Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers
I would like to ask why essential packages are not included on the first Debian download cd/iso. I use Nvidia and Atheros wireless, but the packages module-assistant, build essential, kernel headers, wireless-tools etc, are needed for most other graphic, network driver and firmware installations. They are free, do not take up space, but without them (on a wireless only computer) you hit a vicious circle; Needing internet to be able to get internet. I have backups (via aptoncd) for all of the aforementioned tools and dependencies for Etch, Lenny and Sid. However, I ythink that their inclusion is far more important than, say... renaming Firefox or including Mono in the gnome desktop. Maybe somebody could explain why they aren't included from the get-go. Thanks Richs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers
Hi, basically I am requesting module-assistant, build-essential and the kernel headers for the default kernel on the first iso. These are basic tools that are necessary to be able to install non-free, proprietary packages such as madwifi, nvidia-drivers etc. My main point is the wireless issue (Atheros; Madwifi ath_pci module not ath5k), but there are many people who use USB modems and other hardware who need to compile drivers and modules to get an internet connection. Most will have the firmware and drivers available, but the aforementioned packages are essential to be able to compile/build/install. As for Mono, I was referring to the latest Gnome release on Lenny and Sid, not Etch. I have my own personal gripes about the renaming of Firefox etc, but that's another issue. I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free and proprietary apps/drivers/codecs, I would just like to see Debian offer a complete base on that first iso. At least offering the means to completely setup Debian form the get-go. Richs -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBEhcyNURBADXeYTKqnBw/SLabReVFBgIxwjo9IYvORx6uxETHDvuyo7JHT4B qpMVTPYpNGlAdFB516C7GKYAOrPNrBZEhoM+KBKAeJvQ8S3clQo9eQiyTtosx/P4 pz9FhoJ89duSPFTyts86uHH5mVp72gKoaJAz5gNRq2zhVNPUR4MyVKPqOwCgwHVW YkoWDyHo42CjXc6dMkqFyRkEAL1kgeck9EVTvu57Rk96qisWP8MEjrGy/DmG/7AT CeIN68kxgmX8+ybFLqvBnvXaSRUcbmwWq8eje1fHXou3lypvQPtf69uwmCmYbRlh aLBpQkBQ/JPfs6EP77KeGjfCSUA5ikNhL61V6MYBf1EDW/23ssG/8aCoRZVd6i+L nTUmBACqukKeuxIQoQzI5g2ojR4NtHKq3SF9vKqGl2Fbb2+PgzMuwzJwk2bxxWyK pAjSYOuJ2DDC8XCrZNxEM4E0BcUKZHh7/YYHJsTXuBfDy7Aoat92iE5OItgqxzPN og5BEuWL5FC28QWDuc9Nzt/rVlMpbwglXY7dPz1VuNqFS+V5MbQzUmljaCBTIChy aWNocy1wZ3Ata2V5KSA8cmljaHNAZHJlYW1saW51eGZvcnVtcy5vcmc+iGAEExEC ACAFAkhcyNUCGyMGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRBtUoXmB3YfgXHp AKCrEyUju1emRb4MTpgRGoKEZ14QvwCaAlKZ8IYiHkQlzwgvV70lY9uCTPG5Ag0E SFzJABAIAJc3YKTRRzfpI97SXkWec8mC03GJmJBVmUmX+3CWdl7eDYZ4Wz2uQOkL DH3uT+RlwSL8nCPUuIn/EK4SV/HhTf25jNgyruo9vRo/wLbqDQDU909p2iu2R23H japfPyyFQq3J8nhGkUKZCVrNHJNiu+lkIcrgf6O9J+Gr7/cO88XUN+xSsdu0QkN4 WbT5UCy//mVABY/IB1I6eSedzd1RG6CHvOAHmkO9iup7v8qG5OcMvth0aVkxh7sq JXUSDep4qMlLNxTvBx2mo+10s7ntT4628c+FNDsd0jkr22/t8hx4b6p8AujXzEEs 4hhzjR4n1aRHgrQmYOxg7sGu8KdJXB8AAwUH/0irqslSZdpepDKYO17oUEXI9lR4 0L4vHpenObc0nR9W7lQUomRWLHDAChoIivYWxl0BBf/Anhcc2/2hjFkyRoN4xg5t /xZ2POSRUlQUp80ZjYGrWd1Z79lXJBXG3lb2oqyNh+8PD7dwdutDeEeIqLSZlJj2 Et3cIULvbG/0ylvHVsKOoD7oUMIk1gzD+Wy7JasBZ2SpQhaE0436DiRuQZRIKF7l K5r5Tu3lfoeJE/UurHmg3o9E62H1CcDUW2mvkqrXY9B04kLJa5SnhVCUBkylEMHA Th1eDInPTwJho6NoDvKf691IyC0C+90QpjWL/5zbWoTkcsfm/l424Vf+fO6ISQQY EQIACQUCSFzJAAIbDAAKCRBtUoXmB3YfgdIZAJ0X13+I70zC5NWx6Z/ZhWSKjc9k 0gCdGiflwW7w+/TtSKALWM4SC/MSNv4= =N6oU -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-