
if it could function. In my view this solution would only obscure the fact that 
the package really does require the large data set. I would not
want that FTP masters accept 'metastudent' because I made its data dependency 
/seem/ to be solved within 'main'.

> * Split the data-set into reasonably-sized packages so it at least
>   gets better incremental downloads and splitting between CDs/DVDs
>   (bonus points if the source packages are segregated by update
>   frequency, so only the frequently-updated parts normally need
>   uploads). I did this with openarena-data (after some brief discussion
>   with the ftp-masters and the debian-cd maintainer) because I was sick
>   of uploading half a gigabyte of textures, etc. every time there was a
>   bug in the game scripting. They suggested that I should aim for 100MB
>   packages as a reasonable compromise between splitting too coarsely
>   and too finely.

This is a great idea. It seems we may be able to get the data down to ~130MB xz 
compressed (for metastudent, but this would not be the case for
e.g. predictprotein). We may be able to split this to two smaller packages. 
Indeed, we are update-frequency aware... trying to separate out what
might change more often.

Best regards, Laszlo


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Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-26 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear FTP Masters!

On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote:
[...]
> You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The
> default compression level for xz reduces the size of the source tarball
> from 415 MB to 272 MB:
> 
> $ ls -1s --si metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar*
> 823M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar
> 381M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.bz2
> 415M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz
> 272M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.xz
> $ ls -1sh metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar*
> 784M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar
> 363M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.bz2
> 396M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz
> 259M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.xz

Following Benjamin's suggestion and the data.debian.org document [1], we have 
prepared a 'metastudent-data' arch:all package that is ~130MB (xz
compressed).
The package builds required architecture dependent databases in the postinst 
script. The purpose of this is to save space in the archive that
each architecture dependent version would take up.
The arch:all package is almost identical to the source package.

* Please comment on this solution. If you like it, we will upload it (targeting 
the 'main' area), and have 'metastudent' (also in main) depend
on it.

[1] http://ftp-master.debian.org/wiki/projects/data/

Thank you for commenting.

Best regards,
Laszlo


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Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-27 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Ben!

On 27/04/13 00:46, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
>> Dear FTP Masters!
>>
>> On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote:
>> [...]
>>> You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The
>>> default compression level for xz reduces the size of the source tarball
>>> from 415 MB to 272 MB:
>>>
>>> $ ls -1s --si metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar*
>>> 823M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar
>>> 381M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.bz2
>>> 415M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz
>>> 272M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.xz
>>> $ ls -1sh metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar*
>>> 784M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar
>>> 363M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.bz2
>>> 396M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.gz
>>> 259M metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar.xz
>>
>> Following Benjamin's suggestion and the data.debian.org document [1], we 
>> have prepared a 'metastudent-data' arch:all package that is ~130MB (xz
>> compressed).
>> The package builds required architecture dependent databases in the postinst 
>> script. The purpose of this is to save space in the archive that
>> each architecture dependent version would take up.
> [...]
> 
> Does this mean that installing the package results in having two
> uncompressed copies of the data on disk?  If so, wouldn't it be
> better to do:

Indeed, the original arch:all version, and the native one. The arch:all version 
is not needed any more after conversion, and could be removed.
Thanks for drawing my attention to this.

> 1. Compress the database (with xz).
> 2. Build the package without compression (contents are already
>compressed so re-compressing would be a waste of time).
> 3. In postinst, decompress and convert the database to native.
> 
> However, I would expect the vast majority of installations to be on
> amd64, so if you always generate a 64-bit little-endian database
> and avoid duplicating when installing on such a machine then it
> would be better for most users (not so nice for others).
> 
> (Incidentally, arch:all packages generating arch-specific data have
> interesting interactions with multi-arch.  I doubt many people with
> multi-arch systems would want this package to generate multiple
> versions of the database, but you never know...)

I see. According to [1], Arch:all with Multi-Arch:same is an error.
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec

So at this point I see one way forward:

1: Move the postinst script into a new Arch:any package that depends on 
'metastudent-data'. This Arch:any package would build the native
database in postinst (with no multiarch support for now).

What do you think?

Best regards,
Laszlo


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Bug#641581: ITP: libzerg -- C library for parsing the output of NCBI BLAST programs

2011-09-14 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: libzerg
  Version : 1.0.7
  Upstream Author : Apua C.M. Paquola 
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/libzerg/
* License : GNU GPL v2
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : C library for parsing the output of NCBI BLAST programs
  Reference   : Paquola, Apuã C M, Machado, Abimael A, Reis, Eduardo M, Da 
Silva, Aline M, and Verjovski-Almeida, Sergio: Zerg: a very fast BLAST parser 
library., Bioinformatics 19(8), volume 19, 1035–6, May 2003

Zerg is a C library for parsing the output of NCBI BLAST programs. Based on a 
GNU Flex-generated lexical scanner, it runs extremely fast, being especially 
useful for processing large volumes of data. Benchmark tests show that Zerg is 
over two orders of magnitude faster than some widely used BLAST parsers.



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Bug#641799: ITP: libzerg-perl -- fast perl module for parsing the output of NCBI BLAST programs

2011-09-16 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: libzerg-perl
  Version : 1.0.4
  Upstream Author : Apuã Paquola
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/libzerg/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : fast perl module for parsing the output of NCBI BLAST 
programs

The Zerg library contains a C/flex lexical scanner for BLAST reports
and a set of supporting functions. It is centered on a "get_token"
function that scans the input for specified lexical elements and, when
one is found, returns its code and value to the user.
.
It is intended to be fast: for that we used flex, which provides
simple regular expression matching and input buffering in the
generated C scanner. And it is intended to be simple in the sense of
providing just a lexical scanner, with no features whose support could
slow down its main function.



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Bug#643323: ITP: profphd-utils -- profphd helper utilities convert_seq and filter_hssp

2011-09-27 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: profphd-utils
  Version : 1.0.7
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Fortran
  Description : profphd helper utilities convert_seq and filter_hssp

The package provides the following binary utilities: convert_seq, filter_hssp.
These are used by prof from the profphd package: a secondary structure,
accessibility and transmembrane helix predictor from Burkhard Rost.



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Bug#643324: ITP: profphd -- secondary structure and solvent accessibility predictor

2011-09-27 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: profphd
  Version : 1.0.35
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : secondary structure and solvent accessibility predictor

Solvent accessibility is predicted by a neural network method rating at a
correlation coefficient (correlation between experimentally observed and
predicted relative solvent accessibility) of 0.54 cross-validated on a set of
238 globular proteins (Rost & Sander, Proteins, 1994, 20, 216-226;
evaluation of accuracy). The output of the neural network codes for 10 states
of relative accessibility. Expressed in units of the difference between
prediction by homology modelling (best method) and prediction at random
(worst method), PROFacc is some 26 percentage points superior to a comparable
neural network using three output states (buried, intermediate, exposed) and
using no information from multiple alignments.
.
Transmembrane helices
in integral membrane proteins are predicted by a system of neural networks.
The shortcoming of the network system is that often too long helices are
predicted. These are cut by an empirical filter. The final prediction
(Rost et al., Protein Science, 1995, 4, 521-533; evaluation of accuracy)
has an expected per-residue accuracy of about 95%. The number of false
positives, i.e., transmembrane helices predicted in globular proteins, is
about 2%.
.
The neural network prediction of transmembrane helices
(PHDhtm) is refined by a dynamic programming-like algorithm. This method
resulted in correct predictions of all transmembrane helices for 89% of the
131 proteins used in a cross-validation test; more than 98% of the
transmembrane helices were correctly predicted. The output of this method
is used to predict topology, i.e., the orientation of the N-term with respect
to the membrane. The expected accuracy of the topology prediction is > 86%.
Prediction accuracy is higher than average for eukaryotic proteins and lower
than average for prokaryotes. PHDtopology is more accurate than all other
methods tested on identical data sets.



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Bug#643630: ITP: librg-utils-perl -- parsers and format conversion utilities used by (e.g.) profphd

2011-09-28 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: librg-utils-perl
  Version : 1.0.41
  Upstream Author : Burkhard Rost 
* URL : http://www.rostlab.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : parsers and format conversion utilities used by (e.g.) 
profphd

This package contains tools like:

* blast2saf.pl, blastpgp_to_saf.pl, conv_hssp2saf.pl, copf.pl, hssp_filter.pl,
safFilterRed.pl

and modules like:

* RG:Utils::Conv_hssp2saf RG:Utils::Copf RG:Utils::Hssp_filter



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Bug#643669: ITP: pp-popularity-contest -- PredictProtein popularity contest

2011-09-28 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: pp-popularity-contest
  Version : 1.0.3
  Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan 
* URL : http://www.rostlab.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : PredictProtein popularity contest

The pp-popularity-contest package sets up a cron job
that periodically submits the developers anonymous statistics on the usage of 
Rost Lab prediction methods installed on this system.
.
This information helps to make decisions like which packages
should receive high priority when fixing bugs or receive funding for further
development and support.
This information is also very important when the Rost Lab applies for funding.
.
Without the funding received based on the usage statistics you contribute by
installing this package none of the packages on Debian could have been made
available to you at no cost.
.
Please install this package when it is recommended.



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Bug#649995: ITP: libai-fann-perl -- Perl wrapper for the FANN library

2011-11-25 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: libai-fann-perl
  Version : 0.10
  Upstream Author : Salvador Fandino 
* URL : http://fann.sf.net/
* License : Perl Artistic License
  Programming Lang: C, C++, Perl
  Description : Perl wrapper for the FANN library

This module provides a Perl wrapper for the FANN library (http://fann.sf.net).



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Bug#655336: ITP: reprof -- protein secondary structure and accessibility predictor

2012-01-10 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: reprof
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Peter Hoenigschmid 
* URL : http://rostlab.org/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : protein secondary structure and accessibility predictor

'reprof' is an improved implementation of 'prof', a popular protein secondary
structure and accessibility predictor.
Prediction is either
done from protein sequence alone or from an alignment - the latter should be
used for optimal performance.



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Bug#656626: ITP: hhsuite -- sensitive protein sequence searching based on HMM-HMM alignment

2012-01-20 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 

* Package name: hhsuite
  Version : 2.0.4
  Upstream Author : Johannes Soeding, Michael Remmert, Andreas Hauser 
, Andreas Biegert
* URL : http://toolkit.genzentrum.lmu.de/sections/search
* License : GPLv3
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : sensitive protein sequence searching based on HMM-HMM 
alignment

The HH-suite is an open-source software package for sensitive protein sequence 
searching based on the
pairwise alignment of hidden Markov models (HMMs). It contains HHsearch and 
HHblits
among other programs and utilities.
.
HHsearch takes as input a multiple sequence alignment (MSA)
or profile HMM and searches a database of HMMs (e.g. PDB, Pfam, or InterPro) 
for homologous
proteins. HHsearch is often used for protein structure prediction to detect 
homologous templates
and to build highly accurate query-template pairwise alignments for homology 
modeling.
.
HHblits can build high-quality MSAs starting from single sequences or from 
MSAs. It transforms these into a query HMM
and, using an iterative search strategy, adds significantly similar sequences 
from the previous search
to the updated query HMM for the next search iteration. Compared to PSI-BLAST, 
HHblits is
faster, up to twice as sensitive and produces more accurate alignments.



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Bug#657897: ITP: blimps -- FHCRC BLocks IMProved Searcher

2012-01-29 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laszlo Kajan 


* Package name: blimps
  Version : 3.9
  Upstream Author : Jorja Henikoff 
* URL : ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/repository/blocks/unix/blimps/
* License : FHCRC NONCOMMERCIAL LICENSE 
<ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/repository/blocks/unix/blimps/LICENSE>
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : blocks database improved searcher

BLIMPS (BLocks IMProved Searcher) is a searching tool that scores
a sequence against blocks or a block against sequences.



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