LyX: just about the only word processor in debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I am just, out of my inherent curiosity, curious whether LyX still exists in the hamm distribution. This was the only available word processor that came with Debian. I know that it is technically a "pain in the ", and that anyone who can type > 50WPM can benefit greatly by learning the markup (so as to type LaTEX docs by hand), yet I believe it's important. My package database lists LyX in the "obsolete" category - IMO this is a shame. If it has disappeared from debian, I believe something *needs* to come up soon to replace it. Cya, -aaron /-\ |-> Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-| \_ Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <--/ Dimension Internet Solutions - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNYxGd/oZ48BBEZCJAQFJNQP/TzgFt1Cn7fHv0Ns36Qj4Dzvdh/pWdImQ TPKU9HnGSSMFsIJewL23tyTzKp3GVXNoJ/9BKJGqju+DVak3s9S9dZgyGeuXtxSs KIn4bHeX+cM0Pg58vrHt4qOSQGTNXA3F7+8U1fUp/ka8LXnE9mqP7E5cAmbK27O7 HCmXHFjoIXo= =Tpkr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Intenet To Package: Electric Eyes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Florian Hinzmann wrote: > -BEGIN PGP DECRYPTED MESSAGE- > > On 19-Jun-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Yes, I did check the WNPP this time! ;) Thanks for pointing out my error, > > everyone on debian-private. > > Maybe you missed the packets that are available already? > > This is what my bash has to say: [snip] > Florian Hinzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > NEW PGP-Key fingerprint: DD 61 74 34 04 FB 8A BD 43 54 83 38 0C 82 EF B1 OK. I am sure that I have thoroughly made a complete fool of myself to the entire Debian community by this time, so I shall move with something that is directly stated in the WNPP as needed. [enough of this crippling my own ass in front of everyone] I will shortly post an intent to package OmniORB. It is a more... lean, shall we say, CORBA ORB implementation than mico. Eventually (by word from the gnome mailing lists), gnome will be ported to OmniORB. Additionally, this is something that Debian Just Plain Needs (tm). Even though nothing at this point extensively depends on corba, it's an incredibly useful development tool and will lend credibility to the project. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNYxDY/oZ48BBEZCJAQHDcQQAjVktJM/9LUEwQrXAPVzMop0tbvlJVsYS as5UTGnoc4IWXYNf/+aq3F3+WZqnxsoHuVHPokURYRCuBVdkzVyuL7TSMKjlDb4B MrIHNw+/7PA2bkBkLBfhKb7FxCVaeQK2Y5wJ208lZx283jK+uabiq8XRqYRaiium 1HT3LaXmGbE= =JMjB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New gnome packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 01:52:29PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > > Am I correct that we currently do not have a complete desktop with gnome? > > Since there is no wm yet, it's pretty difficult to judge it. > > icewm is already gnome compliant, and has the advantage of being quite > small. Enlightenment will also be gnome compliant, though larger. I > believe WindowMaker is also already gnome compliant, though I'm less sure > about that. > Actually, I just recently spoke with Mandrake, who said that Raster (an employee of RedHat Advanced Development Labs) has used his influence (that guy knows so much about WM internals that it scares me) to use Enlightenment .14 to _define_ gnome-compliance in a window manager. He is currently writing up articles on that very subject, and can be seen in the "Rumor Mill" at RHAD, accessible via http://www.labs.redhat.com - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNYxCSvoZ48BBEZCJAQEelgP/R4h4uDl/zJqL7fU/LKqOfdvCEQDIfs6b 5D93fkKe2ZFYSR+b4ghBeuWB+MFQxDRxU6cVxlDkGT0G7TYandFulfcbPn1lu5sr yq4XhsT3jjyAYeqH1E6dippnBbDW5jIfD1GA+Whic2C1AbTsWGs7uqsLEsahbeZk MRNIutaZSzk= =CnfS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intenet To Package: Electric Eyes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Yes, I did check the WNPP this time! ;) Thanks for pointing out my error, everyone on debian-private. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNYoQJfoZ48BBEZCJAQG3dwQArDAbBGoC0/fA5Hd6XAkUSM84I23rsk3T wZuyMHqkA9c8T/165jKce6osJ68/hObg6FPCtdEyacJnjPIJRVHIcrEbD4/KAoar GfqZC69Yy7WrlDdlDMrR4zMVDkzIUl7hkchn3fgF9Prsosq0JgB3oVXbpxx4O829 yjpyLEqfyXk= =XBKM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hamm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 6 May 1998, James R. Van Zandt wrote: > > >> I maintain a hamm mirror at work. According to my records, the > >> traffic to keep hamm up to date amounts to about 20 MB/day. > > >I'm a bit of a newbie with respect to Debian, and I've recently susbcribed > >to some mailing lists. I'm still reading a lot of FAQ material, but since > >I saw this thread I couldn't resist to ask: what's the recommended way > >(program) to keep an updated unstable distribution for a home user? > > I don't know of any easy way. > There is an easy way. I do it at home. My personal traffic amounts to about 40 megs a week. (that's a one night update) This can be accomplished easily with apt. If you want it done automatically, here is how you do it: 1) get apt. project/experimental on ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian 2) set up apt's resources. I have included a file sent to me by culus (apt maintainer) that lists all available http resources. 3) create a cron job to get online and run "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -m" (nightly or weekly -- your choice). 4) every time cron runs apt will automatically get every file you need and fix everything in place, without needing any input from you. Personally, I just use the easy method: su root and do it myself. setting up apt's resources: I have attatched the master source list from a while back -- it should still be good enough. however, remember to remove the stable entry -- apt will not update stable correctly. Remeber that having more than two actual servers listed in the sources list... is overkill. And btw -- this should have been on debian-user. I'm forwarding it there now. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVIABfoZ48BBEZCJAQGb1gP+LV2w6GufrYR5QCTML1+IrmRR0mJYi/YD zhUbyi/uoIACqG8MC2Yz7YX+BpaRRzP/s7zmYDsZhjOA+rgu3tsXER+kXZcWBw1T WZSBNfzlEieero35XXtk6CTMAnw7IxXQsXo9WlD+3PoFuuTFI4CHopGK/uIdjENd qlwqv94//w8= =K0b6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- # Tim Sailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # HTTP 1.0 - roxen deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian frozen main contrib non-free # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/binary-i386/ deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/binary-i386/ # deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian frozen main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian-non-US stable/binary-i386/ deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian-non-US unstable/binary-i386/ # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deb http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/debian frozen main contrib non-free # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deb http://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/debian frozen main contrib non-free # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deb http://ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.infomagic.com/pub/mirrors/linux/debian frozen main contrib non-free # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deb http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/debian frozen main contrib non-free # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deb http://web.rge.com/pub/systems/linux/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://web.rge.com/pub/systems/linux/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://web.rge.com/pub/systems/linux/debian froz
Intent to package: xfnt-URW gimp-extra-plugins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- The URW fonts are a set that the gimp home page points to as "good fonts to use in the gimp." Additionally, in the plugin registry, there are a number of good plugins that are not included in the gimp distribution. I would like to begin working on packaging these. However, I cannot officially upload a maintainer release until I am accepted as a maintainer :). - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNVH89foZ48BBEZCJAQG3swP/TNBx14rhsO+1eegxfot6jX5qoA9Z2RRW uShOR/ipfjALX9SC49pH6jDLP7toFP19VWfZeDNz1ezDAD4Ea3lV0jguEGsJorn5 Q5VVQ25FxHn6RUL/qcglx/qstOEz3AYokYW92zd3RbiNGqdXgqXK3mgGNTgX9QRO 2il4CELWTYI= =HmES -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Preliminary intent to package - enlightenment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 3 May 1998, Jules Bean wrote: > --On Sun, May 3, 1998 5:26 pm +0100 "Jules Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi there... > > > > Anyone out there already grabbed the enlightenment package, or have a > reason > > why it shouldn't be in slink? If not, I hereby announce intent to package > > enlightenment for slink/main. > > Oops. > > I withdraw this request. > > Enlightenment is already being packaged - by [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll > register as a developer, and go pick up a WNPP package.. > > Jules There are several problems with the packaging of enlightenment. It's menuing system is *not* easy to integrate with debian menu. This is simply because of the flexible and highly detailed syntax it uses. It is not modular in any way. If enlightenment .14 is released before slink freezes, it will be easier to integrate. .14 will have theme "templates" -- don't ask what this means as it's fairly complicated and would only make sense to somebody who has helped with the development of an enlightenment theme and somewhat knows raster and mandrake. .14 will also be a gnome compliant WM (and raster is working around the clock on it to port it to GTK and CORBA... He's being paid by redhat advanced development labs for work on imlib, enlightenment, and gtk enhancement). This means that all gnome apps will work with their advanced features from the enlightenment wm... A lot is coming to pass. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-----\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUyUGvoZ48BBEZCJAQHiSQP/drIZ1v+QKYpCu35THUKbTORWWfqS6nvs 2zdw/OoznArZV2bTXY8+cfNmJujZqwbFjX+JNK1tjJ3SfL+eeoGHUvqkIjb741Wx 0b8VaXe9scEUX0OmGKjY1Gs9vtQJn5e0VaEPV2QSxU6SRWzowc4xR8Um2T4DFkym ItZgUckZKvI= =8r6w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vgetty: USR or ZyXEL?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 2 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry about this, this should have gone to debian-user - - Aaron > -BEGIN PGP DECRYPTED MESSAGE- > > I have been looking into the possibility of setting up my system > as a voicemail box with mgetty+sendfax/vgetty. I have read many documents > on the subject, and have come across many warnings that the voice code is > very beta and only thoroughly works on a ZyXEL voice modem. > Looking up one of these modems (which was a fairly daunting task > -- you try) revealed that they go for around $350 US. Reading the PDF for > the product ensured me that although it's only a 28.8 modem, it is well > worth the price. However, I would LOVE to use a USR on it, as the price > for a 56k USR voice is somehwere in the range of $120 US. > Are there any major problems vgetty has with US Robotics modems? > Also, is vgetty a practical solution for a voicemail system? What I mean > is, how are events programmed in? Does a user need take raw modem data and > decide what to do with it entirely by his own processing, or is some low > level encapsulation provided (i.e. triggers by touchtone key presses on a > handset)? If it is more trouble than it is worth, I may simply end up > buying a voice system. > > Thanks in advance for any info. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUr0lvoZ48BBEZCJAQE2EgP8Dtk3ljIL6YtxqSO+pZDeRlhcwNNRRm9f ulCfjytt5LI4wauUlCPRmy58IIRTvVw4VoGJA9NzvPAxnY4kcIiBBYFsgJ1CvDV/ ISQOvdpk4NXUDF5GSO2DBEXuIS3SLfFw3qbTp2Pu1sNbB6OG72Q3dcAHYp4QaT8f I8j1Gau85Pw= =9G2R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vgetty: USR or ZyXEL?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I have been looking into the possibility of setting up my system as a voicemail box with mgetty+sendfax/vgetty. I have read many documents on the subject, and have come across many warnings that the voice code is very beta and only thoroughly works on a ZyXEL voice modem. Looking up one of these modems (which was a fairly daunting task - -- you try) revealed that they go for around $350 US. Reading the PDF for the product ensured me that although it's only a 28.8 modem, it is well worth the price. However, I would LOVE to use a USR on it, as the price for a 56k USR voice is somehwere in the range of $120 US. Are there any major problems vgetty has with US Robotics modems? Also, is vgetty a practical solution for a voicemail system? What I mean is, how are events programmed in? Does a user need take raw modem data and decide what to do with it entirely by his own processing, or is some low level encapsulation provided (i.e. triggers by touchtone key presses on a handset)? If it is more trouble than it is worth, I may simply end up buying a voice system. Thanks in advance for any info. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUrw3voZ48BBEZCJAQEoxQQAhyNG5LMYhiaSb+Ckpl7x9qjG2bCfV+aw vclLg33HaeAqL9sbZFRoMTmIf2AY+jB3t2MrAYUwASaeLFtFixOL+95JZrK+99Ym h4Br6FPbl5phNP+fuuIQrtV/eCW31l41SWubJO/WaW6+4yLiiEk8w2JrpRBj7f+A s3zZeVrd2T4= =Qdc/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot Disks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, David Welton wrote: > Ok, I have had enough.. I would like to do something! > > After hearing for the nth time that someone's computer wont work with > debian but will with redhat and slackware, I would like to try my hand > at making some boot disks. I read the BootDisk HOWTO in the past, and > I think I get the basic idea, but what I'd really like to know is > exactly how people have been doing this for the Debian boot disks - > ie, what sort of device, size, etc.. Basically whatever specs are > available about our disks. In my experience, debian's bootdisk problems are inherent to the entire "disk" method of installation. The way it is constructed (in hamm), it needs 9 brand-new disks, with no blemish. If even one disk has a few bad blocks on it (which rawrite doesn't tell you, and the inexperienced user won't notice until too late) it's too late to do anything. Additionally, the boot+root (single-disk) causes some problems. If one kernel refuses to boot on your computer, you are *required* to construct your own disks from a kernel and debian's rootdisk. This takes someone quite far along the larning curve, and should be avoided at a distribution's install level. I propose this: one disk with two or three kernels on it (one kernel completely bare, the other with support for some strange hardware such as proprietary mice, cdrom's, etc) and a modified ldlinux.sys that tells what to do for different kinds of machines... One rootdisk. This will increase the amount of room available for the base rootdisk, making the rescue floppy much more user-friendly (perhaps bash and joe could fit on it -- two VERY important tools for a rescue floppy). Anyway, just a few ideas - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUTAUvoZ48BBEZCJAQG6XwP/X2bJ+Lbu0GF3uVjxiOkEtxRTWQfm/qoy vK10vms+0zXVtKM91o7rdkmYq/U87L0kexIesNereOZFYmRWLdbPoUbV0MM3U/b9 gDMkSHyg5qsLQFWx7UZiDcDYuFMuetfjJ3An4uONRW1s9p+zi7iHUepJd6BwjTdd 9i8hUPuV+OA= =Mqn7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed Constitution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote: I must apologize, I was the one that fueled this technical jargon battle. I personally don't care. My bad ;) "Like father like son" - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUS38/oZ48BBEZCJAQGTWQP/auu7zRry/m+Hn8kS9LOiCBH8qoOqH7J0 gQ1aWWb+BHOp24GS+8Cg61vZHjD5cPl5mgme8eOcMBtXNgaln9syfFhniLTo8923 c2XqqH/UveZfSgFNe4xT0INpWt7wTaU4n+7aruEE5bimVD7sMUuDe/4Opc1qnxTm ajknhSe4t4Q= =9jAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed Constitution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Mark Baker wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 06:05:51PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > > include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using > > plural pronouns (they, their) to refer to singular entities (Leader, > > Secretary, etc.) should be changed to use singular masculine pronouns > > (him, his). > > "They" is not only a singular, it is also widely accepted as a singular > pronoun, and has been used as such by not only ordinary people but also > great writers for hundreds of years. > I am sorry to burst that bubble, but do you care to centest that argument with my english teacher? "they" is a plural non-gender pronoun. When writing in formal english, it is required thatspecific formal pronouns be used. E.G. "The President will be (blablabla). He will also... (blablabla)". One thing that IS accepted is the use of masculine pronouns to represent both genders. However, some view this as sex discrimination. Hence, everybody is in a very awkward position. Write gramatically incorrect documents, discriminatory documents; even better, lace your documents with useless replacement phrases. An example of the last, replacing the second sentence in my previous display, would go as such: "The person who holds this position will also ... (blablabla)". Following this method insures that everybody will be happy, but puts extreme pressure on the writer not do provoke anybody carelessly. Who will take something seriously if its main constitution is riddled with grammatical errors? Who of the same will take it seriously if it is discriminatory? Who, then, will read it if it is twice as long as it needs to be? I say everybody is too paranoid. Who cares what it looks like? Do it effectively and use the most common method, whoever's toes it steps on. Don't be afraid to put "he" because somebody will surely slander you for your nievety. Enough of my ramblings ;) - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUSmSfoZ48BBEZCJAQEwVAP/XabxTwkAJ0FDzKHe89S0ImxrCevkE09a b9bYNFkC6KcCdyyj6spfv4ADdKAQEUzlYGbUXabLwyhHoWIXR4/FwBOBpV6qXfsB d0kAw/RwzksqVq3Zn2zeRCxwteV9J9KAS53/MoWPfB6EbtLJ6ia9QkFfS2Nqk90l 3YcXAiLnAwc= =9Aoa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: mlddc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > If memory servers, someone took the package from John but I can't recall who > it was. > [snip] thanks for jumping to my rescue guys, I just about had a package built ;). Oh well. I'll have to go find something else to do... It's pretty hard, every time I think of something it's already there ;). Lemme go see if debian has "lightbar" on its list If not that will be my first try... ( For those of you who don't know, it makes WWIV style login screens possible ... ) - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUGaiPoZ48BBEZCJAQH5rQP/Ve/w3IKCVqDjUDU4s4TbbOnW2Q7nHeu3 JZnC5iN9zK82s1NJGfOIBYz8Jbw+dTS575wl8LU15d3UVSMY8RTfWpKm/wmtfZCt gKDbFqMHI5W2FDJFaaAzEjQceHb9lArKe5Z8C3uwyFjJ+3SQI+eeNGzPvqa9eQFq Ag/ls9dRILA= =d+B1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: mlddc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Anthony Fok wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 04:03:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It is already packaged by John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in March. :-) > [snip] > > Nice idea. :-) The current mlddc package does nothing like this, i.e., the > user has to add mlddc to ip-up (and perhaps ip-down? Nah, too late) > manually. Maybe you could discuss with John to see if you could improve the > package? :-) > > Welcome to Debian! :-) > I also found one thing -- mlddc is insecure. That's right, it's subject to buffer overflow; it uses gets in its source. If john used the provided binary for the .deb, this is a security hazard. I am currently experimenting with the use of a perl module designed for interface to the monolith NIC -- it uses libwww-perl and therefore could be extended to use some of monolith's other services -- such as password changes and such. Otherwise I could simply hack the mlddc source code and eliminate the security breach, as the perl client is somewhat slower. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUGZi/oZ48BBEZCJAQEwlAP9ESM7t+rS8qVa49pZtMMiXrQGRFUCsigt iS/AgPQxFspskZRESq4i5uxThBUm8WcN2l1AzRGug2fXYjUUdCSKMtJ2xCRyGNda YakNGYA2bHNm8Fo/OHpGsVa++KJJwnt5H7n9lHpheajAZp98zQo2XpBzwVwWTqcM rm51wGKSgeo= =PLSI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package: mlddc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Monolith Internet Services offers a public dynamic dns service -- I think it would be nice to offer a working, tried framework for auto-initialization of such a doodad. Anyway, this will be my first package. I will have it ready in two days, but that says nothing of whether I will have been accepted yet... (My new maintainer app has been building up dust for about 7 days now... Been trying to conjure joey or igor to quickly give me accounts!) Monolith has links to MLDDC and other user frontends. As MLDDC is written in C, while others are scripted, I chose MLDDC for speed. There is only one problem that I have not found an answer to -- MLDDC must revoke its DNS entries (via the NIC) BEFORE pppd dies. This cannot be accomplished by placing a script in /etc/ip-up.d -- this requires moditying /usr/bin/poff to revoke the records before pppd is killed. If I am not to be allowed to do that, I call for the addition of a "run-parts /etc/ppp/before-ppp-start.d" into /usr/bin/pon and "run-parts /etc/ppp/before-ppp-shutdown.d" before the respective operations that are performed in the scripts. That is, if run-parts runs its scripts in the foreground. Otherwise it would be pointless as the scripts would be running AS pppd dies --- pppd must die after run-parts has successfully completed all of its tasks. I will check on this, and for now write the config script to modify poff. - --- Aaron Van Couwenberghe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |---> Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org ftp://ftp.debian.org <-\ |-> Proud competitor in the race for World Domination <---| Illusion web designs - http://www.sonic.net/~vanco - To be launched by June PGP KeyID: 41119089 UserID: Aaron Van Couwenberghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3a mQCNAzU9DnIAAAEEAMPBOCQh5zzgJCh7hz7M20bL+gztIn1+ldPNq8AcN7s16XHa sgWQoK/Yz/15HnClqDATQhqItG4+4SZDW/VywLgDUxfa+WXPqOFGdUv8AODAnWiz doOI58TajZTV4gyvp2fCH2sjvOOpfZ1AFn1m3Z6kT3c0otbNSfoZ48BBEZCJAAUR tChBYXJvbiBWYW4gQ291d2VuYmVyZ2hlIDx2YW5jb0Bzb25pYy5uZXQ+iQCVAwUQ NT0OcvoZ48BBEZCJAQENBQP9G/3B3HHQOYaea6ep1Z+0ZR/BtK3o2bPPdhVFEksT vwlvDYM01RouZoWZ91ixJVTp5r+ovq/4eFnrVk1IxjK6lEeXtKixrWKuyv3xVBa5 1snIrslc4t6zahBJx6i9OESgK69BDi0MMA8Y5jzz6I38vCZS1cFjwGZvzyINJEaF +Fg= =56FS - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNUEaZ/oZ48BBEZCJAQEOnAQAjx+dvrqnYHj82gg6iIs7sXdPiZo79gwD adFpItmZk6n6wyvwxNp6jk3GU3dRBvmyEvNZaNuSPgcUQK3m/hBGLcnEFTYlOakV teXrAAwFPVGIxN4GmposcgOgiMu5jd18YejCZCZdKp20uSrr/qBbspGvhscEqn2w 9AL9y+QhD8U= =4HJk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
